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Kraken @ Leafs - Oct. 18th, 7:00pm - SN

OldTimeHockey said:
And surely this will be the last we see of Maccelli right? I'd take Jarnkrok any day of the week over the perimeter player Maccelli is. If you want more fire, put players in the line up with more fire. More drive. And play them. Move them up the line up to drive play. If you want to create energy, you have to remove playing time from your energy drainers and put in your spark plugs. That's Robertson, Cowan, Domi(can't believe I said that), Lorentz, Roy, Tavares, Jarnkrok. Right now, for me, every other forward is sucking the energy out of the team. Lack of care. Lack of second effort. Just Lacking. Including Matthews, Knies and Nylander.

Maybe Marner really was the driving force on this team and they let the wrong superstar leave. The Leafs just got out hustled by Shane Wright, Chandler Stevenson, and Jaden Schwartz. That's unacceptable.
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Nice post. At the very least, Marner always gave an effort on both sides of the puck.
 
So which superstar should have left? They all have a history of coming up small when it really matters. I think Marner appeared to care more than Matthews or Nylander, but he didn't seem to be able to handle the pressure of Toronto. Not sure how much of that was due to him being from the area, how much was family-induced, or whatever. But I do think he had to leave for his own sake.

Matthews doesn't seem to have much of a pulse and now he's not really an elite goal scorer anymore either. Nylander - I don't know what to make of him. He seems to find a lot more energy for scoring opportunities than for back checking.

It's just unfortunate that the Leafs "core 4" for all these years has been composed of a players who don't have that extra gear, that willingness to lay it all on the line, go through the wall (or whatever cliche you want). You can't change that DNA by bringing in 8-12 minute role players.
 
Chris said:
So which superstar should have left? They all have a history of coming up small when it really matters. I think Marner appeared to care more than Matthews or Nylander, but he didn't seem to be able to handle the pressure of Toronto. Not sure how much of that was due to him being from the area, how much was family-induced, or whatever. But I do think he had to leave for his own sake.

Matthews doesn't seem to have much of a pulse and now he's not really an elite goal scorer anymore either. Nylander - I don't know what to make of him. He seems to find a lot more energy for scoring opportunities than for back checking.

It's just unfortunate that the Leafs "core 4" for all these years has been composed of a players who don't have that extra gear, that willingness to lay it all on the line, go through the wall (or whatever cliche you want). You can't change that DNA by bringing in 8-12 minute role players.
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AM34? The guy who is on pace for 55 goals? Not elite at goal scoring?

WN88? Third in the league in points? BUM.

And everyone wonders why Marner ran almost as far as you can go from Toronto.
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
AM34? The guy who is on pace for 55 goals? Not elite at goal scoring?

WN88? Third in the league in points? BUM.

And everyone wonders why Marner ran almost as far as you can go from Toronto.
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Lots of yummy cookies. How many playoff series wins in 9 years?

Matthews has 2 empty netters and 2 tap ins. Let me know when he starts beating goalies with his shot like he used to!
 
OldTimeHockey said:
And surely this will be the last we see of Maccelli right? I'd take Jarnkrok any day of the week over the perimeter player Maccelli is. If you want more fire, put players in the line up with more fire. More drive. And play them. Move them up the line up to drive play. If you want to create energy, you have to remove playing time from your energy drainers and put in your spark plugs. That's Robertson, Cowan, Domi(can't believe I said that), Lorentz, Roy, Tavares, Jarnkrok. Right now, for me, every other forward is sucking the energy out of the team. Lack of care. Lack of second effort. Just Lacking. Including Matthews, Knies and Nylander.

Maybe Marner really was the driving force on this team and they let the wrong superstar leave. The Leafs just got out hustled by Shane Wright, Chandler Stevenson, and Jaden Schwartz. That's unacceptable.
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The Leafs have had decent records with Marner and Matthews both out of the lineup.
 
Chris said:
Lots of yummy cookies. How many playoff series wins in 9 years?

Matthews has 2 empty netters and 2 tap ins. Let me know when he starts beating goalies with his shot like he used to!
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Season is still very young.
Has Matthews looked like the top 5 NHLer he was? Not to me.
Time will tell.
 
I didn’t see any of the game last night but I just saw the net crashing clip and Carlo should be embarrassed.
 
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