2022 Blue Jays

[Kin]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

 

[Bender]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Really hoping we can keep Ray. Jays weren't far off from being a good team but losing Semien and Ray feels like that would be pretty tough...

 

[Kin]

Really hoping we can keep Ray. Jays weren't far off from being a good team but losing Semien and Ray feels like that would be pretty tough...

Maybe. But adding Gausman and the picks for Semien/Ray would not be a terrible outcome either.

 

[Deebo]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Really hoping we can keep Ray. Jays weren't far off from being a good team but losing Semien and Ray feels like that would be pretty tough...

Don't worry they still are a good team. Gausman is comparable to Ray and they will add another infield bat and probably more pitching.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1465146120116609027

 

[Kin]

Wow, Scherzer to the Mets for 3 years/130 million.

 

[Bender]

Jays have signed a bunch of dudes... What do we think?

https://www.thescore.com/s/19974617

 

[bustaheims]

Wow, Scherzer to the Mets for 3 years/130 million.

Front end of the Mets rotation is going to be something.

 

[bustaheims]

Jays have signed a bunch of dudes... What do we think?

https://www.thescore.com/s/19974617

Phelps could be a useful piece in the bullpen if he?s healthy. The rest? A hearty meh.

 

[Highlander]

To bad about Semien, I guess Ray is gone as well.  Time for one of our prospects to step up not named Manoah.

 

[Bender]

And it's official. Ray is gone. Ugh.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1465414756844638216?s=20

 

[Bender]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

 

[Guilt Trip]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

Both are similar but I think the Jays did great signing Gausman and he wanted to come here....doesn't sound like ray did ad that's why the Jays moved on.

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/analysis/blue-jays-free-agency-ace-gausman-ray

 

[Bender]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

Both are similar but I think the Jays did great signing Gausman and he wanted to come here....doesn't sound like ray did ad that's why the Jays moved on.

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/analysis/blue-jays-free-agency-ace-gausman-ray

Yeah, I mean if they went for similar $ I don't see why we wouldn't sign Ray unless he specifically didn't want to resign.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

Both are similar but I think the Jays did great signing Gausman and he wanted to come here....doesn't sound like ray did ad that's why the Jays moved on.

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/analysis/blue-jays-free-agency-ace-gausman-ray

Yeah, I mean if they went for similar $ I don't see why we wouldn't sign Ray unless he specifically didn't want to resign.

Just reading that article/opinion, I would say the Jays got the better pitcher.

 

[Joe S.]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

Very - right down to last season being potentially fluke seasons. But at least Gausman spent years in the AL east. Knows what he?s getting into. And apparently the Jays went hard after him last years but he had reservations with the Jays having no home field.

 

[Joe S.]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

Both are similar but I think the Jays did great signing Gausman and he wanted to come here....doesn't sound like ray did ad that's why the Jays moved on.

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/analysis/blue-jays-free-agency-ace-gausman-ray

Yeah, I mean if they went for similar $ I don't see why we wouldn't sign Ray unless he specifically didn't want to resign.

You can also look at it as the Jays got a very similar player and a draft pick. So in a way they?re kind of ahead? Either way I see Ray and Gausman as a wash. Neither are the ace of this staff. That?s Berrios.

 

[bustaheims]

Even without Ray, the Jays have the makings of a pretty solid rotation. Ryu, Berrios, Gausman, Manoah, and Stripling/Pearson/another addition is a pretty good group. Being able to retain Ray would have been great, but replacing him with Gausman isn?t much of a downgrade in terms of reasonable expected performance.

 

[Guilt Trip]

According to Steve Phillips, the Jays offered 5 x 110mill. Ray's camp was playing it that they were getting more from someone else, so they were bluffing. They were also going to wait until Dec 1 to sign and were slow playing it. Jays didn't want to wait and moved on to plan B before Gausman signed somewhere else.
Smart move to get 1 of them. Gasman isn't much of a drop, if at all.

 

[Kin]

Wow. Not sure if this closes the door on Ray but that's a solid addition to the rotation at a pretty reasonable price.

Ray just went for $115M/5yrs. Is Gausman comparable?

I think so. Especially when you factor in the draft pick. In a perfect world would I have taken Ray over Gausman at these respective deals? Maybe. But there certainly isn't a huge difference and I understand why someone might lean the other way in thinking Gausman has a lot of room for improvement under Pete Walker whereas we already saw what Walker could do for Ray.