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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2018, 01:43:42 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?
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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2018, 01:50:53 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2018, 02:34:20 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2018, 02:39:28 PM »
Can he skate backwards even a little bit and does he shoot right?

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2018, 02:44:15 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?

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UGH.  As much as I love John Tavares, he's probably in the 10-20 range in the league.  And in the NBA, the superstars drive your success more than they do in the NHL (see:  McDavid)

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2018, 02:46:58 PM »
Masai Ujiri just pulled an Alex Anthopoulos.

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2018, 02:47:57 PM »
Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2018, 03:32:53 PM »
UGH.  As much as I love John Tavares, he's probably in the 10-20 range in the league.  And in the NBA, the superstars drive your success more than they do in the NHL (see:  McDavid)

Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

So not to belabor this point, but I am totally going to labor this point.  It was a bit tongue in cheek. 

Kawhi Leonard has been described as a superstar.  One of the top 5 players in the league when he is at his best.  The pundits have said that they gave up a real good player to get him. 

I put John Tavares in the superstar category and above the real good player category.  Is he top 5 in the League?  At his best, possibly.  2015 was a monster year for Tavares.  He finished third in Hart trophy voting, and he was a 1st team all star.  He also finished second in the scoring race.  So he's three years removed from that, but he has gotten to that level before, and I don't think he has dropped off that much.     


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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2018, 03:37:27 PM »
Yeah certainly not worth arguing over but I put Tavares top 20 players in League and Matthews top 10. That would correspond with position I would put two traded players.
UGH.  As much as I love John Tavares, he's probably in the 10-20 range in the league.  And in the NBA, the superstars drive your success more than they do in the NHL (see:  McDavid)

Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

So not to belabor this point, but I am totally going to labor this point.  It was a bit tongue in cheek. 

Kawhi Leonard has been described as a superstar.  One of the top 5 players in the league when he is at his best.  The pundits have said that they gave up a real good player to get him. 

I put John Tavares in the superstar category and above the real good player category.  Is he top 5 in the League?  At his best, possibly.  2015 was a monster year for Tavares.  He finished third in Hart trophy voting, and he was a 1st team all star.  He also finished third in the scoring race.  So he's three years removed from that, but he has gotten to that level before, and I don't think he has dropped off that much.     

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2018, 03:38:22 PM »
UGH.  As much as I love John Tavares, he's probably in the 10-20 range in the league.  And in the NBA, the superstars drive your success more than they do in the NHL (see:  McDavid)

Tavares is who they traded, Matthews is closer comparison to who they got back.

So not to belabor this point, but I am totally going to labor this point.  It was a bit tongue in cheek. 

Kawhi Leonard has been described as a superstar.  One of the top 5 players in the league when he is at his best.  The pundits have said that they gave up a real good player to get him. 

I put John Tavares in the superstar category and above the real good player category.  Is he top 5 in the League?  At his best, possibly.  2015 was a monster year for Tavares.  He finished third in Hart trophy voting, and he was a 1st team all star.  He also finished third in the scoring race.  So he's three years removed from that, but he has gotten to that level before, and I don't think he has dropped off that much.     
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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2018, 03:52:10 PM »
How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2018, 03:57:52 PM »


Kuh - Why


How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2018, 04:41:55 PM »


Kuh - Why


How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

That's ridiculous.  I thought it was Cow-eee, and I think I should be right.

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2018, 04:43:36 PM »
Feel free to go your own way.


Kuh - Why


How do you pronounce this Leonard's first name?

That's ridiculous.  I thought it was Cow-eee, and I think I should be right.

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Re: Raptors close to acquiring Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2018, 05:49:11 PM »
I don't know anything about Basketball. How good is Kawhi really? I've read he's like top 3-5 in league good. Any comparable hockey player or old school bball player?
Me neither. Does this allow the Raptors to lose to Golden State in 5 games or will it still be a sweep?