hockeyfan1
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Jays sign Japanese pitcher Shun Yamaguchi:
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Blue Jays Hot Stove Thread
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Kin
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/tanner-roarks-steadiness-opens-possibilities-blue-jays/
According to Davidi the Jays are still in on Ryu but may choose to wait a year to look at adding expensive pitching. They also talk about the possibility of trading for David Price.
According to Davidi the Jays are still in on Ryu but may choose to wait a year to look at adding expensive pitching. They also talk about the possibility of trading for David Price.
itsgametime
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L K said:
It's what happens when you run the team into the ground and now they can't get players to come here. There was no reason to trade Stroman - he could have anchored this rotation for the next few seasons.
Highlander
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Way to much money, doesn't baseball have a cap and if not, why not??
Champ Kind
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L K said:
Hoping Shaw is more of a utility infield type. He's played more third than first, and has also played second in his career. It's a dumpster dive for sure, but the guy drove in 100+ two years ago. It could be a good find if it works out.
My biggest concern is that this is in fact the first base platoon with Telez and that they're not going to sign EE. If that's the case, I'm pissed. As a utility infielder, I'm good with this move.
itsgametime
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Shaw is a a weird case, projections willbe near impossible. One thing is sure, he must hit or its yet another shitty signing.
dappleganger
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Nik Bethune said:
I?m not a big fan of the signing either but I like it because it will shut up the people who say that this front office won?t or can?t sign a significant free agent
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itsgametime
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I like it but have to ask did they change course? I mean what happened to the slow and patient re-build they keep preaching. Honestly, as the 3rd largest city in NA we should be trying to win the WS every single season.
Kin
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The Empire said:
The teams that have actually won things in recent years are teams that have done so with players they develop themselves. "Trying to win" by spending like drunken sailors every winter might make fans feel better but there's no real case that it actually involves any actual championships.
hockeyfan1
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Ryu is a fastball master and is in command of his pitches.
?Control? means where the pitch (ball) is supposed to go in the zone but ?Command? means where you want your pitch (ball) to be. Two different things yet similar.
Name Team Zero-K FB% swSTR Command+
Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers 48.4% 11.5% 112
Marco Gonzales Mariners 34.5% 8.4% 111
Kyle Gibson Twins 52.1% 13.5% 110
Noah Syndergaard Mets 58.9% 11.7% 107
Tanner Roark Reds 53.1% 8.8% 106
Merrill Kelly D-backs 49.6% 8.9% 106
Cole Hamels Cubs 54.9% 11.1% 104
Ivan Nova White Sox 54.3% 8.5% 102
Rick Porcello Red Sox 58.1% 7.6% 102
Jake Odorizzi Twins 58.8% 12.7% 101
Mike Fiers Athletics 50.7% 7.2% 99
Trevor Cahill Angels 40.2% 9.4% 98
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?Control? means where the pitch (ball) is supposed to go in the zone but ?Command? means where you want your pitch (ball) to be. Two different things yet similar.
Name Team Zero-K FB% swSTR Command+
Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers 48.4% 11.5% 112
Marco Gonzales Mariners 34.5% 8.4% 111
Kyle Gibson Twins 52.1% 13.5% 110
Noah Syndergaard Mets 58.9% 11.7% 107
Tanner Roark Reds 53.1% 8.8% 106
Merrill Kelly D-backs 49.6% 8.9% 106
Cole Hamels Cubs 54.9% 11.1% 104
Ivan Nova White Sox 54.3% 8.5% 102
Rick Porcello Red Sox 58.1% 7.6% 102
Jake Odorizzi Twins 58.8% 12.7% 101
Mike Fiers Athletics 50.7% 7.2% 99
Trevor Cahill Angels 40.2% 9.4% 98
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bustaheims
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A healthy Ryu would be a true #1 starter, which would be huge - and, at a relative bargain compared to what other top flight pitchers have signed for. Obviously, health and age are a concern, but, he's not a power pitcher, so, as long as he can stay healthy, I'm not super worried about the aging curve.
itsgametime
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Nik Bethune said:
I disagree with this. The successful teams need to be active on 4 fronts:
First Year Player Draft
International signings
Trades
Free Agent signings
Atkins and company have mentioned the Astros as a team they would like to model themselves on and as one that was built through the draft. While they have done well drafting, by being active in free agency and trades is what got them to where they are now.
Drafted
Altuve
Springer
Correa
Bregman
International amateur signings
Alvarez
Gurriel
Mostly of the other impact players were obtained via trade or FA signings.
Verlander
Cole
Greinke
Osuna
Kin
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All of the guys you list as impact guys they got via trade and free agency(and none were free agents, they were all traded for) were guys they got after they had rebuilt themselves internally. Nobody is saying you never make trades or add free agents just that you first need to draft guys like Correa and Bregman which you can't do unless you rebuild and are bad for a while.
Because, aside from everything else, you need to build up your system so that you're able to put the pieces in a trade that land you guys like Cole/Verlander/Greinke.
Because, aside from everything else, you need to build up your system so that you're able to put the pieces in a trade that land you guys like Cole/Verlander/Greinke.