Avalanche @ Leafs - Nov. 10th, 7:00pm - TSN4
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L K
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Is this team capable of getting mad? They just seem listless.
Bill_Berg
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I might say blow it up, but they don't have their own picks. It's limbo time.
rjd
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Funny that the chant when you play that game is "how low can you go"
The 30 somethings value is very unlikely to rise. If they hang on to them for a couple of more years, they're likely to get a lot less asset return.
Their own picks are gone. Nobody is giving them back. They have to proceed with the best path forward from that point. The sooner they start the rebuilding process, the sooner they will be back with a better constructed team.
But they don't have to do anything immediately. It doesn't look good at the moment but they have a little time to see if they can straighten this group out.
They were never going to win a Cup. The only realistic exercise was to see if they could improve enough to make the playoffs. They're only 20 games in with a new coach and half the players changed. Chayka has little choice but to let this play out a little longer.
L K
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If this is truly a lost cause season, Matthews value won't really be lower in January/February than it is now. If Nylander is going to waive his NMC he's going to be pretty much as valuable in the offseason as he is now. There is no incentive to blow it up in November unless a team wildly overpays and that isn't likely to happen.
I don't dislike what Joshua has done since coming back but at the same time he's just more of the same in the middle of the lineup of guys who are making 3 million dollars to not score goals.
Tavares-Nylander has always been a problem defensively and I don't understand why the organization is fixated on keeping them paired together. Tavares is not a good defensive player. He tries hard but right now it looks pretty clear that whatever he was hurt with isn't healed and he rushed back because of the other lineup injuries. I don't know if Nylander is still fighting something or just in one of his sulk slumps where offence dries up and his bad defence really gets exposed because you don't get the risk-reward payoff.
Most of the goals last night weren't on Bob but you just need your goalie to make more than 22 saves. Every game is the same thing "oh it's not really his fault....the defence is bad...." Every single game we watch the opposing goalie make big saves at important times. It's just not good enough.
I don't think we have seen very many games where the Leafs looked like they gave up. They tried in this one. They tied it up...defense fell apart and Bob couldn't make a timely save. But at the same time, for a team that has lost 5 of 6 and 4 straight at home....where is the frustration. The team isn't getting PP calls. Get mad. Hit someone. Start a post-whistle scrum. They had the one against Montreal but even that was initiated by Xhekaj taking a late run at McCabe
I don't dislike what Joshua has done since coming back but at the same time he's just more of the same in the middle of the lineup of guys who are making 3 million dollars to not score goals.
Tavares-Nylander has always been a problem defensively and I don't understand why the organization is fixated on keeping them paired together. Tavares is not a good defensive player. He tries hard but right now it looks pretty clear that whatever he was hurt with isn't healed and he rushed back because of the other lineup injuries. I don't know if Nylander is still fighting something or just in one of his sulk slumps where offence dries up and his bad defence really gets exposed because you don't get the risk-reward payoff.
Most of the goals last night weren't on Bob but you just need your goalie to make more than 22 saves. Every game is the same thing "oh it's not really his fault....the defence is bad...." Every single game we watch the opposing goalie make big saves at important times. It's just not good enough.
I don't think we have seen very many games where the Leafs looked like they gave up. They tried in this one. They tied it up...defense fell apart and Bob couldn't make a timely save. But at the same time, for a team that has lost 5 of 6 and 4 straight at home....where is the frustration. The team isn't getting PP calls. Get mad. Hit someone. Start a post-whistle scrum. They had the one against Montreal but even that was initiated by Xhekaj taking a late run at McCabe
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