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2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

L K said:
I guess I have a hard time understanding how we are acquiring anyone in trade at this point who isn't a reclamation project.

2026 - 3rd, 5th, 6th
2027 - 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th
2028 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th
2029 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th
2030 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

Prospects: Cowan, Danford, Akhytyamov, Hildeby

We only have 1 2nd round pick for the next two seasons. Even with the concept of cap space accruement this year...we really don't have anything worth trading to acquire a solid player so our only appeal with holding on to cap space this year is not tying up bad money for next year and potentially have space to double retain for asset acquisition this year before that disappears in the next CBA,
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I don't recall any trades we made at the deadline that has moved the needle for this team going into the playoffs. Dubas and now Tre have left the cupboards dry and losing Marner for basically nothing is downright idiotic. We can't make a decent trade to acquire anyone that can remotely replace Marner, and there's nothing on the farm or juniors maybe Cowan that makes the future look more promising. Unless Tre works miracles I think we are in for a downfall. I'm sure Tre's looking hard overseas because the only thing I see is bringing in players from Russia or Europe etc that won't cost anything other than money because we don't have anything to offer in a trade really.
 
In a perfect world, we keep Cowan and let him develop as long as necessary. However, it's not a perfect world. The Leafs really have up to 3 seasons (Matthews contract) to win a Cup, so if that requires moving Cowan to bring in the right player(s), so be it.

How likely is he to be a significant contributor in the next 3 years? Two years ago I thought he was almost ready for the NHL, he looked really good in preseason. Then last year, not so much. So I really don't have any idea how long it will be before he makes an impact. It may well be that his impact will be allowing the Leafs to add an important piece that helps them win now. We'll see.
 
With free agency basically done the Leafs are sitting with

Knies - Matthews - Maccelli
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Domi - Roy - Jarnkrok
Kampf - Laughton - Lorentz
Pezzetta

The team did nothing to address the fact that the defence can't move the puck up the ice with any reliability. We lost an important player for that in Marner. Couple that with Berube's approach of having the team collapse in the defensive zone and I think this is going to be an ugly and not fun year to watch Leafs hockey.
 
L K said:
With free agency basically done the Leafs are sitting with

Knies - Matthews - Maccelli
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Domi - Roy - Jarnkrok
Kampf - Laughton - Lorentz
Pezzetta

The team did nothing to address the fact that the defence can't move the puck up the ice with any reliability. We lost an important player for that in Marner. Couple that with Berube's approach of having the team collapse in the defensive zone and I think this is going to be an ugly and not fun year to watch Leafs hockey.
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Wish you hadn’t written it out like that 😂

You’re right though. A lot of leafs hockey last season was nigh on unwatchable. Apparently in the name of making the team more of a force in the playoffs. Sacrificing the entertainment of 82 games for the potential of a playoff run where actually nothing much had changed.

Now we’ve subtracted one of the rare entertaining lights from it as well.

I agree about the D especially.

Thing is I can’t really see any ways to make any more improvements, either entertainment wise or potential result wise.

Of your bottom 2 lines I’d actually like to see really only 3 of them remain (Roy, Laughton, Lorentz) so maybe if we can reshape that or something
 
It’s July 3rd and I would’ve been way more upset if Treliving added a lot of free agents, given that the players on the market were collectively both (mostly) expensive and underpowered.

Let’s see what other trades materialize (Maccelli, Roy). Rosters are a work in progress until after the deadline.
 
herman said:
It’s July 3rd and I would’ve been way more upset if Treliving added a lot of free agents, given that the players on the market were collectively both (mostly) expensive and underpowered.

Let’s see what other trades materialize (Maccelli, Roy). Rosters are a work in progress until after the deadline.
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I'd have a lot more optimism if we had anything worth trading. We spent all our bullets on 4th line centres who the coach wouldn't play higher in the lineup to force Holmberg down our throats....who the team subsequently let walk in free agency.

I get this isn't likely to be the final roster but I have a hard time seeing how we find top of the lineup talent when our trade assets are limited
 
L K said:
I'd have a lot more optimism if we had anything worth trading. We spent all our bullets on 4th line centres who the coach wouldn't play higher in the lineup to force Holmberg down our throats....who the team subsequently let walk in free agency.

I get this isn't likely to be the final roster but I have a hard time seeing how we find top of the lineup talent when our trade assets are limited
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That’s very fair; I think the team is well positioned to capitalize if something shakes loose, say in November when some teams start to separate themselves from the pack in the wrong direction. The most likely option would be a rather expensive player with a bit of trade control that wants to come here, instead of slumming it in a rebuild (all the yellow teams).

In the meantime, we have the room to stress test some options on the cusp.
 
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