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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2020, 03:36:35 PM »
Yeah. They don't have a clear 4th forward to protect. They really only have one forward that they'd need to protect from a talent and age POV. Parise and Zuccarello are useful forwards, but with their age and cap hits, if they didn't have NMCs, I'd consider exposing them just to be rid of their contracts.

Oh I imagine Guerin would happily get out of either of those contracts if he could. I would guess even if he could expose them Seattle wouldn't touch Parise. Maybe they consider Zuccarello but only if he has a big season in 20/21.

Minnesota's really got themselves in bad shape up front.

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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2020, 04:13:07 PM »

Projecting fans back in the stands in 3 years, eh?

It makes sense for the owner to want to wait until later in the contract to pay the big bucks considering the financial situation right now, but that also benefits Brodin quite a bit because of how escrow is capped for the few years, right?

20/21: 20%
21/22: 14-18%
22/23: 14-18%
23/24: 10%
24/25: 6%

It's not surprise the big bucks kick in when escrow starts to take the biggest decrease.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2020, 06:28:32 PM »
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2020, 08:15:20 PM »
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Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.


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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2020, 09:49:32 PM »
I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

Heh, this is true. I wonder how some of the comments on that trade have aged.

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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2020, 10:18:49 PM »
I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

Heh, this is true. I wonder how some of the comments on that trade have aged.
I'm betting the haven't aged well  That Weber contract was horrible. Might still be for Nashville if Weber retires lol. I didn't see PK's game falling off the cliff like it has.

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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2020, 10:17:46 AM »
I'm betting the haven't aged well  That Weber contract was horrible. Might still be for Nashville if Weber retires lol. I didn't see PK's game falling off the cliff like it has.

A potentially significant injury didn't help much. Without that, Subban would probably still be one of the best blue liners in the league.

Playing for a completely inept Devils team wasn't exactly great for him, either. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him bounce back if the Devils get their game together or if he moves to a new team.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2020, 10:41:37 AM »
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Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.
You mean testing players pre combine? Sorry, but Chayka in retrospect looks like a bit of an idiot. I think Dubas will course correct.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2020, 10:43:32 AM »
I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

Heh, this is true. I wonder how some of the comments on that trade have aged.
Just because the outcome was unfavorable doesn't mean the evaluation process was flawed necessarily. Nobody expected Subban to fall off a cliff and clearly Weber is defying the normal aging curve.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2020, 11:48:24 AM »
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Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.
You mean testing players pre combine? Sorry, but Chayka in retrospect looks like a bit of an idiot. I think Dubas will course correct.

Obviously Dubas hasn't necessarily done anything with the Leafs either.  It's not like our top players were drafted with depth picks to come out of nowhere but it is interesting how Chayka got a reputation for being so awesome while not actually doing anything.

Arizona has had four seasons with Chayka as the GM.  They finished with 70 points, 70 points, 86 points and 74 points (abbreviated season).  The only year his team "made" the playoffs was in a season where they had the 22nd best record in the league.  He accomplished nothing out of the way of any media scrutiny because noone cares about the team.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2020, 11:55:45 AM »

I admit I may not be tapped into online hockey discourse the way I once was but I never felt like Chayka had much of a reputation as some sort of genius wunderkind outside of his hiring at such a young age.

Which isn't to say I thought he did badly in Phoenix, just that I never noticed a big "Chayka's doing incredible work out there" movement.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2020, 11:56:58 AM »
Obviously Dubas hasn't necessarily done anything with the Leafs either.  It's not like our top players were drafted with depth picks to come out of nowhere but it is interesting how Chayka got a reputation for being so awesome while not actually doing anything.

Arizona has had four seasons with Chayka as the GM.  They finished with 70 points, 70 points, 86 points and 74 points (abbreviated season).  The only year his team "made" the playoffs was in a season where they had the 22nd best record in the league.  He accomplished nothing out of the way of any media scrutiny because noone cares about the team.

Did Chayka ever really have a reputation for being "awesome"? If anything I think he was sorta stuck between criticisms from all sides. The "old school" folks liked to criticize him for being an inexperienced stats guy and the "new school" folks often distanced themselves from him because he was using the types of analytics that they weren't particular fans of.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2020, 12:09:13 PM »
I'm betting the haven't aged well  That Weber contract was horrible. Might still be for Nashville if Weber retires lol. I didn't see PK's game falling off the cliff like it has.

A potentially significant injury didn't help much. Without that, Subban would probably still be one of the best blue liners in the league.

Playing for a completely inept Devils team wasn't exactly great for him, either. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him bounce back if the Devils get their game together or if he moves to a new team.
I think he possibly could turn things around. He seems to be working out like crazy.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2020, 06:53:14 PM »
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2020, 12:53:19 PM »
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