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COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« on: September 11, 2020, 09:26:39 PM »
He already did Kapanen for a first and H?llander (plus other stuff)
Now he?s selling off Bjugstad with retained salary for... a conditional 7th.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2020, 10:54:06 PM »
Now he?s selling off Bjugstad with retained salary for... a conditional 7th.

I'm not sure I get the derision. He's on an expiring deal not anywhere near worth his cap hit which is pretty substantial.. 4.2M or something like that... especially with the flat cap, is it realistic he'd be moved without retention?

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2020, 08:21:33 AM »
Yeah, if anything I don't really understand it from Minnesota's perspective.

I'm guessing the only value here is if he rebounds, they can flip him.

Have a look at Minnesota's roster...brutal:  https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/wild


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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2020, 09:27:18 AM »
I always liked Bjugstad; thought he was really going to break out after a couple pretty good years early on in Florida. I think a 7th rounder is worth the risk, really. He's only 28 and has produced quite nicely when healthy. Assuming Pitt is retaining a decent chunk of that 4.1 million, makes sense to me if I'm Minnesota.


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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2020, 01:24:10 PM »
I really thought Florida was going to be a force in the Atlantic a few years ago with Barkov-Trocheck-Bjugstad down the middle. So much for that I guess.

I think Minny made out well in this trade though. 50% retained salary (so a $2.05mil AAV) and all they give up is a 7th IF he plays 70 games or scores 35 points.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2020, 01:35:54 PM »
Yeah, if anything I don't really understand it from Minnesota's perspective.

I'm guessing the only value here is if he rebounds, they can flip him.

Have a look at Minnesota's roster...brutal:  https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/wild


They need a replacement for Koivu? I think he's costing them 3.2 mill in actual dollars.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2020, 03:19:00 PM »
Is it weird to say both Pittsburgh and Minnesota lost this trade?
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2020, 03:27:25 PM »
Bjugstad never really lived up to the hype, but he?s a solid defensive 3rd line C. Good pick up at a good price, as long they?re not expecting more than that.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2020, 04:31:53 PM »

This one lands in Carolina?s favour. the UFA rights for a bad player = 5th Rder. Montreal is already paying 4.625M for Karl Alzner to languish in the AHL.

Kind of mad at Dubas for not trading Montreal Ceci?s rights for a 2nd tbh
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2020, 10:03:47 AM »

This one lands in Carolina?s favour. the UFA rights for a bad player = 5th Rder. Montreal is already paying 4.625M for Karl Alzner to languish in the AHL.

Kind of mad at Dubas for not trading Montreal Ceci?s rights for a 2nd tbh
I don't get this move at all. Was Bergevin thinking there'd be a bidding war for this guy and wanted to get in early?   Makes me hopeful the Leafs can flip Barrie's rights for a pick. I mean why not we're not bringing him back.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2020, 10:14:09 AM »
I don't really know how bad Edmundson is. Just taking a quick look at ice time, he averaged the most PK time in the playoffs and was 3rd in TOI time. Is he a 4th, 5th, worse? Habs have lots of picks so not a big loss.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2020, 10:16:12 AM »
I don't get this move at all. Was Bergevin thinking there'd be a bidding war for this guy and wanted to get in early?   Makes me hopeful the Leafs can flip Barrie's rights for a pick. I mean why not we're not bringing him back.
If the money is low enough, I could see the Leafs resigning him but it would have to be a really cheap contract.

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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2020, 10:46:16 AM »
I don't really know how bad Edmundson is. Just taking a quick look at ice time, he averaged the most PK time in the playoffs and was 3rd in TOI time. Is he a 4th, 5th, worse? Habs have lots of picks so not a big loss.



He?s really good at a) letting opponents get good chances b) dumping the puck at the slightest sign of pressure c) not being where he?s supposed to be to receive passes.

https://hockeyviz.com/player/edmunjo93/CAR/1920
Check out Carolina?s attack/defense with and without Edmunson. Shades of Ben Harpur where you gotta ask, which team are you playing for, bud?

I really hope Montreal signs him.
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Re: COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2020, 12:01:25 PM »
I don't really know how bad Edmundson is. Just taking a quick look at ice time, he averaged the most PK time in the playoffs and was 3rd in TOI time. Is he a 4th, 5th, worse? Habs have lots of picks so not a big loss.



He?s really good at a) letting opponents get good chances b) dumping the puck at the slightest sign of pressure c) not being where he?s supposed to be to receive passes.

https://hockeyviz.com/player/edmunjo93/CAR/1920
Check out Carolina?s attack/defense with and without Edmunson. Shades of Ben Harpur where you gotta ask, which team are you playing for, bud?

I really hope Montreal signs him.
Thanks for the explanation. Well then this is a bizarre trade then. Hopefully they do sign him to a huge contract!