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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2020, 03:07:56 PM »
Weird landing spot, considering the cap, but, reasonable value in terms of assets. Montreal has some cap space to play with, but a big chunk of that is likely required to re-sign Max Domi and Victor Mete.

Their "playoff" appearance aside, they are supposed to be rebuilding a bit here too so it isn't like they need to go out and sign a bunch of guys in the offseason to try and be ultra competitive.  It's one year for Allen and its a guy you hopefully feel comfortable enough to let Price not play 65 games with or whatever the equivalent is going to be during the compressed season.

I'm not sure their management team feels that way - especially since they're not getting that really high 1st rounder this season that they seemed destined for pre-pandemic. And, if they did, why would they give up assets for a backup goalie when they can likely sign someone good enough to be the backup on a rebuilding team in the UFA market?
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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2020, 05:37:27 PM »
i have always found Bergevin a strange one... ( see Sergachev for Drouin,, )... i guess this will help them make the playoffs because of more wins from the back-up goalie... but Price will get every playoff start barring injury... and Allen will be on the bench earning $4.5... must be nice to have cap space....

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2020, 05:59:58 PM »
i have always found Bergevin a strange one... ( see Sergachev for Drouin,, )... i guess this will help them make the playoffs because of more wins from the back-up goalie... but Price will get every playoff start barring injury... and Allen will be on the bench earning $4.5... must be nice to have cap space....
You said it, make the playoffs. Also like the Leafs, their backup last year sucked. Habs have lots of cap space and an excess of picks. They may turn around and trade Allen, who knows at this point. Players also don't get paid in the playoffs.

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2020, 06:17:24 PM »
Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2020, 06:26:37 PM »
Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.
It's a great point and the Leafs will be leaning on Campbell a lot next season.

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2020, 08:27:52 PM »


Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.
It's a great point and the Leafs will be leaning on Campbell a lot next season.

On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2020, 10:08:53 PM »


Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.
It's a great point and the Leafs will be leaning on Campbell a lot next season.

On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league. 

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2020, 07:49:23 AM »


Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.
It's a great point and the Leafs will be leaning on Campbell a lot next season.

On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league.
Of course, but it still needs to be somebody better than the current options

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2020, 09:44:04 AM »


Should note too considering how compressed next season will likely be teams having two capable goalies is going to be very important.

This is a very interesting take...I hadn't thought of that.
It's a great point and the Leafs will be leaning on Campbell a lot next season.

On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league.
Of course, but it still needs to be somebody better than the current options
It will be interesting to see what they do on the Marlies. Ian Scott is back from injury and you also have Woll, who his teammates rave about. Maybe they platoon them but I think we'll see one go to the Growlers so both can play a lot. The Leafs will likely sign a vet ufa for not too much cash and waive him down to the Marlies. Don't know if they've given up on Kaskisuo yet but I would guess yes..

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2020, 09:47:45 AM »
On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league.
Of course, but it still needs to be somebody better than the current options

Even if it's just for the purpose of improving the goaltending for the Marlies it's something worth looking in to. Kaskisuo is a UFA and turns 27 this October, probably time to move on there. Ian Scott will need to be eased back into things after missing the entire year so he's likely earmarked for whatever the ECHL does this season. Hopefully Woll has a much stronger sophomore season but we'll need to bring someone in to compete with him for Marlies starts.

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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2020, 09:59:47 AM »
On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league.
Of course, but it still needs to be somebody better than the current options

Even if it's just for the purpose of improving the goaltending for the Marlies it's something worth looking in to. Kaskisuo is a UFA and turns 27 this October, probably time to move on there. Ian Scott will need to be eased back into things after missing the entire year so he's likely earmarked for whatever the ECHL does this season. Hopefully Woll has a much stronger sophomore season but we'll need to bring someone in to compete with him for Marlies starts.

Aren't the Marlies kind of depleted these days? i.e. Will his record really be indicative of how good he is?
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Re: Blues trade Jake Allen to Montreal
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2020, 11:02:25 AM »
On that note the Leafs will need an upgrade on their third stringer this summer. Can't be an injury away from Kaskisio or Woll playing significant NHL minutes.
I don't see anyone other then a league minimum guy as a 3rd stringer. If your top 2 guys go down you're in big trouble, like almost every team in the league.
Of course, but it still needs to be somebody better than the current options

Even if it's just for the purpose of improving the goaltending for the Marlies it's something worth looking in to. Kaskisuo is a UFA and turns 27 this October, probably time to move on there. Ian Scott will need to be eased back into things after missing the entire year so he's likely earmarked for whatever the ECHL does this season. Hopefully Woll has a much stronger sophomore season but we'll need to bring someone in to compete with him for Marlies starts.

Aren't the Marlies kind of depleted these days? i.e. Will his record really be indicative of how good he is?
Marlies were a mess last year after Keefe left. Woll had an up and down year but reading what some players say about him puts my mind at ease. They think he's the real deal. Has the talent, just has to adjust the mental side of the game. We will see where it goes. I wouldn't be surprised to see Woll and Scott fighting it out for the Marlies role. From what I've read, Scott is pretty much ready to go. He was on the ice regularly with the Leafs and will be again once the bubble closes and the Leafs get their facilities back. The future goalie(s) could be right in front of us. We'll see how they do this coming year.