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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #240 on: November 30, 2020, 09:36:02 AM »
Invalid Tweet IDI like the way this team cycles low-high to mix up the defensive structure (pretty similar to the Leafs and Lightning).

Ovchinnikov had himself a game (see the rest of the thread for his 5-pt night). He is leading his team with 30 pts in 19 games of Russian junior (MHL). The team has played 27 games.

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« Reply #241 on: November 30, 2020, 09:47:38 AM »
Ovchinnikov had himself a game (see the rest of the thread for his 5-pt night). He is leading his team with 30 pts in 19 games of Russian junior (MHL). The team has played 27 games.

7th in that league in points, but 1st in points per game. Tough to say what that means though, I looked through the last few years of point leaders in that league and none of the names really jumped out at me. Still, better than not being 1st in points per game.

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« Reply #242 on: November 30, 2020, 10:00:47 AM »
Ovchinnikov had himself a game (see the rest of the thread for his 5-pt night). He is leading his team with 30 pts in 19 games of Russian junior (MHL). The team has played 27 games.

7th in that league in points, but 1st in points per game. Tough to say what that means though, I looked through the last few years of point leaders in that league and none of the names really jumped out at me. Still, better than not being 1st in points per game.

I'm going to go with cautious optimism. Like, I'm excited to see our 5th rounder, who probably should've been a 3rd round pick, is working out nicely and playing a style that I find useful and pleasing to the eye.

The 5 pt night sort of shifts situation slightly into mirage territory. He recently got a taste of KHL minutes, which was paltry at best (his first three games' TOIs were 25s, 45s, 19s, before getting 6-7 min the next two. KHL is hard on youngsters like that because team owners/coaches need to win or else bad stuff happens when there's no money.).

Oh hey, he's at 32 pts in 20 games now (KHL stats updated ahead of EPs). He's playing all three phases of the game in junior and outpacing his 20-year old teammates as an 18-year old.

I really like this past Leafs draft class so far.
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« Reply #243 on: November 30, 2020, 10:18:15 AM »
Yep, not being bad is better than being bad. I'm always very cautious until I see someone at least put up points in the AHL.

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« Reply #244 on: November 30, 2020, 10:28:16 AM »
KHL is hard on youngsters like that because team owners/coaches need to win or else bad stuff happens when there's no money.

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« Reply #245 on: November 30, 2020, 12:55:16 PM »
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« Reply #246 on: November 30, 2020, 02:17:26 PM »
https://theathletic.com/2176728/2020/11/27/topi-niemela-leafs-draft/
Honestly, I'm still laughing about the Sens trading up to get Tyler Kleven at 44, for 59 (Roni Hirvonen) and 64 (Topi Niemela).
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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #247 on: November 30, 2020, 02:35:29 PM »
https://theathletic.com/2176728/2020/11/27/topi-niemela-leafs-draft/
Honestly, I'm still laughing about the Sens trading up to get Tyler Kleven at 44, for 59 (Roni Hirvonen) and 64 (Topi Niemela).

This seems a little premature.

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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #248 on: November 30, 2020, 03:15:00 PM »
https://theathletic.com/2176728/2020/11/27/topi-niemela-leafs-draft/
Honestly, I'm still laughing about the Sens trading up to get Tyler Kleven at 44, for 59 (Roni Hirvonen) and 64 (Topi Niemela).

This seems a little premature.

Really? Don't you know that since 1967 fans of this franchise have been patiently waiting and hoping to win InsideHockeyHeatmaps.com's Organizational Rankings?
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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #249 on: November 30, 2020, 03:21:03 PM »
https://theathletic.com/2176728/2020/11/27/topi-niemela-leafs-draft/
Honestly, I'm still laughing about the Sens trading up to get Tyler Kleven at 44, for 59 (Roni Hirvonen) and 64 (Topi Niemela).

This seems a little premature.

Really? Don't you know that since 1967 fans of this franchise have been patiently waiting and hoping to win InsideHockeyHeatmaps.com's Organizational Rankings?

That's not a real website.  I checked.

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« Reply #250 on: November 30, 2020, 03:32:37 PM »
That's not a real website.  I checked.

It's not yet but it's doing really well in the Russian Website Development system.
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« Reply #251 on: November 30, 2020, 03:42:09 PM »
That's not a real website.  I checked.

It's not yet but it's doing really well in the Russian Website Development system.

I think we need to moderate our expectations when a website is doing well in the RWD.  The quality of website competition within that system isn't very strong. 

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« Reply #252 on: November 30, 2020, 03:48:10 PM »
I think we need to moderate our expectations when a website is doing well in the RWD.  The quality of website competition within that system isn't very strong.

You say that but then an ordinary Canadian like BobJohnson88773606 #MCGA #TRUEPATRIOT *FIRETRUDEAU* says that actually Russia is terrific at everything so I don't know who to believe.
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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #253 on: November 30, 2020, 04:48:49 PM »
I think we need to moderate our expectations when a website is doing well in the RWD.  The quality of website competition within that system isn't very strong.

You say that but then an ordinary Canadian like BobJohnson88773606 #MCGA #TRUEPATRIOT *FIRETRUDEAU* says that actually Russia is terrific at everything so I don't know who to believe.

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Re: Ranking Prospects 2020-2021
« Reply #254 on: November 30, 2020, 07:14:30 PM »
KHL is hard on youngsters like that because team owners/coaches need to win or else bad stuff happens when there's no money.

People disappear in Russia.

You make mother Russia proud or you sleep in igloo in Siberia.
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