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« Reply #105 on: July 01, 2019, 10:18:12 PM »
Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Marincin/Harpur - Holl

Overall we are looking at an offensively equivalent group from the beginning of last season, but improved on defensive mobility (exits and entries) due to the shedding of Zaitsev and Hainsey. Essentially we’ve covered the loss of Gardiner temporarily to tide the group over until Sandin-Liljegren.

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« Reply #106 on: July 01, 2019, 10:20:52 PM »
Barrie isn’t the guy I wanted the Leafs to target. There’s a reason he was in the rumour mill to be traded the last 4 years. I think Leafs fans are going to be disappointed with his ability to play defence.

https://milehighsticking.com/2018/07/31/colorado-avalanche-evaluation-areas-improvement-tyson-barrie/

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« Reply #107 on: July 01, 2019, 10:22:07 PM »
It’s cute that you think this team will play defence :)

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« Reply #108 on: July 01, 2019, 10:35:00 PM »
Barrie isn’t the guy I wanted the Leafs to target. There’s a reason he was in the rumour mill to be traded the last 4 years. I think Leafs fans are going to be disappointed with his ability to play defence.

https://milehighsticking.com/2018/07/31/colorado-avalanche-evaluation-areas-improvement-tyson-barrie/
Not that I'm going to argue the point but that's from last year, 2018. We'll see how he does with Muzzin and at 2.75, the risk isn't high especially if Kerfoot can keep popping 40+ points..

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« Reply #109 on: July 01, 2019, 11:00:52 PM »
While I'm sad to see Kadri go, because of my Kadri winter classic jersey, this makes perfect sense for the the Leafs. Yes they give up an asset they've cultivated over the years, but third line centers are a lot easier to replace then acquiring a top 4 d-man is.

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« Reply #110 on: July 01, 2019, 11:02:49 PM »
This is a great trade.   Kadri really put his team in a bad position 2 years in a row when it mattered most.  His last moment as a leaf was the hit that led to him watching games from the press box.  It was time to move.

Leafs D gonna be a bit better next year.  Dubas with a strong July 1. 

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« Reply #111 on: July 01, 2019, 11:09:35 PM »
This is a great trade.   Kadri really put his team in a bad position 2 years in a row when it mattered most.  His last moment as a leaf was the hit that led to him watching games from the press box.

Barring serious injury to another player, I'll never stop laughing if Kadri gets suspended again in the first round of the playoffs.
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« Reply #112 on: July 01, 2019, 11:21:11 PM »
It’s cute that you think this team will play defence :)

Yeah, exactly.

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« Reply #113 on: July 01, 2019, 11:27:40 PM »
This is the trade that had to come, and Dubas pulled off a good one.  The salary retention is really something of a coup, since we usually come out on the short end of the stick on those.  And getting a cheaper replacement for Kadri as 3C, w/o too much dropoff in talent, is excellent work.

How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....

I'm still skeptical that this kind of defense will work in the playoffs.  I really hope they can lose Ceci and do something about that to help Muzzin out.

Sorry to see Nazem have to go before the team actually contends.  His career looked like it was going off the rails a few years ago but he straightened his attitude out and became a really effective player.

Colorado is going to have a hell of a team.

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« Reply #114 on: July 01, 2019, 11:31:48 PM »
Well they upgraded where they needed it most and moved a player with self-control issues.

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« Reply #115 on: July 01, 2019, 11:36:10 PM »
How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....

Because of this, I'm starting to think the Leafs really need to go for it this season. Get Marner signed to the cheapest bridge deal you can manage, dump Ceci, and use all that extra cap space to improve for the short-term as much as possible.

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« Reply #116 on: July 01, 2019, 11:40:09 PM »
Great day for Dubas and the Leafs. No complaints from me. Didn't like seeing Brown go but was necessary. Kadri's fate was sealed in the playoffs. He had to go but the return was very good.

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« Reply #117 on: July 01, 2019, 11:41:17 PM »
How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....

Because of this, I'm starting to think the Leafs really need to go for it this season. Get Marner signed to the cheapest bridge deal you can manage, dump Ceci, and use all that extra cap space to improve for the short-term as much as possible.

Hey Marner, Gardiner... y’all wanna sign a 1 year deal for funsies?

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« Reply #118 on: July 01, 2019, 11:46:46 PM »
How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....

Because of this, I'm starting to think the Leafs really need to go for it this season. Get Marner signed to the cheapest bridge deal you can manage, dump Ceci, and use all that extra cap space to improve for the short-term as much as possible.

Maybe.  A worstish-case scenario would be if Muzzin and Barrie both really click and we (say) lost in the finals.  They'd be due raises we can't afford.  What worries me even more is that at some point we may not be able to afford Rielly if he keeps playing at this past season's level.

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« Reply #119 on: July 01, 2019, 11:47:49 PM »
Not sure why people keep bringing up the suspensions as the reason for the trade... actually I do know why: easy narrative.

Kadri was the best trade chit we could afford to move on from under the right circumstances for an RD (thanks to Kerfoot). He’s 30 at great cap value and has scored 30 goals before. Trading Nylander is asinine. Kapanen or Johnsson are individually not enough for anything worthwhile. This was simply the cost of doing the business of trading from strength to shore up a weakness.


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