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Re: Leafs trade Kadri+ to Colorado for Barrie+
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2019, 07:39:09 PM »
I mean Hyman can still throw his weight around, but Kadri really struggled when there was no one else on his line to go to bat with him (Komarov) and he felt like he needed to do it all. Might as well just change the whole team style to annoyingly stoic, which is what we were really excellent at.

Maybe they just add that stuff at the deadline, given the reg season isn't much of a physical game.

Or just skip it entirely. The other team doesn’t get amped up hitting when everyone just bounces off and goes about scoring against you.

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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2019, 07:39:31 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2019, 07:41:17 PM »
I think Barrie almost certainly fills a more pressing need
That's the ticket. Everyone was bitching about making the D better and there was only one way to do that being up against the cap and that's through a trade. Kadri, while a very good player became expendable after last year's crap in the playoffs. He hurt the team more then any Bruin did, 2 years in a row. Good deal Dubas.
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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2019, 07:42:10 PM »
Is there any scenario now where the leafs can sign Gardiner and Marner?

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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2019, 07:42:48 PM »
I have to say Dubas has worked some serious magic this offseason. I’m quite impressed with what he has done. Now just sign Marner!

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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2019, 07:43:59 PM »
Is there any scenario now where the leafs can sign Gardiner and Marner?

They'd almost certainly have to clear cap space. They have to sign Kerfoot which will probably be 2.5-3.5 million and Marner is still sort of in the who knows territory. But even assuming they get Kerfoot at 2.5 and Marner at 9 and get rid of Ceci they'd only have about 3.5 to offer Gardiner.
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2019, 07:44:12 PM »
I mean Hyman can still throw his weight around, but Kadri really struggled when there was no one else on his line to go to bat with him (Komarov) and he felt like he needed to do it all. Might as well just change the whole team style to annoyingly stoic, which is what we were really excellent at.

Maybe they just add that stuff at the deadline, given the reg season isn't much of a physical game.

Or just skip it entirely. The other team doesn’t get amped up hitting when everyone just bounces off and goes about scoring against you.

We'll discuss this next spring, when which you'll be wrong again.

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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2019, 07:44:36 PM »
My initial reaction is that this is a huge steal by the Leafs. Wow.

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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2019, 07:44:42 PM »
Kerfoot was 56% on face-offs last season. Back to back 40-point seasons. Was just over 50% in possession last season. The drop from Kadri to him probably isn't that massive.

Maybe. But I worry we may be judging Kadri too much on a down year.


we wasn't playing top on 2 lines...just isn't suited for 3rd center. flourished in second line roll, which isn't an option in Toronto. if anything Matthews and Tavares will get more minutes this season

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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2019, 07:45:55 PM »
My initial reaction is that this is a huge steal by the Leafs. Wow.
They have to work on extending Barrie right away. Won't be a steal if he only plays 1 year.

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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2019, 07:48:42 PM »
I know it's not as much fun to look at this trade from the other perspective but the Avalanche were more or less able to do this trade to get a #2 C on a very good contract because they have a pretty bananas group of defensive prospects.

They now have the Mackinnon-Landeskog-Rantanen base to build around with Makar, Byram, Jost, Newhook, Timmins and so on coming up right behind them.
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2019, 07:53:43 PM »

Well, I think we can say Don Cherry will be happy with the Leafs' day. Ceci, Luchuk, Spezza, Harpur, Kerfoot, Barrie...all Canadians, 4/6 from Ontario, 1/6 from Kingston.
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2019, 07:57:49 PM »
I know it's not as much fun to look at this trade from the other perspective but the Avalanche were more or less able to do this trade to get a #2 C on a very good contract because they have a pretty bananas group of defensive prospects.

They now have the Mackinnon-Landeskog-Rantanen base to build around with Makar, Byram, Jost, Newhook, Timmins and so on coming up right behind them.

It was a very good trade for both sides. You don't hear that very often.

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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2019, 08:01:19 PM »
Once he took that suspension against Boston his days were numbered.
Yep, when Nazim did the same thing twice and perhaps was the deciding factor in our failure to not pass Boston at least one of the years, was his writing on the wall. Good luck with the Aves, I don't hold grudges.
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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2019, 08:05:56 PM »
It was a very good trade for both sides. You don't hear that very often.

It's interesting because looking at it strictly on a talent-in and talent-out basis it's hard to see it as Colorado doing that well. Obviously that's not as big a deal if Kadri rebounds some but even more than that it maybe underscores just how valuable Kadri's contract was.
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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2019, 08:05:56 PM »