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« on: July 01, 2019, 12:11:45 PM »
We have the following to show for JVR, Bozak, Marleau, our 2020 first rounder other tan cap space.

That is an acceptable strategy when a team is bottoming out, not when it is a playoff contender.

As Milt Dunnell observed back in the 60's when the news hit that drunken Leaf executives had agreed to sell Frank Mahovlich to the Black Hawks for $1M: "A million dollars can do a lot of things but it can't play left wing".

Neither can cap space.

And just who is responsible for the lack of cap space?

A smarter strategy would have been to peg the Tavares contract as the the maximum contract with other players having to line up under that amount. Dubas did not do so with Matthews, he overpaid Nylander and now faces the same problem with Marner.

We have won only 8 of our last 20 playoff games and not a single playoff round.

We have just given away $3M (Zaitsev's bonus) and Connor Brown for an even worse Dman than Zaitsev who earns more money. I realize Zaitsev has a longer contract but we already paid $3M of it today and we will either end up paying Ceci more (when he accepts the QO, he would be an idiot not to) or we will lose him when an arbitrator gives him $5M for next year. Plus $4.3M will be cheap in about a year the way contracts are going and with the renegotiation of TV rights and the CBA.

Our top 4 defensemen consist of Morgan Reilly and, well, that's it: Hainsey are gone and it looks like Gardiner soon will be (if so, it will again be an asset lost for nothing). Hainsey, Gardiner and Zaitsev may not be the second coming of Lapointe, Robinson and Savard but they are damn sight better that Kenny "who dat?" Agostino and his ilk.

Weakening an already weak blueline is destructive.

Don't get me started on keeping Sparks over McElhinney and then extending Sparks after 80% of an obviously disappointing season only to send him home.

The goal is to win in the playoffs and the current roster cannot do that and the moves this off season pretty much ensure that we won't do so next year.

It makes me wonder if Dubas' goal is to get Babcock fired.


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Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 12:14:44 PM »
lol

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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2019, 12:16:44 PM »
Step away from the keyboard buddy.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2019, 12:17:51 PM »
Why would any person care about MLSE paying Zaitsev's signing bonus?

And yes, that's what I'm pulling out of that post. Others can take care of the other parts.  :P

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2019, 12:18:13 PM »
Not even worth replying to.
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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 12:18:19 PM »
JVR, Bozak, Marleau were all Lamoriello decisions. So should this thread not be re-titled?

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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 12:19:09 PM »
RIP Jake Muzzin

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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2019, 12:19:56 PM »
The short answer is no.  Dubas is 1 year into the job.

He's basically made 2 trades - Muzzin for a 1st+ which was a good move, and a 1st to get out of the Marleau contract, which was rough but necessary to make room for Kap/Mango/Marner.

JFJ traded Rask for Raycroft, and a 1st for Toskala.

They're not even in the same stratosphere at the moment.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2019, 12:20:01 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2019, 12:22:21 PM »
Step away from the keyboard buddy.
Yup. Cap world, have to pay elite players, collateral damage will happen yearly.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2019, 12:22:39 PM »
This just in, Dubas signs Jeff Finger for a 5 year $5 million deal.

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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2019, 12:23:26 PM »

STUPID DUBAS! MAKE DEFENSE GOODER!!!
Give a man the reputation of an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2019, 12:27:22 PM »
Is it possible to ignore whole threads?

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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2019, 12:30:06 PM »
A smarter strategy would have been to peg the Tavares contract as the the maximum contract with other players having to line up under that amount. Dubas did not do so with Matthews, he overpaid Nylander and now faces the same problem with Marner.

This, of course, is true. It would have been much smarter if Dubas had gone with the very very smart and well considered strategy of...paying players less than they want.
Give a man the reputation of an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon
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Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2019, 12:30:06 PM »