Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa

[CarltonTheBear]

For what it's worth, Evolving-Wild's wins and goals above replacement models both have Ceci ranked above Zaitsev (but neither of their numbers are anything to write home about).

[bustaheims]

Hainsey will be good with the young D.

I have my doubts about that. The on ice impact of mentorship is over stated.

[Zee]

For what it's worth, Evolving-Wild's wins and goals above replacement models both have Ceci ranked above Zaitsev (but neither of their numbers are anything to write home about).

Was Ceci played too high up for the Sens? Maybe less minutes he may be more effective

[Frycer14]

For what it's worth, Evolving-Wild's wins and goals above replacement models both have Ceci ranked above Zaitsev (but neither of their numbers are anything to write home about).

Was Ceci played too high up for the Sens? Maybe less minutes he may be more effective

Giving any bad player fewer minutes is going to be a positive. The problem is, the Leafs are short a lot of good defencemen. I sure hope Dubas has some sort of plan here, because starting the season with Reilly, Muzzin and a bunch of ahl'ers is not going to work out well.

[Guilt Trip]

For what it's worth, Evolving-Wild's wins and goals above replacement models both have Ceci ranked above Zaitsev (but neither of their numbers are anything to write home about).

Was Ceci played too high up for the Sens? Maybe less minutes he may be more effective

Giving any bad player fewer minutes is going to be a positive. The problem is, the Leafs are short a lot of good defencemen. I sure hope Dubas has some sort of plan here, because starting the season with Reilly, Muzzin and a bunch of ahl'ers is not going to work out well.

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

[Frycer14]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

[Bender]

For what it's worth, Evolving-Wild's wins and goals above replacement models both have Ceci ranked above Zaitsev (but neither of their numbers are anything to write home about).

Was Ceci played too high up for the Sens? Maybe less minutes he may be more effective

Giving any bad player fewer minutes is going to be a positive. The problem is, the Leafs are short a lot of good defencemen. I sure hope Dubas has some sort of plan here, because starting the season with Reilly, Muzzin and a bunch of ahl'ers is not going to work out well.

I think any rational human being would know that Dubas has a plan.

[Zee]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

I get the sentiment, but rather than lottery ticket total crapshoot less than 0.1% chance or whatever, these are players they've been developing and watching longer than any of us so they can project what they'll be. Not exactly a total shot in the dark.

[Nik Bethune]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

So what sort of approach to upgrading the Leafs defense should management take given their limited cap space?

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

I say again, bring up all the young dudes and let Freddie bail them out (or not) as they learn. It's the only way.

[RedLeaf]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

Lol. No. That’s not a good approach.

[Frycer14]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

So what sort of approach to upgrading the Leafs defense should management take given their limited cap space?

Trade.

[Nik Bethune]

Trade.

Trade who? And for who? And what reason is there to believe that the Forward for Defense trade market has gotten a lot better?

[Guilt Trip]

On paper yes, but we dont know. Liljegren, Borgman, Rosen whoever could do well if they're here. We just dont know until it happens.

Hopefully no one in the leaf brass shares the "well, we could win lotto max instead of planning for retirement" approach to sports management.

The season doesnt start tomorrow. I suspect Dubas has a plan but I still stand by what I said. We wont know if any of the AHLers will succeed until they're actually here. We'll see.

[RedLeaf]

Sounds like there may have been a trade for Kadri in the works that fell thru. I’m sure the Leafs haven’t stopped taking calls on their forwards to try and turn one of them into a top D-man.