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Quote from: Bill_Berg on July 01, 2019, 09:12:37 AMSure, but if both teams intend to walk away, couldn't the Sens have got Zaitsev without including Ceci in the deal? Did they want to move him? Did the Leafs want him included? One of those must be true right? If so, why did Ott care about moving him or why did the Leafs want him in return?My hunch is that the Leafs feel they can flip Ceci for something or other. So getting him, and some value, was probably part of the deal on their part. I think walking away is seen as sort of a last resort option but one they're still happy to have.
Sure, but if both teams intend to walk away, couldn't the Sens have got Zaitsev without including Ceci in the deal? Did they want to move him? Did the Leafs want him included? One of those must be true right? If so, why did Ott care about moving him or why did the Leafs want him in return?
So still a big chunk of the trade that we don't know about. I wonder if the Leafs try to use one of their many LHD (say Borgman) to try and pry out DeMelo as well.
Yes, Ceci verbally agreed to a one year, $4.5 million contract with the Leafs. Arb case likely would have come in above that and that wouldn’t have worked for Toronto. Good opportunity for Ceci to raise his market value. https://t.co/wgtJP7T7rJ— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) July 1, 2019
Yes, Ceci verbally agreed to a one year, $4.5 million contract with the Leafs. Arb case likely would have come in above that and that wouldn’t have worked for Toronto. Good opportunity for Ceci to raise his market value. https://t.co/wgtJP7T7rJ
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 01, 2019, 12:11:53 AMQuote from: Peter D. on July 01, 2019, 12:02:29 AMI’ll reserve complete judgement until seeing what other pieces are involved and what the cap space is used for. Because even with his contract, I’d much rather have Zaitsev over Ceci. Ceci’s terrible.I'm with you there.BTW, and I hope you all will take this observation from a Yank in the spirit in which it was intended, but I think it was really short-sighted for Canada to schedule a big national holiday on the same day free agency opens. Like, duh.I will have you know, sir, that our first Prime Minister, Sir John A. MacDonald himself specifically chose this day so that we could all get drunk before noon.
Quote from: Peter D. on July 01, 2019, 12:02:29 AMI’ll reserve complete judgement until seeing what other pieces are involved and what the cap space is used for. Because even with his contract, I’d much rather have Zaitsev over Ceci. Ceci’s terrible.I'm with you there.BTW, and I hope you all will take this observation from a Yank in the spirit in which it was intended, but I think it was really short-sighted for Canada to schedule a big national holiday on the same day free agency opens. Like, duh.
I’ll reserve complete judgement until seeing what other pieces are involved and what the cap space is used for. Because even with his contract, I’d much rather have Zaitsev over Ceci. Ceci’s terrible.
Not sure if speculation or legit:Yes, Ceci verbally agreed to a one year, $4.5 million contract with the Leafs. Arb case likely would have come in above that and that wouldn’t have worked for Toronto. Good opportunity for Ceci to raise his market value. https://t.co/wgtJP7T7rJ— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) July 1, 2019
Yeah, I'll never say never but I'd be pretty shocked if we ever see Ceci in a Leafs uniform.
Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 01, 2019, 09:00:38 AMYeah, I'll never say never but I'd be pretty shocked if we ever see Ceci in a Leafs uniform.And disappointed. There's no way he should be a future part of the defense. Maybe a mid-season trade?
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 01, 2019, 09:41:38 AMQuote from: Nik the Trik on July 01, 2019, 09:00:38 AMYeah, I'll never say never but I'd be pretty shocked if we ever see Ceci in a Leafs uniform.And disappointed. There's no way he should be a future part of the defense. Maybe a mid-season trade? Or a mid-season extension.
If Ceci's in the lineup to start the season, I hate this trade, with a capital H.
Most of you are calling this a salary dump, but I never thought that Zaitsev at 4.5 is a gross overpay. Mobile right shot dmen are hard to find and I really think Z's offensive skills were being suppressed in his role with leafs. He will likely get some decent PP time with Sens and his 4.5 per could turn out to be a good contract for them.