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Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« on: December 04, 2018, 11:59:51 AM »

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 12:04:32 PM »
They'll be joining the Pacific division (instant geographical rivalry with Vancouver) and Arizona will be moving to the Central division (something that they apparently aren't happy with, as it means increased travel and they're poor). That finally gives all 4 divisions 8 teams.

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 12:06:03 PM »
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This conveniently means the 2020 lockout won't effect them!

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 12:08:28 PM »
To start in 2021-2022....

So, given that they've already announced they will keep the same expansion rules..... yeah, way too far ahead to make a protected list except the big 4 up front and Rielly

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 12:09:38 PM »
To start in 2021-2022....

So, given that they've already announced they will keep the same expansion rules..... yeah, way too far ahead to make a protected list except the big 4 up front and Rielly

Do you think they should protect Bracco, yes or no?

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 12:20:35 PM »
To start in 2021-2022....

So, given that they've already announced they will keep the same expansion rules..... yeah, way too far ahead to make a protected list except the big 4 up front and Rielly

Do you think they should protect Bracco, yes or no?

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Protected:
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Kadri
Kapanen
Grundstrom ?
Rielly
Dermott
?
Goalie

EDIT:  WHOLY SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT MY BOY DERMOTT.  And yes, I don't expect Liljegren up this year, so he should be exempt
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 02:46:54 PM by Coco-puffs »

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 12:21:08 PM »
They'll be joining the Pacific division (instant geographical rivalry with Vancouver) and Arizona will be moving to the Central division (something that they apparently aren't happy with, as it means increased travel and they're poor).

By that time it'll probably be Kansas City or Houston's probelm.
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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2018, 01:02:34 PM »
I honestly don’t like it, how big is big enough? The 650M doesn’t even raise the cap? Further dilute the talent pool.
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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 02:17:29 PM »
Potato GM Version:

Protected:
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Kadri
Kapanen
Grundstrom ?
Rielly
? (Liljegren, assuming he plays all of next year in the NHL)
?
Goalie

I think as long as Liljegren doesn't play 10 games this season he's going to be exempt. If he plays in the NHL next season then 19/20 will be considered his first professional season and 20/21 would be his second professional season.

So that would mean we could comfortable fit Rielly, Dermott, and someone else (Gardiner maybe, or Oz, or another top-4 guy we pick it between then) on our list.
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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 02:26:14 PM »
Potato GM Version:

Protected:
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Kadri
Kapanen
Grundstrom ?
Rielly
? (Liljegren, assuming he plays all of next year in the NHL)
?
Goalie

I think as long as Liljegren doesn't play 10 games this season he's going to be exempt. If he plays in the NHL next season then 19/20 will be considered his first professional season and 20/21 would be his second professional season.

So that would mean we could comfortable fit Rielly, Dermott, and someone else (Gardiner maybe, or Oz, or another top-4 guy we pick it between then) on our list.

I don't think Lilypad will be ready even next season so no worry there.  Although there is worry as to whether he ever lives up to the potential we thought he had.

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 02:29:33 PM »
Potato GM Version:

Protected:
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Kadri
Kapanen
Grundstrom ?
Rielly
? (Liljegren, assuming he plays all of next year in the NHL)
?
Goalie

I think as long as Liljegren doesn't play 10 games this season he's going to be exempt. If he plays in the NHL next season then 19/20 will be considered his first professional season and 20/21 would be his second professional season.

So that would mean we could comfortable fit Rielly, Dermott, and someone else (Gardiner maybe, or Oz, or another top-4 guy we pick it between then) on our list.

I don't think Lilypad will be ready even next season so no worry there.  Although there is worry as to whether he ever lives up to the potential we thought he had.

Well, Liljegren is only 19, so I would give him another year or two. 

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 02:42:39 PM »
I don't think Lilypad will be ready even next season so no worry there.  Although there is worry as to whether he ever lives up to the potential we thought he had.

Because he'll turn 20 next season will actually count as his first professional season as far as the expansion draft goes even if he's in the AHL. But that doesn't make a difference.

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 02:48:22 PM »
I don't think Lilypad will be ready even next season so no worry there.  Although there is worry as to whether he ever lives up to the potential we thought he had.

Because he'll turn 20 next season will actually count as his first professional season as far as the expansion draft goes even if he's in the AHL. But that doesn't make a difference.

I believe you are correct.  For some reason I thought if you played two full seasons (ie 82 + 82 starting next year) that you wouldn't be exempt, but I was wrong. 

Also, I forgot Dermott because I had a brain fart... he'd be protected for sure.

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 02:49:44 PM »
Potato GM Version:

Protected:
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Kadri
Kapanen
Grundstrom ?
Rielly
? (Liljegren, assuming he plays all of next year in the NHL)
?
Goalie

I think as long as Liljegren doesn't play 10 games this season he's going to be exempt. If he plays in the NHL next season then 19/20 will be considered his first professional season and 20/21 would be his second professional season.

So that would mean we could comfortable fit Rielly, Dermott, and someone else (Gardiner maybe, or Oz, or another top-4 guy we pick it between then) on our list.

I don't think Lilypad will be ready even next season so no worry there.  Although there is worry as to whether he ever lives up to the potential we thought he had.

Well, Liljegren is only 19, so I would give him another year or two.

Oh I know, I'm not throwing the towel in by any means, I'm just wondering why Sandin has been able to adjust so quickly in the AHL at 18 and Lily is still seemingly struggling at times.  Have you noticed I'm on the Sandin hype train?

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Re: Seattle approved as 32nd franchise
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 05:44:16 PM »
Oh I know, I'm not throwing the towel in by any means, I'm just wondering why Sandin has been able to adjust so quickly in the AHL at 18 and Lily is still seemingly struggling at times.  Have you noticed I'm on the Sandin hype train?

Liljegren's got higher expectations and one missing year of development, but acquitted himself well in his first season as an 18 year old in a league dominated by almost NHLers, former NHLers, and generally older, stronger, faster professionals. Fans are probably looking for the offensive pop that put Liljegren on the radar, but he's being put through a program of defensive development, so there's definitely a learning curve to what amounts to re-wiring your brain.

Sandin has looked good early on playing essentially the same game he played in the Soo, in that he already knows the North American rink angles, the Soo plays the style that is similar to what the Marlies do (coached by former Soo head coach Sheldon Keefe, built by former Soo GM Kyle Dubas). It doesn't show up in the highlights but there are still moments he gets lost in his own zone (Babcock's system is very fluid, and AHL is messy in general). His scoring is a mirage for the most part in that he (and all of our system's defensemen*) are just shooting to get the puck on net through traffic, and plinkos (Polaks? Hainseys?) happen (Sandin's first goal).

* Our defense isn't shooting for goals unless they're sweeping in as F3/4 into soft ice at the circles or lower (Rielly's often the recipient, Ozhiganov's first NHL goal is a good example too)
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