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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2018, 11:37:33 PM »

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2018, 12:08:21 AM »
91 is the upside down of 16

I will pay for a Maple Leafs themed T-shirt where somebody exploits that with a Yin Yang symbol.  I mean, literally, side-by-side, the middle part of 1691 generally makes the Yin Yang symbol.

I'll take 10% of royalties if one of you develops and markets this shirt.
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 12:31:05 AM »
91 is the upside down of 16

I will pay for a Maple Leafs themed T-shirt where somebody exploits that with a Yin Yang symbol.  I mean, literally, side-by-side, the middle part of 1691 generally makes the Yin Yang symbol.

I'll take 10% of royalties if one of you develops and markets this shirt.

I was mulling a graphic about this, but my Photoshop/Illustrator skills are trash.
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 06:19:51 AM »
Is Levio-Kadri-Brown really a thing? I guess Babs is thinking shutdown line.

Kappi and Johnsson are not 4th liners. Glad to have an embarrassment of riches but I rather see Levio and Brown play 4th line minutes.

 :o It's the first preseason game of the season.
Yeah, but it appears the first draft of the regular season lineup has Kadri playing with these two.

Dermott pairing sucked. Still worried about our D... tossing grenades.

Your first preseason game is not a draft of the regular season. There's several players that watched the game on a TV. Are we to assume that Clark or Moore has a spot too? I mean, they were in the first draft of the line up.

Now, Brown could very well end up on Kadri's wing but I doubt that you see those 3 together very often.

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2018, 07:34:36 AM »
Very impressed with Borgman who seems serious at landing a spot with the big club.  Looks good on the rush, sports a good point shot, not afraid to use the body.  So far, so good.

Tavares & Marner surely didn't miss a beat.  These guys could have had skates strapped on all summer long for all we know. (only joking).
Tavares + Marner = m-a-g-i-c
They complement each other on that ice admirably.

McElhinney & Sparks dressed to impress.  McBackup is the experienced, calm, and collected one.
Sparks is the confident, advantageous one and by that his sheer size and span across his net forced the hand of his opponents that resulted in botched chances.
Take your pick, whom do you prefer?

Leivo.  Of all the Leafs, he had the most SOG (5) plus some chances to convert which he didn't.  He needs to find that net but can generally skate and go with the flow. 
The Leivo-Kadri-Brown generated chances in the offensive zone as well as time but little in the way of anything short of spectacular. 

Olzighanov came across as a Polak with a brain.
Dermott played okay, at times not okay.

Not too happy that the Leafs D continues with sloppy play (hey, it's only a pre-season game). 

Glad the Leafs won and happy that Johnny T is a Leaf!!!

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2018, 08:34:25 AM »
Is Levio-Kadri-Brown really a thing? I guess Babs is thinking shutdown line.

Kappi and Johnsson are not 4th liners. Glad to have an embarrassment of riches but I rather see Levio and Brown play 4th line minutes.

 :o It's the first preseason game of the season.
Yeah, but it appears the first draft of the regular season lineup has Kadri playing with these two.

Dermott pairing sucked. Still worried about our D... tossing grenades.

Your first preseason game is not a draft of the regular season. There's several players that watched the game on a TV. Are we to assume that Clark or Moore has a spot too? I mean, they were in the first draft of the line up.

Now, Brown could very well end up on Kadri's wing but I doubt that you see those 3 together very often.
Yep, I don't think Matthews has a spot on this team...

Looking at today's lines and yesterday's I think we can all assume that Babcock's first draft of the opening day lineup is:

Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Kapanen


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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2018, 09:47:52 AM »
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/09/19/preseason-game-1-toronto-maple-leafs-4-vs-ottawa-senators-1/

I missed this game, but I was following the score. The notes from MLHS paint a pretty promising picture.

Babcock has been dangling the carrot in front of Dermott and Johnsson (and to a lesser extent Leivo and Carrick, who were and are in a similar position in previous seasons) to not assume they've made the team (everyday is a try out) and demonstrate they can maintain their effort consistently.

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Igor Ozhiganov (#92) – Showed some promise as a #6 if he can polish up some rough edges to his game (took some bad routes, had some bad angles, hands looked a bit tight passing). His hockey fundamentals are fine — he has good defensive instincts, knows where to stand, and can box out properly. He certainly stands out on this team with his size and reach. He stepped in and showed off a cannon from the point that missed the net just wide in the third period, and he was credited with four shots on goal on the game sheet.

Mike Babcock’s review was positive after the game: “He can pass the puck, he can get it through, he sees the ice, his head’s up, he’s big. Good looking player.”

This isn’t based on anything solid, but it feels like Ozhiganov might have a bit of an early edge for the opening night #6 spot knowing he brings elements Babcock values that are not present elsewhere in the top six.

According to Justin Bourne's recent Q&A on The Athletic and his guest appearance on the latest Leaf Report Podcast (the live one), in a defender, Dubas highly values zone exit capabilities (which has a very strong correlation to future zone entries with possession and thus good chances on goal); Babcock, via DJ Smith (defense coach), highly value physical toughness (which has borne out in the repeated signing and deployment of Roman Polak). Unfortunately, both those characteristics rarely reside in the same player, and certainly would not at affordable prices. So it'll be about the team mix, and it looks like Ozhiganov indeed has a leg up because he provides that different element.
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2018, 09:58:00 AM »
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/09/19/preseason-game-1-toronto-maple-leafs-4-vs-ottawa-senators-1/

I missed this game, but I was following the score. The notes from MLHS paint a pretty promising picture.

Babcock has been dangling the carrot in front of Dermott and Johnsson (and to a lesser extent Leivo and Carrick, who were and are in a similar position in previous seasons) to not assume they've made the team (everyday is a try out) and demonstrate they can maintain their effort consistently.

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Igor Ozhiganov (#92) – Showed some promise as a #6 if he can polish up some rough edges to his game (took some bad routes, had some bad angles, hands looked a bit tight passing). His hockey fundamentals are fine — he has good defensive instincts, knows where to stand, and can box out properly. He certainly stands out on this team with his size and reach. He stepped in and showed off a cannon from the point that missed the net just wide in the third period, and he was credited with four shots on goal on the game sheet.

Mike Babcock’s review was positive after the game: “He can pass the puck, he can get it through, he sees the ice, his head’s up, he’s big. Good looking player.”

This isn’t based on anything solid, but it feels like Ozhiganov might have a bit of an early edge for the opening night #6 spot knowing he brings elements Babcock values that are not present elsewhere in the top six.

According to Justin Bourne's recent Q&A on The Athletic and his guest appearance on the latest Leaf Report Podcast (the live one), in a defender, Dubas highly values zone exit capabilities (which has a very strong correlation to future zone entries with possession and thus good chances on goal); Babcock, via DJ Smith (defense coach), highly value physical toughness (which has borne out in the repeated signing and deployment of Roman Polak). Unfortunately, both those characteristics rarely reside in the same player, and certainly would not at affordable prices. So it'll be about the team mix, and it looks like Ozhiganov indeed has a leg up because he provides that different element.

Ozhiganov went glass and out on one play I recall last night, shades of Roman Polak.

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2018, 10:23:16 AM »
Ozhiganov went glass and out on one play I recall last night, shades of Roman Polak.

Similar to a dump-in a the blue line, glass and out is sometimes the right play, i.e. when it is the only viable play that doesn't result in immediate continued possession by the offense. Gardiner should maybe use it a bit more. It's a big problem if it's the only play the defense knows how to make to get out of the zone when their partner is unavailable (Polak, Hainsey).
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2018, 10:35:59 AM »
Ozhiganov went glass and out on one play I recall last night, shades of Roman Polak.

Similar to a dump-in a the blue line, glass and out is sometimes the right play, i.e. when it is the only viable play that doesn't result in immediate continued possession by the offense. Gardiner should maybe use it a bit more. It's a big problem if it's the only play the defense knows how to make to get out of the zone when their partner is unavailable (Polak, Hainsey).

Yeah I was just being funny.  Can't draw any conclusions from one preseason game, want to see how Oz handles all situations before I determine whether he can move the puck better than Polak. Let's hope he's an upgrade.

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2018, 11:04:09 AM »
I think that we can all agree that one pre season game, played at a non-standard venue, is not in any way an accurate way to measure ability. We saw some good glimpses of Oz and I thought Cracknell and Clark were strong, but let's see what the candidates do on an NHL rink.

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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2018, 11:10:09 AM »
91 is the upside down of 16

I will pay for a Maple Leafs themed T-shirt where somebody exploits that with a Yin Yang symbol.  I mean, literally, side-by-side, the middle part of 1691 generally makes the Yin Yang symbol.

I'll take 10% of royalties if one of you develops and markets this shirt.

Something like this?



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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2018, 01:55:26 PM »
Very impressed with Borgman who seems serious at landing a spot with the big club.  Looks good on the rush, sports a good point shot, not afraid to use the body.  So far, so good.

Tavares & Marner surely didn't miss a beat.  These guys could have had skates strapped on all summer long for all we know. (only joking).
Tavares + Marner = m-a-g-i-c
They complement each other on that ice admirably.

McElhinney & Sparks dressed to impress.  McBackup is the experienced, calm, and collected one.
Sparks is the confident, advantageous one and by that his sheer size and span across his net forced the hand of his opponents that resulted in botched chances.
Take your pick, whom do you prefer?

Leivo.  Of all the Leafs, he had the most SOG (5) plus some chances to convert which he didn't.  He needs to find that net but can generally skate and go with the flow. 
The Leivo-Kadri-Brown generated chances in the offensive zone as well as time but little in the way of anything short of spectacular. 

Olzighanov came across as a Polak with a brain.
Dermott played okay, at times not okay.

Not too happy that the Leafs D continues with sloppy play (hey, it's only a pre-season game). 

Glad the Leafs won and happy that Johnny T is a Leaf!!!

I thought Borgman was very good last night, looked like he belongs.
Loved your comment on Oz, very true, looked pretty good actually.
Tavares say no more!
Leivo does belong and will not blow up cartoon balloons.
Sparks looked good, not that McBackup didn't
Oh, who is this guy Clark, have never heard his name or mentioned and he played like a beast, he wants to become a be-longer.
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Re: Preseason: sens @ Leafs - Sept. 18th, 7:30pm - SNO, TSN 1050
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2018, 04:39:03 PM »
Is Levio-Kadri-Brown really a thing? I guess Babs is thinking shutdown line.

Kappi and Johnsson are not 4th liners. Glad to have an embarrassment of riches but I rather see Levio and Brown play 4th line minutes.

 :o It's the first preseason game of the season.
Yeah, but it appears the first draft of the regular season lineup has Kadri playing with these two.

Dermott pairing sucked. Still worried about our D... tossing grenades.

Your first preseason game is not a draft of the regular season. There's several players that watched the game on a TV. Are we to assume that Clark or Moore has a spot too? I mean, they were in the first draft of the line up.

Now, Brown could very well end up on Kadri's wing but I doubt that you see those 3 together very often.
Yep, I don't think Matthews has a spot on this team...

Looking at today's lines and yesterday's I think we can all assume that Babcock's first draft of the opening day lineup is:

Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Kapanen

You can assume. I'm not assuming. I've seen one preseason game. Actually I watched one period. I'm not going to pretend that I know what the team will look like in two weeks. But go ahead.