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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3135 on: January 23, 2021, 10:02:02 AM »
Maybe it's time to split this thread off? I'd be more than happy to never have to look at The Donald thread again.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3136 on: January 23, 2021, 11:05:39 AM »
Maybe it's time to split this thread off? I'd be more than happy to never have to look at The Donald thread again.

2nded. There's a visceral negativity just in seeing the name.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3137 on: January 23, 2021, 12:04:25 PM »
The Donald still lives and Orange Man is not finished yet, more shenanigans to come.  Trials, new political party, new News channel. Or more room to fall.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3138 on: January 23, 2021, 12:26:51 PM »
Maybe it's time to split this thread off? I'd be more than happy to never have to look at The Donald thread again.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3139 on: January 23, 2021, 01:48:13 PM »
Well, Trudeau is at least feigning disappointment over Biden's decision:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7594940/trudeau-biden-chat-keystone-disappointment/

Seems sort of odd to suggest it's insincere disappointment considering he ran on supporting the pipeline and doing so probably cost him with voters on the left. He wanted it built, it won't be and so he's disappointed. He's not, however, enough of a lunatic to think this one project of questionable value is worth starting a trade dispute with our biggest partner over.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3140 on: January 23, 2021, 04:03:12 PM »
Well, Trudeau is at least feigning disappointment over Biden's decision:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7594940/trudeau-biden-chat-keystone-disappointment/

Seems sort of odd to suggest it's insincere disappointment considering he ran on supporting the pipeline and doing so probably cost him with voters on the left. He wanted it built, it won't be and so he's disappointed. He's not, however, enough of a lunatic to think this one project of questionable value is worth starting a trade dispute with our biggest partner over.

My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal. People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3141 on: January 23, 2021, 06:51:27 PM »
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3142 on: January 24, 2021, 07:23:58 AM »
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.

Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta. I realize that fossil fuels need to be moved away from.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3143 on: January 24, 2021, 09:03:18 AM »
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.
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« Reply #3144 on: January 24, 2021, 10:09:50 AM »
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

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« Reply #3145 on: January 24, 2021, 10:24:57 AM »
That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Not to worry. In the future I will try not to...directly respond to specific things you said.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3146 on: January 24, 2021, 11:40:25 AM »
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3147 on: January 24, 2021, 12:04:02 PM »
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.

You're also correct.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3148 on: January 24, 2021, 12:10:03 PM »
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.
But they already have a dinosaur theme park
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #3149 on: January 24, 2021, 12:55:04 PM »
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.

You're also correct.
Agreed.