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Re: The Donald
« Reply #2490 on: October 29, 2020, 10:17:04 AM »
Honestly as bad as Trump is, this Stephen Miller jerk is far worse.  He's going to escape any form of punishment but his hands are all over the atrocities occurring at the US-Mexico border.   I would gladly make an exception for witch hunts and burning at the stake for this monster.

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Depends on the variant of vampire Miller is.
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« Reply #2491 on: October 29, 2020, 11:49:17 AM »
Whats with guys named Miller this week. Burn them all.  ;)
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« Reply #2492 on: October 29, 2020, 01:02:47 PM »

If Trump loses, and boy do I hate that I still have to genuinely say if, how to deal with the crimes committed by the Trump administration is going to be probably the most difficult thing for a Biden Administration to deal with. Because while we all know what justice would require, there's no getting around that there's a dangerous precedent in having a new administration seeing members of the old one prosecuted. Some people have suggested a South African style reconciliation committee which seems unreasonably forgiving but something's got to give if there's any chance of America remaining a united country.
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Re: The Donald
« Reply #2493 on: October 29, 2020, 01:53:09 PM »
It's been awhile since I highlighted one of these, so for old times sake:

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« Reply #2494 on: October 29, 2020, 02:55:52 PM »

If Trump loses, and boy do I hate that I still have to genuinely say if, how to deal with the crimes committed by the Trump administration is going to be probably the most difficult thing for a Biden Administration to deal with.

Does trump not have a get out of jail free card if he loses as Pence could pardon him for any federal crimes? Can he not do this before January?
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« Reply #2495 on: October 29, 2020, 03:01:15 PM »
Doesn?t trump have a get out of jail free card if he loses as
Pence could pardon him for any federal crimes? Can?t he do this before January?

If he resigned and Pence pardoned him he'd be immune from federal prosecution but, as I understand it, not from prosecution in New York State where most of the financial crimes he's credibly accused of took place.

And, for what it's worth, it's somewhat murkier territory but when it comes to immunity from federal crimes I don't even know if he'd need Pence vs. just pardoning himself.
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« Reply #2496 on: October 29, 2020, 03:45:26 PM »
 Can anyone envision a scenario where Trump actually concedes if he loses? I can?t. I figure he won?t say anything and just leave, or put up the biggest of fights until jan.

Man November is going to suck. And I am not even American. I just want this lunatic gone.

My son was arguing with me saying that Biden is a poor candidate and I said I do not care, at this point if they put a goat wearing a hat in the White House as president it would be an improvement over this lunatic.

As flawed as Biden may be, at least he appears to have empathy and act like a normal human being. The White House can go back to the back room shenanigans and whatever deals they do, it?s better than this quasi dictator.

And many some of our American friends here can help me understand something. Why is social health care so evil? I don?t get it at all.

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« Reply #2497 on: October 29, 2020, 04:14:29 PM »
Can anyone envision a scenario where Trump actually concedes if he loses? I can?t. I figure he won?t say anything and just leave, or put up the biggest of fights until jan.

Man November is going to suck. And I am not even American. I just want this lunatic gone.

My son was arguing with me saying that Biden is a poor candidate and I said I do not care, at this point if they put a goat wearing a hat in the White House as president it would be an improvement over this lunatic.

As flawed as Biden may be, at least he appears to have empathy and act like a normal human being. The White House can go back to the back room shenanigans and whatever deals they do, it?s better than this quasi dictator.

And many some of our American friends here can help me understand something. Why is social health care so evil? I don?t get it at all.

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« Reply #2498 on: October 29, 2020, 04:22:20 PM »
Can anyone envision a scenario where Trump actually concedes if he loses? I can?t. I figure he won?t say anything and just leave, or put up the biggest of fights until jan.

Man November is going to suck. And I am not even American. I just want this lunatic gone.

My son was arguing with me saying that Biden is a poor candidate and I said I do not care, at this point if they put a goat wearing a hat in the White House as president it would be an improvement over this lunatic.

As flawed as Biden may be, at least he appears to have empathy and act like a normal human being. The White House can go back to the back room shenanigans and whatever deals they do, it?s better than this quasi dictator.

And many some of our American friends here can help me understand something. Why is social health care so evil? I don?t get it at all.

Born and raised (and now living in) in NY state.

Lots of people in this country don't trust the government to run a national health care system because they see all the waste and fraud in other government programs (medicare/medicaid for example), and they hear the horror stories that come out of the V.A. Plus among about half the population there is a strange aversion to "social" anything, despite the fact that they all plan to collect their "social security" payments, they all drive on roads paid for and maintained by tax dollars, etc. There's a ton of hypocrisy in this country.

My belief is that we're going to have to go to a national healthcare system someday and may as well start now. I don't have a great deal of confidence about how it will work out, but the current system is unsustainable for most.

As for Trump, I don't see him conceding unless the results are truly a landslide. If it's close, and it probably will be in many of the battleground states, he's going to challenge everything he can. I voted for the first time in like 30 years. There hasn't been much reason to vote, since I live in NY which is so overwhelming democrat-supporting, the electoral college system makes my vote really kind of pointless. But this year, I want the margin of victory to be as large as possible.

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Re: The Donald
« Reply #2499 on: October 29, 2020, 04:35:38 PM »
Can anyone envision a scenario where Trump actually concedes if he loses? I can?t. I figure he won?t say anything and just leave, or put up the biggest of fights until jan.

I don't think there's a single, solitary chance he does a traditional concession speech if he loses but I do kind of agree with the people who say that Trump hates being President and would be more amenable to leaving than some think.

Oh sure, on the way out the door he'll say the election was stolen due to massive voter fraud and maybe even launch some legal challenges but if it's a pretty safe EC margin I think he goes all the same.
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« Reply #2500 on: October 29, 2020, 05:42:06 PM »

 So which country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with the U.S. will he move to?

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« Reply #2501 on: October 29, 2020, 05:44:36 PM »

 So which country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with the U.S. will he move to?

Russia.

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« Reply #2502 on: October 29, 2020, 06:02:21 PM »
I can envision a scenario where Trump loses by enough that the lawsuits he?d otherwise file won?t change the outcome, and he just walks out of the Whitehouse the next day. No concession speech, no official resignation, no transfer of power. He just leaves in a huff, raging on Twitter as he boards the next flight to Russia.
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« Reply #2503 on: October 29, 2020, 06:36:05 PM »

 So which country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with the U.S. will he move to?

Russia.


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Re: The Donald
« Reply #2504 on: October 29, 2020, 07:11:07 PM »
Can anyone envision a scenario where Trump actually concedes if he loses? I can?t. I figure he won?t say anything and just leave, or put up the biggest of fights until jan.

Man November is going to suck. And I am not even American. I just want this lunatic gone.

My son was arguing with me saying that Biden is a poor candidate and I said I do not care, at this point if they put a goat wearing a hat in the White House as president it would be an improvement over this lunatic.

As flawed as Biden may be, at least he appears to have empathy and act like a normal human being. The White House can go back to the back room shenanigans and whatever deals they do, it?s better than this quasi dictator.

And many some of our American friends here can help me understand something. Why is social health care so evil? I don?t get it at all.

At the end of the day, while the candidate matters, the President is not the Messiah. His job is to put together a solid administration for the American people and he already did that for 8 years with Obama. He can't be THAT bad a candidate.
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