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Who will the Leafs choose?

Dylan Strome  (big player, fair skater, a complete centre)
2 (5.6%)
Mitch Marner  (smaller in size, excellent skater, an offensive playmaker)
17 (47.2%)
Noah Hanifin  (he's as good a defenceman as they come)
10 (27.8%)
No problem.  Any one of them is fine with me.
7 (19.4%)
I don't care as long as they get somebody, anybody.
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: June 25, 2015, 01:53:58 PM

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Offline Rob

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2015, 11:26:24 PM »
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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2015, 11:39:41 PM »

An oxymoron is a contradiction inherent in it's terms. Not a redundancy or a logical fallacy. So if I were to say someone was a short tall person or a strong weakling, that would be an oxymoron.

And that's not my opinion, that's just what the word means.

Spoken like a timorous narcissist.

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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2015, 11:48:29 PM »
If you think about the way the responses are worded like "I don't care" that's not a proper response but if BPA was put in there and anybody voting for another choice would obviously be stating their preference rather than who TO should take so I would think this was obviously worded, but not by shrimp.

So, basically, not only did most people give the clearly wrong answer to the question, but it was also the wrong question from the beginning, despite its clear phrasing, and everybody should clearly recognize it as such.
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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2015, 12:01:00 AM »

An oxymoron is a contradiction inherent in it's terms. Not a redundancy or a logical fallacy. So if I were to say someone was a short tall person or a strong weakling, that would be an oxymoron.

And that's not my opinion, that's just what the word means.

Spoken like a timorous narcissist.

True story. About 20 some odd years ago I think the Star had a contest for readers to submit new and humorous oxymorons and, if memory serves, I think my Dad won third place with "press release".
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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2015, 01:08:02 AM »

An oxymoron is a contradiction inherent in it's terms. Not a redundancy or a logical fallacy. So if I were to say someone was a short tall person or a strong weakling, that would be an oxymoron.

And that's not my opinion, that's just what the word means.

So you don't think a good skater for his size is an oxy, I do. I'm pleased to see an actual response. Since the NHL is populated by players of all sizes skating is rated in that environment not in some bizzaro world populated by extremely large players, the qualification therefore makes the statement an oxy.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2015, 01:22:08 AM »
'When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2015, 02:00:57 AM »
So you don't think a good skater for his size is an oxy, I do. I'm pleased to see an actual response. Since the NHL is populated by players of all sizes skating is rated in that environment not in some bizzaro world populated by extremely large players, the qualification therefore makes the statement an oxy.

No, see, the contradiction has to be inherent in the term. That's what the word means. In the NHL, the faster skaters tend to be the smaller players but bigger players can compensate with their size. So guys like Zdeno Chara and Hal Gill aren't super fast whereas Martin St. Louis could never have been in the NHL if he were slow. So a player being fast for his size is a legitimate thing to say as bigger players don't tend to be the fast ones and that's an assumption people then make.

Even still though, an oxymoron isn't just a word that is used to say an  statement is false or untrue, it has to be a figure of speech that is inherently contradictory by the definition of the words being used. "Being a good skater for a bigger player isn't a figure of speech and..."

You know what? Never mind. That's a really good oxymoron you used there. Really special.
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Re: Poll: NHL Entry Draft 2015: The Leafs
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2015, 03:25:29 AM »
Reminds me of "He's got good feet for a big man" which has become a bit of a cliché in football (soccer) over the past few years (the assumption being that tall players tend to be in the team to win headers/hold the ball up rather than because they are skillful). Because of my relative lack of hockey knowledge I'm not sure if the above could also be described as a cliché but it's what it made me think of at first read.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2015, 05:21:32 AM »
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