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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 5th
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2015, 04:41:13 PM »
Still only two picks in the top 60, which is disappointing.

Maybe a couple more can be acquired before draft day after the playoffs are over.

Yep, I'm expecting more moves around then.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 5th
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2015, 04:45:32 PM »
Still only two picks in the top 60, which is disappointing.

Maybe a couple more can be acquired before draft day after the playoffs are over.

Yep, I'm expecting more moves around then.

I mean really at this point can the Leafs go in to next season with Lupul, Bozak, Phanuef and Kessel on this team?
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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2015, 04:48:02 PM »
Brewer, Horton.. If Paul Coffey wasn't retired I'd think this team was working on a strange marketing plan with Tim Hortons.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2015, 04:58:36 PM »
Brewer, Horton.. If Paul Coffey wasn't retired I'd think this team was working on a strange marketing plan with Tim Hortons.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2015, 05:02:40 PM »
make that a dark roast
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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2015, 05:04:38 PM »
Correct me if I"m wrong, but is Holzer not a pending UFA.   He also has a concussion.  So we got something for a guy who at his worst may not even play another game and at best is a depth defenseman.  He's also exactly the kind of guy that would be available July 3rd if the Leafs want to bring him back.  In fact he's likely a guy who doesn't have a contract until the end of July.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2015, 05:08:01 PM »
Correct me if I"m wrong, but is Holzer not a pending UFA.   He also has a concussion.  So we got something for a guy who at his worst may not even play another game and at best is a depth defenseman.  He's also exactly the kind of guy that would be available July 3rd if the Leafs want to bring him back.  In fact he's likely a guy who doesn't have a contract until the end of July.

Holzer was definitely a UFA.
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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2015, 05:10:17 PM »

Correct me if I"m wrong, but is Holzer not a pending UFA.   He also has a concussion.  So we got something for a guy who at his worst may not even play another game and at best is a depth defenseman.  He's also exactly the kind of guy that would be available July 3rd if the Leafs want to bring him back.  In fact he's likely a guy who doesn't have a contract until the end of July.

As someone else mentioned, this was likely just a financial get out of jail trade for Anaheim.

The leafs also told Holzer they'd try and get him to a playoff team.

Two birds one stone.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2015, 06:03:12 PM »
Correct me if I"m wrong, but is Holzer not a pending UFA.   He also has a concussion.  So we got something for a guy who at his worst may not even play another game and at best is a depth defenseman.  He's also exactly the kind of guy that would be available July 3rd if the Leafs want to bring him back.  In fact he's likely a guy who doesn't have a contract until the end of July.

This deal was probably more about ditching Brewer's contract than it was acquiring a 8/9 defenceman. Despite often being a contending team the Ducks have usually had to work within an internal budget that is much lower than the actual cap. They added about $2.5mil to their budget in the Wisniewski trade so this helps soften that blow for the rest of the season.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 5th
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2015, 06:04:30 PM »
Still only two picks in the top 60, which is disappointing.

Maybe a couple more can be acquired before draft day after the playoffs are over.

Yep, I'm expecting more moves around then.

I mean really at this point can the Leafs go in to next season with Lupul, Bozak, Phanuef and Kessel on this team?

I can't see it.

Of those four, I think Phaneuf and Kessel need to go before next season. They both symbolize what's wrong with the current Leafs, while still having potential value for other teams. Phaneuf does seem to care and is a good but overpaid and miscast defenseman. Kessel has tons of talent but his attitude seems to have slipped. Both will be too old when the rebuild is complete.

Bozak and Lupul aren't part of the future either, but I think their importance and the urgency of moving them is secondary.

Nonis has done well in ridding the Leafs of the Clarkson albatross, but if he's to make a case for himself being Leaf GM through the rebuild, he needs to prove it by getting maximum value for those two players.

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2015, 06:18:43 PM »
By adding a Brewer and a Horton, I can't help but think the plan is to recreate the defense corps from the 1964-65 Maple Leafs team.
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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2015, 06:39:03 PM »
Eric Brewer? The greatest Oiler defencemen of all time? He finally fulfills his destiny and comes home to the leafs... I remember every rumour from around 99-03 had the LEafs landing him somehow for the famous Antropov, Colaiacovo and a pick...

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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 5th
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2015, 06:51:40 PM »
Still only two picks in the top 60, which is disappointing.

Maybe a couple more can be acquired before draft day after the playoffs are over.

Yep, I'm expecting more moves around then.

I mean really at this point can the Leafs go in to next season with Lupul, Bozak, Phanuef and Kessel on this team?

I can't see it.

Of those four, I think Phaneuf and Kessel need to go before next season. They both symbolize what's wrong with the current Leafs, while still having potential value for other teams. Phaneuf does seem to care and is a good but overpaid and miscast defenseman. Kessel has tons of talent but his attitude seems to have slipped. Both will be too old when the rebuild is complete.

Bozak and Lupul aren't part of the future either, but I think their importance and the urgency of moving them is secondary.

Nonis has done well in ridding the Leafs of the Clarkson albatross, but if he's to make a case for himself being Leaf GM through the rebuild, he needs to prove it by getting maximum value for those two players.

You can make the case nonis or burke are good with trades; but neither was good at drafted.  That is what has f'd up the leafs.  The only picks that have made the team are the first rounders.  And some of those have been bombs too.  Other organizations have got more quality players in the draft that past few years.  Leafs need better draft to improve out of a basement dwelling team.
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Re: Toronto trades Holzer to Anaheim for Brewer and a 2016 5th
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2015, 06:55:40 PM »
Brewer, Horton.. If Paul Coffey wasn't retired I'd think this team was working on a strange marketing plan with Tim Hortons.

At least then we could roll up the rim to win. As it is I am concussed and awaiting to be traded to someplace out west for little to no return.