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Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays Thread
« Reply #1125 on: January 23, 2014, 04:06:37 PM »
I'd be okay with Jimenez or Santana really.

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« Reply #1126 on: January 23, 2014, 04:23:35 PM »
Santana intrigues me.  He has an AL pitching track record.  He's pretty much a lock to give you 200 IP which is crucial to keep a fantastic bullpen energized down the stretch.  His numbers in terms of ground ball percentage are pretty solid among the AL pitchers, which bodes well with an infield of Lawrie-Reyes-Goins.

He's probably more of a #3 starter than anything else, but I think the Jays could really use another reliable arm.

I don't disagree with any of your analysis specifically but I really question whether any of the available FA pitchers are difference makers to the degree the Blue Jays need. I really think that if the Jays are going to make up any ground here it has to come from guys like Drabek or Hutchinson taking major leaps forward, even if that's not all that likely, so I still think my preference is going to be to give those guys every chance to make the rotation.

edit: Also, I agree that Santana would be my choice of the remaining FA pitchers but I also sort of think he's the guy who will get a contract that will raise a few eyebrows. I can't help but think that one of the Tanaka runner-ups will make a big run.
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Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays Thread
« Reply #1127 on: January 23, 2014, 06:13:27 PM »
Santana intrigues me.  He has an AL pitching track record.  He's pretty much a lock to give you 200 IP which is crucial to keep a fantastic bullpen energized down the stretch.  His numbers in terms of ground ball percentage are pretty solid among the AL pitchers, which bodes well with an infield of Lawrie-Reyes-Goins.

He's probably more of a #3 starter than anything else, but I think the Jays could really use another reliable arm.

I don't disagree with any of your analysis specifically but I really question whether any of the available FA pitchers are difference makers to the degree the Blue Jays need. I really think that if the Jays are going to make up any ground here it has to come from guys like Drabek or Hutchinson taking major leaps forward, even if that's not all that likely, so I still think my preference is going to be to give those guys every chance to make the rotation.

edit: Also, I agree that Santana would be my choice of the remaining FA pitchers but I also sort of think he's the guy who will get a contract that will raise a few eyebrows. I can't help but think that one of the Tanaka runner-ups will make a big run.
So... Santana to the Jays then?

Drabek scares the life out of me. I don't think he'll ever be a big league starter, but I agree that there's no real point in throwing a lot of money at a guy who just isn't worth it.
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Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays Thread
« Reply #1128 on: January 24, 2014, 10:08:28 AM »
...there's no real point in throwing a lot of money at a guy who just isn't worth it.
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I agree with what everyone is saying, but by the GM's own admission the clock is ticking on the potential competitiveness of this team.  Bautista has two years left, Edwin is underpaid for three more years, Reyes will be 31 and will likely be very effective for at least a few more yerars, Dickie is approaching 40 and Buerhle is not far behind.  There is a 3-4 year window to win.  So you go with Hutchinson or Drabek, and they struggle in April and May, and suddenly the team is below 500 in an ultra competitive American League East before summer arrives. 

Look, overpaying for Santana is not only an inevitability, it's also a financial risk.  But I think, all things considered, they need to bring in some reliable pitching to give this team a chance to succeed, almost regardless of $$ cost.

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Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays Thread
« Reply #1128 on: January 24, 2014, 10:08:28 AM »