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« Reply #240 on: January 03, 2013, 04:05:35 PM »
So I haven't watched any of the games....  How did Rielly play?

I haven't seen a player with that much speed heading into the offensive zone in awhile. The problem was he was surrounded by 4 opposing players when he got there.

He didn't do anything impressive on the defensive side of the play that I saw which is probably why his minutes where cut.

Yeah but the rest of them weren't any better at all! He was one of the better +/- players heading into the game. I thought Murphy was beyond garbage defensively in comparison and Hamilton looked beyond ordinary.

No argument here.  I think there's a lot of questions for Mr. Spott and his coaching decisions.

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« Reply #241 on: January 03, 2013, 04:07:17 PM »
For me it's less about the fact that he didn't really do anything than it is the fact that Jones and, to a lesser extent, Drouin did look good.

He certainly hasn't looked like the type of player he has been hyped up to be. There was a point where people seemed to touting him as a generational talent type.

IMO anyone doing that with McKinnon was mistaken before, during and after this tournament. 

Connor MacDavid is likely one of those, but McKinnon is probably somewhere between John Tavares and Tyler Seguin in terms of potential and recent draftees... mid-sized centre with PPG potential and may be a "star" player but generational talent? Likely not.

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« Reply #242 on: January 03, 2013, 04:16:55 PM »
So I haven't watched any of the games....  How did Rielly play?

I haven't seen a player with that much speed heading into the offensive zone in awhile. The problem was he was surrounded by 4 opposing players when he got there.

He didn't do anything impressive on the defensive side of the play that I saw which is probably why his minutes where cut.

Are you saying he's just an amped-up version of Tomas Kaberle?  ;)

No, not quite. It seems Rielly shoots first and asks questions later.

Maybe more of a Paul Coffey.  ;)

I know you guys aren't doing this but I wouldn't judge Rielly based on that WJC. He wasn't the same player and I think a big part of that was him being told to keep it far too simple, nor was he utilized nearly as much as he could have been.  Skating into 4 defenders is not his thing. He's a much smarter player than that. 

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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #243 on: January 03, 2013, 04:39:51 PM »
I know you guys aren't doing this but I wouldn't judge Rielly based on that WJC. He wasn't the same player and I think a big part of that was him being told to keep it far too simple, nor was he utilized nearly as much as he could have been.  Skating into 4 defenders is not his thing. He's a much smarter player than that.

No, He'll have Kessel up there with him.

Good observation though. I have seen where instead of a wrister he'd take it to the net instead.

Not sure if he felt the need to be more conservative in the WJC or if he has the green light with the Warriors.

I thought he's had a good tournament overall.

Speaking of smart, I've seen a few great passes that's he's made to teammates that they just weren't ready for because they were that good it surprised them -- if that makes sense. He's got some good vision out there.
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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #244 on: January 04, 2013, 03:35:55 AM »
Bob McKenzie tells it like it is...

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=412699

In other words, Team Canada wilted when it counted the most.  (sigh)


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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #245 on: January 04, 2013, 03:42:49 AM »
Bronze medal game: Canada/Russia  Sat. @3.30am ET
(At least, we have another chance to salvage something out of this year's tournament).

Gold medal game:
    USA/Sweden      Sat. @8.00am ET

Check the TSN website for repeat broadcast times.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 03:48:09 AM by hockeyfan1 »

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« Reply #246 on: January 04, 2013, 10:16:27 AM »
And now Reinhart suspended 4 games. Wonderful. When was the last time we had so many suspensions in one tourney??

http://m.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/1310469--world-juniors-canadian-griffin-reinhart-suspended-four-games-for-slash
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« Reply #247 on: January 04, 2013, 10:22:38 AM »
Spott is also going with Binnington now. Cheap shot to Subban IMO. He went with him all tourney and now he turns his back on him. May be the right move but it doesn't sit well with me.
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« Reply #248 on: January 04, 2013, 11:10:29 AM »
Spott is also going with Binnington now. Cheap shot to Subban IMO. He went with him all tourney and now he turns his back on him. May be the right move but it doesn't sit well with me.

I wasn't impressed with Subban since the start, his attitude/ego reminds me of his brother and is no way to act. His tugging in the jersey after he stopped the penalty shot late in the third (against Russia I think) and staring down the player was unsportsmanlike and uncalled for.

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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #249 on: January 04, 2013, 11:19:07 AM »
Spott is also going with Binnington now. Cheap shot to Subban IMO. He went with him all tourney and now he turns his back on him. May be the right move but it doesn't sit well with me.

I wasn't impressed with Subban since the start, his attitude/ego reminds me of his brother and is no way to act. His tugging in the jersey after he stopped the penalty shot late in the third (against Russia I think) and staring down the player was unsportsmanlike and uncalled for.

To be fair, the tugging the jersey thing seemed pretty popular with Team Canada guys.
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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #250 on: January 04, 2013, 01:43:42 PM »
it is, you're right. Saw it from Strome, N-H, Scheifele and Rattie too.

But Subban was getting on my last nerve with his little shrug of the shoulders after each goal scored against him.....like it was someone else's fault.

I get the metaphor, but it seemed like more to me every time he did it.

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« Reply #251 on: January 04, 2013, 03:12:29 PM »
Yea that's true, I understand doing it with a big goal or save maybe, but when it's 5-1, it's a little much, probably irked me more because of Subbans attitude before it.

Hopefully Canada can capture bronze and Sweden with old!

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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #252 on: January 04, 2013, 04:39:12 PM »
Yea that's true, I understand doing it with a big goal or save maybe, but when it's 5-1, it's a little much, probably irked me more because of Subbans attitude before it.

Hopefully Canada can capture bronze and Sweden with old!

Attitude is only an issue now that they lost. To me "swagger" is irrelevant, you just need to win.

The only issue is the headshake when a goal was scored, not being a team player. Maybe thats partially why he's yanked for the Bronze game.
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Re: World Junior Hockey Championships (WJHC 2013)
« Reply #253 on: January 04, 2013, 04:45:01 PM »
Spott is also going with Binnington now. Cheap shot to Subban IMO. He went with him all tourney and now he turns his back on him. May be the right move but it doesn't sit well with me.

Binnington outplayed Subban in the camp as well as the pre tournament games, and should have been the starter. Subban should feel lucky he was given the reins.

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« Reply #254 on: January 04, 2013, 06:02:00 PM »
Spott is also going with Binnington now. Cheap shot to Subban IMO. He went with him all tourney and now he turns his back on him. May be the right move but it doesn't sit well with me.

Binnington outplayed Subban in the camp as well as the pre tournament games, and should have been the starter. Subban should feel lucky he was given the reins.

Can't disagree with that, but honestly my gut instinct tells me it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome which one was in net.