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« Reply #840 on: March 28, 2019, 09:41:47 AM »
...Jays are covering $10M and get international bonus money in return + Jesus (nobody) Lopez

Probably clearing at-bats for Vlad.

Also, clearing up the DH spot to be able to rotate in guys like Hernandez, Smoak, etc., I imagine. The team will be paying ~$50M this season for guys to play elsewhere, but, that's part of the stripping down process.
Props to Jays management for not letting money get in the way of development.
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« Reply #841 on: March 28, 2019, 11:23:54 AM »
...Jays are covering $10M and get international bonus money in return + Jesus (nobody) Lopez

Probably clearing at-bats for Vlad.

Also, clearing up the DH spot to be able to rotate in guys like Hernandez, Smoak, etc., I imagine. The team will be paying ~$50M this season for guys to play elsewhere, but, that's part of the stripping down process.
Props to Jays management for not letting money get in the way of development.

I agree. Get the younger guys at-bats and experience. See what you have.

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« Reply #842 on: March 28, 2019, 12:04:31 PM »
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« Reply #843 on: March 28, 2019, 12:46:49 PM »
The team will be paying ~$50M this season for guys to play elsewhere, but, that's part of the stripping down process.

I still don't get why that's such a sticking point for some people. The Martin and Tulo deals were deals that anyone could have seen were going to look ugly near their end and when AA took them on it was discussed at the time.
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« Reply #844 on: March 28, 2019, 01:26:24 PM »
The team will be paying ~$50M this season for guys to play elsewhere, but, that's part of the stripping down process.

I still don't get why that's such a sticking point for some people. The Martin and Tulo deals were deals that anyone could have seen were going to look ugly near their end and when AA took them on it was discussed at the time.

Yeah. It's not like baseball has a cap or the Jays are going come anywhere near the luxury tax threshold before those contracts expire. They were never going to spend that money elsewhere, the guys they moved/let go weren't likely to improve their trade value with Toronto, and their roster spots/playing time is better used on players the team hopes to develop into longer term pieces. Some people just don't like the idea of money being spent on nothing - even when it's not their money.
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« Reply #845 on: March 28, 2019, 01:27:16 PM »
Looks like Rowdy Tellez is the first beneficiary of Morales being dealt. Showed some pop in a brief audition last season.
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« Reply #846 on: March 28, 2019, 01:33:46 PM »
The team will be paying ~$50M this season for guys to play elsewhere, but, that's part of the stripping down process.

I still don't get why that's such a sticking point for some people. The Martin and Tulo deals were deals that anyone could have seen were going to look ugly near their end and when AA took them on it was discussed at the time.

Yeah. It's not like baseball has a cap or the Jays are going come anywhere near the luxury tax threshold before those contracts expire. They were never going to spend that money elsewhere, the guys they moved/let go weren't likely to improve their trade value with Toronto, and their roster spots/playing time is better used on players the team hopes to develop into longer term pieces. Some people just don't like the idea of money being spent on nothing - even when it's not their money.

I also think they believe that the money is being given to players no longer on the team as opposed to giving it to players that could help the team but I don't think that's the case either.

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« Reply #847 on: March 28, 2019, 01:37:20 PM »
After the Morales trade, combined with the international money the Jays got from the Dwight Smith jr trade, the Jays have $1.5m to use on signing an international player which could return a very useful player. Jays spent just under $4m to get Vlad jr.

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« Reply #848 on: March 28, 2019, 01:37:53 PM »
...Jays are covering $10M and get international bonus money in return + Jesus (nobody) Lopez

Probably clearing at-bats for Vlad.

It's flexibility for Vlad to play DH if Drury is any good this year.  It's also a way to get Hernandez at bats if his defense in LF continues to be a tire fire.  It also lets Tellez get at bats until Vlad comes up at least.

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« Reply #849 on: March 28, 2019, 01:39:02 PM »
I also think they believe that the money is being given to players no longer on the team as opposed to giving it to players that could help the team but I don't think that's the case either.

Maybe. I mean, unless they could have convinced another team to take on the full salary, the Jays were going to be paying these guys, regardless. Basically, that money was never going to be available to give to the guys they want to keep around long-term. Tulo, Martin, and Morales either got it from the Jays as a Jay, or from the Jays (indirectly, in the cases of Martin and Morales - their cheques will come from their new clubs, but those teams got the money to cover most of those cheques from the Jays) while on another team.
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« Reply #850 on: March 28, 2019, 01:51:43 PM »

I get the optics of it aren't good,I get why it's a funny line to say but it's not like "The Jays are paying 50 million to guys on other teams" is better than "The guys are paying 50 million to guys contributing no value to the team" which is almost certainly what would happen if those guys stuck around.
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« Reply #851 on: April 02, 2019, 02:52:37 PM »
Anthony Alford gets the call to replace the traded Kevin Pillar in the outfield.

It was one of the ways for the Jays to get Alford in the lineup.

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Toronto...wanted to clear the way for outfield prospect Anthony Alford to ascend to the Majors in center field.

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« Reply #852 on: April 03, 2019, 02:50:10 AM »
Jays make minor league trade for Socrates Brito from the Padres.


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« Reply #853 on: April 03, 2019, 11:11:03 AM »
Jays make minor league trade for Socrates Brito from the Padres.

Socrates is a great moniker
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« Reply #854 on: April 20, 2019, 07:41:11 AM »
Get ready for the Vlad show...


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