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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: Yesterday at 11:35:50 PM »
Worrying that an old person might injure themselves in a fall comes from the same place as a racist wanting to kill for fun.... ok, I guess we're done here.

It's the same line of thinking, taken to the extreme. "Old people should be treated differently" is similar to "black people should be treated differently" except one has positive and one has negative connotations. Can you guess which one? I'm the only one saying everyone should be treated the same.

If you don't want to get stung by a jellyfish, maybe stay out of the water? The old man wanted to act like a young man and got treated as such. That's equality. Did they have to shove him? Probably not. But the shove itself isn't inherently wrong, unless you're assigning special value to the person being shoved. I'm not.

"Don't kill black people" sounds great but it's the wrong message.


You're saying he's acting like a young man for exercising 1A? Really? That's the road you want to go down? That's the analogy you want to make? Maybe if he didn't want to get pushed he shouldn't have been peacefully exercising his right to assembly.

I'm sorry but people need to calibrate their actions depending on who is involved, unless you think that former cop gripping that little girl's arm should have the equivalent impact of doing that to Andre the Giant.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: Yesterday at 03:19:30 PM »

Just when you thought it couldn't be possible to sink any lower or be any more shameless, he does it. Absolutely despicable.
Trump is a meathead. 

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2019-2020 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 03:18:23 PM »

Now find where Mike Johnson is and make them the duo for Leafs games.

Meh, he's not terrible, but I always think his style is a bit milquetoast. As an example, the "golden goal" call was pretty weak, for a home country broadcast. Some of the other calls around the world were way better (and fun)
I'm not going to rag on Cuthbert for a split second of commentating. He's so much better than most alternatives we have right now.

I mean you're looking for excitement Bowen's your man but I can see why people think he's almost too into it.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 02:13:24 PM »
Didn't really know where to put this, but Sean Day was released by the Rangers.

He sounds like a Dubas & co. project in the waiting.

Could be worth an AHL contract and invite to camp. Might be a case where he needs the right coach/staff/etc. to help him put things together.
He actually doesn't because by all accounts he doesn't think the game very well. The old million dollar body/ 10 cent brain scenario doesn't bode well.

10 cent brain  ;D

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2019-2020 NHL Thread
« on: Yesterday at 01:04:25 PM »

Now find where Mike Johnson is and make them the duo for Leafs games.
I'm kinda sad seeing exits at TSN but what can you do?

General NHL News & Views / Re: Official Ottawa Senators Thread
« on: Yesterday at 11:10:27 AM »
I mean I guess it's good it wasn't because of the original speculated reasons... but damn Melynk skimming "hundreds of thousands of dollars annually" from the charity by charging rent is pretty messed up.

Throw him in jail. This kind of behaviour should not be tolerated.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Nick Robertson signed to 3 yr ELC
« on: Yesterday at 08:14:20 AM »

This kind of surprises me.  I guess I had just incorrectly assumed that Robertson had a bit of a ratty edge in him because of how tenacious he is on the ice.
Yeah for sure. I read an article in the Athletic where he says to him this is business, so maybe he doesn't take things personally and get upset etc and just plays his game. Also maybe he deserved an award for his season but couldn't give him something more substantial [emoji14]

General NHL News & Views / Re: NHL’s 24-team Return to Play proposal
« on: June 04, 2020, 05:12:52 PM »

Less than an hour after this the Penguins announced one of their players tested positive for COVID.

I'm betting this will end up costing more money than just scrapping the season.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 03, 2020, 01:27:55 PM »

Here's the Milwaukee Police trying to claim someone threw a "molotov cocktail" at them.

That's a water bottle and a portable water filter gadget.

I think I've seen enough of this. I mean honestly this is so enraging. The cops have already arrested 11,000 people. 11,000! I have a hard time believing 11,000 people truly needed to be arrested. And how many times have we already seen that police purposely have turned off their body cams? There is so much rot here and they are emboldened by a president who is a fascist thug.

The writing was on the wall so many times before. I can't believe there wasn't more unrest for this either, and now the US is paying the price. I'll be happy to not step foot in the States again until there's some level of reconciliation.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:25:58 PM »

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 09:51:28 PM »
I was thinking the other day that although it's for the wrong reasons, the insurrection act might actually be a better option than putting the police forces in front of these demonstrations. The police is the familiar symbol of oppression, and every example of overpolicing in these protests furthers and fuels the divide.

The armed forces are probably a much better representation of middle america instead of 200K a year police officers wielding military equipment that they shouldn't have. It's hard to accept the symbol of the military in the streets, but done creatively, without weapons of war, standing with the protesters instead of in a line ahead of them, with an emphasis on de-escalation instead of confrontation, I think it could be a better option that what we've seen.

Regardless, the whole response has been shameful, and although this by no means started with Trump, I firmly believe his endorsement and normalizing of discrimination and casual racism has destroyed the progress made over the last 8 years prior. Biden has been more visible and a better leader on this crisis than the sitting president. I hope that affects the polls, even if the fracture in the country won't be bridged in a single term, or even 5.
You and I both know the middle chunk of your thought is not going to happen.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 01:44:21 PM »
Or we could call it "Lives Matter".   

Just a few thoughts, when I moved to the Caribbean 30 years ago, I noticed two things. Why did the Locals never sit on their porches or balconies, and why the overall mistreatment of dogs?  I asked one of my Local friends about this and he candidly told me that when they arrived as slaves, the only time they felt safe was when they were in their own shacks. There they could be free of the slaveowners eye and have camaraderie with their fellow slaves and families. In the case of dogs, they were used to control the slaves. The Blacks of the day were basically fearless of guns, but not dogs, so dogs became the control mechanism.
I say all this as we see that customs set up from the late 1600's are still part of the practices and habits of our present world.  Racism roots run very deep and we cannot expect a magic wand to wash the repercussions of Slavery away. In the islands there was a concerted effort to teach Local people about Dogs and how they should be treated and the value of them as companions. I can actually say over 30 years I have seen a quantum shift regarding the treatment of dogs in the islands. Great.   Racism, not so easy.
I remember as a young boy, going to Florida and seeing the rifles in the back windows of pick up trucks, the racism factor was so thick you could cut the atmosphere with a knife.  In the 70's I was in a bar with Dad when some rednecks came in and after a few drinks where into lines like "Hey Orville, have you every shot a N__gger"?  Orville responds, "No, but I sure would like too".  They laughed so hard they were falling off their bar stools.  I grabbed my Dad and quickly vacated the dive he had chosen.

Yet years later the stench of racism seems like it is finally gradually lifting. At a snails pace but it is lifting.

I feel for the peaceful protesters who are out to try and jump start true equality and respect.
It's really too bad that the movement has been totally highjacked by looters and arsonists. 
It also to bad the U.S does not have a present day Martin Luther King to preach peace and tolerance to try and help his people. They need a leader like India needed Gandhi in his day.
I fear that Trump will have to move in the military with shoot to kill orders and then we may see the real race war that has been boiling for centuries.   I certainly hope not.

I think generally most people who are speaking out loud aren't condoning violence. But it's almost like police attacking people, having them lose eyes, tear gas thrown, and police cars running people over... you might be stoking some violence. If the President is descending into thuggery and dictatorial rule... you might be stoking some violence.

And I do think most people are protesting peacefully, and I think looting of stores are just crimes of opportunity by people who aren't part of the protests, but if the people have been pushed this far to a point where some level of violence is the only thing that gets the attention of those in power then maybe they brought it upon themselves. It's how America was founded in the first place for crying out loud. I'm sure the British were saying "Well, it'd be fine if you protested in the way we approve of (which is not protesting) but did you really need to destroy all that tea??"

I fear that Trump will have to move in the military with shoot to kill orders and then we may see the real race war that has been boiling for centuries.

He doesn't have to do that. That's a choice that he will have made because his mind is so bereft of the capability of making good decisions; decisions and actions that de-escalate tensions, not stoke them.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:49:58 AM »
All Lives Matter.

I too like to go to Funerals and say, sure you are mourning but lots of other people are mourning other dead people too.

Very true, although to me it's even worse than that because the all lives matter tag I feel is really disingenuous even in that sense. It's like a young person getting killed as an innocent and going to their funeral and saying to the family you should also mourn my grandmother who died peacefully at 93 a few years ago.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2020 NHL Draft
« on: June 02, 2020, 08:25:13 AM »
Not many stars in the bunch, sure, but 16 guys who played 400+ games in the NHL. That's not exactly just a bunch of fringe players - those are legit NHL players. 8 players drafted in the 5th round or later played 250+ games, which is an excellent return on late round picks.

The lack of high level talent is disappointing, yeah, but the Leafs still produced a solid number of guys that had legit NHL careers.
That we promptly traded away [emoji23] (I will never get over the Steen trade).

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