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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: July 19, 2019, 12:30:38 PM »
Ignoring the ones that are already in the NHL, there are intriguing names for sure, but mostly question marks to ever hit the big time. I'm intrigued by Scott, Hollowell, Duszak & Brazeau.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: William Nylander
« on: July 18, 2019, 09:25:28 AM »

I admit, I do not follow "Leafs Twitter" as a whole but all that article really cited were a bunch of people who used the number change to take a shot at Nylander for his bad year, only one guy mentioned Lindros or even the idea that taking his number was disrespectful.

Every time there's a "________ Twitter reacts to this news" article to show that people are outraged about something the only tweets that they present are from people with less than 100 followers. Like what's the point in sharing what @CrustyoldVet (2 followers) thinks about Nylander's number?

It’s just a further example of the erosion and dumbing down of the media to have someone search meaningless twitter and turn it into a “news” item. Very lazy way to get clicks too by creating faux outrage.
Once media went subscription based to ad/click based it was all over. Back to yellow press era journalism. It's partially our own fault being unwilling to spring some money for journalism and expecting everything on the internet be free.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: July 16, 2019, 09:14:43 PM »
My opinion of it is still based entirely on the original promos that aired during HNIC and the fact that it's produced by the CBC but I refuse to believe that Schitt's Creek is even remotely good. I don't care how many people tell me otherwise I'm standing my ground here.

I actually enjoy Schitt's Creek a lot and I was vehemently against it. Catherine O'Hara is freaking fantastic.
Agree. Fantastic show. Eugene Levy and his son are brilliant and so is O'Hara. I think this show is a lot like Corner Gas in a way that it's a love it or hate it kind of deal. To each their own.
After Life by Ricky Gervais on Netflicks....brilliant. And if you have the time, watch Derek, another show by Gervais.
Great show, the character Twyla is also a Levy. Not only is it a good show but it's actually somewhat wholesome. It breaks down wealth barriers between classes and normalizes sexual preferences.
Agree. I knew that about Twyla also. Pretty cool. Enjoyed Levy's work since the SCTV days. His son is so much like him.
Except a bit more fabulous hahaha

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: July 16, 2019, 01:03:21 PM »
My opinion of it is still based entirely on the original promos that aired during HNIC and the fact that it's produced by the CBC but I refuse to believe that Schitt's Creek is even remotely good. I don't care how many people tell me otherwise I'm standing my ground here.

I actually enjoy Schitt's Creek a lot and I was vehemently against it. Catherine O'Hara is freaking fantastic.

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I'm not a pearl clutching traditionalist but I do sort of agree in general with Campbell. For most of the season the cup has a dedicated handler who has to wear white gloves while touching it but then on players days it's "Fill it up with poop and dog food, whatever" which doesn't particularly bother me but it is a little weird.

I mean the whole white glove thing seems to be more for show than anything else. And it's so steeped in tradition the guy can't just stop using them. The Cup can obviously withstand a beating I'm sure fingerprints aren't an issue.

The Cup's been through a lot though, I mean it has that whole history of being left on the side of the road for god sakes lol. How many babies have taken a poop inside it?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/791267-stanley-cup-16-craziest-things-ever-done-with-the-stanley-cup#slide4


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Celebratory Bonfire
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In 1962, the Toronto Maple Leafs were on top of the hockey world.

During the celebratory bonfire, the club mistakenly used the Stanley Cup as fire wood, dropping the hardware into the fire. The Leafs had to pay for the significant damage done to the Cup in the process.

Omg I'm dying.

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That’s kind of cute.

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 11, 2019, 03:32:30 PM »
I'm not saying a reasonable agent would sign a contract, I think that they'd be easier to work with. It could be a front, but I don't know if I'd want to work with an agent that pulls a bunch of crap in negotiations that ultimately just make things worse for all parties.

If they're not any more willing to meet on contract terms I don't see how they're all that easier to work with. Beyond that, you seem to be confusing the fact that you don't like what you think Marner's reps are doing with what effect they're likely to have on Dubas and company(and, likewise, you probably have to show your math on anything "making things worse" for all parties).

All Dubas is likely to care about is the numbers he has to work with. So long as none of these big deal RFAs are signed, I think it's premature to say who is "easier" to work with just based on what information filters down to us.

Sure but conjecture is fun and all that  ;)

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 10, 2019, 08:25:44 PM »
That and there are so many options out there with players who might even take less. How many out there are saying they're worth AM34 money? Why would a team deal with such a headache of an agent who's delusional and unwilling to negotiate in good faith? I'd rather sniff out Point or Rantanen before Marner.

If those guys and their agents are so reasonable, how come they haven't signed either?
I'm not saying a reasonable agent would sign a contract, I think that they'd be easier to work with. It could be a front, but I don't know if I'd want to work with an agent that pulls a bunch of crap in negotiations that ultimately just make things worse for all parties.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 10, 2019, 06:14:23 PM »
Does anyone here still believe an offer sheet for Marner is still imminent ?

I took at a look at the cap situations for teams around the league, and there really isn't a good fit for an imminent offer sheet. Teams either don't have the space, have prominent RFAs to sign that will take up the space, or are likely to be bottom 5 teams next season and possibly beyond. Unless we see some cap clearing moves start to happen, I'm not worried about one happening.
That and there are so many options out there with players who might even take less. How many out there are saying they're worth AM34 money? Why would a team deal with such a headache of an agent who's delusional and unwilling to negotiate in good faith? I'd rather sniff out Point or Rantanen before Marner.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Tyson Barrie
« on: July 10, 2019, 11:57:40 AM »
Among the guys you listed as draft successes, here's the age they were when they first stuck in the NHL:

Keith: 22
Parayko: 22
Holtby:  23
Letang: 20
Quick: 22
Murray: 21

Did you have all of those guys pegged as future all-stars by the age of 20?  Because Sandin is 19 and Liljegren is 20.

This is a fair point but it's also a reflection of the reality of how this team was built. If the team had slow rolled things, really torn it down in the rebuild and accumulated as many assets as possible before trying to win games then not only would they be likely to have slightly better top end prospects than Sandin and Liljegren but they'd also probably just have more defensive prospects who represent shots at landing that particular high impact player.

Not doing that does put a ton of pressure on Sandin and Liljegren to be those guys. So did using a bunch of other picks on forwards and not defensemen(the Korshkov pick, the Bracco/Dzierkals picks) and so on.

That may not be fair to Sandin or Liljegren but I do think that given the nature of the team and when contracts are going to be expiring that having those impacts quicker rather than later is probably going to be needed.

Don't you draft BPA and not position? If one of your forwards turn out you should be able to turn that into a d-man that's more of a sure bet.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: Official Ottawa Senators Thread
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:55:21 PM »
IMPORTANT QUESTION: When will we win Stanley again?

My niece during this past years playoffs said "I don't see the Leafs winning this year but I think they'll win in 2020" so there it is.  I suspect she's partially psychic so I'm going with that.

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with this lol

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Leafs Media Rumours / Re: College free agents
« on: July 09, 2019, 01:13:06 PM »
The guys who just came from college will not be able to play well in the big leagues. :P

There's lots of guys who come out of college and have decent careers. Look at Tyler Bozak.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Tyson Barrie
« on: July 08, 2019, 01:01:46 PM »
My cap concerns with Barrie aren't about next season, but more projecting further down the line. When Tavares happened I always said that being top-heavy cap wise isn't the end of the world, but throwing in two $8mil+ defencemen on top of all those forwards might just be pushing it. Then again, we'd still have 2 seasons of Mo at $5mil after that summer and that's 2 seasons where we should be pushing hard for the Cup. So maybe it'd be a risk but certainly one worth looking at.

At some point they'll shift the core around. Mirtle brought up a good point that he feels like at some point they have to roll their expiring contracts or they'll start running out of assets. I wonder if they just don't care and lock up who they want and just back fill with under utilized, low cap hit talent.

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: NBA Off-Season Discussion
« on: July 08, 2019, 09:17:31 AM »

Since he's no longer a Raptor I'm not invested in Kawhi's on-court success anymore but I think to come away from his time here with "screw you" is pretty hard to justify.

The Raptors, and their fans, knehttp://tmlfans.ca/community/Smileys/default/grin.gifw when trading for him that he wanted to go back to LA. We knew that the team was probably sacrificing a couple of years of being a very good team built around the Lowry/DeRozan combo in exchange for one year of a real shot at the title. All of us went into this with our eyes open.

So, realistically, what could Kawhi have done differently in his one year here to earn some respect? Play hard? He did. Win a title? He did. Be honest about his intentions? He was. Give the team fair consideration in the off-season? By all accounts he did.

I don't think there's a Raptors fan alive who wouldn't have agreed to a deal where the Lowry/DeRozan years would end in a title but then immediately kick into a rebuild. That happened. Kawhi was a huge part of that. Again, nobody has to cheer him on but I'd put pretty big money on him getting an ovation when the Clippers come to town.

I feel jilted whenever a star player leaves Toronto.  Mats...CuJo...Carter...Bosh...Halladay -- I said the same about all of them.  Let alone one who just won a championship and had the team do everything right for him.

That's why I have no problem with the way Islanders fans act towards Tavares (provided of course it doesn't cross the personal line).

You felt the same about Mats as you did about Cujo? Really? The circumstances couldn't have been more different.

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This was always one of my favourite Cody Ceci gifs but I hate it now thanks.

The biggest question is who was the player that covered for him and blindly shot the puck to the middle of the ice. That's the big give away on that play.

And I've watched it a couple times now. He had nothing. His teammates basically painted him into a corner. Why is everyone just watching?

Playing for the Senators has to be like playing with a lead apron on. It's plausible.
Let's hope so.
Why can't he just skate it back to his own zone with possession?

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