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Congratulations to the Blues...50 year’s in the making! 

Tyler Bozak, Toronto Maple Leaf fans are happy for you!

Sorry, Boston Marchand, but karma isn’t cute.

You know he has a cup ring right ?
Couldn't tell from his post game comments. That's for sure. They took his dreams!

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« on: June 08, 2019, 09:32:04 AM »
Been seeing rumours of Kovalchuk coming to Toronto for Marleau. On the surface it makes little sense since they're both paid 6.25 a year, but what if the Kings retain 3 million. With the Leafs paying a chunk of Marleau's salary on July 1st, the money would even out, not totally, and the cap hit would be 9 next year 3 the year after for the Kings and 3 for the Leafs in both years. Kovalchuk could be decent playing with a guy like Marner.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 04, 2019, 12:04:49 AM »
Been thinking of the worst case scenario and I guess it's an offer sheet of 4 years at 10.5. The compensation is not four firsts but it's the max dollar value without reaching four firsts territory, and Marner is a UFA when the contract is up.

The Leafs would have to match exactly I suppose? I guess the optimistic view is a team wouldn't offer that because they'd expect the Leafs to match?

The deal would be five years max at that AAV or else the compensation would be up to the 4 first rounders (e.g. six year deal at $9.5M is $57M/5 = 11.4M for compensation purposes). I can't imagine any GM thinking he's worth $10.5M on a five year deal. He's a hell of a player, that's for sure, and he's going to get a tonne of cash, but he's not going to be the highest paid winger in the league.

I could be wrong of course.

Ah yes, the total divided by 5 or term, whatever is less. So that would be a four firsts situation. That's better.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 03, 2019, 06:32:27 PM »
Been thinking of the worst case scenario and I guess it's an offer sheet of 4 years at 10.5. The compensation is not four firsts but it's the max dollar value without reaching four firsts territory, and Marner is a UFA when the contract is up.

The Leafs would have to match exactly I suppose? I guess the optimistic view is a team wouldn't offer that because they'd expect the Leafs to match?
Leafs would probably match a 10.5 offer. Now if the Leafs were offering 9.75 or 10, would Marner sign it? I think the offer is going to have to blow him away to get him to sign. He's not signing one for 500k more. Don't see it happening.

Maybe, but if it was also a year shorter so he's gets to UFA quicker it's worth more than 500k suddenly.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 03, 2019, 06:12:41 PM »
Been thinking of the worst case scenario and I guess it's an offer sheet of 4 years at 10.5. The compensation is not four firsts but it's the max dollar value without reaching four firsts territory, and Marner is a UFA when the contract is up.

The Leafs would have to match exactly I suppose? I guess the optimistic view is a team wouldn't offer that because they'd expect the Leafs to match?

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Leafs Media Rumours / Re: Zaitsev trade ideas
« on: May 31, 2019, 10:25:33 AM »
I suppose the willingness to trade Zaitsev means Dubas intends on keeping Marleau around next year. I always felt one of these guys needed to go to be able to re-sign Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen. If that's the intention, he'll probably go for picks or prospects in an effort to save all his cap space.

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Welcome back Marner, and a bunch of minimum wage defensemen!

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Unsigned Draft Picks
« on: May 30, 2019, 12:56:39 PM »
Now we have that sweetener for the Marleau trade. 

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:45:37 PM »
This info is all from Dreger, so I wouldn't get too worked up about it just yet.

I will say this, though: if Marner leaves you and I and every other Leafs fan will spend the rest of our lives hearing a certain segment of the base complain along the lines of "I can't believe they kept Nylander and let Marner go!"  It may be worth it to overpay Mitch just to avoid that annoyance.

Ya this is all 'Dreger expects' not even 'Dreger heard'.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« on: May 27, 2019, 09:00:59 PM »
Ok... so I understand that this might be a stupid question... but there's something I don't get in regards to the idea that beer might be cheaper if it goes to convenience stores. We know that the major breweries (Molson-Coors, Labatt, Sleeman) own The Beer Store. Almost, if not all, of the most popular beers in Canada are produced by those 3, correct? So the convenience stores and what not have to purchase the beers from those 3 breweries to re-sell, correct? What's stopping those breweries from setting their wholesale price at a point where private stores can't set their retail price low enough to undercut the prices at the Beer Store/LCBO?

In theory nothing, although I think there are laws against price fixing. The argument would be that someone, whether it's one of those three or someone else, would see an opportunity in the market to undercut their prices and corner the cheapest possible beer market.

Which seems more likely. If you go to the States, beers from the bigger companies aren't the cheapest beers you can find. There's always going to be someone selling rot gut and no label trash beer for next to nothing.

Currently, and this may change, the LCBO requires a single price for a package of beer. You can't get a six pack of Bud at one price in one place and then a different price in another place. If it's ten bucks for a six pack of Bud, that's the only price you'll see. So whatever the cost is at your corner store, it will be the same cost at the Beer Store.

Also, if you like craft beer, you'll get less of it in convenience stores, or at least they will be more expensive. Yes the LCBO and grocery stores have craft beers, so presumably, will convenience stores, although fewer options, but you can't buy them at 24 prices, which are cheaper.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« on: May 27, 2019, 01:56:34 PM »
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.

It's not really for that reason, boys.

It's got more to do with the fact that the breweries own the Beer Store, and that pricing isn't very competitive given this.  The result should be more competitive pricing, due to real competition for the LCBO and The Beer Store.

The Beer Store doesn't control the pricing, but they do charge the breweries packaging fees. So to sell a 6pack, it costs x, to sell a 6 and a 12 pack, it costs 2x. Eliminating that cost may reduce prices. My concern is am I going to be able to get the same selection? Or will it eventually be hard to find something that's not Bud, or Blue, or Export...

Also, why are we still paying a deposit on cans? What's the difference between a beer can and a pop can?

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Ontario Election 2018
« on: May 27, 2019, 01:47:51 PM »
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.

I suppose it will help the guy that's looking for a 6-pack of Bud on a busy Wednesday evening and is too tired to drive all the way into town.

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https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-intrigue-around-nhl-draft-starting-take-shape/

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3. Another Toronto assistant, Jim Hiller, has blanket permission to interview with anyone, and is not expected back. Nashville is believed to be among the interested teams. Makes sense as Hiller has a reputation for power-play expertise. Former Florida coach Bob Boughner is a possibility as an Edmonton assistant. There are lots of rumours about Andrew Brunette next to Joel Quenneville in Florida, and there’re also rumblings of movement alongside Jeff Blashill in Detroit.

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4. Odd quirk in Patrick Marleau’s contract: his signing bonus is paid in two instalments, one in July, one in December. Remember, he controls his future, but that adds a wrinkle to any potential move.

That should end any talk that the contract was designed to be moved in the 3rd year. Looks like its the opposite and Marleau wanted it this way to ensure he controlled his final year.

I'm amazed that I have never heard of this wrinkle before... all the more pressure to move Zaitsev.
All this move Marleau talk is complete jiberish. I have not heard a single convincing argument that would suggest it's even possible. It's not happening.
Never say never, attach a good prospect/draft pick to take him on and it may happen.
No, it won't, he has a no-movement clause.
Said it before. Leafs have to approach Marleau and tell him in no uncertain terms based on this year, his iron man streak will end next season. Load management will be in place for him. He may also find himself on the 4th line playing 4th line minutes. If he's good with that then all is good and he won't be moved. If he has an issue with it then he'll want out.

Or even tell him he'll be sitting if he stays with the Leafs playing sitting minutes. I doubt they would go that far, but you never know. There is a way out, it's just that Marleau holds all the cards. Doesn't mean he won't play them, especially if his seat is on fire.

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https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-intrigue-around-nhl-draft-starting-take-shape/

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3. Another Toronto assistant, Jim Hiller, has blanket permission to interview with anyone, and is not expected back. Nashville is believed to be among the interested teams. Makes sense as Hiller has a reputation for power-play expertise. Former Florida coach Bob Boughner is a possibility as an Edmonton assistant. There are lots of rumours about Andrew Brunette next to Joel Quenneville in Florida, and there’re also rumblings of movement alongside Jeff Blashill in Detroit.

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4. Odd quirk in Patrick Marleau’s contract: his signing bonus is paid in two instalments, one in July, one in December. Remember, he controls his future, but that adds a wrinkle to any potential move.

That should end any talk that the contract was designed to be moved in the 3rd year. Looks like its the opposite and Marleau wanted it this way to ensure he controlled his final year.

I'm amazed that I have never heard of this wrinkle before... all the more pressure to move Zaitsev.
All this move Marleau talk is complete jiberish. I have not heard a single convincing argument that would suggest it's even possible. It's not happening.

While unlikely I agree, it is possible. It only requires a trade partner and Marleau agreeing to waive his no-trade.

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The fact that there is a one month delay is inconsequential. If it's a reoccurring issue, that would be something unfortunate.

Sure but you could literally say that about any injury.

The reoccurring part you mean. That's true.

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