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Title: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 15, 2014, 12:00:29 PM
Didn't see a thread for something like this - if I missed it, please merge.

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@jonasTSN1050 

Per @markhmasters, David Booth's timeline for return is looking closer to six week prognosis, perhaps longer.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on October 15, 2014, 12:04:50 PM

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@jonasTSN1050 

Per @markhmasters, David Booth's timeline for return is looking closer to six week prognosis, perhaps longer.

Timing it to coincide with Kontiola's return, to create a speedy 4th line of Booth / Improved-Skating-Action Kontiola / Kozun
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
Good thread, I was just thinking of it. We have been pretty lucky so far with only one guy on the Injury list. Great we have a depth we have not had for sometime.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Leafs71 on October 15, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Timing it to coincide with Kontiola's return, to create a speedy 4th line of Booth / Improved-Skating-Action Kontiola / Kozun

It's an embarrassment of borderline 4th line riches!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on October 16, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
we have a plethora of choices….LOL
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Frank E on October 16, 2014, 10:54:14 AM
I guess this was kind of inevitable:

Paul Hendrick‏@HennyTweets·5 mins5 minutes ago
Joffrey Lupul is not skating at practice. Details to follow after. #TMLtalk

Of course, it could be nothing...
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 16, 2014, 11:06:14 AM
I guess this was kind of inevitable:

Paul Hendrick‏@HennyTweets·5 mins5 minutes ago
Joffrey Lupul is not skating at practice. Details to follow after. #TMLtalk

Of course, it could be nothing...

I'd be more concerned if today was a game day.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 16, 2014, 11:13:13 AM
Me from after the Colorado game:

That was the most physical I've seen Lupul play in a very long time. I was afraid his body was going to break.

*sigh*
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Boston Leaf on October 16, 2014, 11:34:54 AM
well did they not skate yesterday? I thought I heard Randy say day off? So if so wouldn't that be a sort of maintenance day? I like Lupul but he jsut cant stay healthy (of course I jump to conclusions)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on October 16, 2014, 11:53:37 AM

In fairness given Lupul's injury history there may be an inclination to being more protective of him than another player. Considering what the Leafs have gone through with injuries in recent years where one or two games off blossoms into 3 or 4 weeks then I'm all for resting someone like Lupul even for precautionary reasons.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on October 16, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
mirtle: Carlyle says Lupul has lower body injury he tweaked in last game. Unknown how long he's out.

jonasTSN1050: Carlyle says Lupul has a lower-body issue, but it's his right leg. Was stretching it out constantly in middle of Tuesday's game.

Sounds like it could be something he can play through, but, this early in the season, sitting him out for a couple games might not be the worst idea.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 16, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
mirtle: Carlyle says Lupul has lower body injury he tweaked in last game. Unknown how long he's out.

jonasTSN1050: Carlyle says Lupul has a lower-body issue, but it's his right leg. Was stretching it out constantly in middle of Tuesday's game.

Sounds like it could be something he can play through, but, this early in the season, sitting him out for a couple games might not be the worst idea.

lets hope it is nothing serious. he has played well the last couple of games
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 16, 2014, 03:23:55 PM
 :'(   :'(    :'(
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on October 16, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Hopefully Matty will be given a chance now.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: caveman on October 16, 2014, 07:18:28 PM
the return of Orr ??
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: sneakyray on October 16, 2014, 07:20:09 PM
is leivo still hurt...cause he played well in the preseason.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Deebo on October 16, 2014, 07:21:04 PM
Hopefully Matty will be given a chance now.

Hopefully Lupul is okay.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 17, 2014, 09:08:10 AM
Any thing on Lupul. Yet!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on October 17, 2014, 10:27:40 AM
He's taking part in the morning skate right now.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 17, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
He's taking part in the morning skate right now.

that may be a good sign,
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 17, 2014, 10:48:08 AM
He's taking part in the morning skate right now.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/mccabebabe/smileys/hearts.gif)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 17, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
He's taking part in the morning skate right now.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/mccabebabe/smileys/hearts.gif)

And it looks like he is playing tonight
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 18, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
Anything on Kozun today.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on October 18, 2014, 10:31:25 AM
From what it looked like in slow mo his ankle turned to a very unnatural position, hope it is not a break, but even if it was a severe strain, he will be out for at least 2 months.  I am not a Doctor but do play one on TV
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on October 20, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
Not to far off, may be out for up to 2 months. To bad, great penalty killer
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on October 20, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Well lets hope that is all it is. I did mine in 2011, and it still bothers me.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 12, 2014, 07:57:50 AM
Quick injury update:

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Paul Hendrick @HennyTweets  ·  20h 20 hours ago
Daniel Winnik says he's good to go. No expected return imminently for Booth and Lupul is at least a week away from joining team. #TMLtalk

Booth's injury is keeping him out longer than expected. He was supposed to miss 4-6 weeks and he just past the 6 week mark.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 09:59:10 AM
markhmasters: Kozun (ankle) joins Booth, Lupul on ice skating before Leafs practice; 1st time I've seen Brandon out there since injury (Oct. 17)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 12, 2014, 10:26:15 AM
Excellent news. I hope they are all back soon.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 12, 2014, 10:32:40 AM
markhmasters: Kozun (ankle) joins Booth, Lupul on ice skating before Leafs practice; 1st time I've seen Brandon out there since injury (Oct. 17)

I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.

I don't think he sticks, either. Honestly, I never really saw much in him to start with. He had a good camp, but, once the real games started, he seemed out of place.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 12, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.

I don't think he sticks, either. Honestly, I never really saw much in him to start with. He had a good camp, but, once the real games started, he seemed out of place.

You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 12, 2014, 10:55:56 AM
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

well so are Ashton and Frattin.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: L K on November 12, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

And his big attribute was his speed on the PK.  Bozak is there for his face off ability.  Holland has shown he can be adept there too.  Komarov is likely our best PKer and between Santorelli, Booth, JVR, even Kadri there really isn't a need for him.

He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 12, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

Teams in general need to do a better job evaluating talent during preseason. Legit NHL players use preseason to get up to speed and prepare for the regular season. AHL players have to act like it's the playoffs because they know it might be their only shot at the NHL. It's easy for guys like Kozun and Carrick to look good just by giving 110% during games where most players are only giving 50-70%.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 11:15:04 AM
well so are Ashton and Frattin.

Maybe - though, I feel like Ashton showed a lot more usefulness as a bottom 6 player in his few games this season than Kozun did - but, he's not competing against them for a spot in the lineup. All 3 of them are on the outside, looking in when everyone is healthy.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on November 12, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

Teams in general need to do a better job evaluating talent during preseason. Legit NHL players use preseason to get up to speed and prepare for the regular season. AHL players have to act like it's the playoffs because they known it might be their only shot at the NHL. It's easy for guys like Kozun and Carrick to look good just by giving 110% during games where most players are only giving 50-70%.

Happens every year with 1 or 2 players.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on November 12, 2014, 11:43:30 AM
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

And his big attribute was his speed on the PK.  Bozak is there for his face off ability.  Holland has shown he can be adept there too.  Komarov is likely our best PKer and between Santorelli, Booth, JVR, even Kadri there really isn't a need for him.

He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

But Kozun doesn't have to be better than JVR and Kadri.  If everybody's healthy, we have:

JVR - Boz - Phil
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Winnik
Booth - Santorelli - ???

That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 12, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
JVR - Boz - Phil
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Winnik
Booth - Santorelli - ???

That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

In my perfect world we would keep Smith up and leave Holland at 3C and Santorelli on the wing. That would be 12 forwards. In your situation (which is a lot more likely) yeah Panik probably has that last forward spot secured. I'd put Leivo and probably even Bodie ahead of Kozun on the depth chart as well.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on November 12, 2014, 11:58:20 AM
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.

Dang... I guess I have a soft spot for crazy fast players.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 12, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

I'd say there's a pretty solid gap between Panik and Kozun - especially for that kind of role.

Dang... I guess I have a soft spot for crazy fast players.

I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: L K on November 12, 2014, 01:13:37 PM
Kozun played in 5 games.  He had 1 assist and was a -4.  Yes he had speed but how that stat line suggests anything other than a guy who was working his butt off and wasn't getting the job done is beyond me.

I don't think anyone argues that Winnik is a 2nd line player but put in the role he has produced some offense.  He is certainly not a long-term option on that line but Kozun isn't either.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 12, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
Kozun played in 5 games.  He had 1 assist and was a -4.  Yes he had speed but how that stat line suggests anything other than a guy who was working his butt off and wasn't getting the job done is beyond me.

I don't think anyone argues that Winnik is a 2nd line player but put in the role he has produced some offense.  He is certainly not a long-term option on that line but Kozun isn't either.

Everyone that line were not playing well, I think Kadri had a total of two point in his first 7 games this year. So I dont think that is a sign of how Kozun could of played.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 12, 2014, 01:22:02 PM
Everyone that line were not playing well, I think Kadri had a total of two point in his first 7 games this year. So I dont think that is a sign of how Kozun could of played.

Perhaps Kadri's low point totals were because he was playing with an AHLer. Kozun really doesn't have any NHL qualities besides speed, and that's not enough.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2014, 02:09:06 PM
In this age of moving to complete specialization Kozun was excellent on the penalty kill. Perhaps he finds a role there.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 12, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
In this age of moving to complete specialization Kozun was excellent on the penalty kill. Perhaps he finds a role there.

The Leafs' PK has been just fine without him, and the whole specialization thing is massively overstated. Good teams don't have players in their lineup that can't be effective at even strength or can't be used for ~10 minutes a night. Specialization has a lot more to do with ES roles rather than being sheltered for special team use.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Tigger on November 12, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.

I'd be inclined to give him a few more games, that injury is going to hold him up in the lineup though so it might take a while, although, Booth looks like he's milking it...
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 13, 2014, 08:26:09 AM
I don't think you put Kozun on the fourth line, I thought he was doing well for the first couple of games with Lups and Kadri.  IMO I dont see Winnik as a second line player

Kozun was only ever a part-time piece on that line, because he's not good enough to hang with them full-time. He really didn't do well there. He kept up with them in terms of foot speed, but not in any other areas. He's not good enough to be a top 6 forward in the NHL, and he doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 type. He's simply not an NHL calibre guy.

I'd be inclined to give him a few more games, that injury is going to hold him up in the lineup though so it might take a while, although, Booth looks like he's milking it...

I am quite happy with the unit that is rolling right now. Let the injured folk take their time.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on November 13, 2014, 09:04:25 AM
Yes you don't want to tinker with the chemisty it appears this group is manifesting
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 21, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
jonasTSN1050: Carlyle confirms that Lupul won't play this weekend. Likely to be back next Weds.

jonasTSN1050: David Booth expected to play two games with Marlies this weekend before rejoining Leafs.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on November 23, 2014, 09:03:01 AM
Any updates on Polak and Nylander
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Kessel Run on November 23, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
I haven't seen anything on either, but with Polak not putting any weight on his ankle at all my guess is that it's weeks for sure.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on November 23, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Ya if its  broken out for months, sprained at least 6 weeks.  Will give one of the young guns a chance it would seem.  Loov or Granberg (supposedly Percy has been not playing all that well with the Marlies)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Stickytape on November 23, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Carlyle said that Polak will be "out for a while".  I'm sure we'll know more after an MRI.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 23, 2014, 03:37:27 PM
Polak is such a smooth skater, I sure hope this doesn't hurt his mobility.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 24, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 24, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.

Tough time to lose him too with a very difficult December coming up.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on November 24, 2014, 01:44:02 PM
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.

Tough time to lose him too with a very difficult December coming up.

On the bright side the Leafs are replacing him with a former top pairing defenseman in Holzer.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on November 24, 2014, 04:54:59 PM
jonasTSN1050: Initial prognosis on Polak is four weeks. He has a strain in his left knee.

jonasTSN1050: Leafs are waiting on definitive timeline for Polak. Still waiting to see what degree of strain.

Tough time to lose him too with a very difficult December coming up.

On the bright side the Leafs are replacing him with a former top pairing defenseman in Holzer.

 ;D
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on November 25, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
jonasTSN1050: Joffrey Lupul confirms that he will return from injury tomorrow in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on November 25, 2014, 01:10:51 PM
jonasTSN1050: Joffrey Lupul confirms that he will return from injury tomorrow in Pittsburgh.

Excellent
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 02, 2014, 01:30:12 PM
As first reported by freer in the GDT, Komrade Komarov is now officially konkussed:

Toronto Maple Leafs forward Leo Komarov will not play against the Dallas Stars on Tuesday night as he continues to recover from a concussion that he suffered over the weekend.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 05, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
Any news on Polak coming back. He is dearly needed.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 05, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  2m2 minutes ago
Carlyle says it wasn't a setback for Komarov. Says he wasn't feeling well enough and was kept off the ice.

He was well enough to skate before but wasn't now. Sounds like a setback to me. Either way, it's doubtful he plays tomorrow night.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 05, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  2m2 minutes ago
Carlyle says it wasn't a setback for Komarov. Says he wasn't feeling well enough and was kept off the ice.

He was well enough to skate before but wasn't now. Sounds like a setback to me. Either way, it's doubtful he plays tomorrow night.
Darn was hoping he would put  Burrow through the boards.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on December 05, 2014, 01:39:27 PM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  2m2 minutes ago
Carlyle says it wasn't a setback for Komarov. Says he wasn't feeling well enough and was kept off the ice.

He was well enough to skate before but wasn't now. Sounds like a setback to me. Either way, it's doubtful he plays tomorrow night.

Nope. He's just feeling worse than he did yesterday. It's not backwards progress at all. Nothing to see here. ;D
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on December 05, 2014, 05:42:03 PM
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Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: L K on December 05, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  2m2 minutes ago
Carlyle says it wasn't a setback for Komarov. Says he wasn't feeling well enough and was kept off the ice.

He was well enough to skate before but wasn't now. Sounds like a setback to me. Either way, it's doubtful he plays tomorrow night.

The lying and secrecy regarding concussions annoys me.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on December 06, 2014, 01:19:12 AM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  2m2 minutes ago
Carlyle says it wasn't a setback for Komarov. Says he wasn't feeling well enough and was kept off the ice.

He was well enough to skate before but wasn't now. Sounds like a setback to me. Either way, it's doubtful he plays tomorrow night.

The lying and secrecy regarding concussions annoys me.

Doesn't really matter to me tbh as long as they get proper care.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 06, 2014, 11:54:11 AM
Get well soon Komrade, we miss the big K on this ice.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 08, 2014, 08:22:53 AM
When a player is on IR, how long does he need to be out.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: herman on December 08, 2014, 02:24:01 PM
When a player is on IR, how long does he need to be out.

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From NHL.com
Injured Reserve List
In the event that a player is injured and a Club wishes to place him on the Injured Reserve List the Club must follow these procedures:
A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club's initial physical examination in that season.
A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minumum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club's Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club's medical staff and in accordance with the Club's medical standards.
A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
Players on Injured Reserve may attend Club meetings and meals, travel with the Club and participate in practice sessions.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 08, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
When a player is on IR, how long does he need to be out.

Quote
From NHL.com
Injured Reserve List
In the event that a player is injured and a Club wishes to place him on the Injured Reserve List the Club must follow these procedures:
A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club's initial physical examination in that season.
A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minumum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club's Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club's medical staff and in accordance with the Club's medical standards.
A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
Players on Injured Reserve may attend Club meetings and meals, travel with the Club and participate in practice sessions.

Thanks very much
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 08, 2014, 09:42:42 PM
A not-so-encouraging update on Komarov:

Quote
In a phone interview on Monday, Komarov’s agent said the Toronto Maple Leafs forward is still suffering from headaches that have been present ever since he was blindsided with an elbow to the head from Alex Ovechkin on Nov. 29. For that reason, he should never have been on the ice to begin with.

“You have to trust your instincts. If you feel something is wrong, then something is wrong,” Komarov’s agent, Mark Gandler, said. “In my mind, he shouldn’t have practised. He shouldn’t have been on the ice that day.”

...

Days later, Komarov passed his baseline test and other concussion protocol. When the Leafs held him out of the lineup, it was merely described as a precaution. But behind the scenes, Gandler said something was not right.

Though Komarov was technically cleared to skate — he had exerted himself on a bike earlier that morning without any issue, according to the team — symptoms had not completely gone away. After the skate last Thursday, Komarov reported to a Leafs trainer that he experienced concussion-type symptoms and his injury was officially listed as a concussion.

Since then, the team said on Monday that he has been told not to work out, ride the bike or exert himself.

“I told Leo, you must report if you have a headache. You must not go on the ice,” said Gandler, who said the Leafs did not pressure Komarov to return. “They cannot see. You have to tell them. And he said ‘I have a headache.’ There’s no problem here with Toronto. Where’s there’s a problem is with these tests, which are completely useless.”

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/12/08/toronto-maple-leafs-leo-komarov-still-experiencing-headaches-after-hard-hit-from-alex-ovechkin/
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 09, 2014, 11:29:31 AM
This is the pitts, we need the Komrade back but only when he is well enough, they continue to win without him so get him well for the playoffs when we need his assets.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on December 17, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
dalter: Roman Polak, among players taking part in Leafs practice today. Eligible to return to the lineup tomorrow should they choose to use him.

jonasTSN1050: Now 17 days since Leo Komarov suffered a concussion. He is not practicing again today.

jonasTSN1050: Actually, 19 days since the concussion. My mistake. Point is, no return in sight yet for Komarov. He'll miss his 9th straight game tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on December 17, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
It's been 19 days since that? Wow.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 17, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
It's been 19 days since that? Wow.

Time flies eh. I couldn't believe that Ashton only has 1 game left on his suspension.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 17, 2014, 04:50:31 PM
anyone know if Kozun cleared
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on December 17, 2014, 05:05:47 PM
anyone know if Kozun cleared

He was only placed on waivers today. Whether or not he clears won't be announced until noon tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 17, 2014, 06:16:17 PM
Okidoki, thanks.  With the depth the Leafs have, he may not be back (this year). I would think to make room for Komrade when he is OK, Smith will come back and many on this site think Carrick would be called up again if there is injury
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 19, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: Twitter
Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  13 minutes ago
Leo Komarov has been skating on his own in recent days and is making good progress in concussion recovery. He's increasing workload now.

He also skated today for about 20 minutes with the Leafs strength coach before the Leafs practice. So he's making some progress there.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 19, 2014, 12:59:49 PM
Great news on the Komrade. We need him back in the lineup.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 19, 2014, 04:18:14 PM
Great news on the Komrade. We need him back in the lineup.

Yes one huge hit last evening could of help the team get some energy.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: L K on December 21, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
22 days and 11 games and counting without Komarov.  I'm sure glad that Ovechkin apologized to him after the game. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 21, 2014, 01:56:58 PM
22 days and 11 games and counting without Komarov.  I'm sure glad that Ovechkin apologized to him after the game.

Hey, the NHL is serious about head injuries, don't you know.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 22, 2014, 08:06:41 AM
From Jonas Siegel:

Quote from: http://www.tsn.ca/seasoned-blackhawks-show-envious-leafs-how-it-s-done-1.165696
It's very likely that Leo Komarov doesn't play again for the Leafs until 2015.

Komarov, who's missed the past 11 games with a concussion, has been skating recently and steadily improving. But the 27-year-old continues to experience symptoms related to the concussion, according to a source, even if those symptoms are not quite as severe as those in the initial aftermath of the injury.

And while he has taken to the ice briefly with the team's strength coach in recent days, Komarov still has yet to practice with the team, has yet to go through any substantial drills, and will miss the final game before the Christmas break in Dallas.

The Leafs will have five games in seven days when they return from the holidays with the possibility of one, maybe two practices in that span. He'll need more than that to return given the precarious nature of the injury and length of time missed. And that's assuming those symptoms disappear – they haven't yet – which is obviously far from a guarantee.

The likely timeline for Komarov's return, according to the source, is January – perhaps as late as the middle of the month. Leafs general manager Dave Nonis did not respond to a request for comment on the matter.

Komarov was among the better Leafs through the first two months this season. He had 16 points in 23 games.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Arn on December 22, 2014, 08:41:35 AM
It's OK. Ovechkin said sorry.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: herman on December 22, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
It's OK. Ovechkin said sorry.

Words are wind.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Stickytape on December 22, 2014, 10:46:21 AM
Losing Komarov feels a lot like it did to lose Bolland last year: Fan favourite, got off to a great start in the season, and then boom, out with an injury that just doesn't seem to want to go away.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 22, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
Agreed, Komrade is needed more know then ever. Hope the next month finds him getting much better.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 22, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
We need him in the next 4 games or so. If not we may be right out of the playoff picture.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on December 22, 2014, 12:23:04 PM
We need him in the next 4 games or so. If not we may be right out of the playoff picture.

He won't be. He's not expected back until mid-January. Also, you're really overstating his impact. With him or without him, there's a very good chance the Leafs will be on the outside, looking in shortly after New Year's.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on December 22, 2014, 12:54:26 PM
We need him in the next 4 games or so. If not we may be right out of the playoff picture.

He won't be. He's not expected back until mid-January. Also, you're really overstating his impact. With him or without him, there's a very good chance the Leafs will be on the outside, looking in shortly after New Year's.

If we dont win 2 out of the next for we are going to have a hard time making it. I know it is only early, but other then last nights game we have played awful for a while.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 30, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
Gibson was returned to the Marlies, so Bernier should be good to go for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 01, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: Twitter
Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby  3 hours ago
Injured Joffrey Lupul won't be back in Toronto until this aft., so an MRI and subsequent results might not be known until tonight or Friday.

He left the arena on crutches last night, so it doesn't look good for him.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 01, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Quote from: Twitter
Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby  3 hours ago
Injured Joffrey Lupul won't be back in Toronto until this aft., so an MRI and subsequent results might not be known until tonight or Friday.

He left the arena on crutches last night, so it doesn't look good for him.

I like Lups but it is time to trade him. The hit did not look bad at all.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 01, 2015, 04:57:42 PM
Lupul's going on IR: http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12108258/joffrey-lupul-toronto-maple-leafs-placed-ir
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: TML fan on January 01, 2015, 06:09:29 PM
His absence will be felt by no one.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 01, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
jonasTSN1050: Holland suffered the upper body issue during last night's game. Determined afterward that he would need an MRI.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 01, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
His absence will be felt by no one.

He had 14 points in his last 17 games, I'm sure it will be felt to some degree.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 01, 2015, 07:11:57 PM
Lupul is regarded as a very good player, but a bit of a glass guy unfortunately. Maybe time to trade him soon if he is not that badly injured.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: RedLeaf on January 01, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
Lupul is regarded as a very good player, but a bit of a glass guy unfortunately. Maybe time to trade him soon if he is not that badly injured.

Considering his age and his proness to injury, his value may be too low to even consider moving him.  Is his value, in its limited form, worth a 3rd or 4th rounder, destined to play for the Marlies for the next 2-3 years or longer? I'd rather keep him if those are the types of offers up for consideration.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: lamajama on January 01, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
His absence will be felt by no one.

Uh.... LittleHockeyFan? Shoulder check..... ;)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: moon111 on January 01, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
I think Lupul over-works his muscles and doesn't give them enough rest.  You hear drunks or people sleeping having less injuries then people who see the accident coming and tighten all up. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 01, 2015, 09:28:47 PM
Lupul is regarded as a very good player, but a bit of a glass guy unfortunately. Maybe time to trade him soon if he is not that badly injured.

Anyone think Lupul for Perron has any chance of happening?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 02, 2015, 06:49:50 AM
Lupul is regarded as a very good player, but a bit of a glass guy unfortunately. Maybe time to trade him soon if he is not that badly injured.

Anyone think Lupul for Perron has any chance of happening?

Why would Edm to that. His cap hit is 2 mil less, and 5 years younger. I would not mind one bit.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 02, 2015, 09:56:56 AM
Hey Moon, perhaps Lupes should play with a few beers in him
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Boston Leaf on January 02, 2015, 10:29:25 AM
problem is with trying to trade Lupul is the injuries are not hidden. Every team realizes his ability to play well but also get hurt numerous times.. some players are just cursed.. he is definitely one
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 02, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
His absence will be felt by no one.

mirtle: Leafs even strength points leaders in December: Lupul 12, Kadri 10, JVR 10, Santorelli 10, Kessel 8, Holland 7. So they'll miss Lupul.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 02, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
Lupul is regarded as a very good player, but a bit of a glass guy unfortunately. Maybe time to trade him soon if he is not that badly injured.

Anyone think Lupul for Perron has any chance of happening?

Why would Edm to that. His cap hit is 2 mil less, and 5 years younger. I would not mind one bit.

Not sure. Perron was rumoured to be on the block after some comments he made.

He's had a disappointing start to his career in EDM. Maybe that's not enough to move him (probably not).

Lupul has more of a track record of producing although he obviously has injury concerns.

Lupul's contract drops in the last year, Perron's creeps up in 14-15 and 15-16.

The difference in cap hits is under 1.5M.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on January 02, 2015, 11:49:33 AM
I think Lupul over-works his muscles and doesn't give them enough rest.  You hear drunks or people sleeping having less injuries then people who see the accident coming and tighten all up.

You're right, you hear it all the time but it's complete bunk. 

I think if Lupul gets moved it will be at the trade deadline to someone in need of scoring.  He really is a good player and it's a shame he can't stay healthy.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 02, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
The biggest motivation for trading Lupul is freeing cap space, and, the focus is on Lupul because, of the Leafs' big contracts, he's one that teams might be willing to take on, is among the older players on the team and has become more of a secondary piece than a core piece. So, even if the return isn't huge, moving him could very well be the best move for the team's future. That being said, this year's UFA crop is pretty middling, and the cap could increase enough for it not to be a necessity this summer. That will really depend on what other moves the team may have lined up.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on January 02, 2015, 11:59:37 AM
The biggest motivation for trading Lupul is freeing cap space, and, the focus is on Lupul because, of the Leafs' big contracts, he's one that teams might be willing to take on, is among the older players on the team and has become more of a secondary piece than a core piece. So, even if the return isn't huge, moving him could very well be the best move for the team's future. That being said, this year's UFA crop is pretty middling, and the cap could increase enough for it not to be a necessity this summer. That will really depend on what other moves the team may have lined up.

I agree with the cap space, and wonder if moving him would free up some $$ to resign Franson.  I'm also curious about Panik's ceiling, and whether he could eventually replace Lupul.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 02, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
I agree with the cap space, and wonder if moving him would free up some $$ to resign Franson.  I'm also curious about Panik's ceiling, and whether he could eventually replace Lupul.

Maybe, but, at the same time, I'm not convinced committing big money and term to Franson is a smart move, either. I'm also not convinced he'll still be a Leaf after the trade deadline, but, that really depends on the team's record. If the Leafs are on the outside, looking in, Franson will be one of the most appealing trade candidates in the league.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: L K on January 02, 2015, 12:49:08 PM
The biggest motivation for trading Lupul is freeing cap space, and, the focus is on Lupul because, of the Leafs' big contracts, he's one that teams might be willing to take on, is among the older players on the team and has become more of a secondary piece than a core piece. So, even if the return isn't huge, moving him could very well be the best move for the team's future. That being said, this year's UFA crop is pretty middling, and the cap could increase enough for it not to be a necessity this summer. That will really depend on what other moves the team may have lined up.

I agree with the cap space, and wonder if moving him would free up some $$ to resign Franson.  I'm also curious about Panik's ceiling, and whether he could eventually replace Lupul.

Panik as a bottom 6 surprise waiver pickup is doing well, but his stats are completely a wolf in sheep clothing right now.  7G 1A.  When you have that much of a disparity in scoring stats, it usually isn't something reproducible in the long-run.  He also has a completely unsustainable 26.9% shooting percentage.

Panik has some nice hands that have led to his goals, and I'm sure that with more ice-time and better linemates that he would produce a little more, but he's not anything near a replacement for Lupul at this point.  I would certainly look at Panik playing a more prominent role on the 3rd line with Komarov and Holland when everyone is healthy however.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Leafs71 on January 02, 2015, 12:50:34 PM
I'm also curious about Panik's ceiling, and whether he could eventually replace Lupul.

Ditto. He shares some attributes, apart from chronic IRitis.

I see Lupul as on only still being on the roster because (a) they can't move him without taking back salary, or (b) management is still delusional on what they consider assets are moving forward.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Boston Leaf on January 02, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
so why is Kadri hurt? Is it concussion?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 02, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
so why is Kadri hurt? Is it concussion?

No real information yet. All we know is this:

jonasTSN1050: Leafs don't have results yet on Lupul and Holland. Kadri to have assessment done this afternoon. Questionable for tonight.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: TML fan on January 02, 2015, 09:52:09 PM
His absence will be felt by no one.

mirtle: Leafs even strength points leaders in December: Lupul 12, Kadri 10, JVR 10, Santorelli 10, Kessel 8, Holland 7. So they'll miss Lupul.

You and Potvin don't need to jump on hockeydb every time someone chirps the Leafs... Unless they're paying you for it?

I've just gotten used to him not being in the lineup. It was a joke. Chill out.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 02, 2015, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: Twitter
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  1 minute ago
Lupul out 4 weeks. Kadri 7-10 days. Holland week to week.

Well, Randy's gonna have to figure out what to do with the line-up. Can't keep repeating tonight's usage.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 03, 2015, 12:08:48 AM
Quote from: Twitter
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  1 minute ago
Lupul out 4 weeks. Kadri 7-10 days. Holland week to week.

Well, Randy's gonna have to figure out what to do with the line-up. Can't keep repeating tonight's usage.

Says you. The Randy defies your logic!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 03, 2015, 12:58:50 AM

His absence will be felt by no one.

mirtle: Leafs even strength points leaders in December: Lupul 12, Kadri 10, JVR 10, Santorelli 10, Kessel 8, Holland 7. So they'll miss Lupul.

You and Potvin don't need to jump on hockeydb every time someone chirps the Leafs... Unless they're paying you for it?

I've just gotten used to him not being in the lineup. It was a joke. Chill out.

How is presenting stats not being "chill"?  Sounds like you're the one who needs to calm down.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on January 03, 2015, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Twitter
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  1 minute ago
Lupul out 4 weeks. Kadri 7-10 days. Holland week to week.

Well, Randy's gonna have to figure out what to do with the line-up. Can't keep repeating tonight's usage.

18-wheeler?

cliff?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Leafs71 on January 03, 2015, 10:03:15 AM
Quote from: Twitter
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  1 minute ago
Lupul out 4 weeks. Kadri 7-10 days. Holland week to week.

Well, Randy's gonna have to figure out what to do with the line-up. Can't keep repeating tonight's usage.

18-wheeler?

cliff?

Is fletcher still on the payroll?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 03, 2015, 10:22:51 AM
We may be screwed here.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on January 03, 2015, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: Twitter
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  1 minute ago
Lupul out 4 weeks. Kadri 7-10 days. Holland week to week.

Well, Randy's gonna have to figure out what to do with the line-up. Can't keep repeating tonight's usage.

18-wheeler?

cliff?

Is fletcher still on the payroll?

He's the Chief 18-Wheeler Driver.  If you listen closely you can hear him gassing it up right now.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 03, 2015, 11:48:47 AM
Remember a guy called "The Amazing Randi".  our Randy pulls losses out of his hat
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 03, 2015, 12:53:24 PM

His absence will be felt by no one.

mirtle: Leafs even strength points leaders in December: Lupul 12, Kadri 10, JVR 10, Santorelli 10, Kessel 8, Holland 7. So they'll miss Lupul.

You and Potvin don't need to jump on hockeydb every time someone chirps the Leafs... Unless they're paying you for it?

I've just gotten used to him not being in the lineup. It was a joke. Chill out.

How is presenting stats not being "chill"?  Sounds like you're the one who needs to calm down.

Also, posting what someone else tweeted is hardly jumping on hockeydb. Hating on facts is so 2001, any way.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Boston Leaf on January 03, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
how is jvr? is he gonna be okay?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 08, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
Injury update:

Quote
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  4 minutes ago
Peter Horachek says Roman Polak should be fine to play tomorrow. Peter Holland though won't join team on upcoming road trip.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 13, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
Injury update:

Quote
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  4 minutes ago
Peter Horachek says Roman Polak should be fine to play tomorrow. Peter Holland though won't join team on upcoming road trip.

Anything on Lupul's return or Komorav being out any extended period of time?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 13, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
Anything on Lupul's return or Komorav being out any extended period of time?

http://google.com
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 14, 2015, 07:55:02 AM
Anything on Lupul's return or Komorav being out any extended period of time?

http://google.com

Thank you, that is hilarious.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on January 14, 2015, 09:43:21 AM
So, what did Google say? I also want to know about their injury status.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Andy on January 14, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
Google directed me to Ice Chips, which stated that Komarov could be available for today. 

For Lupul, google directed me to Rotoworld, which had Lupul on the IR and out for four weeks, dated January 2.

So expect lupul back at the end of Jan, early Feb and Komarov on a game by game basis. Thanks Google!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: pmrules on January 14, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
So, what did Google say? I also want to know about their injury status.

I think I broke google when I typed in Joffrey Lupul injury.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 15, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
So, what did Google say? I also want to know about their injury status.

I think I broke google when I typed in Joffrey Lupul injury.


Does anyone think a suspension will come out of the hit to Booth last night?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: applecheeks on January 15, 2015, 02:02:54 PM
There just has to be some kind of suspension. Totally deliberate. Hope it's a quick recovery.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 15, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
There just has to be some kind of suspension. Totally deliberate. Hope it's a quick recovery.

Just read in another tread it was only a fine.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: applecheeks on January 15, 2015, 02:10:27 PM
There just has to be some kind of suspension. Totally deliberate. Hope it's a quick recovery.

Just read in another tread it was only a fine.

thnx freer.  Brutal.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 15, 2015, 04:08:19 PM
Booth:

Quote
@dalter 

Good news bad news for David Booth. #Leafs announce he has a fractured nose and his availability for tonight still being assessed. #TMLtalk
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 15, 2015, 04:38:00 PM
Booth:

Quote
@dalter 

Good news bad news for David Booth. #Leafs announce he has a fractured nose and his availability for tonight still being assessed. #TMLtalk

Maybe this will "get him going"  :-\
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 19, 2015, 11:31:11 AM
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@mirtle

Horachek sys Robidas has been dealing with an injury for two months. Upper body injury. They're going to rest him now.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 19, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Good idea, he can help in the playoffs ;)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 19, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
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@mirtle

Horachek sys Robidas has been dealing with an injury for two months. Upper body injury. They're going to rest him now.

Does Pronger need any help in the NHL front office?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 19, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
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@mirtle

Horachek sys Robidas has been dealing with an injury for two months. Upper body injury. They're going to rest him now.

In all seriousness though, what the heck was a 37-year old defenceman doing playing injured for 2 and a half months?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 19, 2015, 04:11:42 PM
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@mirtle

Horachek sys Robidas has been dealing with an injury for two months. Upper body injury. They're going to rest him now.

In all seriousness though, what the heck was a 37-year old defenceman doing playing injured for 2 and a half months?

I'm going to have to hit you with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on January 19, 2015, 04:15:28 PM
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How did you do that?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 19, 2015, 04:17:02 PM
How did you do that?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


But actually: http://japaneseemoticons.net/
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 20, 2015, 08:03:17 AM
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@mirtle

Horachek sys Robidas has been dealing with an injury for two months. Upper body injury. They're going to rest him now.

In all seriousness though, what the heck was a 37-year old defenceman doing playing injured for 2 and a half months?

I'm going to have to hit you with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Earning his pay check!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 26, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
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Dave Feschuk ‏@dfeschuk  4 minutes ago
Hearing Dion Phaneuf missed practice today with a hand injury and is expected to be out a while, per NHL source. #leafs

Not confirmed yet, but makes sense given his absence and the lack of details surrounding it.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 26, 2015, 03:20:52 PM
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Dave Feschuk ‏@dfeschuk  4 minutes ago
Hearing Dion Phaneuf missed practice today with a hand injury and is expected to be out a while, per NHL source. #leafs

Not confirmed yet, but makes sense given his absence and the lack of details surrounding it.

Tank nation celebrate! Only bad news is he can't get trade when injured. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 26, 2015, 03:21:17 PM
Maybe he squeezed a cocktail glass a little to hard in the Tropics
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 26, 2015, 03:29:20 PM
Still trying to figure out how to copy stuff to this site

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58489870.jpg
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 26, 2015, 03:31:03 PM
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Dave Feschuk ‏@dfeschuk  4 minutes ago
Hearing Dion Phaneuf missed practice today with a hand injury and is expected to be out a while, per NHL source. #leafs

Not confirmed yet, but makes sense given his absence and the lack of details surrounding it.

It is Feschuk, though, so, I'm sure he spoke to Dion's mom, or wife, or someone else not actually part of the Leafs organization or medical staff.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 26, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
It is Feschuk, though, so, I'm sure he spoke to Dion's mom, or wife, or someone else not actually part of the Leafs organization or medical staff.

I did wonder how, of all the journalists in Toronto, he was the one who got the scoop here. I'd be happy if this was just Dubas messing with him.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Peter D. on January 26, 2015, 03:33:04 PM
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Dave Feschuk ‏@dfeschuk  4 minutes ago
Hearing Dion Phaneuf missed practice today with a hand injury and is expected to be out a while, per NHL source. #leafs

Not confirmed yet, but makes sense given his absence and the lack of details surrounding it.

It is Feschuk, though, so, I'm sure he spoke to Dion's mom, or wife, or someone else not actually part of the Leafs organization or medical staff.

Beat me to it.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 26, 2015, 03:35:00 PM
Maybe he spoke to his bartender (in the tropics)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 26, 2015, 03:42:44 PM
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@MapleLeafs

Peter Horachek says Dion Phaneuf is week-to-week with an upper body injury sustained prior to the all-star break. #TMLtalk
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 26, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
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Dave Feschuk ‏@dfeschuk  4 minutes ago
Hearing Dion Phaneuf missed practice today with a hand injury and is expected to be out a while, per NHL source. #leafs

Not confirmed yet, but makes sense given his absence and the lack of details surrounding it.

If true - from one of those fights?  Didn't he leave to go to the room for awhile last game?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 26, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
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@MapleLeafs

Peter Horachek says Dion Phaneuf is week-to-week with an upper body injury sustained prior to the all-star break. #TMLtalk

If it is actually his hand, it's just helps to show how stupid it is to have guys like Phaneuf getting involved in fighting, since that's likely how he injured it.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 26, 2015, 03:49:57 PM
jonasTSN1050: Phaneuf suffered the injury during the game in Ottawa. He tried to play through the issue, requiring trips to dressing room amid the action.

So, possibly, the Michalek fight?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 26, 2015, 03:52:13 PM
jonasTSN1050: Phaneuf suffered the injury during the game in Ottawa. He tried to play through the issue, requiring trips to dressing room amid the action.

So, possibly, the Michalek fight?

It's almost definitely from the Michalek fight, especially if it's a hand injury. But I'm sure they won't actually say that.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 26, 2015, 03:52:34 PM
If it is actually his hand, it's just helps to show how stupid it is to have guys like Phaneuf getting involved in fighting, since that's likely how he injured it.

So what you're saying is we need Colton Orr back.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 26, 2015, 03:53:15 PM
jonasTSN1050: Phaneuf suffered the injury during the game in Ottawa. He tried to play through the issue, requiring trips to dressing room amid the action.

So, possibly, the Michalek fight?

It's almost definitely from the Michalek fight, especially if it's a hand injury. But I'm sure they won't actually say that.

Lower wrist injury.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Britishbulldog on January 26, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
Still trying to figure out how to copy stuff to this site

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58489870.jpg)

There you go my friend.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on January 26, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
So what you're saying is we need Colton Orr back.

If the Leafs are going to dive head first into the McEichel sweepstakes, might as well. Gotta fill the roster somehow.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: TML fan on January 26, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
Still trying to figure out how to copy stuff to this site

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58489870.jpg)

There you go my friend.

Hahahahahahaha now that one is actually funny :)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 26, 2015, 04:57:50 PM
Phaneuf is injured?      :-X


Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: slapshot on January 26, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
This is actually a good thing. Gives the Leafs a chance to gauge their line-up with Phaneuf removed to consider future possibilities.

In an off-season makeover, he will likely be the first to go.
 
Makes sense for at least three reasons 1) shed cap space on overpaid player 2) miscast as captain from the beginning 3) with him, Rielly and Gardiner all being left handed shots and all powerplay guys, Phaneuf was pushing them both down the depth chart in minutes and on the powerplay. Let them play more and develop.

The fact that they are replacing Phaneuf with Granberg and not Percy shows they are looking to add some grit. This will actually be an interesting stretch of games to watch with Phaneuf out of the line-up. They'll probably go on a winning streak...
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 26, 2015, 07:26:58 PM
Hey BBB how did you do that, I was frikken around for an hour before I got tired and just copied the link. Thought it was hilarious and appropriate and as being in AZ for the winter very appropriate.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on January 26, 2015, 07:49:13 PM
Hey BBB how did you do that, I was frikken around for an hour before I got tired and just copied the link. Thought it was hilarious and appropriate and as being in AZ for the winter very appropriate.

Either manually type the image tags at the beginning and end of the image link or highlight and use the "insert image" button (the second button; right next to the YouTube button). See below:

Code: [Select]
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Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 26, 2015, 08:41:54 PM
Is the Granberg call-up to fill in for Phaneuf?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Captain Canuck on January 26, 2015, 09:51:02 PM
jonasTSN1050: Phaneuf suffered the injury during the game in Ottawa. He tried to play through the issue, requiring trips to dressing room amid the action.

So, possibly, the Michalek fight?

It's almost definitely from the Michalek fight, especially if it's a hand injury. But I'm sure they won't actually say that.

I read one report that said he initially injured it fighting the Staals and then made it worse fighting Michalek. It's so awesome the Leafs pay him millions to break his hand face punching people!  ::)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 26, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
Any news on Lupul?

Would expect him back any day now.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on January 27, 2015, 12:40:40 AM
Joffrey Lupul, Peter Holland, Stephane Robidas and Leo Komarov all back at practice today for the Leafs.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 27, 2015, 07:43:20 AM
I guess with all the Dion hater's here, we will see how much the team needs/does need him in the next little bit.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Peter D. on January 27, 2015, 09:15:33 AM
I guess with all the Dion hater's here, we will see how much the team needs/does need him in the next little bit.

What I'm looking most to seeing is how Gardiner and/or Rielly respond to being given the opportunity on the 1st PP.  A move I have been hoping would have been done sooner.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 27, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
I guess with all the Dion hater's here, we will see how much the team needs/does need him in the next little bit.

What I'm looking most to seeing is how Gardiner and/or Rielly respond to being given the opportunity on the 1st PP.  A move I have been hoping would have been done sooner.

Same here.  Gives an opportunity for maybe someone like Gardiner to take top pairing ES minutes too.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 27, 2015, 09:20:30 AM
I guess with all the Dion hater's here, we will see how much the team needs/does need him in the next little bit.

What I'm looking most to seeing is how Gardiner and/or Rielly respond to being given the opportunity on the 1st PP.  A move I have been hoping would have been done sooner.

Same here.  Gives an opportunity for maybe someone like Gardiner to take top pairing ES minutes too.

Or Holzer.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on January 27, 2015, 09:22:05 AM
I guess with all the Dion hater's here, we will see how much the team needs/does need him in the next little bit.

What I'm looking most to seeing is how Gardiner and/or Rielly respond to being given the opportunity on the 1st PP.  A move I have been hoping would have been done sooner.

Same here.  Gives an opportunity for maybe someone like Gardiner to take top pairing ES minutes too.

Or Holzer.

He does have the experience.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: RedLeaf on January 27, 2015, 09:31:42 AM
If they start winning games without Phaneuf in the line-up, I guess he's pretty much trade bait?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
If they start winning games without Phaneuf in the line-up, I guess he's pretty much trade bait?

If they started winning, I would imagine the Leaf brass would view Phaneuf's return to the lineup as the equivalent to making a big trade to help for the playoff run and Nonis would then trade Gauthier and a 1st to acquire Dustin Brown.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on January 27, 2015, 01:17:59 PM
Any news on Lupul?

Would expect him back any day now.

Siegel answers my question for tomorrow night anyway:


Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050
Based on practice today does not appear as though Joffrey Lupul will return from injury tomorrow in NJ.

Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050
Leafs new-look top power-play (minus Phaneuf): Gardiner/Kadri on points, van Riemsdyk-Bozak-Kessel up front.

Nice to see Gardiner and Kadri with prime opportunities.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 27, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
Freer, I am not a Dion or Pylon hater, it is obvious we ask to much or him. He should be the 4 D Man on any team, he plays far to many minutes in his current placement. Can't comment on him as a C as I dont sit in the room.  Perhaps someone else would be more suited to that role.

The real fact of the matter is hockey has morphed with the new rules into a complete speed game, players are getting smaller and faster, enforcers are becoming extinct and guys who made sense in the old paradigm are not able to handle the speed and hence players speed around the P on a regular basis.  Can the P hit, you bet he can but the thing that made McCabe extinct, Schenn almost so and other flat footed D Men is the fact that they can't keep up.
The new D-Man is modeled after Rielly, Gardiner etc  If you can't keep up you won't be around long.
So if the P was to be traded for someone like RoR so be it. I won't cry in my pillow or lose any sleep. I would wish him well and thank him for his service.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 27, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 27, 2015, 02:03:57 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........

Yes all of TML wows have been because of Dion.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2015, 02:07:41 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........

Yes all of TML wows have been because of Dion.

Oh misery. Wow is me.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on January 27, 2015, 02:15:46 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........

Yes all of TML wows have been because of Dion.

Oh misery. Wow is me.

Thanks Andy007, I have missed our english lessons.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Andy on January 27, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........

Yes all of TML wows have been because of Dion.

Oh misery. Wow is me.

Thanks Andy007, I have missed our english lessons.

Indeed you have.   ;)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on January 27, 2015, 05:24:49 PM
Good one Little Hockey Fan, reminds me of the joke of the fellow when asked how long he had worked for the company said; "Ever since they threatend to fire me".
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: caveman on January 27, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Me (reading the news out loud): Wow, Leafs will be playing without their captain for at least a week. He's injured.

Hubby(without missing a beat): Leafs have been playing without a captain since Phaneuf got here.........

Yes all of TML wows have been because of Dion.

Oh misery. Wow is me.

Thanks Andy007, I have missed our english lessons.

Indeed you have.   ;)

well done 007.... 8)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 11, 2015, 12:59:43 PM
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Stephen Whyno ‏@SWhyno  3m3 minutes ago
Lupul aggravated injury, out at least next 3 games, Horachek said. #Leafs

For crying out loud...
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 11, 2015, 01:01:36 PM
Lupes lifestyle is not conducive to some backwater town, if we get him a trade to LA, Chicago or NY I'm sure he'll be healthy again.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 11, 2015, 01:12:55 PM
Hey remember this tweet from when Lupul returned from his previous injury:

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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  Jan 31
Looks like Lupul's knee may be bothering him. Acknowledged this morning that he wasn't 100%. Testing it out during TV break.

Shocking that the injury never completely healed.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Boston Leaf on February 11, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
time for Joffrey to call it a career and go play guitar for the replacements or death cab for cutie or someone
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on February 11, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
time for Joffrey to call it a career and go play guitar for the replacements or death cab for cutie or someone

I think you're confusing him with Lundquist.   :D  If Lupul played guitar he would probably tear his rotator cuff.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
time for Joffrey to call it a career and go play guitar for the replacements or death cab for cutie or someone

I think you're confusing him with Lundquist.   :D  If Lupul played guitar he would probably tear his rotator cuff.

Wonder how many rotator cuff surgeries Pete Townshend has had.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on February 11, 2015, 03:28:12 PM
This guy is unreal.

Anyway, better rest up for the deadline, even though he's probably not going anywhere.

Did I read that Franson is injured too? That's 2 of the more talented roster players out then.

Tank it up!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: caveman on February 11, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
Has anyone else heard a wild rumour about Phanuef and Lupul and an off-ice fight ? I'm not putting any stock into it but it is a crazy one !!   :o
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: bustaheims on February 11, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
Has anyone else heard a wild rumour about Phanuef and Lupul and an off-ice fight ? I'm not putting any stock into it but it is a crazy one !!   :o

You're right not to put any stock into it. There's always rumours about teammates on struggling teams getting into fights. There's rarely much truth to those rumours.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 11, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
I hope Lupul landed one! :P
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on February 11, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
Maybe fighting over who gets to see the doctor first.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 19, 2015, 09:14:03 AM
A bit more information on Lupul's situation right now:

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When a slim glimmer of hope remained that the Toronto Maple Leafs could get back into contention late last month, Joffrey Lupul decided he couldn't wait any longer to return from injury. He considered it "do-or-die time" and rushed back.

The result was just two points in six ineffective games before the organizational decision was made to rest Lupul. He has missed three more games since as the struggling Leafs understandably take a wait-and-see-and-wait-some-more approach to his nagging lower-body injury.

"It was just obviously the situation differs when it's kind of that desperation playoff time," Lupul said Wednesday. "When the losses started to pile up a little bit and it became obvious we weren't going to the playoffs, we decided with the training staff and the coaches it was best just to shut it down for a couple weeks and try and get it closer to 100 per cent, not go out there and put myself at risk or take ice time from someone who's working hard to go out there and play."

http://www.cp24.com/sports/with-leafs-out-of-playoff-race-lupul-won-t-rush-back-from-injury-1.2243230#ixzz3SC69L3HI

Could have probably worked this into the Tank thread as well ;)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on February 19, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
A bit more information on Lupul's situation right now:

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When a slim glimmer of hope remained that the Toronto Maple Leafs could get back into contention late last month, Joffrey Lupul decided he couldn't wait any longer to return from injury. He considered it "do-or-die time" and rushed back.

The result was just two points in six ineffective games before the organizational decision was made to rest Lupul. He has missed three more games since as the struggling Leafs understandably take a wait-and-see-and-wait-some-more approach to his nagging lower-body injury.

"It was just obviously the situation differs when it's kind of that desperation playoff time," Lupul said Wednesday. "When the losses started to pile up a little bit and it became obvious we weren't going to the playoffs, we decided with the training staff and the coaches it was best just to shut it down for a couple weeks and try and get it closer to 100 per cent, not go out there and put myself at risk or take ice time from someone who's working hard to go out there and play."

http://www.cp24.com/sports/with-leafs-out-of-playoff-race-lupul-won-t-rush-back-from-injury-1.2243230#ixzz3SC69L3HI

Could have probably worked this into the Tank thread as well ;)

Can he reach 100% before March 2?  Lupul seems like a better trade-deadline trade than an off-season trade, because maaaaybe he can stay healthy for one post-season, but a full regular + post-season? Forget it!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on February 19, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
A bit more information on Lupul's situation right now:

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When a slim glimmer of hope remained that the Toronto Maple Leafs could get back into contention late last month, Joffrey Lupul decided he couldn't wait any longer to return from injury. He considered it "do-or-die time" and rushed back.

The result was just two points in six ineffective games before the organizational decision was made to rest Lupul. He has missed three more games since as the struggling Leafs understandably take a wait-and-see-and-wait-some-more approach to his nagging lower-body injury.

"It was just obviously the situation differs when it's kind of that desperation playoff time," Lupul said Wednesday. "When the losses started to pile up a little bit and it became obvious we weren't going to the playoffs, we decided with the training staff and the coaches it was best just to shut it down for a couple weeks and try and get it closer to 100 per cent, not go out there and put myself at risk or take ice time from someone who's working hard to go out there and play."

http://www.cp24.com/sports/with-leafs-out-of-playoff-race-lupul-won-t-rush-back-from-injury-1.2243230#ixzz3SC69L3HI

Could have probably worked this into the Tank thread as well ;)

Can he reach 100% before March 2?  Lupul seems like a better trade-deadline trade than an off-season trade, because maaaaybe he can stay healthy for one post-season, but a full regular + post-season? Forget it!

i would be happy with a second.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chris on February 19, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
Might be better at this point to hold onto Lupul until the summer or even next season. Who is going to want to grab a player who, in addition to being frequently injured, is currently injured, for this years playoff run?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on February 19, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Might be better at this point to hold onto Lupul until the summer or even next season. Who is going to want to grab a player who, in addition to being frequently injured, is currently injured, for this years playoff run?
Exactly right.... but if Lupul can convince people he's back to 100% before the deadline.... would someone gamble?

I'm thinking the ONLY time we might be able to trade Lupul would be at a trade deadline... if not this year's, then another year's.  Take on Lupul in the off-season and you just know he's getting hurt at some point.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2015, 02:44:58 PM
Can he reach 100% before March 2?  Lupul seems like a better trade-deadline trade than an off-season trade, because maaaaybe he can stay healthy for one post-season, but a full regular + post-season? Forget it!

Considering the years left on his deal anyone trading for him would have to be pretty comfortable paying him for a whole season so I don't think it would make much of a difference.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Britishbulldog on February 19, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
Can he reach 100% before March 2?  Lupul seems like a better trade-deadline trade than an off-season trade, because maaaaybe he can stay healthy for one post-season, but a full regular + post-season? Forget it!

Considering the years left on his deal anyone trading for him would have to be pretty comfortable paying him for a whole season so I don't think it would make much of a difference.

With Lupul's experience in the league on various teams and their different dynamics I wish that Lupul was captain next year and Phaneuf was traded.  I thought Lupul comments to Seigel were on the ball as he lived through it.
http://www.tsn.ca/tear-down-won-t-be-so-easy-lupul-warns-1.211138
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: sneakyray on February 19, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
Might be better at this point to hold onto Lupul until the summer or even next season. Who is going to want to grab a player who, in addition to being frequently injured, is currently injured, for this years playoff run?
Exactly right.... but if Lupul can convince people he's back to 100% before the deadline.... would someone gamble?

I'm thinking the ONLY time we might be able to trade Lupul would be at a trade deadline... if not this year's, then another year's.  Take on Lupul in the off-season and you just know he's getting hurt at some point.

lupul just said the other day that he won't be back to 100% the rest of this season.  They should just have him go home and show up again next year.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on February 20, 2015, 08:06:20 AM
Might be better at this point to hold onto Lupul until the summer or even next season. Who is going to want to grab a player who, in addition to being frequently injured, is currently injured, for this years playoff run?
Exactly right.... but if Lupul can convince people he's back to 100% before the deadline.... would someone gamble?

I'm thinking the ONLY time we might be able to trade Lupul would be at a trade deadline... if not this year's, then another year's.  Take on Lupul in the off-season and you just know he's getting hurt at some point.

lupul just said the other day that he won't be back to 100% the rest of this season.  They should just have him go home and show up again next year.

He needs to be medically clear prior to the 2nd of Mar. He will be one of the many to be moved.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 20, 2015, 10:28:16 AM
I like Lupul, think he is an excellent player, to bad he is made of glass, to bad there is a rebuild on and he has to be moved from a pick of prospect of some sort
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on February 20, 2015, 05:02:03 PM
Can he reach 100% before March 2?  Lupul seems like a better trade-deadline trade than an off-season trade, because maaaaybe he can stay healthy for one post-season, but a full regular + post-season? Forget it!

Considering the years left on his deal anyone trading for him would have to be pretty comfortable paying him for a whole season so I don't think it would make much of a difference.

Even with his injuries he's still played over 600 games in the league and has done a pretty good job scoring in the playoffs, so I think he still has a lot to offer.  The way the injuries are stacking up, I'm hopeful that a playoff team will pick him up in an attempt to make a deep run.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on February 23, 2015, 08:41:26 AM
I did not get to watch the whole game, did Robidas return?
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on February 23, 2015, 08:43:35 AM
He did.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on February 23, 2015, 08:47:15 AM
He did.

Thank you. I had thoughts a broken arm after he went off.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 23, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
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Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050  60 minutes ago
Leafs sound hopeful that Dion Phaneuf will return by Thursday. First full practice with the team today.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Potvin29 on March 08, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
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@dalter

Stephane Robidas has been shut down for the season with a shoulder injury. Will have surgery.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 08, 2015, 04:05:05 PM
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@dalter

Stephane Robidas has been shut down for the season with a shoulder injury. Will have surgery.

Sounds like something he may have been dealing with for awhile. Again, you gotta wonder how much his performance this season has suffered because of all these injuries, but on the other hand he's also 38 years old now so injuries will probably be pretty inevitable.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Bullfrog on March 08, 2015, 06:13:10 PM
I'm 36 years old and just played competitive hockey for the first time in 25 years, with a bunch of five year olds.

I'm pretty sure I now need surgery.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chris on March 08, 2015, 06:41:57 PM
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@dalter

Stephane Robidas has been shut down for the season with a shoulder injury. Will have surgery.

Sounds like something he may have been dealing with for awhile. Again, you gotta wonder how much his performance this season has suffered because of all these injuries, but on the other hand he's also 38 years old now so injuries will probably be pretty inevitable.

Wasn't there a game a couple of weeks ago where he got slammed into the end boards really hard, got up looking like he was done for the season (barely made it off the ice, went to the dressing room), but somehow returned to the game. Can't remember when it was but I remember thinking "that looks bad".
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: herman on March 09, 2015, 12:18:48 PM
Wasn't there a game a couple of weeks ago where he got slammed into the end boards really hard, got up looking like he was done for the season (barely made it off the ice, went to the dressing room), but somehow returned to the game. Can't remember when it was but I remember thinking "that looks bad".

Yeah, that looked like an early retirement moment. I was very surprised he came back that game.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Al14 on March 09, 2015, 02:25:51 PM
Wasn't there a game a couple of weeks ago where he got slammed into the end boards really hard, got up looking like he was done for the season (barely made it off the ice, went to the dressing room), but somehow returned to the game. Can't remember when it was but I remember thinking "that looks bad".

Yeah, that looked like an early retirement moment. I was very surprised he came back that game.

Robidas may be old, but, he still seems to be one tough dude.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 09, 2015, 02:46:29 PM

Polak's done for the season too. Granberg's been called up.

T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-aaaannnkkkkkk
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: freer on March 09, 2015, 02:48:31 PM

Polak's done for the season too. Granberg's been called up.

T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-aaaannnkkkkkk

What the heck happen on Saturday. WOW
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Frank E on March 09, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
Wasn't there a game a couple of weeks ago where he got slammed into the end boards really hard, got up looking like he was done for the season (barely made it off the ice, went to the dressing room), but somehow returned to the game. Can't remember when it was but I remember thinking "that looks bad".

Yeah, that looked like an early retirement moment. I was very surprised he came back that game.

I remember that well...looked like a broken shoulder or something.  The replay was equally alarming.  I was certain he was done for a while. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on March 09, 2015, 02:54:32 PM

Polak's done for the season too. Granberg's been called up.

T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-aaaannnkkkkkk

What the heck happen on Saturday. WOW

I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 09, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D

Chris Johnson just said exactly that. He's been dealing with a chronic groin injury all season long.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Crucialness Key on March 09, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
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Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Frank E on March 09, 2015, 02:58:14 PM
I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D

Chris Johnson just said exactly that. He's been dealing with a chronic groin injury all season long.

Could be why he wasn't moved at the deadline.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Frank E on March 09, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
(http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/concepttanks/2011/crrrutch.jpg)

Your move, Carolina. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Al14 on March 09, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D

Chris Johnson just said exactly that. He's been dealing with a chronic groin injury all season long.

Could be why he wasn't moved at the deadline.

Or, just maybe, he has the type of character that you actually want to keep on the team.   
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 09, 2015, 03:14:55 PM
I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D

Chris Johnson just said exactly that. He's been dealing with a chronic groin injury all season long.

He dead-lifted that guy along the boards -- probably blew it out.

Welcome to the Guys with Hernias Society, Roman.  I hope you'll embrace your inner mesh as much as I have.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on March 09, 2015, 03:16:00 PM
I am glad our Tank is full
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Rob on March 09, 2015, 03:18:02 PM
The Tankichlorian count is off the charts.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on March 09, 2015, 03:20:57 PM
I'm tankaholic, every time I think of the Leafs I get drunk.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: pmrules on March 09, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
I wonder if this is an existing injury, and the Leafs just decided to shut him down for the season because he, you know, tries.  Smart move by Shanatank!!   :D

Chris Johnson just said exactly that. He's been dealing with a chronic groin injury all season long.

He dead-lifted that guy along the boards -- probably blew it out.

Welcome to the Guys with Hernias Society, Roman.  I hope you'll embrace your inner mesh as much as I have.

Yeah...that has to be it...must have aggrevated it going all Hulk on that guy....
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Highlander on March 09, 2015, 03:28:35 PM
Luckily the best hernia hospital in the World is in North York, the Shouldice.  Had one done there when I was 5, two hundred years ago.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chris on March 09, 2015, 03:46:45 PM
When do they announce Kessel is done for the season due to the nagging injury he's been dealing with for the past 2+ months...
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on March 09, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
When do they announce Kessel is done for the season due to the nagging injury he's been dealing with for the past 2+ months...

His ironman status is one of the few things he still has going for him.  Knowing that he can put up 30-40 goals AND stay healthy all season should help his value.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Chris on March 09, 2015, 03:54:13 PM
3 goals in his last 16 games, at that rate he won't hit 30.

I think he can surpass -30, though.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 09, 2015, 07:40:23 PM
Missed that Robidas is also done for the year.
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Captain Canuck on March 09, 2015, 08:16:35 PM
Robidas and Polak done for season = blueline in full TANK mode!
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on March 11, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
The Tankichlorian count is off the charts.

You're reaching. :-)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: Al14 on March 19, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
Robidas and Polak done for season = blueline in full TANK mode!

Some would say that we are better at tanking with those 2 playing!   ;)
Title: Re: 2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread
Post by: LuncheonMeat on November 29, 2015, 03:29:38 PM
Uh oh...

Babcock also said forward Joffrey Lupul likely won't play Monday because of what he called a nagging issue. In 23 games Lupul has eight goals and three assists.

I really hope he stays healthy long enough to trade him as he's having a pretty good season so far.  ???