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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: Yesterday at 01:27:55 PM »

Here's the Milwaukee Police trying to claim someone threw a "molotov cocktail" at them.

That's a water bottle and a portable water filter gadget.

I think I've seen enough of this. I mean honestly this is so enraging. The cops have already arrested 11,000 people. 11,000! I have a hard time believing 11,000 people truly needed to be arrested. And how many times have we already seen that police purposely have turned off their body cams? There is so much rot here and they are emboldened by a president who is a fascist thug.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/trump-stands-by-while-erdogan-orders-attack-protesters/580093/

The writing was on the wall so many times before. I can't believe there wasn't more unrest for this either, and now the US is paying the price. I'll be happy to not step foot in the States again until there's some level of reconciliation.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:25:58 PM »
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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 09:51:28 PM »
I was thinking the other day that although it's for the wrong reasons, the insurrection act might actually be a better option than putting the police forces in front of these demonstrations. The police is the familiar symbol of oppression, and every example of overpolicing in these protests furthers and fuels the divide.

The armed forces are probably a much better representation of middle america instead of 200K a year police officers wielding military equipment that they shouldn't have. It's hard to accept the symbol of the military in the streets, but done creatively, without weapons of war, standing with the protesters instead of in a line ahead of them, with an emphasis on de-escalation instead of confrontation, I think it could be a better option that what we've seen.

Regardless, the whole response has been shameful, and although this by no means started with Trump, I firmly believe his endorsement and normalizing of discrimination and casual racism has destroyed the progress made over the last 8 years prior. Biden has been more visible and a better leader on this crisis than the sitting president. I hope that affects the polls, even if the fracture in the country won't be bridged in a single term, or even 5.
You and I both know the middle chunk of your thought is not going to happen.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 01:44:21 PM »
Or we could call it "Lives Matter".   

Just a few thoughts, when I moved to the Caribbean 30 years ago, I noticed two things. Why did the Locals never sit on their porches or balconies, and why the overall mistreatment of dogs?  I asked one of my Local friends about this and he candidly told me that when they arrived as slaves, the only time they felt safe was when they were in their own shacks. There they could be free of the slaveowners eye and have camaraderie with their fellow slaves and families. In the case of dogs, they were used to control the slaves. The Blacks of the day were basically fearless of guns, but not dogs, so dogs became the control mechanism.
I say all this as we see that customs set up from the late 1600's are still part of the practices and habits of our present world.  Racism roots run very deep and we cannot expect a magic wand to wash the repercussions of Slavery away. In the islands there was a concerted effort to teach Local people about Dogs and how they should be treated and the value of them as companions. I can actually say over 30 years I have seen a quantum shift regarding the treatment of dogs in the islands. Great.   Racism, not so easy.
I remember as a young boy, going to Florida and seeing the rifles in the back windows of pick up trucks, the racism factor was so thick you could cut the atmosphere with a knife.  In the 70's I was in a bar with Dad when some rednecks came in and after a few drinks where into lines like "Hey Orville, have you every shot a N__gger"?  Orville responds, "No, but I sure would like too".  They laughed so hard they were falling off their bar stools.  I grabbed my Dad and quickly vacated the dive he had chosen.

Yet years later the stench of racism seems like it is finally gradually lifting. At a snails pace but it is lifting.

I feel for the peaceful protesters who are out to try and jump start true equality and respect.
It's really too bad that the movement has been totally highjacked by looters and arsonists. 
It also to bad the U.S does not have a present day Martin Luther King to preach peace and tolerance to try and help his people. They need a leader like India needed Gandhi in his day.
I fear that Trump will have to move in the military with shoot to kill orders and then we may see the real race war that has been boiling for centuries.   I certainly hope not.

I think generally most people who are speaking out loud aren't condoning violence. But it's almost like police attacking people, having them lose eyes, tear gas thrown, and police cars running people over... you might be stoking some violence. If the President is descending into thuggery and dictatorial rule... you might be stoking some violence.

And I do think most people are protesting peacefully, and I think looting of stores are just crimes of opportunity by people who aren't part of the protests, but if the people have been pushed this far to a point where some level of violence is the only thing that gets the attention of those in power then maybe they brought it upon themselves. It's how America was founded in the first place for crying out loud. I'm sure the British were saying "Well, it'd be fine if you protested in the way we approve of (which is not protesting) but did you really need to destroy all that tea??"

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I fear that Trump will have to move in the military with shoot to kill orders and then we may see the real race war that has been boiling for centuries.

He doesn't have to do that. That's a choice that he will have made because his mind is so bereft of the capability of making good decisions; decisions and actions that de-escalate tensions, not stoke them.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:49:58 AM »
All Lives Matter.

I too like to go to Funerals and say, sure you are mourning but lots of other people are mourning other dead people too.

Very true, although to me it's even worse than that because the all lives matter tag I feel is really disingenuous even in that sense. It's like a young person getting killed as an innocent and going to their funeral and saying to the family you should also mourn my grandmother who died peacefully at 93 a few years ago.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2020 NHL Draft
« on: June 02, 2020, 08:25:13 AM »
Not many stars in the bunch, sure, but 16 guys who played 400+ games in the NHL. That's not exactly just a bunch of fringe players - those are legit NHL players. 8 players drafted in the 5th round or later played 250+ games, which is an excellent return on late round picks.

The lack of high level talent is disappointing, yeah, but the Leafs still produced a solid number of guys that had legit NHL careers.
That we promptly traded away [emoji23] (I will never get over the Steen trade).

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: June 01, 2020, 09:22:02 PM »
Horrifying. They need to get the death cult out of power. This is absolute madness.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: May 31, 2020, 12:44:50 AM »
I said it a while ago with regards to the most important schism in politics not being left/right but pro or anti-revolution but I think we're seeing the evidence of that now. The more and more people think they're playing a rigged game without meaningful democracy and the more and more the winners of that game take the attitude of "Tough luck, losers. I got mine" then the more and more you're likely to see this sort of violence and resistance. This is what leads to the revolutions in other countries that we read about briefly before moving to the sports page and we're no more evolved or civilized than the people in those places are.

Simply put, the status quo no longer works for a lot of people and if you're one of the lucky few who it does work for you're either going to be in favour of massive reform or, well, you're going to see people throwing bricks.

With that level of social stratification as well as outright institutional racism & massive erosion of basic democracy? Yeah man, something's got to give here, especially when you've got an administration that has basically failed the American people in every possible way except for maybe the already entrenched elite.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Nick Robertson signed to 3 yr ELC
« on: May 30, 2020, 02:20:07 PM »

Duh but also boo hiss

I'm really amped to see what he brings. Really hoping he can replace Johnsson.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2020 NHL Draft
« on: May 30, 2020, 02:19:27 PM »

You will not believe who comes in at the top of the list of teams

That actually is kind of surprising.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: May 30, 2020, 02:15:57 PM »
The vote going the other way would not have solved racism/sexism/discrimination, merely continued to hide it. It's hard to defeat something that people deny the existence of. We've seen it ourselves here: they keep doing it because they don't know it's wrong.

It's out in broad daylight now. Between Brexit, Russia, France, ISIS, Boko Haram, and a Trumpublican US, we have tremendous fuel for education right on our door steps.

The election result is a great conversation starter to reach out to those of differing minds. Siloing with those we already agree with will only further the divides.

That would be great, but a lot of the people that were emboldened by Trump are willfully ignorant. There's no conversation to be had with them, or any education that's going to reach them. They're akin to 5 year olds with their fingers in their ears (and, yes, I acknowledge there are many with the same attitude on the other side, as well). These aren't people that are doing things because they don't know they're wrong, they're people who genuinely hold these positions and attitudes. Too many of them are beyond reach.

Their young children, on the other hand, hopefully are not. They're the ones that need to be educated, to be exposed to other races and cultures, and to have the values of equality and respect for basic human rights and dignities enshrined within them. We need to fix the future generations, because, the unfortunate truth is, large swathes of the current generations are broken beyond repair.

The problem is that the hatred just continues.  You can expose children to as much as you want but the values that their parents place on them seem to override what society is trying explain to them.  Like at the hatred that exists in the middle east and how long it has been going on for.  It's pretty simple to say "Hey if you stop hating one another, and stop fighting, things might get better", but they just don't want to let it go.

Be that as it may, I can't stop hoping; I can't say, this or that person is irredeemable. Because that route will lead to the Age of Ultron (or whatever AI singularity apocalypse you choose).

So yeah, it's going to suck (and be even more dangerous literally) for the next little while, but I know the oppression of what is good and noble will lead to some of the brightest works of humanity.

The indoctrinated hate mentioned does seem like a formidable wall. There's a reason such regimes abolish elements of society like free press and education up front. We have to keep talking about it, and try to build ideas towards solutions.

Where's your Pepsi now, 2016 herman? Sigh

We are in the worst timeline.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: NHLs 24-team Return to Play proposal
« on: May 28, 2020, 10:53:20 PM »
I know we are all starving to see our Leafs play again.

Speak for yourself. I'm really not. I don't need to see the Leafs if it means a tournament like this and especially with what's going on in the world. Hockey's a fun way to pass the time but if they announced no games until August or October or next year, I don't think I'd care much.
I think I'd feel more starved if it was another lockout and not a global pandemic [emoji14]

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: May 28, 2020, 08:25:54 PM »
In Northern Ireland we posted our first day without a death reocorded yesterday (back up to 2 today) but our last few days have been 1,1,1,8,2,0,2 So that little zero was a nice light at the end of the tunnel
Cheers!! [emoji482]

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: May 28, 2020, 08:25:31 PM »
Haha what did I mention now? I have no recollection of this, but thanks for the share!

My mistake, it was Bender. In my defense you both have 6 letters in your name and I very rarely listen to people who aren't me.
LOL!! He's one of  many in regards to good local/Canadian commentary and analysis on things right now.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: May 28, 2020, 08:22:33 PM »
As long as the hospitals don't get swamped with new admissions I think they will just ride it out.

This is one of the things that is getting left out of the discussion too much.  Shutting things down wasn't about preventing COVID cases.  It was from preventing overrun ICUs.  Having an uptick in cases if they are primarily mild isn't going to be the limiting factor on whether things get shut back down.  Besides we are still on the early wave of seeing if opening things back up causes a problem.  It's going to be next weekend and the week after that that will be a much better indicator of whether we are heading for another problem.
Are they not to some extent one and the same? To prevent ICU admissions wouldn't you also have to prevent cases in the first place?

I also don't see things backsliding into lockdown unless ICUs start to fill up but that doesn't seem like an elegant solution since ICU admissions and death are lagging indicators.

Not really.   In the early stages of COVID the threshold for Intubation was set incredibly low.  The hospital alliance I work with basically suggested if you went past 4 litres of oxygen by nasal prong, start thinking early intubation.  For COPD/long term smokers/people with bad hearts, that's really a low threshold for even healthy individuals wiht a bad pneumonia.  Now we are doing a lot more to prevent intubation with patients so that has made a big transition point for how quickly we need to access ICU beds for even sick COVID patients. 

We also just don't have a bed crisis in the hospitals at this point in time. If we ended up with a massive influx of cases, we potentially would have to reconsider going back to more extreme precautions, but at this point in time we are dealing with 70+ percent of our cases coming from the GTA and those numbers are steadily in the 3-400 range a day.  That just isn't the volume to justify keeping everything closed.   

We have also increased our ventilator access so should things actually get worse we have more bed availability than we did at the onset of the COVID pandemic so we have more wiggle room to handle an influx of cases.   

Categories of who is getting infected still play a big role as well.  Our largest death populations have come from the nursing homes.  Deaths have obviously happened in other populations but the elderly have been our biggest risk population.  Expanding people back to work and out in the day to day while keeping restricted visiting in the homes isn't likely to cause the same problem as just outright opening everything up into a free for all.
Right, obviously everything's a matter of degrees. I just wonder to what extent things get loosened are we able to be agile enough to dial things back if required or does it just start to rip and we lose some level of control we once had. It doesn't sound like reporting is all that good in Ontario....

I'm also just speaking out loud as someone with a predisposition to bronchitis from bad colds so maybe I'm a bit more on edge than others.

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