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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 12, 2019, 03:06:09 PM »
A stupid Q here but could the Leafs trade Kessel's $1.2 dead cap space away in return for a one way contract at
the same rate and term and then send the player to the Marlies (max $900k savings I believe) and thus opening up
another 900k? I realize the kicker is the 3 years.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Media Thread
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:03:57 AM »
I would hope Willie isn't going to be a $6.9 mil 3rd liner so that leaves Kapi on the 3rd..

All Sports But Hockey / Re: NBA Off-Season Discussion
« on: July 06, 2019, 02:13:13 PM »
Not really even a casual fan of the NBA but being a sports fan and cheering for the Raps anyway, I am pretty disappointed
Kawhi left but the Raps did everything right.

It does just reinforce my basic disinterest when the players can decide to create super teams that alter the balance of "power"..

It makes it hard to cheer for a team when all of a sudden they are passed by through no "fault" of their own...

When only 5 players are essentially relied upon it's much easier to alter the results.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 04, 2019, 02:11:34 PM »
After the latest two signing, barring any more moves, it leaves just under 10M for Marner.

Who would they move if Marner gets 11? Seems like Hyman would be the only option. Unless they're trying to move Ceci, but I doubt that.

Marner won't get 11. But Hyman and Dermott starting on LTIR gives them space, no?
To start, but also keep in mind they have 23 on the roster right now before signing Marner. They will cut at least 2 guys from the roster now, so add another 1.4 to the cap minimum. They are also allowed to go over by 10% during the summer.

Haven't looked but from memory the Leafs have signed 15 players ( ;)) to play on the 4th line and they can bury anything
under 900k I believe so scratch some to the Marlies and you'd be ok.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 02, 2019, 08:38:59 PM »
I wish that there was some sort of mechanism in the CBA that just sped up this process. I mean we see all this UFA deals coming together in less than a week but we're now probably going to see RFA negotiations drag into August and September pretty often. And considering the circumstances that you laid out that makes sense. There's no real rush on either side. But it just feels like such wasted time. Look at the Aho situation, the Canes were lowballing him hard to the point that they probably weren't even close to nearing Montreal's offer which they're now apparently "celebrating" (as they should). Presumably, Aho's people made that same offer to Carolina prior to going the offer sheet route and Waddell said no. Probably because he didn't feel like he had to "blink" yet.

I don't really know what the fix to all of this is. Move up the RFA signing deadline? Unless you move it to August, which seems extreme, I doubt that really changes too much. Maybe make it so after a certain date in the summer the compensation for offer sheets becomes a little relaxed? That could encourage more of these Aho-type deals where the player is pretty much just using it to get the contract he wants from his original team, but that would rely on other teams being willing to make an offer sheet that will 90% likely get matched.

Well, I always think it's important to remember that there's a difference in how this feels to weirdos like us and to your casual fan or even, god forbid, someone who spends the summer following other sports or doing stuff. Not having Marner signed creates a level of anxiety in us but realistically Dubas is still doing 99% of what he should be doing and Marner's enjoying his time off/working out so not a lot of time is actively being wasted.

I agree that it would be ideal if there was more of an incentive to get people to negotiate before any actual games are missed but I still think the only real fix is going to be having the NHL relax elements of the cap. Teams should, ideally, be motivated in these negotiations by trying to find a fair value for the player, not the manufactured reality that every dollar they give one player is one they can't give another. I think it just makes things too adversarial.

And sure, I hate the cap and so my solution to everything is getting rid of it, but the Leafs right now really are a study in why things at least need to be eased. The Leafs haven't gone crazy in free agency. Tavares is really it. What is hurting the Leafs right now cap-wise, and this sentence is just about as absurd as can be, is that they've been too good at drafting and developing players. Absorbing the 2nd contracts of 5 very good players in two years is a tough pill but just a ridiculous thing to punish a team for. Especially when this wasn't a Oilers-esque situation of having a bunch of lottery wins or several top fifteen picks in a row. The guys who are putting pressure on the Leafs cap were drafted 1st, 4th, 8th, 22nd and 202nd. The idea that any league should think there should be a downside to that sort of player development...that needs to get fixed before anything else. 100% correct. The Leafs finally devote resources and good talented people to develop players and now we get screwed (fans that is)...

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Kyle Dubas is JFJ 2.0 - Discuss
« on: July 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM »
This whole topic is just silly.

Anyone with half a brain would realize that's a very matchable offer sheet but for ***'s sake Carolina stretch it out
and hamstring the Habs....why make it easier?

As Guilt Trip said, don't file it for 7 days.


NHL Transactions / Re: Montreal offer sheets Aho
« on: July 01, 2019, 03:01:50 PM »
And now Carolina needs to wait 7 days to hamstring the Habs as much as possible

NHL Transactions / Re: Montreal offer sheets Aho
« on: July 01, 2019, 02:59:12 PM »
THIS is what we’ve been waiting for? Lol.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Zaitsev [tentatively] traded to Ottawa
« on: June 29, 2019, 11:05:49 PM »
Maybe I’m slow but why would Toronto have to ‘sweeten’ this deal?

Because of Zaitsev's contract and the Leafs' desire to get out of it.

I’m also I understand it, this next year is the issue so if that is indeed the case, how does simply being able to be rid of the dollars after next season help this season? Other than as stated being out from Zaitsev long contract is good I am befuddled....not the first time nor the last. I also wonder and I guess can assume that there was simply no ability to make at least a little bit of a hockey deal.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 28, 2019, 01:34:48 PM »
I just don't get it.  This is how negotiations go.  He saw how the Nylander and Matthews negotiations played out and now he wants his own.  And deservedly so.  Don't understand why Marner of all players should be made the example of at this point or be the target of dislike from the fans.

If he entertains offers from other teams, so be it.  That's a tool players can use and i don't see why more players don't use it (provided there are willing teams to engage).

The differences were pretty clearly laid out. Neither Nylander or Matthews sought out or entertained offer sheets. And the amount of negotiating through the media for Nylander and Matthews combined doesn't even come close to what we've seen with Marner in just the last few weeks. Matthews' in particular was pretty much kept entirely under wraps until it was announced. Maybe it doesn't bother you, and that's fine, but these are nowhere close to being the same kinds of negotiations.

I agree 100% with Carlton in that thru DD we’re getting what I think is Paul Marner’s “input”. That and the fact Mitch is a home town boy and Leaf fans are taking this stance real or imagined as an insult.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Marleau traded to Carolina
« on: June 22, 2019, 12:51:11 PM »
At least he didn't sign an aging star to a big contact that's one year too long. Save that bad move for the veterans.

Yes the crap Dubas is trying to undo now is all Lou.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 19, 2019, 05:55:36 PM »
A few thoughts that occurred to me last summer after I mulled over JT signing and the prediction/statement that Marner was going to
play with JT.....

- from the Leafs side, they had better sign him before last season even if it *appeared to be an over-pay* this past year

- If I was Marner I'm pretty sure I'm having a career year playing with JT so I'm signing anything.

Not exactly a genius take as it was pretty obvious if Leafs didn't sign him last summer that this was going to happen.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Marleau being shopped around
« on: June 01, 2019, 11:12:58 PM »
Kypreos just said that Marleau's family is moving back to San Jose, and he wants to move somewhere close to that. Mentioned Arizona, Colorado, and LA as potential landing spots. Said the Leafs might have to retain $1mil or so.

Like Zaitsev, this somewhat surprisingly seems now like it's a mutual desire to part ways.
He just isn't a fit. I think he knows that he just can't hack it anymore with better options on the wings already there.

I wonder how much attention he pays to his consecutive games streak because if I were him, I'd be thinking I'm not playing 82 games if I stay in Toronto

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