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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 28, 2019, 10:47:27 AM »
Friedman is saying Leafs offered a short term 2 x $8M deal so Marner can go back to the well in year 3 when presumably there's a new TV deal and the cap is higher.

I believe he said that they may offer him that, not that they have. So it seemed speculative.

That makes sense...no way a 2 year deal makes sense for the Leafs, other than punting the problem down the road.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 28, 2019, 10:43:43 AM »
Friedman is saying Leafs offered a short term 2 x $8M deal so Marner can go back to the well in year 3 when presumably there's a new TV deal and the cap is higher.

And he's got 3 RFA years left? That's an interesting deal.

From a Leafs perspective,  I would rather cave and go 8 x $11 or even as high as 8 x $12.

My guess is after 2 years he'll be asking for $13-14M + per year on a long term deal.  We will need the cap space in those prime contending years.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 25, 2019, 03:20:28 PM »
$13 or $14M for Marner? I'll believe it when I see it. If it comes to that, hopefully we can sign someone else (like Panarin) for a more reasonable amount and use the extra for another position of need (we do need a defense, after all). And the picks will be icing on the cake.

The big risk is that we let Marner go and aren't able to sign a really good player to take his spot.

In this hypothetical world, if Marner signs for $13M, Panarin or equivalent won’t be signing for $9M.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 25, 2019, 02:39:33 PM »
This is bonkers territory for Mitch.  No way is he worth that.  If someone else is willing to pay, then go enjoy being irrelevant in another market Mitch. 

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: June 25, 2019, 02:30:55 PM »
As always I'm pretty skeptical about that until I see it but it does sort of fit in with the idea that once you're willing to cross the line of making that offer sheet worth 4 firsts, the idea that the difference between, say, 11.5 over 5 and 13 over 5 would stop you doesn't really make sense. Even with the Leafs, if Marner makes sense at 11.5, it's really hard to think of what the extra 1.5 million could get you that switches things.

I would imagine there has to be a dollar value line, that once crossed the Leafs aren't willing to match.  I don't know what that line is obviously for Kyle.  Maybe that $1.5M in your example crosses it.  At $13M, for me anyways, the line has been crossed and $11.5M+ of cap space and 4 1sts are more valuable to me.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Marleau traded to Carolina
« on: June 25, 2019, 02:20:06 PM »
I was hoping to use that 2020 first round pick to actually upgrade the 2019-2020 team at some point during the season.   We are in a win now mode and from that POV, i would have traded one of the prospects. 

That being said, I never imagined 2 years ago when Marleau signed that it would take a 1st to gert out from under the 3rd year of the contract.  Is there a precedence for that kind of a payout?  I thought there would be at least one team to want a $2-4M cash player (after bonus was paid) and count $6.5M against the cap and that the player could potentially contribute 15 goals and leadership.


Marleau has a no movement clause and wasn't just gonna go where we told him, that's why the deal had to happen before buyout period so he would agree to waive. How many times does that need to be written??

My point was about my thoughts from 2 years ago when the deal was signed...but thanks for your input.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Marleau traded to Carolina
« on: June 25, 2019, 11:55:39 AM »
I was hoping to use that 2020 first round pick to actually upgrade the 2019-2020 team at some point during the season.   We are in a win now mode and from that POV, i would have traded one of the prospects. 

That being said, I never imagined 2 years ago when Marleau signed that it would take a 1st to get out from under the 3rd year of the contract.  Is there a precedence for that kind of a payout?  I thought there would be at least one team to want a $2-4M cash player (after bonus was paid) and count $6.5M against the cap and that the player could potentially contribute 15 goals and leadership. 

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Really happy for Tyler Bozak - Stanley Cup Champion!!!

Congrats Bozie!!!

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Let's go Raptors!!!

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
« on: April 30, 2019, 10:08:34 AM »
Despite his record, Stroman has been quite good this early season...

Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-3  1.43 ERA

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CJ mentioned the Leafs were after a big name RD at the deadline that just didn’t close out (there were multiple deals required to clear space and build assists for this move).

Who do you think it was?

I kind of think it was Trouba.

I don't think Winnipeg was going to trade a key piece given where they were.

I think it was a Carolina or St. Louis defenseman.

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Didn't watch the game, but apparently Chara AND Marchand AND Bergeron all got a penalty in the same game...didn't know that was possible.

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The extremely costly 5 minute penalty to Eakin, was barely a 2 minute minor in reg season game, let alone a game 7 3rd period.

Horrible call by the refs there.

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Wow...

San Jose Down 3-0 with like 10 mins left in the 3rd period gets a 5 min PP.  They score 4 (yes FOUR) PP goals to take the lead.

Vegas ties it with less than a minute left.

This is going to OT!!!

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Is anyone watching this 3rd period???

Absolutely unreal!!!!

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