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Marner and Tavares have been really good, but even they still play with a lazy mindset too often.  This has to be the leafs physical team in the league and their entire game plan is geared toward a physical team.  There is good reason they continually get outplayed.

Jesus, man. Marner is on pace to have the highest-scoring season of any Leafs winger -- ever. All you can do is claim he plays lazy too often?

Their entire game plan is geared toward a physical team? I don't even....

Are you arguing that the leafs donít dump and chase?

Nope. I'm not arguing that.

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Once again, it's not just Gardiner out there. He has a partner who isn't good enough to be 2nd pair and might just be a replacement level player on defense.

And for a team that, in general, does a piss poor job of providing support for their defensemen most nights. A lot of Gardiner's poor plays come in situations where he doesn't have a good, easy outlet for the puck. If the team played a more responsible style - as in, if a forward or two stayed in the defensive zone when the puck was there, instead of everyone blowing the zone for a stretch pass, or one of them coming down deeper into the defensive zone to help alleviate the pressure from the opposition's forecheck - you'd see a lot of Gardiner's issues disappear. And this isn't a Gardiner specific issue. This is something that's true for almost every blue liner in the league.

Fair enough, but they utilize the stretch pass play precisely because Rielly and Gardiner have the skill to pull it off routinely.

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Marner and Tavares have been really good, but even they still play with a lazy mindset too often.  This has to be the leafs physical team in the league and their entire game plan is geared toward a physical team.  There is good reason they continually get outplayed.

Jesus, man. Marner is on pace to have the highest-scoring season of any Leafs winger -- ever. All you can do is claim he plays lazy too often?

Their entire game plan is geared toward a physical team? I don't even....

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Me, 20 minutes ago: "I missed the game, I'll go read the GDT for an objective summary of what happened."

Me, now:


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I didn't notice who it was on the 3rd goal, just that it was not not good.

Why are we not allowed to bring up bad Gardiner defensive zone plays?  Because he has good offense?

We're absolutely allowed to bring up bad Gardiner plays. It would be nice, however, if we also mentioned his good plays which significantly outnumber his bads. The difference in number is so significant, you might even say that he contributes to the success of the team.

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He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

Ya, that's just not true.

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Do we really know how lucky we are to have Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Tavares, Kadri and then have guys like Kapi and Johnsson playing for us?   Five years ago Kapi and Johnsson would have been all we talked about.  We are so blessed for Shanahan and Dubas and some great drafting and some good luck getting Auston.  What really do we have to complain about?  It lights out the best Leaf team in ages.

Matthews: 21 years old
Marner: 21 years old
Nylander: 22 years old
Kapanen: 22 years old
Rielly: 24 years old
Johnsson: 24 years old
Tavares: 28 years old
Kadri: 28 years old

This is the most exciting part of it. 1/2 of them barely able to drink in the US.

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He's starting to look like his old self again. Really driving through the neutral zone, lots of puck carrying time, good chances, drew a penalty. Really wish he'd score though.

Also how long has it been since Kadri's scores? He seems to be in a bit of a slump.

He should just stickhandle it into the net.

Crazy that he's hit six posts and three cross bars this season.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Which Leafs will Be Named All-Stars ?
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:33:02 PM »
God, that's a scary thought. I see your point.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Which Leafs will Be Named All-Stars ?
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:01:30 PM »
I get your sentiment, herman, but how would Lou being the GM all of a sudden make Matthews, Tavares, Marner, or Rielly somehow less talented?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The Defensive Logjam
« on: January 10, 2019, 11:59:30 AM »
I think he means negligible impact when they're all equally in game shape. I.e. they should be rotating in to ensure they're all ready to go when called upon. The negligible impact is that you're not significantly hurting the roster by playing the #7 guy over the #6.


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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2018-2019 NHL Thread
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:54:13 AM »
So you're saying that Erik Karlsson isn't washed up?

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Ok but to some extent you're just shuffling the deck chairs there. Sure, Hamilton is a RHD and so he could be on the top line with Rielly but that almost certainly means you can't bring back Gardiner so our #2 LHD suddenly looks pretty thin and you're not really adding much in the way of stout defensive presence. Throw in the cost to get Hamilton and it's tough not to think they'd be better off just keeping Gardiner.

I'm probably one of Jake's biggest fans on these boards but I'd still probably put Hamilton ahead of him. Even if it's just by a little bit the age difference and handedness make him a decent bit more valuable to me.

With that said, if Babcock ever decided to finally just move Rielly to the right side and pair him with Gardiner or Dermott AND Gardiner signed an extension with an AAV that didn't go higher than $6mil then yeah I'd probably be content not shuffling the chairs as you said. I'm just getting pretty tired of Rielly having to play with a crappy partner.

Agreed, but he doesn't necessarily need someone of Hamilton's level. Maybe a small step down? I know you didn't like the suggestion earlier, but I really think someone like Vatanen, who's a good puck mover, would make a good fit. Rielly still does the heavy-lifting, but Vatanen can at least carry the puck up ice, unlike Hainsey.

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If there is any conspiracy, itís that the NHL stacks the deck in favour of parity or the perception of parity (close games = drama = eyeballs on the game), hence the OTL point and shootout design.

While recognizing you said "if", it seems this would be more prone to simple human bias. That is, there's no conspiracy, but the refs are human and humans lean towards parity.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The powerplay: Time to reboot?
« on: January 06, 2019, 01:25:56 PM »
Busta, that's what I've been advocating for weeks. It's not to punish Kadri at all, it's to strengthen the 2nd unit. With Nylander back, we've got tonnes of talent to put on the 2nd unit. I'd put Marleau in Kadri's spot on the 1st unit. He's well suited for that type of position.

Kapanen-Kadri-Nylander-Gardiner and most likely Johnsson (assuming Marleau is on the 1st PP) makes for a decent 2nd unit. Or instead of Johnsson, try Dermott and Gardiner.

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