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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Minor Ex-Leaf News
« on: May 08, 2020, 02:40:46 PM »
The guy is turning 26 in a couple weeks. That's not really "just a kid" territory.

And to Carlton's point, I certainly said and did a lot of dumb things when I actually was in my early 20's but by and large they didn't involve being crappy to other people. There's a pretty fair gap between thinking this is lousy behaviour and thinking that makes you above reproach.

No one has justified it, just stating that it isnt that far out from the norm among young people.  Heck it's not that unusual at any age.  He has been outed as a douche and will pay a very heavy price.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Minor Ex-Leaf News
« on: May 08, 2020, 02:34:44 PM »
This wasn't just one or two comments. This was an entire group chat that seemed to exist for the sole purpose of saying misogynistic bullcrap. If you think that's normal you're really just telling on yourself/your social circle.

I have owned a retail business for 20 years that employs mostly young and mostly female. I have heard those conversations every Monday about the weekend's conquests for 20 years. It's not just a Male thing. It gets more forward by the year. If you dont hear those types of things on a fairly regular basis your group is probably more of an exception than the rule.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Minor Ex-Leaf News
« on: May 08, 2020, 02:22:30 PM »
To bad he has already made enough money to retire on.

He would retire pretty poor on his earnings so far.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Minor Ex-Leaf News
« on: May 08, 2020, 02:20:42 PM »
hockey player acting like I was already pretty sure hockey players act like.

Hockey Players acting like people act.

I get what you're saying but it's silly to pretend like this isn't particularly prevalent in sports culture and young men specifically.

I wouldn't say it's prevalent more in sports any more than it is in generally male dominated areas of our world. I work in industrial areas and those comments aren't far off from what I hear most days of the week. I've also gotten quite a few messages in the past few years on social media that would insinuate fairly similar attitudes.

I'm not condoning it, just saying that it's not a sport problem. It's a people problem.

If you think young girls talk any different I've got news for you.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mikko Lehtonen signs with Leafs
« on: May 04, 2020, 10:26:25 AM »
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If Phil Kessel retired when this season is declared over (heaven forfend), would we be free and clear?

Phil retired after last season, moved down to AZ and now just plays rec hockey.  I have seen it.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2019-2020 NHL Thread
« on: April 24, 2020, 02:39:34 PM »
Spitballing a 2014 (ignoring who was slotted to draft)

Draisaitl
Point
Nylander
Pastrnak
Ehlers
Ekblad
Reinhart
Arvidsson
Larkin
Fiala
Would you really put Nylander ahead of Pasta at this point?

Are you new here?? Its his Son in Law!!!!! :)

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM Thread 2020-2021
« on: April 17, 2020, 02:30:13 PM »
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He's not a perennial MVP candidate but I'm not sure that his one dominant season really should have made him that kind of player.  He always struck me as a guy who is just really good but has injury troubles.  Can't stay healthy enough to be dominant all the time but also not quite that top tier player.

He's still at something like 89 points in 98 games or something like that over the last two seasons.

He us lived in AZ and is by far the most exciting forward. He could have cashed in this year without a doubt. Not sure he gets as much this summer as AZ probably would have paid him in Feb?? No idea if that matters to him?

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TIL Taylor Hall rented out Auston Matthews' home after his trade to Arizona. With the season on hold (let's face it, over), Hall is now back in Toronto.

https://theathletic.com/1749235/2020/04/15/lebrun-taylor-hall-on-weird-time-importance-of-playing-games-before-playoffs/

You know, he's not really coming off that great of a season. A cheap, one-year deal with a team that can provide him with one (or two) elite centres to play with so he can get his value back up to his MVP days before cashing in on a big long-term deal when the cap rebounds would be wise.

edit: nevermind I just remembered who his agent is

edit2: I also just got to the part of the article where he specifically writes off the idea of a 1-year deal

Wonder if he's regretting not negotiating with AZ during the season? Probably going to cost him a lot of $$

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 05, 2020, 11:43:09 PM »
That advice is contradicted by the World Health Organization, the government of Canada and federal public health officials like Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam. On its webpage, the WHO says that "if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected [COVID-19] infection."

"Putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously, if you're not infected," Tam said Monday.
My rebuttal is to your part saying she is still spouting mask bs etc. and I think that tweet did it's job in refuting that argument. What was said a week ago is outdated.

So if the study Canada is currently part of for the not to mentioned treatment gets proven to work we can then mention it?? But not while they are testing it, just once the results are in?? Gotcha
I have no idea what you're trying to convey here. The previous parts of the thread talking about hydroxychloroquine isn't here so I don't really know what they said. Are you referring to a study on masks or something? I think debating whether a drug works or not is pretty ridiculous for this type of site and is something best left to scientists and health care professionals. Wearing a mask is a different debate because you aren't ingesting a chemical without any trials and has more nuance to it than you're leading on. I'm not going to get mad at people who wear masks but I am going to be annoyed at people who think a cotton mask is the same as a surgical mask/N95 or use it as a pretext to keep going out or that it's some kind of pancea that has 0 trade offs in terms of risk. But again, that's a much different discussion.

I think my position is pretty clear and I don't really have anymore time or energy dealing with disingenuous posts or baiting or whatever it is you're trying to do. If you want to get into more detail on a platform with basically no guidelines get on twitter or something.

Nothing disingenuous about it. I simply questioned why the need to censor posters just because you don't agree with their posts.  I was told the only acceptable posts are those approved by Health Canada or WHO or similar. I don't think they have been exactly factual on this crisis as the mask writings proved. And the treatment we could not discuss is now actual in study by Canada?? But the point of my post was to allow open discussion not echo chamber like this place has been shifting towards.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/malaria-drug-being-studied-on-the-list-of-possible-covid-19-treatments-tam-1.4883377

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 05, 2020, 10:31:06 PM »
That advice is contradicted by the World Health Organization, the government of Canada and federal public health officials like Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam. On its webpage, the WHO says that "if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected [COVID-19] infection."

"Putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously, if you're not infected," Tam said Monday.
My rebuttal is to your part saying she is still spouting mask bs etc. and I think that tweet did it's job in refuting that argument. What was said a week ago is outdated.

So if the study Canada is currently part of for the not to mentioned treatment gets proven to work we can then mention it?? But not while they are testing it, just once the results are in?? Gotcha

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 05, 2020, 05:24:45 PM »
That advice is contradicted by the World Health Organization, the government of Canada and federal public health officials like Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam. On its webpage, the WHO says that "if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected [COVID-19] infection."

"Putting a mask on an asymptomatic person is not beneficial, obviously, if you're not infected," Tam said Monday.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 05, 2020, 05:23:34 PM »
There seems to be no way out with this COVID-19 virus.  It’s almost as if the virus likes to pick and choose who it will infect.
This stealth virus has all the makings of a cleverly mutated bio engineered product, despite science disputing this claim.  Then again, how can we be so certain of that as well?

Stop with the baseless conspiracy theories. They don't help anyone.

My 2nd reminder: anti-vaccine and conspiracy theories regarding COVID-19 have no place here. I'll leave this post up to serve as an example.

These views are garbage even on the best of days but people are DYING here. I don't expect anyone else on these boards to have an issue following this simple directive but I just wanted to repeat it once again.

Why do you get to decide what others think or post? You probably not mind folks using Dr Tam's word yet She is still touting the absolute BS that masks don't work? Let the reader decide their own opinions. This whole pandemic is an example of opinions and facts changing.
She hasn't said that fyi. Shockingly there is nuance to the subject.

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On Monday, at a briefing in Ottawa, though, Dr. Theresa Tam, chief public health officer of Canada, said that Canada is not now planning to change its advice, for two reasons. Firstly, because there is a shortage of masks for health workers.

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Secondly, it is not clear that masks actually help prevent infections, and may increase the risk for those wearing them.

“What we worry about is actually the potential negative aspects of wearing a mask, where people are not protecting their eyes, or other aspects of where the virus could enter your body, and that gives you a false sense of confidence,” she said. “But also it increases the touching of your face. If you’ve got a mask around your face sometimes you can’t help it because you’re just touching parts of your face. The other thing is the outside of the mask could be contaminated.”

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 05, 2020, 01:44:35 PM »
It's not the first thing you have tried to sanction. You also tried when folks wrote about alternative medicine.

And will continue to do so, thanks. If you have a problem with that feel free to find another Toronto Maple Leafs forum that allows that sort of discussion.

Until hydroxychloroquine is proven effective by something like the CDC, WHO, or PHAC it won't be discussed here. Someone has DIED because of misinformation regarding that specific treatment already. I'm sorry for missing the original post about it yesterday.

People, the team lets you discuss pretty much anything you want here regarding the Maple Leafs or hockey in general. I'm taking a hard stance here on COVID-19 and I won't apologize for it.
Someone died by ingesting a fish tank chemical, I thought you wanted to be factual?

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