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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« on: Today at 12:59:05 PM »
Wait... the only other common denominator is... Zachary Hyman on the left flank. Holy forkin’ shirtballs.

Come to think of it, when did the Leafs start to falter in the playoffs last season...? Zach Hyman’s knee injury.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« on: Today at 12:55:15 PM »
I agree that both Matthews and Tavares have always been good at generating quality chances. Tavares especially makes something out of nothing routinely, but he got way more space and opportunity to exercise those gifts here and it had a lot to do with how the Leafs play in the OZ (not just Marner). Funnelling looks into the middle is a hallmark of the system the coach has employed here.

I watched a lot of Matthews highlights leading up to his draft. If I recall correctly, he had a good hard shot on a pretty standard wrist shot wind up that usually clicked from the top of the circles (Nylander shoots here). That might be a function of the larger ice dimensions. Either way, since Babcock came here, the Leafs consistently generate their looks in the home plate area, limited point shots unless they are 6-8 ft further in from the line.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« on: Today at 11:53:47 AM »
Quote from: Bullfrog on Today at 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: herman on Today at 10:57:34 AM
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This is in large part thanks to the talent assembled at the top of the roster, but really the system Babcock implemented is how and why the Leafs generate so many opportunities in the high danger zone.

Well, that and the fact that Matthews and Tavares have done that their whole careers.

Matthews has only played under Babcock in the NHL; Tavares has never scored more than 38 goals in one season before, and scored 37 at evens his first season here.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« on: Today at 10:57:34 AM »

This is in large part thanks to the talent assembled at the top of the roster, but really the system Babcock implemented is how and why the Leafs generate so many opportunities in the high danger zone.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: Today at 10:47:26 AM »
Quote from: princedpw on Today at 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: Bender on August 21, 2019, 09:01:22 AM
I don't know if it's completely unlikely that he burns the year.

Dubas will trade him before that happens. 

But sitting out the year won’t help Marner achieve any of his objectives (maximizing his salary, staying in Toronto).

Further to princedpw's note... every day Marner's camp takes this past Opening Day, his 1st year pro-rated cap hit goes up and his actual AAV goes down if he wants to sign with Toronto. His best bet to achieve his objective of staying in Toronto is to sign on the very last possible day before Opening Day that he's comfortable with. The Leafs have boxed out a heftier sum than they originally wanted to work with, so kudos to Marner's agent for driving up the price.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Today at 08:16:24 AM »
7. Andreas Johnsson

Remember when Johnsson was spelled Johnson because neither he nor his father ever wanted to embarrass anyone by correcting them? That remarkably started in Sweden with his father’s equipment manager with Frolunda and carried over until a couple years ago with the Marlies.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: Yesterday at 03:45:33 PM »
From that article Carlton shared...
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"I'm not saying Matthews is anything less but I'm saying as myself, I see Marner as a top guy that when [head coach Mike] Babcock looks down the bench, he seems to look for Marner," Bolland said.

Actually, Babcock was looking for John Tavares.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 12:46:50 PM »
I guess another point of discussion is also about the term prospect in general. It’s rare but not impossible to see a young player break into the league pretty early on and sort of fizzle out in years 3-4 after the league catches on to their schtick (or luck reverses). Case in point Patrik Laine. There’s still development to be had there. There’s still uncertainty in his projection.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 12:37:53 PM »
Less facetiously, I will add that the thread still serves as a place to discuss prospects (usually outside of the NHL and AHL rosters) regardless of the PPP summer exercise that serves as the throughline.

I still name the thread like this to deliberately incite that annual “bUt HoW can TheY bE a PrOsPEct?” response, so here’s my self-congratulatory pat on the back.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 12:08:49 PM »
Lol

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 09:05:42 AM »
8. Travis Dermott

Dragging Ozhiganov around the ice apparently did a number on people's perception of Dermott.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: Coaching and management changes around the league
« on: August 21, 2019, 03:04:29 PM »

The most boring timeline, but getting some strong Shooter McGavin vibes from this photo.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: August 21, 2019, 12:50:59 PM »
For reference:
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Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Auston Matthews, C (21)
Mitch Marner, RW (22)
William Nylander, C (23)
Kasperi Kapanen, RW (23)
Rasmus Sandin, D (19)
Travis Dermott, D (22)
Jeremy Bracco, RW (22)
Joseph Woll, G (21)
Nicholas Robertson, LW (17)
Timothy Liljegren, D (20)

I think the linearity of the list presentation obscures that he's probably ranking them in more of a tier and heavily favours offensive ceiling in his projections (a la Laine > Matthews). What puts Woll in the conversation likely has to do with positional value. An NHL backup goalie > 3rd pair D?

My ranking of the same list by ceiling is more like
Matthews
Marner, Nylander
Sandin, Dermott, Liljegren
Kapanen, Robertson
Woll
Bracco

but what do I know? I'm still tempted to slot Nylander over Marner by a narrow margin. Yeah it's different than my page 4 T25U25 rankings, but that was me guessing what PPP voters would do.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: August 21, 2019, 08:54:42 AM »
9. Timothy Liljegren

He played hard minutes for the Marlies as a mostly 19 year old and got the Focus on Defense training regimen. And by all accounts, his defense has improved significantly.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: August 21, 2019, 12:15:26 AM »

Because the Leafs committed to using LTIR, it will be impossible for the Leafs to sign Marner to anything more than ~10.5M AAV deeper into the season because of the pro-rated first year cap hit exceeding our LTIR room.

Because he also has no intention of playing outside of Toronto and no one is willing to offer a mind changing amount in addition to the 4 1sts, the only thing we are waiting for is how many years Marner will sign at the close of pre-season.

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