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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: Yesterday at 07:43:36 PM »

Stay with me on this: Sports play-by-play announcers for a game of competitive broken telephone.


So one guy says Shanahan nixed a deal and now another guy says Shanahan is coming in to make a deal. Tune in tomorrow for another thrilling episode of "How the Marner's turn"

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
« on: Yesterday at 07:35:58 PM »
What happened to Der Arguchintsev this past season?

Played on a bad team and had a poor showing on the stats sheet. Playmaking centre with wingers without finish = 0___0

But 1G 1A in 3 Growlers games

Playmaking centre might be a bit of an overstatement, given his 46 points in 62 games in the O.

6 goals :(


Keep in mind he's still only 18. Was really really young so let's give him a chance to grow.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: Yesterday at 07:02:40 AM »
You know I think it's kinda messed up that the media is taking Marner's CHARITY golf tournament as an opportunity to ask him questions about his contract negotiations when he's obviously just going to give canned answers like "I want to be a Leaf and hopefully my agent works things out" (which is literally exactly what he ended up saying obviously). I wasn't going to say anything at first, but now I've found out that they asked Michael Dal Colle what his thoughts on the Marner situation is. MICHAEL DAL COLLE! Like come on, just focus on the charity for one day people.



I mean the only reason the event is even on and being covered by media is the fact that Marner is a hockey player for the Leafs. If it were Mitch Smith putting on this event you wouldn't even know about it.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 06:18:15 PM »
Eh, why would Shanahan "veto" a deal?

If ownership didnt approve of the parameters would be an obvious reason.


But if the GM had a workable deal I can't see what parameters wouldn't be acceptable. The Leafs are the last team to care about spending money and they cannot spend over the cap so there's a built in limit to whatever the supposed deal was.  I'm not buying this.
Paul Marner wants to be Asst GM and has a say in all player decisions...lol


Yeah pretty much. Dubas: "uh Shanny we have a workable 6 year deal with Mitch but we also have to give Paul the presidents role are you ok with stepping down?"

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 05:53:08 PM »
Eh, why would Shanahan "veto" a deal?

If ownership didnt approve of the parameters would be an obvious reason.


But if the GM had a workable deal I can't see what parameters wouldn't be acceptable. The Leafs are the last team to care about spending money and they cannot spend over the cap so there's a built in limit to whatever the supposed deal was.  I'm not buying this.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 05:48:35 PM »
Eh, why would Shanahan "veto" a deal?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 05:03:11 PM »
Some geek accosted Marner at Wonderland

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 02:06:53 PM »
Speaking of Mitch, he'll be interviewed on Tim&Sid today at 5 (he might also be on Overdrive I'm not sure).  Will be promoting his charity event that's on today and tomorrow but I'm sure the reporters will attempt to sneak in a contract question or 2.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 02:02:49 PM »
I wonder if this entire Marner situation is just the tip of the iceberg going forward for teams, cap issues and young players coming off ELC.  I can see more and more teams facing this similar situation going forward so having a great cap-team together is key.  I know many Leafs fans are upset that the Leafs are the team going through this, but maybe the Leafs are blazing the trail here on how things will be done in the future. Lessons learned might benefit this management team that other teams might not have learned yet.  I guess we'll see, but I'm hopeful they can resolve Marner by Oct and keep this core together for relative long term.

I dont think theres any upside to this relative to signing them all to McKinnon/Pastrnak contracts.

From a point production standpoint, the collection of rookies the leafs had in a 2-year stretch produced at a historic rate. If the leafs had been able to lock them down to traditional RFA contracts, they would have had a massive built-in advantage over all other teams for 8 years.  The situation was unique and its unlikely to be replicated for decades.  Its a big loss.

I don't think the Leafs are alone in teams that could have 2-3 star rookies coming up through the ranks.  The trio of Matthews/Marner/Nylander were all acquired through great first round drafting at 1-4-8.  I don't see why other teams scraping by right now can't hit on a bunch of picks in the top 10 as well.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Mitch Marner: what now?
« on: July 18, 2019, 01:25:29 PM »
I wonder if this entire Marner situation is just the tip of the iceberg going forward for teams, cap issues and young players coming off ELC.  I can see more and more teams facing this similar situation going forward so having a great cap-team together is key.  I know many Leafs fans are upset that the Leafs are the team going through this, but maybe the Leafs are blazing the trail here on how things will be done in the future. Lessons learned might benefit this management team that other teams might not have learned yet.  I guess we'll see, but I'm hopeful they can resolve Marner by Oct and keep this core together for relative long term.

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2019-2020 NHL Thread
« on: July 17, 2019, 03:16:14 PM »
MacKinnon also followed up that contract extension with just a 53-point season. I bet Avs management was getting pretty worried about him meeting his draft hype after that one (and then he of course did).

I'm really hoping we look back at the Nylander deal in 2 years and comment on it being an absolute steal of deal.  He has the talent to far outperform that number, I hope he does it.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: William Nylander
« on: July 17, 2019, 03:14:39 PM »

I admit, I do not follow "Leafs Twitter" as a whole but all that article really cited were a bunch of people who used the number change to take a shot at Nylander for his bad year, only one guy mentioned Lindros or even the idea that taking his number was disrespectful.

Although the article didn't give many "Lindros" examples on twitter, the day that Nylander announced the switch both Nylander and Lindros were trending on twitter which suggests many people were talking about Lindros re: the number change.  It makes absolutely no sense given Lindros's 33 game tenure with the Leafs but there you you have it.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: William Nylander
« on: July 17, 2019, 03:12:32 PM »

I admit, I do not follow "Leafs Twitter" as a whole but all that article really cited were a bunch of people who used the number change to take a shot at Nylander for his bad year, only one guy mentioned Lindros or even the idea that taking his number was disrespectful.

Every time there's a "________ Twitter reacts to this news" article to show that people are outraged about something the only tweets that they present are from people with less than 100 followers. Like what's the point in sharing what @CrustyoldVet (2 followers) thinks about Nylander's number?

C'mon man, say what you want but Crusty Old Vet is a legend on Leafs twitter.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: William Nylander
« on: July 17, 2019, 02:48:16 PM »
Apparently, some people are taking issue with the fact Nylander is taking Lindros's old number.  Lindros, the Leafs legend that played exactly 33 games with the Leafs.  :o

On Lindros's own website he has himself in a Flyers jersey (and rightfully so) for crying out loud.


As if this was even necessary

Apparently his number change was causing "chaos" among Leafs twitter  ;D
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/some-donkeys-are-real-mad-over-willy-nylanders-number-switch-211658134.html

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NHL Transactions / Re: 2018-19 Trade Talk
« on: July 17, 2019, 12:56:40 PM »
I totally forgot about that Ceci thing. That poor woman, sounds like she's made great strides in recovery from recent articles.

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