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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: The "Mr. T" Man of the Match v.2021: The Mad Dash for Glory
« on: January 17, 2021, 11:48:58 AM »
Mariner and Brodie.
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Go leafs. Kick some Habs butt..
Well well well look what the cat dragged in.
This is going to make me sound about 1,000 years old but I really sometimes think that Clark is someone who is really hard to explain to people. Especially to younger people for whom fighting has always been seen as sort of a damaging and counter-productive element of the game.
But back in the early 80's and 90's the idea of having someone around who was very maybe the best fighter
around as well as an excellent goalscorer felt like your team had one of the best weapons in the entire game. People sometimes talked about Probert being a solid player in addition to being one of the better fighters out there largely based on one sort of flukey year where he scored 29 goals but Clark in his first go-round with the Leafs averaged about 37 goals per 82 games while just destroying people when the gloves dropped. The guy was a super-hero and, quite frankly, I don't really think there was anyone else quite like him.
I get all of the intellectual/hockey based arguments about why fighting needed to leave the game but when you were a kid and didn't know about all of the consequences it was just incredible to watch. The idea that we'll never see another Wendel Clark makes me sad, even though I know it's ultimately for the best.
And seriously though, I want to stress how good he was. If you look at his career from when the Leafs got good until when the injuries finally caught up with him I think you get the real picture. From 92-93 to 96-97 he scored 137 goals and 252 points in 303 games. That's 37 goals and 68 points per 82. I really, genuinely believe that with better luck with injuries and being on better teams that he'd have ended up in the Hall of Fame.
These dashing young chaps...
Sorry I don't feel horrible and I will never let anyone make me feel horrible, except if I am in agreement of the horribleness of it. Sorry just found out me old mom is on her way out and a bit frigged out today.
Condolences buddy. I've lost both of my parents and I can empathize how difficult it is.
My main point was just that the ways in which a team can disicpline a player are laid out in SPCs, not the CBA.
Right and what I'm saying is that the fact that the CBA specifies a Commissioner's power to do these things tells me that there really isn't a comparable team mechanism. What, to me, the article from PPP confirmed(although again without reading theSPC) is that there is no specific mechanism by which a team can suspend a player for as broad a concept as off-ice conduct and that the ways in which they can suspend a player have to be pretty specific and pre-registered with the league.
Wow, lunch breaks arrives and I check in again and see you guys have been doing some research. Well done.
Seems like it's still not clear whether the Leafs could suspend him for conduct unbecoming.
As for you, nutman, the mooning thing is purely secondary. He allegedly was with a group of intoxicated males who tried to enter the locked car of a single female. If true, that is very serious, whether you've emerged from your cave or not.
Again, assuming it happened the way it's been presented, Matthews is lucky nobody actually touched her in any way. If they had, his career might well have been over ... and no, I'm not hysterical or exaggerating.