Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 11:02:03 AM
.@SportChek Player Alert: The @MapleLeafs have signed forward Nicholas Robertson to a three-year entry level contract.
— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) September 19, 2019
Details >> https://t.co/El8b1X9Ez7#LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/2cFVIaLHti
Post by: CarltonTheBear on September 19, 2019, 11:03:50 AM
Post by: digdug on September 19, 2019, 11:17:27 AM
So if Neuvirth gets healthy and impresses Leafs will have
to make a trade before signing him
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 11:18:24 AM
That makes 50 contracts.
So if Neuvirth gets healthy and impresses Leafs will have
to make a trade before signing him
As an 18-19 year old and junior player and has not played 11 NHL games this season, Robertson's contract (as well as Semyon Der Arguchintsev's) is exempt from the 50-SPC limit.
https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#maximum_contracts
Basically, once an under-20 player is prevented from playing NHL/AHL minutes for their team (i.e. CHL or European league) until the trade deadline, the contract does not count.
Post by: digdug on September 19, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
Capfriendly had Leafs at 50/50 for a while
but its back down to 49/50
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 12:15:51 PM
thanks for the info ...
Capfriendly had Leafs at 50/50 for a while
but its back down to 49/50
Yup. We caught them before they had the full data set entered. I’m pretty sure it’s just a data flag that needs to be enabled otherwise the contract counter will include it.
Post by: Deebo on September 19, 2019, 12:49:48 PM
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on September 19, 2019, 12:59:28 PM
Robertson was born on September 11th, 2001.As a parent, that would have been a hell of an emotional day to have your kid born 3 months premature, as Robertson was.
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
- Sean Shapiro, biographical draft profile (https://theathletic.com/1040675/2019/06/23/from-nicu-to-nhl-the-remarkable-journey-of-second-round-pick-nick-robertson/)
- Scott Wheeler, The Gifted (https://theathletic.com/1094241/2019/07/31/the-gifted-leafs-prospect-nick-robertson-is-a-rare-case-study-in-the-value-of-effort/) series
- Rachel Doerrie, Leafs Prospect Ranking (https://theleafsnation.com/2019/09/09/2019-leafs-prospect-rankings-the-maybes-nick-robertson/)
- Scott Wheeler, player profile (https://theathletic.com/1190445/2019/09/09/he-likes-to-be-exhausted-leafs-prospect-nick-robertson-wont-let-anything-slow-him-down/) following Traverse City prospects tournament
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 02:05:48 PM
Fast. Physical. Tenacious. Versatile.
— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) September 19, 2019
Get to know @nickrob2001. #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/SaRISk08PW
Post by: Deebo on September 19, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
Robertson was born on September 11th, 2001.As a parent, that would have been a hell of an emotional day to have your kid born 3 months premature, as Robertson was.
Wow. 3 months premature?
I didn't know that.
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 02:56:47 PM
Robertson was born on September 11th, 2001.As a parent, that would have been a hell of an emotional day to have your kid born 3 months premature, as Robertson was.
Wow. 3 months premature?
I didn't know that.
The video above has the short version. The Sean Shapiro article (The Athletic) has the long version.
I was going over our draft thread from June, and Deebo said the exact same thing (https://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=5241.msg366749#msg366749) when Robertson was drafted.
He probably would've signed earlier in the summer but wasn't technically an adult yet.
Post by: lamajama on September 19, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 07:44:30 PM
Is there a particular reason he needed to be signed so quickly?
‘Cause if you like it, then you shoulda put a ring on it.
Also, performance bonuses, if any, can expire during the slide years while ELC control carries forward so by the time he makes the NHL at 20, it’s easier on the cap (see Kapanen).
I don’t know if Robertson has bonuses other than the standard signing bonuses (which is nice for the player who isn’t really getting paid in the CHL).
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on September 19, 2019, 08:25:35 PM
Robertson was born on September 11th, 2001.As a parent, that would have been a hell of an emotional day to have your kid born 3 months premature, as Robertson was.
Wow. 3 months premature?
I didn't know that.
Yep. He was deprived of 3 months of fetal development in utero, and as such, from a pediatric standpoint, he's on the same development footing as kids born in December 2001. Besides his actual premature date of birth (which was also very late in his draft year), biologically he really ought to be in next year's draft.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on September 19, 2019, 08:46:47 PM
Also, performance bonuses, if any, can expire during the slide years while ELC control carries forward so by the time he makes the NHL at 20, it’s easier on the cap (see Kapanen).
I don’t know if Robertson has bonuses other than the standard signing bonuses (which is nice for the player who isn’t really getting paid in the CHL).
It'd be pretty surprising if Robertson got any performance bonuses. Sandin didn't get any last year and he was drafted 24 spots ahead. But performance bonuses don't "expire", I think you're mixing that up with how signing bonuses don't slide along with the rest of the contract. That's what (very slightly) lowers the cap hit of a player who signs early like this and doesn't play in the NHL.
Post by: herman on September 19, 2019, 08:50:49 PM
Post by: herman on September 20, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
TIC. TAC. ROBBY GOAL! @nickrob2001 starts and finishes the play and buries it into the open cage. Some pretty passing courtesy of @david_maier17 and SDA. 4-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/6StnSJvboN
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) September 21, 2019
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 buries his own rebound and we're back in front by 3! Assists? SDA and @david_maier17, again! 5-2 Petes!
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) September 21, 2019
cc: @MapleLeafs #GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/znwVbvSHVe
Post by: herman on September 21, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
ROBBY! A quick release from @nickrob2001 on the power play beats Piiroinen and it's 2-0 Petes! Assists: @chis_decs (welcome back!) and SDA.#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/4t3OJKGsSd
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) September 22, 2019
Post by: Deebo on September 21, 2019, 08:31:50 PM
ROBBY! A quick release from @nickrob2001 on the power play beats Piiroinen and it's 2-0 Petes! Assists: @chis_decs (welcome back!) and SDA.#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/4t3OJKGsSd
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) September 22, 2019
SDA has 4 assists tonight.
Post by: herman on September 21, 2019, 08:34:26 PM
YES KIRKY, REYT GOAL 🇬🇧 @kirky_1424's second goal in as many games brings the score to 4-0! SDA and @nickrob2001 combine for the helpers.#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/b7XkUk8ZqT
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) September 22, 2019
This line is fire
Post by: herman on September 21, 2019, 09:50:36 PM
On a sillier note, the Petes were up 4-0 in the second and ended up losing to the Spitfires 9-6 tonight.
Post by: Zee on September 22, 2019, 07:46:32 AM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev has 7 pts in 2 games now (all assists). Robertson has 3 goals and 2 assists. These two were hyped from their Development and Training Camp time.
On a sillier note, the Petes were up 4-0 in the second and ended up losing to the Spitfires 9-6 tonight.
People were ripping SDA last season cause he wasn't that good but apparently the entire Peterborough team was bad so it's hard to shine when you have nobody to play with. Maybe SDA and Robertson can feed off each other and both have good seasons. Will help their respective developments
Post by: herman on October 04, 2019, 11:04:54 AM
SDA: 1/9/10pts
NR: 5/3/8pts
SDA has 6 shots on goal
Robertson has ... 23 (he put up 12 of them last night (https://ontariohockeyleague.com/gamecentre/24089/boxscore) lol)
Post by: Bender on October 04, 2019, 11:37:25 AM
Petes have played 4 games so far:
SDA: 1/9/10pts
NR: 5/3/8pts
SDA has 6 shots on goal
Robertson has ... 23 (he put up 12 of them last night (https://ontariohockeyleague.com/gamecentre/24089/boxscore) lol)
Definitely happy we've got two players able to feed off each other despite playing for a shitty team.
Post by: Highlander on October 04, 2019, 04:03:28 PM
NICE!!! 8)Petes have played 4 games so far:
SDA: 1/9/10pts
NR: 5/3/8pts
SDA has 6 shots on goal
Robertson has ... 23 (he put up 12 of them last night (https://ontariohockeyleague.com/gamecentre/24089/boxscore) lol)
Definitely happy we've got two players able to feed off each other despite playing for a shitty team.
Post by: herman on October 04, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
SDA! @semder009 finishes off a beautiful pass from @CButler_21! The Petes are back within one!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/5gQ2WKSzZf
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 4, 2019
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 rips it top shelf where mom keeps the cookies! The assist goes to @chis_decs. The Petes now lead 4-3!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/us12RQ4M6a
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 5, 2019
ROBBY x 2! @nickrob2001 makes it look easy and finishes the play from @semder009 and @kirky_1424 🇬🇧. It's now 5-3 for the Maroon and White!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/P9yHEFODuI
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 5, 2019
Post by: Bender on October 04, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
Post by: Zee on October 05, 2019, 09:52:53 AM
Post by: L K on October 05, 2019, 10:25:50 AM
SDA is on pace for 190 points
Twice as many points as shots of goal. He needs to shoot the puck more.
Post by: herman on October 05, 2019, 10:44:37 AM
SDA: 2/12/14pts
NR: 7/4/11pts
Post by: princedpw on October 05, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Post by: herman on October 05, 2019, 11:23:42 AM
SDA is more like Adam Brooks/Jeremy Bracco. His offence needs to be through the roof to get earlier consideration, or an underrated defensive game needs to become more apparent. If he develops bulk and more foot speed, we could see him in 3-4 years. They’re both still so young.
Post by: Highlander on October 05, 2019, 11:51:24 AM
Post by: Guilt Trip on October 05, 2019, 12:07:50 PM
Methinks Hyman will not be a Leaf next season, his 2.5 M is replaceable with a cheaper alternative, although Babs loves him.Not to split hairs but he makes 2.25 per but I think the same way. He's replaceable and they can save 1.5 on the cap.
Post by: Highlander on October 05, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Whats 250K between friends?Methinks Hyman will not be a Leaf next season, his 2.5 M is replaceable with a cheaper alternative, although Babs loves him.Not to split hairs but he makes 2.25 per but I think the same way. He's replaceable and they can save 1.5 on the cap.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 05, 2019, 12:51:48 PM
Post by: Guilt Trip on October 05, 2019, 12:57:08 PM
Let's wait to see how the rest of the month goes before saying how replaceable Hyman is. Shouldn't make any claims after 2 games but the jury still seems out on that one.Not talking this year. He's not going anywhere yet. Next year will be different tho. Jury is def still out.
Post by: herman on October 06, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 is rewarded with a penalty shot and makes no mistakes! We're ahead by two for the first time this game! 4-2 Petes!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/8WZ4qGgdW7
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 6, 2019
Post by: OldTimeHockey on October 07, 2019, 05:54:17 AM
SDA! @semder009 finishes off a beautiful pass from @CButler_21! The Petes are back within one!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/5gQ2WKSzZf
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 4, 2019ROBBY! @nickrob2001 rips it top shelf where mom keeps the cookies! The assist goes to @chis_decs. The Petes now lead 4-3!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/us12RQ4M6a
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 5, 2019ROBBY x 2! @nickrob2001 makes it look easy and finishes the play from @semder009 and @kirky_1424 🇬🇧. It's now 5-3 for the Maroon and White!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/P9yHEFODuI
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 5, 2019
Did you see how that game ended? It's like the Wild West! The Petes could use a little team defence and a goalie.
Post by: Arn on October 07, 2019, 05:57:50 AM
Post by: Highlander on October 07, 2019, 12:11:19 PM
Post by: herman on October 09, 2019, 09:24:15 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 extends his scoring streak to 7 games after stripping the Spirit of the puck! That'll all but do it - we're up 4-0! SDA picks up a helper on Robby's 9th of the season.#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/oqlNFyhz2Y
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 10, 2019
Post by: herman on October 10, 2019, 01:10:59 PM
Nick Robertson leads the OHL with 9 goals and is 2nd in points with 15
— Future Of The Six (@FutureOfTheSix) October 10, 2019
It’s also worth noting that Semyon Der-Arguchintsev is tied for 3rd in the OHL with 14 points and is 2nd in assists with 12
— Future Of The Six (@FutureOfTheSix) October 10, 2019
It took him 22 games to reach 14 points last season, this year it has only taken him 7 games
Thinking of renaming this thread to Peterbro Bros
Post by: Zee on October 10, 2019, 02:12:04 PM
Post by: L K on October 10, 2019, 05:01:24 PM
SDA is in a slump, he had 14 points in 5 games. :'(
I'm still more concerned about his 2 goals and only 11 shots in 7 games than his overall point totals. It really doesn't strike me as the kind of OHL production that will project to the NHL.
Post by: herman on October 11, 2019, 08:07:50 PM
ROBBY! Make it goals in eight straight for @nickrob2001 with assists to - you guessed it - @kirky_1424 and SDA! We're ahead 2-1!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/ByruIIQ5K1
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 11, 2019
Peterbro Bros!
Post by: herman on October 11, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Post by: herman on October 12, 2019, 10:58:29 PM
ROBBY! The goal streak continues as @nickrob2001 sends a rocket behind Popovich on the power play off a feed from @chis_decs! 4-2 Firebirds.#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/L0r4QGZEr4
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 13, 2019
Guess what?
Chicken butt
This one got credited to Zach Gallant for the tip in front after.
Post by: herman on October 17, 2019, 10:06:14 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 with a laser of a shot 7 seconds into the power play to tie the game at 3!!! Assists to @chis_decs and SDA!#GoPetesGo pic.twitter.com/waPvbzWVO2
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 18, 2019
Post by: princedpw on October 17, 2019, 10:47:54 PM
What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft? Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?
Of course, it is early.
Post by: Zee on October 18, 2019, 09:04:37 AM
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points
What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft? Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?
Of course, it is early.
There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success. Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.
Post by: Bender on October 18, 2019, 09:14:19 AM
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points
What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft? Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?
Of course, it is early.
There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success. Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.
Probably doesn't hurt that he's super young from the D+1 class. I mean he was just days away from being draft eligible in 2020.
Just looking at other players he's the youngest on the goal leader board apart from Quinton Byfield who's looking to be the #1 pick in 2020. Arthur Kaliyev is also killing it from last year's draft but he had an insane point total last year already. Nick's brother Jason also had great point totals last year and is having a good start in the A. Hopefully there's some pedigree there. It's encouraging for sure, and it sounds to me like Nick isn't just a goal scorer but is a heart and soul type player. I'm hoping that all that put together translates to him being an NHLer.
Post by: Zee on October 18, 2019, 09:32:01 AM
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points
What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft? Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?
Of course, it is early.
There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success. Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.
Probably doesn't hurt that he's super young from the D+1 class. I mean he was just days away from being draft eligible in 2020.
Just looking at other players he's the youngest on the goal leader board apart from Quinton Byfield who's looking to be the #1 pick in 2020. Arthur Kaliyev is also killing it from last year's draft but he had an insane point total last year already. Nick's brother Jason also had great point totals last year and is having a good start in the A. Hopefully there's some pedigree there. It's encouraging for sure, and it sounds to me like Nick isn't just a goal scorer but is a heart and soul type player. I'm hoping that all that put together translates to him being an NHLer.
For sure it's encouraging. If he was plodding along as a 4th liner with 2 points we wouldn't even be talking about him.
Post by: herman on October 18, 2019, 09:42:52 AM
We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).
* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.
Post by: princedpw on October 18, 2019, 10:03:32 AM
He's a smaller Trevor Moore*, but with better skating at a younger age and a wicked pair of shots in the toolbox (snap n' slap). The motor will translate, the nose for the net will translate (he just has to build some bulk over the next couple of years), the play away from the puck needs a bit of refinement still.
We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).
* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.
So, realistically, what we are hoping for is a 3rd liner if everything pans out?
Post by: L K on October 18, 2019, 10:12:10 AM
He's a smaller Trevor Moore*, but with better skating at a younger age and a wicked pair of shots in the toolbox (snap n' slap). The motor will translate, the nose for the net will translate (he just has to build some bulk over the next couple of years), the play away from the puck needs a bit of refinement still.
We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).
* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.
So, realistically, what we are hoping for is a 3rd liner if everything pans out?
Robertson has better offensive skills so he could play up in the lineup if those pan out in the NHL.
Post by: herman on October 18, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
He's a different flavour of the type of player Dubas has clearly favoured on the wings since he's had personnel control: plug and play players because they are fast/agile, smart as a base, and some standout strength to build off of.
Because of his skating, playstyle, and pitbull mentality regarding puck retrieval, he's an NHLer at minimum. He trains with Gary Roberts if you're wondering whether this tiny person can eventually put on the muscle to play this way. His shooting ability can push him top 6 depending on team's depth on LW at the time.
If you're looking at his draft year numbers and wondering why it's a bit underwhelming: Peterborough was garbage as a team and Robertson started the year injured (wrist) and mostly played the season in spite of it (for the draft).
Post by: herman on October 24, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 brings us within 2 after SDA picks up a turnover! 4-2 Sting.#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/XrtFLnzUMA
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 25, 2019
1G 1A on the night so far
Post by: Bender on October 24, 2019, 10:53:59 PM
Middle-six offensive winger that could be plugged into any line as both the digger and finisher.I think the weight and strength thing isnt an issue. He's 17, I think he's got a thick frame. He could be stout but stocky like Brad Marchand.
He's a different flavour of the type of player Dubas has clearly favoured on the wings since he's had personnel control: plug and play players because they are fast/agile, smart as a base, and some standout strength to build off of.
Because of his skating, playstyle, and pitbull mentality regarding puck retrieval, he's an NHLer at minimum. He trains with Gary Roberts if you're wondering whether this tiny person can eventually put on the muscle to play this way. His shooting ability can push him top 6 depending on team's depth on LW at the time.
If you're looking at his draft year numbers and wondering why it's a bit underwhelming: Peterborough was garbage as a team and Robertson started the year injured (wrist) and mostly played the season in spite of it (for the draft).
Post by: herman on October 26, 2019, 09:19:11 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 with a slick toe drag, and the puck bounces past Ranger on the power play! @chis_decs with the lone helper on the marker.#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/wGj8eqDF0Y
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 27, 2019
ROBBY TIMES TWO! @nickrob2001 buries his second of the game and league-leading 15th of the season to extend our lead to 5-2! @kirky_1424 with a nice dish to Robby for the assist.#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/0J0SzyKeoY
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 27, 2019
🎩🎩🎩ROBBY HAT TRICK!!!🎩🎩🎩 A little give and go with SDA sees @nickrob2001 undress Ranger for his THIRD of the night - shorthanded! 7-2 Petes! pic.twitter.com/ddNIGPyrtC
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) October 27, 2019
Post by: herman on October 31, 2019, 10:52:49 AM
Robertson: 14 GP | 16G 9A 25Pts | 5PPG 3PPA 1SHG 0SHA | 63 Shots
Der-Arguchintsev: 12 GP | 2G 20A 22Pts | 0PPG 6PPA 0SHG 1SHA | 19 Shots
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 31, 2019, 11:06:44 AM
Here's where the Peterbro Bros stand currently, counting stats-wise:
Robertson: 14 GP | 16G 9A 25Pts | 5PPG 3PPA 1SHG 0SHA | 63 Shots
Der-Arguchintsev: 12 GP | 2G 20A 22Pts | 0PPG 6PPA 0SHG 1SHA | 19 Shots
That puts Roberston in a tie for the OHL lead in goals with Arthur Kaliyev, although Robertson's done it in 2 less games.
SDA is in a tie for 2nd in the league in assists. He's 2 assists shy from the league leader but he's played 4 less games than him.
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 31, 2019, 11:32:41 AM
Post by: herman on October 31, 2019, 11:39:27 AM
That puts Roberston in a tie for the OHL lead in goals with Arthur Kaliyev, although Robertson's done it in 2 less games.
Kaliyev is shooting 18% at the moment with ridiculous volume (88 shots on goal in 16 games). Robertson is shooting 25%.
Post by: herman on November 04, 2019, 10:49:24 AM
Robertson: 16 GP | 19G 9A 28Pts | 6PPG 3PPA 1SHG 0SHA | 73 Shots
Der-Arguchintsev: 14 GP | 3G 22A 25Pts | 1PPG 6PPA 0SHG 1SHA | 20 Shots
SDA took one shot on goal this weekend (two games) and it was a powerplay goal.
Post by: Zee on November 04, 2019, 10:51:28 AM
*yawn
Robertson: 16 GP | 19G 9A 28Pts | 6PPG 3PPA 1SHG 0SHA | 73 Shots
Der-Arguchintsev: 14 GP | 3G 22A 25Pts | 1PPG 6PPA 0SHG 1SHA | 20 Shots
SDA took one shot on goal this weekend (two games) and it was a powerplay goal.
SDA: Special Delivery Arguchintsev !
Post by: herman on November 04, 2019, 10:57:27 AM
Post by: Frank E on November 04, 2019, 11:25:39 AM
*yawn
Robertson: 16 GP | 19G 9A 28Pts | 6PPG 3PPA 1SHG 0SHA | 73 Shots
Der-Arguchintsev: 14 GP | 3G 22A 25Pts | 1PPG 6PPA 0SHG 1SHA | 20 Shots
SDA took one shot on goal this weekend (two games) and it was a powerplay goal.
He might lead the league in fewest shots per minute of ice-time.
I know it goes without saying, but Der-Arguchintsev really needs to learn how to shoot the puck if he wants to go anywhere further than the O.
Post by: herman on November 09, 2019, 08:16:11 AM
SAMMY! SDA extends the lead to 4-1 with a laser! Chalk up another apple for @chis_decs!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/D7JU4ed6Qb
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) November 9, 2019
You’d think with his selectiveness that he’d only shoot for empty net tap ins...
Post by: sickbeast on November 09, 2019, 05:58:45 PM
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
This is good news. When do you guys think this guy will make it up to the big club? Next season?Robertson is 2 to 3 years away, I would think SDA is at least 3 to 4. Both could be Marlies next year or Growlers.
Post by: herman on November 09, 2019, 06:22:56 PM
Post by: Guilt Trip on November 09, 2019, 07:36:40 PM
That's probably likely but we just don't know when either will be ready.This is good news. When do you guys think this guy will make it up to the big club? Next season?Robertson is 2 to 3 years away, I would think SDA is at least 3 to 4. Both could be Marlies next year or Growlers.
Post by: Highlander on November 10, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
They are a year apart and the CHL dictates they can’t move to AHL or ECHL until 20.Oh ya I forgot they were 12 and 13
Post by: herman on November 11, 2019, 02:40:17 PM
Post by: herman on November 14, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
1 G and 5 A in 4 games.
Post by: herman on December 05, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
ROBBY! After missing 10 games, @nickrob2001 buries a @kirky_1424 and SDA rebound to get us back in front! 2-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/ucjOw0aYVP
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) December 6, 2019
Oh hello
Post by: herman on December 22, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
USA beat Sweden 5-4 in a pre-tournament game today. Last one for SWE, USA has one left. Nick Robertson (TOR) and Philip Broberg (EDM) selected as players of the game. pic.twitter.com/rZt3rA2Nlt
— Corey Pronman (@coreypronman) December 22, 2019
3 pt day for Robertson in a tournament tune up comeback win.
Post by: Guilt Trip on December 22, 2019, 04:51:44 PM
SDA is 1st in assists, 2nd in A/PG, 22nd in P/PG.
Not too shabby. Looking forward to seeing Robertson play in a few days.
Post by: Bill_Berg on December 22, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
Post by: Bill_Berg on December 23, 2019, 06:31:22 AM
I got tickets to a Pete's game in Guelph so I could see him play. Looking forward to that!
Annnnd he'll be at the WJC. Oh well, still be fun.
Post by: herman on December 28, 2019, 09:11:26 AM
Nick Robertson goal thread:
— Tate Harris (@tateharris9) December 28, 2019
Here is the first of many. #OHL #WorldJuniors pic.twitter.com/xBUScVPaZD
Who is this #19 kid that keeps feeding Robertson #16 with silky sauce?
Post by: OldTimeHockey on December 28, 2019, 10:46:40 AM
Post by: herman on December 30, 2019, 01:55:50 PM
Robertson with a slick little pass from behind the net to Pinto. Second time on the PP Robertson walked the puck from left side of the ice to the right like this--found an opening this time: pic.twitter.com/lYvtf9rLoa
— mostly want to die (@mostlyleafies) December 30, 2019
Can you imagine a PP structure where the playmakers move laterally instead of working out of a single lane?
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 30, 2019, 02:40:44 PM
Robertson with a slick little pass from behind the net to Pinto. Second time on the PP Robertson walked the puck from left side of the ice to the right like this--found an opening this time: pic.twitter.com/lYvtf9rLoa
— mostly want to die (@mostlyleafies) December 30, 2019
Can you imagine a PP structure where the playmakers move laterally instead of working out of a single lane?
No because it's against the rules.
Post by: dekedastardly on January 01, 2020, 11:10:57 PM
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 09, 2020, 11:07:18 AM
Post by: herman on January 09, 2020, 11:18:39 AM
Cam Butler and four draft picks going back to Niagara. https://t.co/BcFsVr5vdZ
— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) January 9, 2020
Edit: Dreger phrases this like he was the one that convinced Thomas to waive his NTC.
Edit 2: Dreger just copied and pasted what the agent texted him.
Edit 3: Dreger is his agent.
Post by: herman on January 09, 2020, 01:27:13 PM
Post by: Hobbes on January 09, 2020, 01:33:28 PM
Edit 4: Dreger is now in Twitter beef with @OHLInsiders
/me makes popcorn
Post by: herman on January 09, 2020, 01:49:28 PM
Post by: bustaheims on January 09, 2020, 04:42:34 PM
Post by: herman on January 10, 2020, 07:26:34 AM
Post by: Bender on January 11, 2020, 10:04:06 PM
Robertson is back from the WJC and promptly scored two goals to maintain and exceed his goal per game pace. 25 g in 24 gpCan he do the junior rocket Richard??
Post by: herman on January 11, 2020, 10:09:14 PM
This is an extremely junior goalROBBY! @nickrob2001 beats Andree five-hole to get the Petes on the board! The new guys @AkilThomas2 and Jack York connect for the assists - their first points in Maroon and White! 1-0 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/fBs04r8Ma9
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) January 12, 2020
Post by: herman on January 12, 2020, 07:33:34 PM
ROBBY!! @j_paquette6 dumps the puck into the zone for @AkilThomas2 who dishes to @nickrob2001 in front for a rip past Kooy! We're back within 1! 3-2 Generals.#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/tTR8m2jIVj
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) January 13, 2020
Invalid Tweet IDGoal #5 for Der Arguchintsev
Post by: Bender on January 12, 2020, 08:22:07 PM
Akil Thomas is in on a few of these already.ROBBY!! @j_paquette6 dumps the puck into the zone for @AkilThomas2 who dishes to @nickrob2001 in front for a rip past Kooy! We're back within 1! 3-2 Generals.#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/tTR8m2jIVj
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) January 13, 2020
Invalid Tweet IDGoal #5 for Der Arguchintsev
Post by: herman on January 20, 2020, 07:03:06 AM
En route to a 9-2 rout.Here’s SDA and Nick Robertson toying with an entire team for the full length of the ice. #Leafs pic.twitter.com/Erihk5pzKw
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) January 20, 2020
Robertson: 28 GP | 31G 16A 47pts
Der-Arguchintsev: 39GP | 7G 49A 56Pts
Post by: herman on February 01, 2020, 10:42:33 PM
ROBBY! 3-1 Petes as @nickrob2001 buries a BEAUTY short-handed marker. He extends his goal-scoring streak to 11 games, which is the longest in the #OHL this season. #GoPetesGo #PInkInTheRink https://t.co/2BYrWSu20g pic.twitter.com/N5ol1Pn0qc
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 2, 2020
Just a reminder that Robertson is the youngest person in the Leafs org other than Martina. He was five days away from being eligible for the 2020 draft.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 01, 2020, 10:47:22 PM
Post by: Deebo on February 01, 2020, 10:48:58 PM
ROBBY! 3-1 Petes as @nickrob2001 buries a BEAUTY short-handed marker. He extends his goal-scoring streak to 11 games, which is the longest in the #OHL this season. #GoPetesGo #PInkInTheRink https://t.co/2BYrWSu20g pic.twitter.com/N5ol1Pn0qc
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 2, 2020
Just a reminder that Robertson is the youngest person in the Leafs org other than Martina. He was five days away from being eligible for the 2020 draft.
That 38G 19A for 57P in 34 games, he had 55P in 54 games last year.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 01, 2020, 11:05:24 PM
That 38G 19A for 57P in 34 games, he had 55P in 54 games last year.
And SDA has absolutely blown by his point totals from last season. He had 46 points in 62 games then, 61 points in 45 games now.
Almost mirror image hah. Kinda hope he gets just 1 point in his next game.
Post by: herman on February 02, 2020, 05:37:21 AM
Post by: Bender on February 02, 2020, 11:01:51 AM
The primary change was Robertson as a rookie deferred to his teammates (who weren’t that good) and then after Leafs dev camp this year decided to just shoot more because he knew he could beat Junior goaltending from just about anywhere. The goals are getting the attention but his work drive continues to be what will translate to NHL success. I can see him on a line with a speedy pass-first centre like Kerfoot next next season if he can build up more strength.That soon? Not sure if I buy that. His brother is taking time developing, although Jason had a better draft year, he didn't have the same D+1 breakout vs draft year.
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 02, 2020, 12:13:49 PM
Highly unlikely but you never know with these kids. No one has scored at this rate in over 12 years. I didn't look any further then that. Man he and SDA are so young.The primary change was Robertson as a rookie deferred to his teammates (who weren’t that good) and then after Leafs dev camp this year decided to just shoot more because he knew he could beat Junior goaltending from just about anywhere. The goals are getting the attention but his work drive continues to be what will translate to NHL success. I can see him on a line with a speedy pass-first centre like Kerfoot next next season if he can build up more strength.That soon? Not sure if I buy that. His brother is taking time developing, although Jason had a better draft year, he didn't have the same D+1 breakout vs draft year.
Post by: Highlander on February 02, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 02, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
He can take a year with the Marlies, good for him, good for the Marlies.He can't play with the Marlies next year. Leafs or OHL. He'll only be 19 come Sept.
Post by: princedpw on February 02, 2020, 02:33:30 PM
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 02, 2020, 05:12:34 PM
Could he go the Auston Matthews route and play in Europe for a year?Yup, he can go there.
Post by: herman on February 06, 2020, 09:33:05 PM
He’s tied for the league lead in goals again with 41, even after playing 10 fewer games than fellow leader Jack Quinn. He has scored in 13 straight games.
Leafs prospect Nick Robertson currently has the eighth highest goals per game in OHL history. Third highest behind Eric Lindros and Tony Tanti for players 18 years old or younger.
— Corwin (@corwinmc) February 7, 2020
Also wtf John Tavares scored 72 goals when he was 16 lol pic.twitter.com/pj51QGUHvE
Post by: herman on February 16, 2020, 07:09:57 AM
Nick Robertson’s 2-goal night gives him 44 goals in 36 games. He just needs 6 goals in his next 14 games to go 50 in 50 #OHL
— Future Of The Six (@FutureOfTheSix) February 16, 2020
Nick took a break from scoring the other day to rest his goal streak 14 games). Kicked up a new one last night probably; point streak continues at 17 games. The tweet should read 44 in 39 games. 6 goals in his next 11 games will give him 50/50 but he’s on track to exceed that.
Post by: herman on February 17, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
ROBBY! @nickrob2001 manages to stay onside before ripping a wrist shot past Purboo! We're tied at 1!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/yNT7TpeCYb
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 17, 2020
ROBBY'S RACKIN' EM UP! @zachgally drops the pass for
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 17, 2020
@nickrob2001 who releases an absolute laser to beat Purboo for his 46th of the year! @mattmcnamara23 gets the second helper. 3-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/5rSZtMAwC3
Post by: Bender on February 17, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
Its so interesting to me that he's doing what he's doing at his age when he was days away from being born after the cut off and would be putting numbers like this up in his draft year. I'm really hoping he comes through as a player for us.ROBBY! @nickrob2001 manages to stay onside before ripping a wrist shot past Purboo! We're tied at 1!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/yNT7TpeCYb
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 17, 2020ROBBY'S RACKIN' EM UP! @zachgally drops the pass for
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) February 17, 2020
@nickrob2001 who releases an absolute laser to beat Purboo for his 46th of the year! @mattmcnamara23 gets the second helper. 3-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/5rSZtMAwC3
Post by: herman on February 17, 2020, 07:16:38 PM
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 17, 2020, 10:48:43 PM
I’m a bit worried about the gaudy goal numbers (at the same time celebrating it) because a lot of these are Juniory goals. Just an overpowering shot at this level that he can just launch it from weakly contested ice. It’s got deception and juice, no doubt, but it’s not Auston Matthews. He has lots of projectable skills though, as he is speedy and greasy and extremely willing.I get the hesitation to go overboard with praise but let it be what it is. We have no idea if this can translate to the NHL level. We don't even know if he'll even make the big show for sure, chances are yes. However no one has scored at a better pace then Nick in 15+ years. The biggest things for me are... He's tied for 17th in games played on his team, yet leading in goals and points. It took him just 32 games to do what he did in 54 last year points wise and just 23 to match his goal output. He's currently at 46 goals in 40 games which actually leads all of the CHL. He's only been goalless in 8 games and pointless in 3. He's leading the OHL in goals, 1 up on Jack Quinn who's played 12 more games. He's only 9th in PPG so he gets a lot at even strength.
He so young. Just think he was 17 at the time of the draft when the Leafs grabbed him. He won't be 19 until Sept. Lots of strength to gain yet. Hope for the best for him.
Sidenote...SDA sits 3rd in assists in the OHL.
Post by: herman on March 01, 2020, 03:54:08 PM
ROBBY! A trademark wrister from @nickrob2001 on the power play gets the Petes on the board! @kirky_1424 and @AkilThomas2 set up the game-tying tally. 1-1!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/U4OmRn1GnA
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) March 1, 2020
48, 49 in game 43 after losing his point streak in game 42.ROBBY! @nickrob2001 with a backhand beauty for goal 49 on the season to give us our first lead of the game! @masonmctavish27 and @david_maier17 combine for the assists. 2-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/8Vr4Spst60
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) March 1, 2020
Post by: Deebo on March 01, 2020, 04:45:23 PM
ROBBY! A trademark wrister from @nickrob2001 on the power play gets the Petes on the board! @kirky_1424 and @AkilThomas2 set up the game-tying tally. 1-1!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/U4OmRn1GnA
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) March 1, 202048, 49 in game 43 after losing his point streak in game 42.ROBBY! @nickrob2001 with a backhand beauty for goal 49 on the season to give us our first lead of the game! @masonmctavish27 and @david_maier17 combine for the assists. 2-1 Petes!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/8Vr4Spst60
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) March 1, 2020
SH goal for #50
Post by: herman on March 01, 2020, 05:08:04 PM
5⃣0⃣ GOALS IN 4⃣3⃣ GAMES
— Peterborough Petes (@PetesOHLhockey) March 1, 2020
@nickrob2001 scores shorthanded, for the hat-trick, to become the first Pete in 27 years to score 50 goals in a season!#GoPetesGo | #LeafsForever pic.twitter.com/JJNSwzJTA7
Post by: Hobbes on March 01, 2020, 05:59:57 PM
I hope even half of his skill translates to the NHL level.
Post by: herman on March 02, 2020, 11:35:34 AM
Nick Robertson went around the horn today.
— /Cam Robinson/ (@Hockey_Robinson) March 1, 2020
• Even-strength goal
• Power-play goal
• Shorthanded goal
He leads the CHL in goals with 50 in just 43 games.
There were zero reasons he should've been sitting there on Day Two of the draft. https://t.co/3MbfXZmtg2
An empty-netter away from the cycle.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 02, 2020, 11:45:06 AM
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 02, 2020, 11:47:06 AM
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 02, 2020, 11:51:42 AM
Just to compare him to another undersized but prolific goal scorer who also inexplicably dropped to the 2nd round of his draft year: Alex DeBrincat scored 65 goals in 63 games in his draft+1 season. So Robertson is outpacing him in goals by a decent bit. DeBrincat has a pretty big advantage in assists though.Never understood why he dropped to the 2nd round. Watched him play and although he was small, he was awesome. He's not having a very good year this year though, goal wise.
Post by: herman on March 08, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
Post by: herman on March 31, 2020, 12:14:29 PM
Kyle Dubas on prospect Nick Robertson: Come training camp, we'll give him every opportunity to make the team.
— Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) March 31, 2020
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 31, 2020, 12:18:44 PM
1st in Best Shot
1st in Most Dangerous in Goal Area
2nd in Hardest Worker
2nd in Best Stickhandler
2nd in Best Shootout Shooter
3rd in Hardest Shot
I'll let it slide because of Covid, I guess.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 31, 2020, 12:27:58 PM
Fun fact: Nick Robertson's 1.20 goals-per-game this season was the most we've seen from a U19 OHLer in the last 28 years.
— /Cam Robinson/ (@Hockey_Robinson) March 31, 2020
He trails only Eric Lindros (1.24) for most ever in OHL history. https://t.co/b3Wanb1PTm
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 31, 2020, 12:32:09 PM
The kid looks like he has a great shot at making it next season. Leafs will need young, cheap talent.Fun fact: Nick Robertson's 1.20 goals-per-game this season was the most we've seen from a U19 OHLer in the last 28 years.
— /Cam Robinson/ (@Hockey_Robinson) March 31, 2020
He trails only Eric Lindros (1.24) for most ever in OHL history. https://t.co/b3Wanb1PTm
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 31, 2020, 12:39:03 PM
The kid looks like he has a great shot at making it next season. Leafs will need young, cheap talent.
Right now we still likely have Hyman, Johnsson, Mikheyev, and Engvall on the left side. Petan and Agostino are both signed as well for depth, and Clifford may or may not be returning. If cap concerns (and of course who knows what's happening there) force a Johnsson trade then I could see Robertson getting a very close look in the top 6. Otherwise it would seem a little unlikely, especially considering how young he is even for a D+2 player.
Post by: herman on March 31, 2020, 01:00:18 PM
herman you really dropped the ball on announcing Robertson's results in this seasons Eastern Conference OHL coaches poll:
1st in Best Shot
1st in Most Dangerous in Goal Area
2nd in Hardest Worker
2nd in Best Stickhandler
2nd in Best Shootout Shooter
3rd in Hardest Shot
I'll let it slide because of Covid, I guess.
I'm fortunate enough to be able to WFH, and for some reason I'm doing far more work at home than I do in the office.
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev picked up (a distant) #2 for Best Playmaker
Post by: herman on March 31, 2020, 01:46:27 PM
"Confidence is key in this day and age of hockey, and I had tons of it this year."@MapleLeafs prospect @nickrob2001 reflects on his 55-goal #OHL season with @PetesOHLhockey.
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) March 31, 2020
READ 🗞️: https://t.co/E3k7xpV07A pic.twitter.com/OcMjen9dad
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Robertson’s stint at the Leafs’ development camp presented him with areas to improve on – his defensive play, his shot, and his hydration were a few – and that’s where the expectation stemmed from. He put in extra workouts at night before bed. He studied video footage more closely. He stayed on the ice longer than usual, working on his shot. He put way more hours into hockey than he had before, and if you ask him, that’s what separated him this season.
“Those little things, putting in more recovery during the weekend, finding ways to recover fast in between periods, improving my nutrition, really made a difference,” he said.
Post by: Pick on April 01, 2020, 11:20:13 AM
Post by: herman on April 13, 2020, 10:12:43 AM
Nick Robertson has been surpassing expectations pretty much his entire life. After a 55-goal season, Toronto’s 2019 second-round pick is ESPN’s Prospect of the Year. More on him and the rest of the 2019-20 All-Prospect Team https://t.co/CQ8jDrC3Wt (E+)
— Chris Peters (@chrismpeters) April 13, 2020
Post by: herman on May 19, 2020, 09:40:37 PM
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“Practice is a business for me. Working out is a business for me. Sleeping is a business for me. Everything I do is for a reason,” said Robertson.
[...]
“Some guys come into this league and have a good time,” said Robertson. “But I’m here as a temporary stop. This is just the car to get me to the NHL. Let’s put it that way.”
[...]
When he’s not practising his shot, Robertson now spends his days trying to increase his mobility and strength. He’s asked if the workout plan he’s following was provided to him by the Leafs or the Petes.
“It’s all the Maple Leafs,” said Robertson.
He’s trying to figure out where he fits in the Leafs possession-heavy system. He asked his agency to send him video detailing how the Leafs’ system functions.
He appreciates how much stock the Leafs place on video analysis as well. He recalls being asked strange questions by NHL teams at the 2019 NHL draft combine, including one around whether he would share water with a person if it meant they would both die together, or whether he would keep the water for himself, live, and watch the other person die.
But the Leafs, as Robertson recalled, were the only team that based their entire combine interview with him on his reaction to video clips of Marlies and Leafs games. He was asked what he thought should happen next in different plays.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 19, 2020, 10:10:29 PM
Post by: Nik on May 20, 2020, 12:22:54 AM
Robertson being ready and enabling the team to move one or maybe two of Johnsson, Kapanen or Kerfoot would be a huge boon.
Post by: OldTimeHockey on May 20, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
https://theathletic.com/1814091/2020/05/19/im-ready-right-now-nick-robertson-says-hes-ready-to-join-the-maple-leafs/Quote“Practice is a business for me. Working out is a business for me. Sleeping is a business for me. Everything I do is for a reason,” said Robertson.
[...]
“Some guys come into this league and have a good time,” said Robertson. “But I’m here as a temporary stop. This is just the car to get me to the NHL. Let’s put it that way.”
[...]
When he’s not practising his shot, Robertson now spends his days trying to increase his mobility and strength. He’s asked if the workout plan he’s following was provided to him by the Leafs or the Petes.
“It’s all the Maple Leafs,” said Robertson.
He’s trying to figure out where he fits in the Leafs possession-heavy system. He asked his agency to send him video detailing how the Leafs’ system functions.
He appreciates how much stock the Leafs place on video analysis as well. He recalls being asked strange questions by NHL teams at the 2019 NHL draft combine, including one around whether he would share water with a person if it meant they would both die together, or whether he would keep the water for himself, live, and watch the other person die.
But the Leafs, as Robertson recalled, were the only team that based their entire combine interview with him on his reaction to video clips of Marlies and Leafs games. He was asked what he thought should happen next in different plays.
I love his intensity. All business.
Post by: herman on May 21, 2020, 08:50:05 AM
https://jhanhky.substack.com/p/semyon-der-arguchintsev-the-little
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On the ice SDA is already no longer a child. He plays with the cunning of a desert fox, creating multiple options and massaging passes where defenders least suspect. He is sneaky on defense, floating high at times but tracking hard to lift a stick and steal the puck when it mattered. His hand skills are noteworthy but his greatest asset is foresight. No one else on the ice sees the play developing as quickly. He figures things out in the parallel universe in which he inhabits, then works backward to execute the right play in real life.
[...]
SDA can see the future, but will he ever be fast, strong or focused enough to mold it in his favor? The answer so far might disappoint him.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2020, 01:01:06 PM
Nick Robertson will be included in the #leafs expanded playoff roster, according to Kyle Dubas.
— Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) May 27, 2020
Kyle Dubas confirms Nick Robertson will be part of the Leafs expanded roster when / if play resumes.
— James Mirtle (@mirtle) May 27, 2020
Nick Robertson will be part of #Leafs' expanded roster, Dubas says. Has already returned to Toronto and is quarantining.
— Terry Koshan (@koshtorontosun) May 27, 2020
Dubas says Nick Robertson is already quarantining in Ontario. Will be part of Leafs' expanded roster and practice groups.
— luke fox (@lukefoxjukebox) May 27, 2020
Nick Robertson will be on the Leafs extended roster. He's flown in from L.A. and is quarantining.
— Lance Hornby (@sunhornby) May 27, 2020
Dubas said Nick Robertson has returned to Toronto, is under quarantine and will be option for Leafs to play in playoffs.
— Joshua Kloke (@joshuakloke) May 27, 2020
Dubas said Nick Robertson has flown back from LA and is in self quarantine. Will be part of the #leafs expanded roster
— Mike Zeisberger (@Zeisberger) May 27, 2020
Nick Robertson has already returned to Ontario, and is in the midst of his 14-day quarantine. Will be part of #Leafs RTP plans as/if they progress.
— Kristen Shilton (@kristen_shilton) May 27, 2020
Sorry not sorry
Post by: Frank E on May 27, 2020, 01:03:21 PM
Post by: herman on May 27, 2020, 01:18:34 PM
Post by: Bender on May 27, 2020, 01:35:10 PM
Especially with Johnsson done for the (extended) year. Now if he gets COVID from this, considering his medical history, I will be suuuuuper pissed.
I still can't believe how bad his injury was. It seemed innocuous to me.
Would Nick have been eligible for call up under normal circumstances if his OHL season came to an end before the playoffs?
Post by: herman on May 27, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
Especially with Johnsson done for the (extended) year. Now if he gets COVID from this, considering his medical history, I will be suuuuuper pissed.
I still can't believe how bad his injury was. It seemed innocuous to me.
Would Nick have been eligible for call up under normal circumstances if his OHL season came to an end before the playoffs?
Yes. He was on the reserve list before the trade deadline. Provided we did not expend all our non-emergency call-ups (4) on AHL resources prior.
Post by: bustaheims on May 27, 2020, 03:22:09 PM
Yes. He was on the reserve list before the trade deadline. Provided we did not expend all our non-emergency call-ups (4) on AHL resources prior.
Unless Robertson was on a PTO w/ the Marlies, I don't think he'd count against the non-emergency call-ups. Once a player's season is over with their non-NHL team, they're no longer bound by the 4 call-up limit.
Post by: herman on May 27, 2020, 03:41:27 PM
Yes. He was on the reserve list before the trade deadline. Provided we did not expend all our non-emergency call-ups (4) on AHL resources prior.
Unless Robertson was on a PTO w/ the Marlies, I don't think he'd count against the non-emergency call-ups. Once a player's season is over with their non-NHL team, they're no longer bound by the 4 call-up limit.
O rly... He'd be PTO'd on the Leafs then and not a 'call-up' right?
Post by: bustaheims on May 27, 2020, 04:32:35 PM
Yes. He was on the reserve list before the trade deadline. Provided we did not expend all our non-emergency call-ups (4) on AHL resources prior.
Unless Robertson was on a PTO w/ the Marlies, I don't think he'd count against the non-emergency call-ups. Once a player's season is over with their non-NHL team, they're no longer bound by the 4 call-up limit.
O rly... He'd be PTO'd on the Leafs then and not a 'call-up' right?
No, he'd be a call-up, just not an AHL call-up. Can't play for the NHL team on a PTO.
Post by: herman on May 27, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
Yes. He was on the reserve list before the trade deadline. Provided we did not expend all our non-emergency call-ups (4) on AHL resources prior.
Unless Robertson was on a PTO w/ the Marlies, I don't think he'd count against the non-emergency call-ups. Once a player's season is over with their non-NHL team, they're no longer bound by the 4 call-up limit.
O rly... He'd be PTO'd on the Leafs then and not a 'call-up' right?
No, he'd be a call-up, just not an AHL call-up. Can't play for the NHL team on a PTO.
Oh right. He has an ELC. What else can I continue to say that is wrong.
Post by: herman on May 27, 2020, 07:50:09 PM
Kyle Dubas clarifies on @timandsid that Nick Robertson will join Maple Leafs to train with the NHL group in phases 2 and 3 of return. Anything beyond that, the 18-year-old must earn.
— luke fox (@lukefoxjukebox) May 27, 2020
Duh but also boo hiss
Post by: Bender on May 30, 2020, 02:20:07 PM
Kyle Dubas clarifies on @timandsid that Nick Robertson will join Maple Leafs to train with the NHL group in phases 2 and 3 of return. Anything beyond that, the 18-year-old must earn.
— luke fox (@lukefoxjukebox) May 27, 2020
Duh but also boo hiss
I'm really amped to see what he brings. Really hoping he can replace Johnsson.
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on June 04, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
Nick Robertson named Canadian Hockey League Sportsman of the Year. #Leafs
— Terry Koshan (@koshtorontosun) June 4, 2020
This kind of surprises me. I guess I had just incorrectly assumed that Robertson had a bit of a ratty edge in him because of how tenacious he is on the ice.
Post by: Bender on June 05, 2020, 08:14:20 AM
Yeah for sure. I read an article in the Athletic where he says to him this is business, so maybe he doesn't take things personally and get upset etc and just plays his game. Also maybe he deserved an award for his season but couldn't give him something more substantialNick Robertson named Canadian Hockey League Sportsman of the Year. #Leafs
— Terry Koshan (@koshtorontosun) June 4, 2020
This kind of surprises me. I guess I had just incorrectly assumed that Robertson had a bit of a ratty edge in him because of how tenacious he is on the ice.
Post by: RedLeaf on June 05, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
Kyle Dubas clarifies on @timandsid that Nick Robertson will join Maple Leafs to train with the NHL group in phases 2 and 3 of return. Anything beyond that, the 18-year-old must earn.
— luke fox (@lukefoxjukebox) May 27, 2020
Duh but also boo hiss
I'm really amped to see what he brings. Really hoping he can replace Johnsson.
If he can replace Johnsson and in a big way, this could be one hell of an exciting run if they ever get clearance to play that is .
Post by: Nik on November 26, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
Just an article about Robertson missing Thanksgiving this year that contained this tidbit which, if I knew before I'd forgotten:
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It?s particularly difficult today. Nick is the family?s miracle baby after being born three months premature and getting saved by a do-or-die shot that allowed oxygen to reach his brain and lungs. He arrived on Sept. 11, 2001 but didn?t leave hospital until more than two months later -- coming home for the first time on U.S. Thanksgiving.
Yikes, I'm old.
Post by: OldTimeHockey on November 26, 2020, 11:43:46 AM
[url]https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-restricted-free-agents-best-rfa-contract-extension-rumours-2020/
Just an article about Robertson missing Thanksgiving this year that contained this tidbit which, if I knew before I'd forgotten:
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It?s particularly difficult today. Nick is the family?s miracle baby after being born three months premature and getting saved by a do-or-die shot that allowed oxygen to reach his brain and lungs. He arrived on Sept. 11, 2001 but didn?t leave hospital until more than two months later -- coming home for the first time on U.S. Thanksgiving.
Yikes, I'm old.
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Born on 9/11 of all days too
Post by: herman on November 26, 2020, 12:41:07 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/)
Just an article about Robertson missing Thanksgiving this year that contained this tidbit which, if I knew before I'd forgotten:QuoteIt's particularly difficult today. Nick is the family's miracle baby after being born three months premature and getting saved by a do-or-die shot that allowed oxygen to reach his brain and lungs. He arrived on Sept. 11, 2001 but didn't leave hospital until more than two months later -- coming home for the first time on U.S. Thanksgiving.
I was in high school when Nick Robertson was born.
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 26, 2020, 12:54:30 PM
If you had asked me a couple months ago I would have said he's almost a lock. Now, I'm not as sure. While we undoubtedly lost some forward depth this offseason in Kapanen and Johnsson, we've also brought in bodies in Thornton, Vesey, and Simmonds. If you figure those 3 are locks plus all the regular names, there's only 1 roster spot open for one of: Robertson, Engvall, and Barabanov. Not to mention further depth names like Boyd, Anderson, Petan, Agostino, Malgin. And I think that final spot will mostly go down to either Engvall or Barabanov.
I feel like Barabanov will get every single chance to make the team considering he's been hanging out in Toronto all offseason instead of playing in the KHL. That just simply wouldn't be happening if he was pegged to start in the AHL. And if he blows that golden opportunity I think Engvall will be next in line considering he already looked like a NHLer last season.
The other factor making me re-think his status is the fact that he's barely played hockey in almost a calendar year. That's true for most of the team of course but I really don't think that's an ideal way for a 19-year old to start his NHL career.
It sucks because that article makes it clear he's working his butt off to be a NHL player this season and he really has nothing left to prove in the OHL, but I'm just not sure it's in the cards this season.
Post by: Nik on November 26, 2020, 12:58:17 PM
Honestly, I think it's up to him and his development. If he looks so good that keeping him off the team would be making the team worse, I don't think the Leafs are good enough where they can make that decision. I don't think Jimmy Vesey is enough of a player to keep him down in that situation.
If it's more of a toss-up? I could see them being cautious with him. Especially if he doesn't add a ton to the team outside of scoring punch.
Post by: herman on November 26, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
I feel like Barabanov will get every single chance to make the team considering he's been hanging out in Toronto all offseason instead of playing in the KHL. That just simply wouldn't be happening if he was pegged to start in the AHL.
Per the article, Nicky Bobby did this exact thing too.
I think he also gets every chance to make the team (9-game tryout) as the cap allows (c'mon taxi squad rules) but falls short as we need our bottom-six to be puck holding shutter downers. Unless he comes in with more fire hair than Vesey and supplants a top-6 winger (Mikheyev/Kerfoot), I'm with Nik: I don't see him making the full squad due to the lack of NHL-level versatility.
If the OHL season is cancelled for some reason, do they dispense with the rule and let him (and all other qualified players) be loaned to the AHL?
Post by: OldTimeHockey on November 26, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/)
Just an article about Robertson missing Thanksgiving this year that contained this tidbit which, if I knew before I'd forgotten:QuoteIt's particularly difficult today. Nick is the family's miracle baby after being born three months premature and getting saved by a do-or-die shot that allowed oxygen to reach his brain and lungs. He arrived on Sept. 11, 2001 but didn't leave hospital until more than two months later -- coming home for the first time on U.S. Thanksgiving.
I was in high school when Nick Robertson was born.
I had a 5 year old and a 5 month old
Post by: Deebo on November 26, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/robertson-chasing-leafs-job-means-missing-familys-important-day/)
Just an article about Robertson missing Thanksgiving this year that contained this tidbit which, if I knew before I'd forgotten:QuoteIt's particularly difficult today. Nick is the family's miracle baby after being born three months premature and getting saved by a do-or-die shot that allowed oxygen to reach his brain and lungs. He arrived on Sept. 11, 2001 but didn't leave hospital until more than two months later -- coming home for the first time on U.S. Thanksgiving.
I was in high school when Nick Robertson was born.
It was my first day of undergrad.
Post by: Highlander on November 26, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
Post by: bustaheims on November 26, 2020, 02:01:31 PM
It was my first day of undergrad.
I had just started 2nd year.
Post by: Frank E on November 26, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
And if some way he can play in the AHL, that would be ideal.
I'm older than most of you idiots, I was just getting ready to leave for work when a friend called and told me to turn on the TV.
Post by: Highlander on November 26, 2020, 03:23:50 PM
I think he's on the outside looking in at this point.The strange thing about that morning is that I never turn on the TV in my hotel room before work,as I don't want to be distracted, but for some reason I turned on CNN that morning, I was shaving when I heard the report about a small plane hitting the first tower. I came out to have look at the tube and I said that was no small plane, but a big passenger jet, I had a terrible feeling and called my wife. She turned on her TV just before the 2nd plane went in. Of course everyone shouted "Oh my God".
And if some way he can play in the AHL, that would be ideal.
I'm older than most of you idiots, I was just getting ready to leave for work when a friend called and told me to turn on the TV.
Post by: Bullfrog on November 26, 2020, 06:19:55 PM
If the OHL season is cancelled for some reason, do they dispense with the rule and let him (and all other qualified players) be loaned to the AHL?
I don't even think that's a question; they wouldn't be able to enforce that agreement.