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Title: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 13, 2019, 12:26:02 AM
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46-28-8, 100 points | 49-24-9, 107 points
TOR leads 1-0

Projected Lines

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Kadri-Nylander
Moore-Gauthier-Brown

Rielly-Hainsey
Muzzin-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Dermott

Andersen
             
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Johansson-Krejci-Kuhlman
Heinen-Coyle-Backes
Nordstrom-Acciari-Wagner

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Carlo
Grzelcyk-Clifton

Rask

Scratches

Nic Petan
Tyler Ennis
Martin Marincin
Calle Rosen
Justin Holl
Igor Ozhiganov
Michael Hutchinson
      
Jake DeBrusk
Steven Kampfer     

Game Notes

TOR
ēAndersen (36-16-7, 2.77 GAA, .917 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
ēIt was the Mitch Marner show in game 1 as Boston couldn't find an answer to the high scoring winger

BOS
ēRask (27-13-5, 2.48 GAA, .912 Sv%) will likely start for the Bruins
ēDeBrusk missed Boston's practice on Friday for an undisclosed issue. Cassidy seemed to think he'll be available to play but that needs to be confirmed
ēBackes will get into the line-up if DeBrusk is out, but there's some calling for Boston to play the big and physical winger regardless. Cassidy did reiterate that he wants a fast line-up to play against the Leafs

Injuries

                                                                             
      
ēJohn Moore - Upper Body - Injured Reserve
ēSean Kuraly - Hand - Injured Reserve
ēKevan Miller - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
ēJake DeBrusk - Undisclosed - Questionable Saturday

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 12:42:10 AM
Go Leafs Go....Just win!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on April 13, 2019, 06:22:39 AM
Go Leafs Go!

Cassidy may try to get Bergeron away from Tavares tonight. We'll see how that works out for him.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
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GO LEAFS GO
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown on April 13, 2019, 10:16:51 AM
GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:33:26 AM
Donít try to weather the storm, stick to OUR game, come out flying. I think the start of this game will be spectacular. Babs keep leaning on your best, trust them.

Go Leafs Go!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 12:13:34 PM
G.L.G.

BE LIKE COBLUMBUSS
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Joe S. on April 13, 2019, 12:26:01 PM
Iím a little behind here but is it true that Marchand said ĎI thought it would be easier?í
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
Yep. It was in a larger context, but he definitely said that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 12:32:51 PM
Quote
"I think maybe we thought it was going to be a little easier than it was out there," he told NHL.com's Amalie Benjamin. "We were trying to play too much of a controlled style, where that's not really our game. So we've got to play a little faster."

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1751021 (https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1751021)
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 12:58:43 PM
Those forward lines look terrible without DeBrusk.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: disco on April 13, 2019, 01:52:21 PM
Hymie-Johnny-Mitchy
Mango-Matty-Kappy
Patty-Nazzy-Willy
Moorsy-Goat-Brownie

Mo-Hains
Muzz-Zee
Gards-Dermy

Freddie

Go Leafs Go.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: louisstamos on April 13, 2019, 02:26:29 PM
Go Leafs Go!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 02:36:05 PM
So whats the deal with Marcus Johansson? Is he just not that good anymore?

Also hearing DeBrusk and Backes are in the lineup... Hoping Backes is as fast as Derian Hatcher.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 02:58:05 PM
So whats the deal with Marcus Johansson? Is he just not that good anymore?

Also hearing DeBrusk and Backes are in the lineup... Hoping Backes is as fast as Derian Hatcher.

He hasnít been that great since getting concussed by... *checks notes*... Brad Marchand.

They say the Leafs leaned into their goal scoring identity by picking up Tavares. The Bruins leaned into theirs with Johansson and Coyle as checking forwards.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: RedLeaf on April 13, 2019, 03:05:37 PM
Hymie-Johnny-Mitchy
Mango-Matty-Kappy
Patty-Nazzy-Willy
Moorsy-Goat-Brownie

Mo-Hains
Muzz-Zee
Gards-Dermy

Freddie

Go Leafs Go.

Well done Disco-y
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on April 13, 2019, 03:07:12 PM
i thought I heard at one point that gardiner may be questionable?  is he definitely playing?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
i thought I heard at one point that gardiner may be questionable?  is he definitely playing?


Siegel said no line up changes.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 05:20:00 PM
GO LEAFS GO!!!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 13, 2019, 06:29:38 PM
NBC is showcasing this game tonight.

GO LEAFS GO!!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 06:43:11 PM
As was game 1, I will be Zen tonight regardless of outcome.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 06:57:20 PM
Might as well go ahead and come out strong.  Win this one and head back to Toronto. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:05:44 PM
We get to watch replays of the Marner's PS goal the rest of our lives.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:17:28 PM
The most blatant interference in the world isnít called.  These stinking refs wonít call it fair. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:18:06 PM
Hyman interferes with trying to get into a scoring opportunity.   Hopefully this isnít a sign of things to come
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:19:12 PM
Andersen run into in the crease with no call
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:19:38 PM
Leaf just let 2 on 3 develop into a 2 on 1 because I donít know. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:22:12 PM
Bruins should have 3 penalties already. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:22:50 PM
Eesh awful start but it certainly has been helped by Boston getting to do whatever they want on the ice
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:23:01 PM
Oops on the Muzz there.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:23:27 PM
BOS 1-0.  They've come to play tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
Didnít match the bruins effort to start.  They knew it was coming and didnít match. 

Letís go now.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:25:26 PM
BOS 1-0.  They've come to play tonight.
Yup. Seems to make Hughson happy lol.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:25:35 PM
High hit on Hyman
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:26:54 PM
Bruins are really on their ass tonight this does not bode well.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:27:16 PM
Matthews line needs to start bringing it.   Spending lots of time in their own zone. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 08:27:20 PM
Bad start but Muzzin could have stopped that.  Also call a penalty on Boston ffs.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:28:40 PM
They're weathering the storm OK so far.  But they have to start possessing the puck.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:34:46 PM
Marner magic on display there.  Now I want to see Matthews take it up a level.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 08:35:31 PM
If they can get through this period only down a goal, I'll be happy. Need to match that Boston intensity out of the gate though. Seemed to be caught a bit by surprise.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:35:59 PM
They're weathering the storm OK so far.  But they have to start possessing the puck.
Yup. Things will calm down and the Leafs can hopefully get it going.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:37:24 PM
I swear to god if that's not a penalty
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
These refs are straight up cheating. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:37:43 PM
How the Frig is that 4v4???? Kadri literally did nothing!!!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:37:44 PM
DEBrusk drives Kadri into the boards, Kadri pushes back and thenDeBrusk jumps him with a hit up high.  Yet another non penalty against Boston as its 2 for each
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:38:00 PM
What did Kadri get a penalty for? That's an f'n joke.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 08:38:13 PM
Typical
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 08:38:44 PM
Love to hear an explanation for how Kadri gets a penalty out of that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on April 13, 2019, 08:39:14 PM
Why did Kadri get a penalty there?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
Absolute bull#$#% honestly I can't believe how bad that call was.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:42:40 PM
Kadri looks like he is skating through mud. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:42:41 PM
What is with the camera work in this game...3 or 4 times they have zoomed in on the back of a player so you canít see any of the olay
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:43:54 PM
So how many times is deBrusk going to get away with throwing punches after whistles?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
Dermott gets jumped and nothing. The hell is happening tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:44:55 PM
Pretty much going toe to toe with them.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:46:24 PM
Typical playoff reffing. Play through it boys, and keep going.
Pretty much going toe to toe with them.
Yup. Doing better now.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
There ya go, Dermott gets elbowed in the nose. Nothing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on April 13, 2019, 08:47:12 PM
Wow refs. Just wow. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:47:56 PM
Eesh not good
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 08:47:57 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:48:02 PM
Jake Muzzin isnít good. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:48:03 PM
Unfortunate, that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:48:18 PM
Poor Muzz.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 13, 2019, 08:48:24 PM
Welp, we suck again...lol
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
Muzzin what are you doing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Muzz having a bad period.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 08:51:32 PM
2nd Leaf bleeding you dirty pos Bruins
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
Muzzin what are you doing.

He just isnít a solid Dman.  Not a great trade by Dubas. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:51:41 PM
F/u Pastrnak.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
Oh look they finally call a charge.   That was the 4th or 5th hit Boston has thrown like that.  Amazing how you can control the play when you get to run around throwing borderline hits all period
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on April 13, 2019, 08:52:00 PM
Refs woke up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:52:19 PM
Unfortunate, that.
It was. Muzz in the right spot just lost the handle.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:53:45 PM
Damn, that would have nice to get one there.

They really need to win the faceoff to start the 2nd and press to get one on the back half of the PP.  Would change the whole game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 08:54:13 PM
Love how it took 2 guys getting bloodied before they decide to give the Bruins a penalty
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 08:54:21 PM
Oh look they finally call a charge.   That was the 4th or 5th hit Boston has thrown like that.  Amazing how you can control the play when you get to run around throwing borderline hits all period
Ain't that the truth! Completely nonsense. We gotta start possessing the puck and skating and not get sucked into their game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 08:54:31 PM
leafs need to get the pp working, key point here to start the second.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 08:56:21 PM
Eventually, Matthews has to start scoring against the bruins. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 08:56:40 PM
Hated the opening shift line change by Babs. Let them god damn chase. We kicked their ass the first game!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 08:57:41 PM
Weíll wake up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 08:57:58 PM
Oh look they finally call a charge.   That was the 4th or 5th hit Boston has thrown like that.  Amazing how you can control the play when you get to run around throwing borderline hits all period
Ain't that the truth! Completely nonsense. We gotta start possessing the puck and skating and not get sucked into their game.

Which they aren't so far.  Not just because the B's defense is better, though it is.  They aren't winning many races to the puck.

The key in this game from here on in is not to let the Bruins run away with it.  Keep it close, make them keep working like maniacs, and maybe pull a break or two to get back in it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 08:58:18 PM
Oh look Donald a cherry is a friging moron.  The Leafs are the ones making the Refs look bad for not doing their jobs
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 08:58:20 PM
Cherry a complete moron as usual
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 08:58:52 PM
Leafs just need to play. No need to panic or overreact.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:01:26 PM
The goonish response from the Bruins was predictable.  If the officials continue to permit obvious infractions to go unpenalized, it will obviously make things more difficult.  Time for a Shanahan press conference to criticize the referees.  Take the fine for the greater good.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
Damn, that would have nice to get one there.

They really need to win the faceoff to start the 2nd and press to get one on the back half of the PP.  Would change the whole game.

The refs could also start calling penalties in plays that are blatant infractions not occurring with exactly 1 minute left.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:02:53 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:03:12 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 09:05:41 PM
I don't normally agree with the senile old man but two things he said ring true to me:

1) the Bruins didn't show up in game 1
2) the Leafs need to stop whining about the refs

The Bruins are gonna play dirty and they're not gonna get called. If you can't beat em, join em.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:06:15 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.

I reluctantly agree.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:07:06 PM
I don't normally agree with the senile old man but two things he said ring true to me:

1) the Bruins didn't show up in game 1
2) the Leafs need to stop whining about the refs

The Bruins are gonna play dirty and they're not gonna get called. If you can't beat em, join em.

And make them pay on the PP when things do get called.  They aren't going to out-goon them.  Skate, skate , skate.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:07:15 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.
And yet Ferland was ejected for a non hit to the head. Yeah, great reffing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:07:45 PM
we could just do it back to them although Kadri will end up in the box or possibly suspended.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
I don't normally agree with the senile old man but two things he said ring true to me:

1) the Bruins didn't show up in game 1
2) the Leafs need to stop whining about the refs

The Bruins are gonna play dirty and they're not gonna get called. If you can't beat em, join em.
Ding ding ding. Winner right here. If they call it the same both ways, have at it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:08:48 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.
And yet Ferland was ejected for a non hit to the head. Yeah, great reffing.
The Ferland hit has nothing to do with this game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:10:28 PM
Game 1 was a template for how the Leafs will win the series.  Game 2 is Boston's.  Gotta play Game 1, not Game 2.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
I don't normally agree with the senile old man but two things he said ring true to me:

1) the Bruins didn't show up in game 1
2) the Leafs need to stop whining about the refs

The Bruins are gonna play dirty and they're not gonna get called. If you can't beat em, join em.
Ding ding ding. Winner right here. If they call it the same both ways, have at it.
Thatís the trouble, though.  That isnít the Leafsí game and it shouldnít have to be because the officials arenít doing their jobs.  Debrusk was an embarrassment that period and was not penalized once, other than the ridiculous coincidental with Kadri.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:14:41 PM
Man, Muzz having trouble.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
Game 1 was a template for how the Leafs will win the series.  Game 2 is Boston's.  Gotta play Game 1, not Game 2.
Yup. Bruins got a couple of breaks and scored on them. Muzz handles both and we're probably still tied.
Huge save Freddie!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:17:05 PM
Another two late hits this period already
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:18:57 PM
Marleau should practice hitting the net with his shots. Looks alright and getting looks but keeps missing the net.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 13, 2019, 09:21:25 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.

100% agree and Kadri whines way to much. It's simple, Boston played terrible in game 1, tonight they showed up ready, we need to raise our game or it's going to be a 4-1 Boston series win.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:21:44 PM
Freddie excellent this period.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:22:22 PM
You may think Cherry is a moron but he's got a point. We can whine but the players can't. This is the way the playoffs are called. Seems the same way every year. Guys just have to play through it and not let their emotions take over. Whining to the refs is a waste of time.
And yet Ferland was ejected for a non hit to the head. Yeah, great reffing.
The Ferland hit has nothing to do with this game.
No, but you're saying it's the playoffs as justification for not calling an after the whistle elbow to the face or literally 4v4 when one player doesn't engage. That's just not calling the rulebook. There have been plenty of non calls and bad calls if you've watched more than just the Leafs.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
The Leafs just have no answer for the Bruins. Almost 10 minutes in and only 1 shot on goal.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 09:26:03 PM
game has a real shutout feel to it. leafs not generating any offense.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 09:26:44 PM
Stop with the long passes. Just stop. For $!?@ sakes...
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:27:06 PM
Jaysus that was a hard hit by Muzzin.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
Whatís Muzzinís problem?


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:27:43 PM
Stop with the long passes. Just stop. For $!?@ sakes...
I wouldn't stop entirely. The Leafs do rely on them to a degree for offense. Kadri pass was pretty long last game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:28:07 PM
Freddie excellent this period.
Only reason it's only 2-0. Big hit by the Muzz!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:28:09 PM
Babcock is incapable of adjusting mid game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
The Matthews line has to start doing something.  Anything.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:28:32 PM
They are hanging in there.  Passes aren't connecting so far.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:29:10 PM
For Christ sakes
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
C'mon Willy.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
They are hanging in there.  Passes aren't connecting so far.

Until that shit show.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:30:45 PM
What an embarrassment.   Being completely owned.   Knew what was coming tonight and havenít bothered to show up. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 09:30:54 PM
On to game 3.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Nylander getting laid for that garbage
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:31:55 PM
Honest to goodness that type of thing only happens to this team.  Peewee stuff.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:32:05 PM
Now the Bruins get to be abused and yet thebLeafs get a penalty. 

Frig off with the ďitís the playoffs crapĒ.  The Leafs have taken more penalties than Boston
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:32:06 PM
Gauthier.  What an awful hockey player.   
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:33:16 PM
Yeah, this one is getting away now. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:33:52 PM
I am grumpy as F.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:34:17 PM
Seriously this is friging nonsense.  Boston gets the run around doing whatever they want.  Gauthier retaliated and itís a penalty.  Someone should put the stopwatch out on all of the Boston hits that are a full second after the puck has been played
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 09:34:40 PM
Now the Bruins get to be abused and yet thebLeafs get a penalty. 

Frig off with the ďitís the playoffs crapĒ.  The Leafs have taken more penalties than Boston


Lol after all the crap the Bruins got away with and the gentleman Gauthier gets calls for what I don't know. So much for "it's playoffs they just let them play!'
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:34:47 PM
Did I miss what Gautheir did other than get hit multiple times?  They picked him this time in the scrum out of all the other things that were happening?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:36:15 PM
Freddie has been awesome!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:36:43 PM
Again, Matthews needs to score eventually against the bruins.  We will never beat them in a series if he isnít a big part of it. 

The time is now.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
Freddie.  No give up in him.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:36:53 PM
Looks like we're losing tonight but Andersen has been amazing, bodes well.  And we aren't giving up.  Also bodes well.  Let the hounds run!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:37:26 PM
Paging Austin Matthews... engage beast mode.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:37:43 PM
Absolutely must convert this.  Make them squirm.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:38:04 PM
Matthews a no sho me after a solid game 1 even without scoring.  That worries me.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:38:19 PM
Krug out.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:38:23 PM
Now the Bruins get to be abused and yet thebLeafs get a penalty. 

Frig off with the ďitís the playoffs crapĒ.  The Leafs have taken more penalties than Boston


Lol after all the crap the Bruins got away with and the gentleman Gauthier gets calls for what I don't know. So much for "it's playoffs they just let them play!'
It hasnít been even-handed.  The comments on here defending the officials are treasonous.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
Matthews a no sho me after a solid game 1 even without scoring.  That worries me.
Me too.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:40:02 PM
Paging Austin Matthews... engage beast mode.
Paging anyone who isn't Freddie.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:40:38 PM
Yep.  Have to call that because itís the playoffs where they donít call minor stuff
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:40:50 PM
That call was frigging weak!!!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:40:54 PM
Get kadri off the damn PP.  my god is he awful right now.   Get him away from the 1st PP unit. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:41:54 PM
Oh right Kadri with a penalty there sure.  Shutout shutout shutout coming
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
Matthews a no sho me after a solid game 1 even without scoring.  That worries me.
Me too.
Please stop overreacting. NO ONE other then Freddie looks ok tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:44:30 PM
DEBrusk takes Kadri out with a knee on knee and the refs donít call it

This is absolutely absurd
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
Knee on knee no call. friging bull#$#% again. This reffing is a gong show.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
Of course no call on DeBrusk. Refs didn't see it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 09:45:12 PM
This is embarrassing for the NHL. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 09:45:17 PM
Take the fines, front office. This ref job needs to be shredded publicly.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:45:53 PM
Where are all the ref lovers now?  What load of garbage this is.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:46:10 PM
DEBrusk takes Kadri out with a knee on knee and the refs donít call it

This is absolutely absurd
Agreed. Hope Kadri is ok and keeps his head. I think this game is going to get real nasty.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:48:33 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:49:49 PM
Andersen, Hainsey & Kadri the best Leafs so far. 

It's a damn shame about that 3rd goal awfulness.  Going into 3rd down 2-0, I'd say wouldn't be a bad position to be in on the road and having already bagged one.  3-0 is tough though.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
I said that after the first...
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Matthews a no sho me after a solid game 1 even without scoring.  That worries me.
Completely invisible out there. Doesn't look willing to pay the price to get to the prime scoring areas. No one else is doing much either so he has plenty of company.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:50:56 PM
That should have been a kneeing but Kadri did end up making it worse by trying to jump out of the way.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
That should have been a kneeing but Kadri did end up making it worse by trying to jump out of the way.

But Kypreos is an idiot.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:52:00 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
You're quoting something that was said in the 1st period.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
1. Why Nylander is still being given shifts is a complete mystery to me. He has been an absolute disaster tonight, from the first five minutes to the ridiculous giveaway behind the net. Absolutely disgraceful.

2. This may be in the top 10 for the worst refereeing performances I've ever seen. And I'm old.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:52:27 PM
And Ron is dead wrong.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 09:52:47 PM
The fact debrusk didnít get penalaized and will be playing the 3rdis bad.  The Leafs need to answer that but could risk discipline of their own since the refs wonít stop it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:53:05 PM
That should have been a kneeing but Kadri did end up making it worse by trying to jump out of the way.

But Kypreos is an idiot.
He def is lol.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 09:53:48 PM
Hrudey is right. Nylander has been the worst player tonight. I do agree with Kypreos on one thing. Play your lines and let them change theirs.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:55:07 PM
herman vs. hrudey:  CAGE MATCH.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
You're quoting something that was said in the 1st period.
Was it clean?  Refs were not fine from the start and this is what happens.  Itís completeley out of hand and still no calls.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 09:56:24 PM
That bonehead mistake by Nylander is a killer. Only down 2 goals you're right back in it with a quick goal in the 3rd. 3-0 is a huge mountain to climb especially with the yellow and black refs tonight
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Sweenbot on April 13, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
Long time lurker here and i didnt expect a win tonight but the refs are to blame when this gets out of hand. I know it is the playoffs and you they let a bit more slide but there is a line and it is more for the cluching, grabbing and the battles. Not late hits. High hits. Knee on knee. I know i am obviously going to be a bit biased but no sane hockey fan can watch this and think the refs arent having a complete nightmare.

Thanks i am going back into the shadows.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 09:56:46 PM
So the refs are allowed to not call penalties because you look at them for not doing their job?  What is this nonsense and why are the talking heads agreeing that this is acceptable? 

Iíll take that approach when I go to work in the ER tomorrow.  You looked at me to treat your pneumonia, nope, no therapy for you.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:57:03 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective: we got blown out both G1 and G2 last year.  This may end up 4-0 or 5-1 or whatever, but it has not been a blowout.  So already miles ahead of last year.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 09:57:18 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
You're quoting something that was said in the 1st period.
Was it clean?  Refs were not fine from the start and this is what happens.  Itís completeley out of hand and still no calls.
Cry about it, the refs are not the reason the Leafs are getting doubled in shots.

Did I say the knee was clean what planet are you on?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 09:57:36 PM
And Ron is dead wrong.
That's idiotic. Leafs looking for help from the refs therefore non-call. A call is a call is a call. Call the game properly or we'll replace you with AI.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 09:57:53 PM
Waaaaaa! Waaaaaa! The refs! Waaaaaa!

The Leafs can't control the refs. They can't use their skill. They have no answer for that. This is the NHL folks. It's not all about skill. It never has been. It never will be. The Leafs need to adjust to what the game is, not what they think it is or want it to be.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 09:58:52 PM
Long time lurker here and i didnt expect a win tonight but the refs are to blame when this gets out of hand. I know it is the playoffs and you they let a bit more slide but there is a line and it is more for the cluching, grabbing and the battles. Not late hits. High hits. Knee on knee. I know i am obviously going to be a bit biased but no sane hockey fan can watch this and think the refs arent having a complete nightmare.

Thanks i am going back into the shadows.

You should post more.  The more the merrier, as they say.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:00:13 PM
So the refs are allowed to not call penalties because you look at them for not doing their job?  What is this nonsense and why are the talking heads agreeing that this is acceptable? 

Iíll take that approach when I go to work in the ER tomorrow.  You looked at me to treat your pneumonia, nope, no therapy for you.

That's what bugged me about Ron's comment.  The Leafs got the least number of calls this year because they whined every game?  Nonsense.  This is nothing compared to the old days.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective: we got blown out both G1 and G2 last year.  This may end up 4-0 or 5-1 or whatever, but it has not been a blowout.  So already miles ahead of last year.

Agreed. Boston came out completely amped up for this game, and even with the shot differential, I'm not all that upset about how they've played - theres been a good attempt at pushback. Nylander, though, has me really steamed.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:01:02 PM
Waaaaaa! Waaaaaa! The refs! Waaaaaa!

The Leafs can't control the refs. They can't use their skill. They have no answer for that. This is the NHL folks. It's not all about skill. It never has been. It never will be. The Leafs need to adjust to what the game is, not what they think it is or want it to be.
No they can't. But this is a badly reffed game, even by NHL standards. It's not often you hear Ron and co. point out two non-calls.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 10:01:37 PM
I'm finally caught up (was watching on PVR).

I'll probably get shredded for this, but I'm on the fence about the kneeing. I'd probably say I'm leaning towards no penalty on that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Oracle on April 13, 2019, 10:02:18 PM
I would normally agree with not blaming the refs, but when you're being called on hockey rules and the other team is playing rugby, you have a handicap.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:02:44 PM
I agree with Kyper about pulling Marner away from the FOURTH line 7 seconds in. WTF
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective: we got blown out both G1 and G2 last year.  This may end up 4-0 or 5-1 or whatever, but it has not been a blowout.  So already miles ahead of last year.

Agreed. Boston came out completely amped up for this game, and even with the shot differential, I'm not all that upset about how they've played - theres been a good attempt at pushback. Nylander, though, has me really steamed.

Yes, Willie's had a terrible game, nothing staying on his stick.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 10:03:31 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
You're quoting something that was said in the 1st period.
Was it clean?  Refs were not fine from the start and this is what happens.  Itís completeley out of hand and still no calls.
Cry about it, the refs are not the reason the Leafs are getting doubled in shots.

Did I say the knee was clean what planet are you on?
Dude, if we had the power plays would should have had, we would not be doubled in shots.  You havenít said they knee should have been penalized.  Maybe you agree with Kypreos.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:04:43 PM
Would love to see them notch a couple in the 3rd to at least make it close.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:05:00 PM
So the refs are allowed to not call penalties because you look at them for not doing their job?  What is this nonsense and why are the talking heads agreeing that this is acceptable? 

Iíll take that approach when I go to work in the ER tomorrow.  You looked at me to treat your pneumonia, nope, no therapy for you.
Not going to argue the point. Right or wrong they always seem to let this crap go in the playoffs. I would just like to see them call every game the same way. A penalty is a penalty. The refs have been brutal in this game no doubt. The Kadri knee hit was the topper.
Hope Kadri keeps his head.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective: we got blown out both G1 and G2 last year.  This may end up 4-0 or 5-1 or whatever, but it has not been a blowout.  So already miles ahead of last year.

Agreed. Boston came out completely amped up for this game, and even with the shot differential, I'm not all that upset about how they've played - theres been a good attempt at pushback. Nylander, though, has me really steamed.

Yes, Willie's had a terrible game, nothing staying on his stick.

To be fair I think that can be said about a lot of layers today.  Nylander has been that much worse but their passes have been off and they are struggling to pick up the puck
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:06:45 PM
Man Andersen came to play
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:07:02 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective: we got blown out both G1 and G2 last year.  This may end up 4-0 or 5-1 or whatever, but it has not been a blowout.  So already miles ahead of last year.

Agreed. Boston came out completely amped up for this game, and even with the shot differential, I'm not all that upset about how they've played - theres been a good attempt at pushback. Nylander, though, has me really steamed.

Yes, Willie's had a terrible game, nothing staying on his stick.

It's not just the giveaways, that can happen to any skilled player, it's the complete lack anything approaching playoff effort without the puck. He doesn't compete with anything other than skill, and when it fails him, like tonight, it's ugly. Honestly, I think in his head it's a shinny game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:07:11 PM
Andersen.  Wow.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:07:23 PM
Positive note. Krug isn't on the bench. Maybe he's concussed again.
And I don't want to hear Freddie isn't a playoff goalie. He's been awesome this game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:08:02 PM
herman vs. hrudey:  CAGE MATCH.

That whole panel has no redeeming qualities.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 10:08:07 PM
Waaaaaa! Waaaaaa! The refs! Waaaaaa!

The Leafs can't control the refs. They can't use their skill. They have no answer for that. This is the NHL folks. It's not all about skill. It never has been. It never will be. The Leafs need to adjust to what the game is, not what they think it is or want it to be.
No they can't. But this is a badly reffed game, even by NHL standards. It's not often you hear Ron and co. point out two non-calls.

Whether or not it's badly reffed is irrelevant. It's not up to the Leafs to point that out or make a big deal out of it. That's up to the league. The Leafs need to find a way to work through it. And that's what it comes down to for me. The Leafs don't want to work through the BS that the NHL is. They want to just let their talent carry them through. When games get chippy and the talent gets bogged down the Leafs fold up shop and just start looking to the refs. That isn't going to work. If the Leafs worked through the muck a little harder they'd benefit from more calls.

I'm not disagreeing that the refs are garbage. But complaining about it isn't the answer, and making that displeasure public is going to have the opposite effect. The Leafs need to shut up and just play bull#$#% playoff hockey because the league isn't going to change to make it what the Leafs want it to be, even if it is the right thing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:09:05 PM
Positive note. Krug isn't on the bench. Maybe he's concussed again.

There's a line I won't cross personally, and that's hoping a player has been injured.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:09:38 PM
Itís the friggin playoffs, the refs have been fine.
Knee on knee allowed in the playoffs the suppose?
You're quoting something that was said in the 1st period.
Was it clean?  Refs were not fine from the start and this is what happens.  Itís completeley out of hand and still no calls.
Cry about it, the refs are not the reason the Leafs are getting doubled in shots.

Did I say the knee was clean what planet are you on?
Dude, if we had the power plays would should have had, we would not be doubled in shots.  You havenít said they knee should have been penalized.  Maybe you agree with Kypreos.
Thatís total BS, Leafs have been awful.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:09:54 PM
Another non-called elbow/high stick
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
Man Andersen came to play
Absolutely. Best player on the ice.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 10:10:56 PM
tavares got assaulted on that shift...twice..
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lamajama on April 13, 2019, 10:11:28 PM
The Bruins have enjoyed this bias many times before...the most blatant example was the Bruins-Canuck Finals...Bruins absolutely mugged the Canucks with impunity.

The only difference here is I hate the Canucks so.....
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:11:31 PM
Kadri has been awesome.  Not backing down.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:11:35 PM
Missed the first period but officiating in that 2 nd period was brutal as fu&k. Babcock or Leaf brass need to say something after this game. Wasnít a good call on the Leafs that period.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:11:59 PM
Haha, even Simpson complaining about the refs.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 10:13:09 PM
That scrum literally started by a Bruin running after Hyman and running into his teammate
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:15:29 PM
Kadri isn't good on the PP.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 10:16:10 PM
Bruins fans booing that penalty call.  Canít wait until the games are at home.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:16:36 PM
We have the bloody globe trotters but an absolute crap PP.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 10:18:40 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.   
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:19:08 PM
Yesss
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:19:18 PM
Finally a good shift.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
We rule man


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 10:19:24 PM
Give Nylander credit.  That was a phenomenal shift from him
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:20:07 PM
ALL RIGHT!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:20:31 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:20:56 PM
Finally a great shift. That's the way to do it boys.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:21:42 PM
Give Nylander credit.  That was a phenomenal shift from him
He's not getting much from me. Hyman tho, definitely.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 10:22:32 PM
Kadri of course at this point.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:22:39 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.


Thank the Bruins for waking him up. He's pissed
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:22:58 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.

Kadri is getting my motm, even before the goal.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:23:14 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.
Love it. Just keep him off the PP lol
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:23:43 PM
Game not over.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:25:04 PM
Game not over.
. Leafs need one before less than 2 minutes to go. Could be barn burner of a finish.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:25:36 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.

Kadri is getting my motm, even before the goal.
Sorry, anyone other then Freddie is just wrong. HM is his tho!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:26:06 PM
This would be a helluva finish were it not for that 3rd goal.  Nylander made partial amends, now do it again.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:26:17 PM
We have the bloody globe trotters but an absolute crap PP.

Problem I see on the PP is they are too passive. Need to pursue the puck better. Most of them look like they coast around. Still have to win the puck battles. They turn it over way too easy.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:26:43 PM

Hail Hydra.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:26:46 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.

Kadri is getting my motm, even before the goal.
Sorry, anyone other then Freddie is just wrong. HM is his tho!

Yeah, that stop on Marchand to begin the 3rd was key.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:27:56 PM
Good for Kadri

DeBrusk turnbuckles Marleau so Kadri does the thing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
Token Kadri, stupid B@$ch. Another hissy fit.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
Well there's another suspension for Kadri
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 13, 2019, 10:29:39 PM
Kadri does the response but the refs kick him out of the game and that will probably be 5 minutes although I donít think it deserves it
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 10:29:53 PM
kadri man...game over
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 10:30:11 PM
Well there's another STUPID suspension for Kadri

Fixed it for you
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:30:19 PM
Can't he just retaliate with a normal check? Didn't have to cross check. Definitely penalty there ugh
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:30:25 PM
Willy just watching Kadri getting manhandled by Chara.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 10:30:29 PM
Kadri does it again. He will be suspended for that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on April 13, 2019, 10:30:31 PM
kadri. come on.

insert expletive.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 10:30:40 PM
Oh, Naz.  Game wasnít over yet.  Not smart.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:30:45 PM
And, Kadri loses my motm vote. The leafs still had a chance, and he blows it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:31:18 PM
Well, that ends any chance of a comeback.  But props to Kadri for standing up to the Bruins. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:31:33 PM
Good for Kadri

DeBrusk turnbuckles Marleau so Kadri does the thing.
Sorry not good. He's out of the game and this game isn't over yet. A 5 minute PP. You want to do that when the game is out of hand, feel free. Dumb.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 10:31:41 PM
Whatís Kadriís problem?


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 13, 2019, 10:31:50 PM
Kadri's a freakin idiot! There's sticking up for a team mate and there's cross checking to the head. Suspension for sure. Idiot.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 10:32:36 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
We stink dudes.


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on April 13, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
Kadri is beasting it up.
Dumbing it up now


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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:33:14 PM
It'll be for naught but Hainsey has been solid.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
Kadri gets them back in the game then ends it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:33:52 PM
Willy just watching Kadri getting manhandled by Chara.

Lol, what do you want him to do? I'd say the best approach would be to sneak up and try to untie his skates.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 10:34:05 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:34:35 PM
Yeah, while I think Kadri has been a force all game and I admire him standing up for Marleau that was stupid.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: tomcom on April 13, 2019, 10:35:16 PM
So everyone knows that Bruins will come out hitting tonight and the ref decided to let them play and not calling anything. What type of bull#$#% is that.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:35:53 PM
Kadri was sticking up for Marleau there but that's what happens when the refs let the game get out of control. Bruins should have been called multiple times earlier and weren't and emotions kept rising.  Disgrace of a game from the officials.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 10:36:07 PM
I hope they suspend kadri for the rest of the playoffs.  What a joke he is.   PP will be better too.  Got played same exact as last year.  Done with him. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:36:12 PM
It'll be for naught but Hainsey has been solid.
Other then those mishandles by Muzz, the D has been fine. Forwards haven't been so hot.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 13, 2019, 10:36:23 PM
It wasn't even a bad hit. What you can't hit Marleau now? Kadri is a moron. Now he will miss a game, possibly more, the Bruins still win and they come out looking like the good guys.

I'm done with Kadri.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:36:45 PM
I'd say smart money would be on Kadri getting a 1 game suspension.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:36:52 PM
Gotta love listening to the US broadcast. Milbury youíre a tool. At first I thought it was a good crosscheck to the face after watching the replay not as bad as it looked. Says this one was worse than the one suspension last year.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:37:11 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:37:25 PM
The silver living: Andersen.  If he keeps playing like this we can win the series.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:37:40 PM
Kadri was sticking up for Marleau there but that's what happens when the refs let the game get out of control. Bruins should have been called multiple times earlier and weren't and emotions kept rising.  Disgrace of a game from the officials.
I'll agree the refs have been crap, Kadri cross checking him in the head was just stupid. That's on him and him alone.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:37:46 PM
Good for Kadri

DeBrusk turnbuckles Marleau so Kadri does the thing.
Sorry not good. He's out of the game and this game isn't over yet. A 5 minute PP. You want to do that when the game is out of hand, feel free. Dumb.

Youíre right. I looked away after Marleau popped up and saw Kadri on top of Debrusk.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 10:38:14 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:38:25 PM
It'll be for naught but Hainsey has been solid.
Other then those mishandles by Muzz, the D has been fine. Forwards haven't been so hot.

Yes.  Leafs aren't winning when Matthews, Tavares, Marner aren't doing anything.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:39:11 PM
The silver living: Andersen.  If he keeps playing like this we can win the series.
Freddie has been awesome!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:39:14 PM
Matthews only extended zone time comes when Nylander is on his wing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:39:34 PM
My 5 year old has more self control then Kadri.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:39:43 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts.
None of the forwards showed up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:39:46 PM
Can't he just retaliate with a normal check? Didn't have to cross check. Definitely penalty there ugh

Exactly wait for a good spot and lay him out with a good hit.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:40:24 PM
It'll be for naught but Hainsey has been solid.
Other then those mishandles by Muzz, the D has been fine. Forwards haven't been so hot.

Yes.  Leafs aren't winning when Matthews, Tavares, Marner aren't doing anything.
Yup. The forwards didn't get it going tonight. None of them.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:40:33 PM
This really isn't a disaster. We didn't get the PPs or the bounces, but apart from Nylander, the pushback and compete level as a whole was great to see.

Hey, if Toronto fans were offered a split coming out of Boston, who wouldn't be pleased?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 10:40:42 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts.

I thought he was a lot better than Tavares tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:41:46 PM
1-1 coming out of Boston?  I'm taking that.

Leafs can't get baited into playing more games like that, though.  They weren't skating in the 1st and they cannot play like that.  But they fought back, Andersen was brilliant, and the D -- the D! -- was the best part of the team.

Keep it up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 10:43:26 PM
This really isn't a disaster. We didn't get the PPs or the bounces, but apart from Nylander, the pushback and compete level as a whole was great to see.

Hey, if Toronto fans were offered a split coming out of Boston, who wouldn't be pleased?

Apart from Nylander? What about Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 13, 2019, 10:43:56 PM
1-1 coming out of Boston?  I'm taking that.

Leafs can't get baited into playing more games like that, though.  They weren't skating in the 1st and they cannot play like that.  But they fought back, Andersen was brilliant, and the D -- the D! -- was the best part of the team.

Keep it up.
Exactly.  Split of the first two is a good result.  Just hope Kadri isnít suspended and he can control his aggression for the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 10:44:15 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 10:44:43 PM
1-1 coming out of Boston?  I'm taking that.

Leafs can't get baited into playing more games like that, though.  They weren't skating in the 1st and they cannot play like that.  But they fought back, Andersen was brilliant, and the D -- the D! -- was the best part of the team.

Keep it up.

Agreed. Nice to see a level head. 1-1 coming out of Boston is all we can ask for. They've got a couple days to calm down and get back to their game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:45:29 PM
I missed too much of the game to properly vote, but Andersen is the man for sure. I liked Muzzinís play for the most part (bad luck on goal 1).

I want the Leafs to take the high road on the reffing (which led to two more Bruin injuries), but part of me wants to see Babcock and Dubas rip them up like wax strips off Steve Carrell.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 10:45:50 PM
Willy just watching Kadri getting manhandled by Chara.

Lol, what do you want him to do? I'd say the best approach would be to sneak up and try to untie his skates.

Stand up for your teammate. Something. I know the guys a freak but donít just stand there. Chara should of got two there anyway manhandled Kadri and took a punch at him and nothing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:46:19 PM
Nylander had a bad game but he's recorded points in both, so let's not lose all perspective.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 13, 2019, 10:46:34 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts.
None of the forwards showed up.

True.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 10:46:43 PM
1-1 coming out of Boston?  I'm taking that.

Leafs can't get baited into playing more games like that, though.  They weren't skating in the 1st and they cannot play like that.  But they fought back, Andersen was brilliant, and the D -- the D! -- was the best part of the team.


Keep it up.
Yep, split is good. Kadri will be suspended for at least a game. Leaf forwards had no answer tonight for the most part, looked like they wanted nothing to do with the physical play (except Kadri, but he can't control himself). Lots of rushed plays, weak shots from low danger areas. Hopefully they get things together and are prepared for the next game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:47:40 PM
This really isn't a disaster. We didn't get the PPs or the bounces, but apart from Nylander, the pushback and compete level as a whole was great to see.

Hey, if Toronto fans were offered a split coming out of Boston, who wouldn't be pleased?

Apart from Nylander? What about Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen?

They competed. Nylander was an abject disaster tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 10:48:45 PM
1-1 coming out of Boston?  I'm taking that.

Leafs can't get baited into playing more games like that, though.  They weren't skating in the 1st and they cannot play like that.  But they fought back, Andersen was brilliant, and the D -- the D! -- was the best part of the team.

Keep it up.
Exactly.  Split of the first two is a good result.  Just hope Kadri isnít suspended and he can control his aggression for the rest of the series.

What's the over/under on the suspension? I'm going with 3 games as a repeat, repeat offender
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Leaffan61 on April 13, 2019, 10:49:03 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts.

I thought he was a lot better than Tavares tonight.

Neither one of them showed.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 10:50:11 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.
The refs should get suspended too. Ridiculous game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
I don't understand why Kadri just didn't body check him instead of putting his stick up. Would have been fine
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Leaffan61 on April 13, 2019, 10:51:24 PM
Kadri should get nothing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 10:52:28 PM
Premeditated cross check to the face by a repeat offender...  there goes our depth for a second season in a row. What a clown.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: gunnar36 on April 13, 2019, 10:52:31 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 10:53:26 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

It's Boston you know that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:53:36 PM
Matthews being extremely diplomatic when asked about the reffing.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 13, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Kadri should get nothing.

We'll see. Kucherov got 1 game for worse, imo, but I think Kadri has a more pungent track record for DOPS.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:53:58 PM
How bout another Matthews no show.   This guy sure isnít stepping it up when it counts.

I thought he was a lot better than Tavares tonight.
I agree. He was one of our best forwards with 5 shots and actually created a few chances. He was also pretty good in his own end. In the end tho, we got a split so all is good.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Matthews being extremely diplomatic when asked about the reffing.
They know. Leafs will complain behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 10:56:15 PM
This is the worst follow up panel possible.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 10:57:06 PM
This is the worst follow up panel possible.
Turn it to the Calgary game right away. Don't have to listen to them lol.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 10:58:54 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
The Leafs have a history of giving away good players who end up becoming better elsewhere and you know it. I don't have the patience to dig up the research but off the top of my head Steve Sullivan, Alex Steen, Anton Stralman, Kenny Jonsson. I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying you will get trash value in return on a down year.

It is poor asset management to sell low on a player. It's a really basic concept. I really hope you don't buy your own stocks.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 13, 2019, 11:01:25 PM
Krug seriously needs to tighten that chin strap, history of concussions.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 11:01:55 PM
I don't understand why Kadri just didn't body check him instead of putting his stick up. Would have been fine
Some guys get too emotional. Kadri is one of those guys. That's why Babs was telling him to shut up last game. If he hammers DeClown there he gets zero. If he drops the gloves, he probably takes him with him. Let's hope he doesn't get suspended because having Nylander at centre looks like a disaster waiting to happen with that compete level he displayed tonight.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on April 13, 2019, 11:02:44 PM
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 11:03:22 PM
Krug seriously needs to tighten that chin strap, history of concussions.
I don't like seeing anyone get hurt but it wouldn't bother me if he was out for the series. What a hit by Muzz tho!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 11:04:07 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 11:06:16 PM
This is the worst follow up panel possible.
Turn it to the Calgary game right away. Don't have to listen to them lol.

Iím watching Ultraman instead
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 11:07:18 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically thereís no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.

Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 13, 2019, 11:07:49 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Even if he missed, the intent was there and with Kadri's history...

Edit after seeing the video above...he didn't miss. That's gonna be at least 2 games IMO.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 11:08:20 PM
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on April 13, 2019, 11:14:16 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically thereís no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.


When I say good I mean it was malicious, vicious or made contact with the head. Obviously there is no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head. The intent was there but again have to see it again. Donít think it was as bad as it looked. Debrusk was asking for it all night unfortunately Naz doesnít know when and how to pick his spots.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 11:15:54 PM
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically thereís no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.

Hard to defend that. Let's hope he gets a fine. Doubt it. He'll bring up the knee on knee thing for a defense tho.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 13, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Heís getting suspended for sure.  Only thing to hopenfor is just 1 game.  I can not believe we are this position again.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 13, 2019, 11:24:44 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
The Leafs have a history of giving away good players who end up becoming better elsewhere and you know it. I don't have the patience to dig up the research but off the top of my head Steve Sullivan, Alex Steen, Anton Stralman, Kenny Jonsson. I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying you will get trash value in return on a down year.

It is poor asset management to sell low on a player. It's a really basic concept. I really hope you don't buy your own stocks.
Steen was a stupid trade, Sullivan meh, Stralman was stupid trade. In order to get rid of that crap contract they signed him to they are going to have to lose out on the trade...unless he disappears to Robidas island... If you massively overpay for stocks sometimes you have to cut your losses and take what you can get. Not saying they have to take what they can get for him but he would look good in a package going somewhere else
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 13, 2019, 11:28:08 PM
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
If Kadri gets suspended but Debrusk gets 0 you can thank Jeremy Jacobs. This is where his influence is on full display
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 13, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
Burke thinks Kadri will get 5.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on April 13, 2019, 11:32:17 PM
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
If Kadri gets suspended but Debrusk gets 0 you can thank Jeremy Jacobs. This is where his influence is on full display
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2019, 11:42:01 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
The Leafs have a history of giving away good players who end up becoming better elsewhere and you know it. I don't have the patience to dig up the research but off the top of my head Steve Sullivan, Alex Steen, Anton Stralman, Kenny Jonsson. I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying you will get trash value in return on a down year.

It is poor asset management to sell low on a player. It's a really basic concept. I really hope you don't buy your own stocks.
Steen was a stupid trade, Sullivan meh, Stralman was stupid trade. In order to get rid of that crap contract they signed him to they are going to have to lose out on the trade...unless he disappears to Robidas island... If you massively overpay for stocks sometimes you have to cut your losses and take what you can get. Not saying they have to take what they can get for him but he would look good in a package going somewhere else
You cut your losses when you think there's absolutely no chance of rebound. Just like in hockey there's analysis done on a number of factors, like in hockey, future growth. Just like in hockey you don't trade on your emotions, and Willie is striking those in you.

You don't cut your losses because you overpaid and are pissed it didn't meet expectations in an arbitrarily short period of time.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 13, 2019, 11:42:56 PM
Heís getting suspended for sure.  Only thing to hopenfor is just 1 game.  I can not believe we are this position again.


If it's one game, we can live with that.

If it's five games, call it The Kadri (playoff) Curse.  😔

Hope we are so wrong as to be right (1 game suspension only please DOPS).  🙇
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 13, 2019, 11:46:17 PM
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things

What would DeBrusk be suspended for?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 11:54:02 PM
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things

What would DeBrusk be suspended for?

Kneeing?  But I think they look at that and say, not intentional.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 13, 2019, 11:54:34 PM
What did Babcock have to say about all this post-game?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 13, 2019, 11:58:57 PM
What did Babcock have to say about all this post-game?

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/04/14/mike-babcock-post-game-bruins-4-vs-leafs-1-2/
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 14, 2019, 12:03:11 AM
Basically all the right things. It's on them to find a way.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 12:08:17 AM
What did Babcock have to say about all this post-game?

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/04/14/mike-babcock-post-game-bruins-4-vs-leafs-1-2/

Thanks, and thanks TMLF.  No whining from him.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on April 14, 2019, 12:08:30 AM
What did Babcock have to say about all this post-game?

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/04/14/mike-babcock-post-game-bruins-4-vs-leafs-1-2/
very babcockian response
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 12:11:48 AM
IMO opinion the next 2 games are really important for Matthews.  I'm not sure he has what it takes, yet, to elevate his game in hostile conditions and put the puck in the net.  If he can't dominate in Boston, he sure needs to in T.O.

It seems that Game 3 is the pivotal point in a 7-game series.  Leafs need to get it done on Monday.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 12:13:54 AM
In-person heading for Kadri.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: lc9 on April 14, 2019, 12:14:01 AM
Kadri already offered an in person meeting with the league. 

He is gonna miss multiple games I suspect. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 12:18:10 AM
In-person heading for Kadri.

I mean seriously, how about calling in the refs for an eval too?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 14, 2019, 12:22:49 AM
Kadri's season is over.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: LuncheonMeat on April 14, 2019, 12:51:11 AM
In-person heading for Kadri.

From the Department of Player Safety:

If the Department of Player Safety determines that any Supplemental Discipline from an infraction will result in five games or less or a fine of more than $5,000, the hearing is conducted by phone.

If the infraction might require a suspension of six games or more, the offending Player is offered the opportunity to an in-person hearing.


So, at least 6 games for Kadri?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: bustaheims on April 14, 2019, 12:56:42 AM
So, at least 6 games for Kadri?

No. Just gives the league the option.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BrownRolo on April 14, 2019, 06:36:15 AM
That's how I remember the series last year. It's basically let the Bruins do whatever they want. Refs seriously are ridiculous.

 As a fan watching that game I get so frustrated so I can't imagine how it feels to be the players. Kadri wants to win and he just snaps because of this bullcrap reffing.

Also, Matthews at 11 million plus? I'm sorry but, dude, show some emotion. I didn't even notice him. Completely invisible.  He better step it up big time for the rest of this series.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 14, 2019, 07:50:24 AM
This game was lost in the first 5 minutes of the first period. Boston came out swinging and Toronto came out ducking and reaching. They handled the puck like it was a live grenade and this is not a good way to play hockey.
They turned it into a dump and chase game and you're not going to win a dump and chase game against the Bruins. Not the way they were stapling everything to the wall.

As for Kadri, he has to be smarter. I get that he feels he's responding to the Marleau hit, but there are far better ways to do that. His emotions constantly get the better of him. You know why Marchand and Gallagher are so effective? Because they know when to reel it in. Kadri tries to walk the same line but he has no self control. He should be suspended for that play. I'm guessing 3 games again. If so, he has let down his team again. That's two playoffs in a row. That's unacceptable IMO.

I have to watch the knee on knee again, but Kadri jumped, and we all know that jumping when someone is trying to hit you is never a good move. Especially not on those open ice hits.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 14, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
In-person heading for Kadri.
I think Burke was right.  I expect 5 so the league ensures he doesnít play in this series again.  Who goes to 3-c now?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 14, 2019, 08:18:12 AM
In-person heading for Kadri.
I think Burke was right.  I expect 5 so the league ensures he doesnít play in this series again.  Who goes to 3-c now?

Nylander with Marleau and Moore on his wings
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 14, 2019, 08:30:05 AM
Kadri is done for the series.  Heís getting an in person hearing and thatís going to be 5+ games.   Screw the NHL and their arbitrary punishments

Honestly I donít even mind it.   Kadri was dumb enough to cross check a guy in the head but if this was DeBrusk getting this call I doubt he gets 5+.  Maybe if the refs did their job and didnít let guys run around all game this play wouldnít have happened.  Itís still all on Kadri but with all the crap pulled in this series so far Boston has more power plays than Toronto.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 14, 2019, 08:37:51 AM
Of course DeBrusk wouldn't get 5 games; he hasn't been suspended multiple times like Kadri has.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 08:39:29 AM
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Andy on April 14, 2019, 08:49:39 AM
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.

I don't think the league gives one whit and I don't see Kadri getting anything less than 5.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 08:51:09 AM
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.

I don't think the league gives one whit and I don't see Kadri getting anything less than 5.

You could be right, of course.  I might be indulging in a wishful lust for co-justice and responsibility.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 09:02:09 AM
Of course DeBrusk wouldn't get 5 games; he hasn't been suspended multiple times like Kadri has.

DeBrusk is also the son of a hockey player and much whiter than Kadri.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 14, 2019, 09:16:28 AM
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that statement, to be honest. Kadri's past supsensions have been warranted.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BrownRolo on April 14, 2019, 09:23:28 AM
I don't want to sound melodramatic or anything but if the next game is called in the same fashion as Game 2 I think I'll just check the box scores for the rest of this series.

The Leafs played poorly for sure and didn't serve to win. But I can't stand all the after whistle stuff they let go and then they call those penalties on Kadri and  Gauthier. I still don't even know what the Gauthier call was and the Kadri one on Marchand was laughable. The Bruins do the exact same thing but when the Leafs do it they get penalized.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BrownRolo on April 14, 2019, 09:28:57 AM
ALSO!!...I just finished watching the game so I didnt look through the game thread but...at the start of the game Babcock went with Tavares line and Boston played their fourth...why are the Leafs panicking to make a change there?

Wouldn't you want to have your top line going against a crap line? I guess Im just not a smart hockey man.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 09:31:39 AM
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that statement, to be honest. Kadri's past supsensions have been warranted.

Suspensions yes. The way the game is called on the ice? Hmm
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 09:31:43 AM
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.

Wishful thinking. Kadri will get 5 so he misses the rest of this series even if it goes 7. Bruins continue to do whatever the Frig they want on the ice with no calls and Jeremy Jacobs shines up Bettman's balls that he carries around in his back pocket
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 14, 2019, 09:43:13 AM
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that statement, to be honest. Kadri's past supsensions have been warranted.

Suspensions yes. The way the game is called on the ice? Hmm

Herman, I really wish you wouldn't go down this path, cause it affects how I respect you personally. Racism isn't a casual thing to throw around.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 09:48:47 AM
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that statement, to be honest. Kadri's past supsensions have been warranted.

Suspensions yes. The way the game is called on the ice? Hmm

Herman, I really wish you wouldn't go down this path, cause it affects how I respect you personally. Racism isn't a casual thing to throw around.

Are you saying you have a change in respect for me for insinuating that the NHL night have a race problem?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 14, 2019, 09:52:21 AM
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that statement, to be honest. Kadri's past supsensions have been warranted.

Suspensions yes. The way the game is called on the ice? Hmm

Herman, I really wish you wouldn't go down this path, cause it affects how I respect you personally. Racism isn't a casual thing to throw around.

Are you saying you have a change in respect for me for insinuating that the NHL night have a race problem?

I'm saying that unless you have clear evidence of nhl referees exhibiting bias due to race, you're spitballing, and it doesn't look good on you.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Dappleganger on April 14, 2019, 10:05:50 AM
Kadri gets kneed and nothing. Kadri gets his stick up and he's getting suspended? Jokes.
 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on April 14, 2019, 10:05:53 AM
This game was lost in the first 5 minutes of the first period. Boston came out swinging and Toronto came out ducking and reaching. They handled the puck like it was a live grenade and this is not a good way to play hockey.
They turned it into a dump and chase game and you're not going to win a dump and chase game against the Bruins. Not the way they were stapling everything to the wall.

As for Kadri, he has to be smarter. I get that he feels he's responding to the Marleau hit, but there are far better ways to do that. His emotions constantly get the better of him. You know why Marchand and Gallagher are so effective? Because they know when to reel it in. Kadri tries to walk the same line but he has no self control. He should be suspended for that play. I'm guessing 3 games again. If so, he has let down his team again. That's two playoffs in a row. That's unacceptable IMO.

I have to watch the knee on knee again, but Kadri jumped, and we all know that jumping when someone is trying to hit you is never a good move. Especially not on those open ice hits.

No game is ever lost in the first five minutes of the first period.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on April 14, 2019, 10:10:29 AM
Also, we need to allow swearing on these boards for situations like this.  :)
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 10:10:35 AM
This game was lost in the first 5 minutes of the first period. Boston came out swinging and Toronto came out ducking and reaching. They handled the puck like it was a live grenade and this is not a good way to play hockey.
They turned it into a dump and chase game and you're not going to win a dump and chase game against the Bruins. Not the way they were stapling everything to the wall.

As for Kadri, he has to be smarter. I get that he feels he's responding to the Marleau hit, but there are far better ways to do that. His emotions constantly get the better of him. You know why Marchand and Gallagher are so effective? Because they know when to reel it in. Kadri tries to walk the same line but he has no self control. He should be suspended for that play. I'm guessing 3 games again. If so, he has let down his team again. That's two playoffs in a row. That's unacceptable IMO.

I have to watch the knee on knee again, but Kadri jumped, and we all know that jumping when someone is trying to hit you is never a good move. Especially not on those open ice hits.

No game is ever lost in the first five minutes of the first period.


Yeah it was only 1-0 at that point and the entire game to play. Had the refs called it fairly who knows what the outcome would have been.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 14, 2019, 10:15:55 AM
I think that if you handicap the bizarro Nylander gaffe, the one sided refereeing, and the home ice energy level amping up the bruins to an level that can't be sustained through the series, it could have been a very close game.

Every indication I've seen out of the last few games is that the leafs are a better opposition than last year. Maybe I'm being overly positive, but I like this team.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:21:56 AM
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 10:25:17 AM
I think that if you handicap the bizarro Nylander gaffe, the one sided refereeing, and the home ice energy level amping up the bruins to an level that can't be sustained through the series, it could have been a very close game.

Every indication I've seen out of the last few games is that the leafs are a better opposition than last year. Maybe I'm being overly positive, but I like this team.


I'm not worried yet. With Kadri out I think Nylander should play 3rd line center with Ennis and Moore. Have Marleau drop to 4th line duties with Brown and Gauthier (although Babs would never do this , but that 3rd line with Ennis and Moore would give Boston fits)
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 10:27:05 AM
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.


I tend to agree with you. His contract is very good and his value around the league would still be fairly high. Would solve the Leafs upcoming cap crunch by moving him. He's a great player but you can't have a loose cannon who may get suspended come playoff time as he's done the last 2 years.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:27:42 AM
Matthews being extremely diplomatic when asked about the reffing.
If Matthews doesn't move into beast mode for the next game then we are done, Nylander only figured it out minutes into the 3rd and started to play. Marner seemed to be trying but nothing bounced his way.
To be honest, if Matthews continues over the next few years to play this way, I would consider moving him to Arizona when McDavid wants to come out of the oilfields.
Matthews is 6'3" 220, time to hit someone and get the mojo going, we need you.
Offseason modeling doesn't cut it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 14, 2019, 10:30:20 AM

I think this is probably playing a lot in Kadri getting a bigger suspension that people might have originally thought. Especially after Tom Wilson's last suspension.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bates on April 14, 2019, 10:30:57 AM
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Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:33:21 AM
This really isn't a disaster. We didn't get the PPs or the bounces, but apart from Nylander, the pushback and compete level as a whole was great to see.

Hey, if Toronto fans were offered a split coming out of Boston, who wouldn't be pleased?

Apart from Nylander? What about Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen?

They competed. Nylander was an abject disaster tonight.
I disagree to a point, Nylander was asleep for two periods and then something woke him up, I think he played a strong 3rd, I just posted about Matthews and want to add.  Matthews has another level, he is not playing at it or close to it. He has to find a way to channel his overdrive, cause if he does the Leafs will win this series, if he doesn't....then more of the same.....golf and modelling.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 14, 2019, 10:36:19 AM

I think this is probably playing a lot in Kadri getting a bigger suspension that people might have originally thought. Especially after Tom Wilson's last suspension.

Yeah, I think you're right. I'd forgotten about the Backstrom one. I think we're in 5-7 territory.

I know it's just guesswork and homer bias, but looking at the video, I really think Naz was trying to get him in the upper shoulder with the cross check, and it went high.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:40:48 AM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
Long time lurker here and i didnt expect a win tonight but the refs are to blame when this gets out of hand. I know it is the playoffs and you they let a bit more slide but there is a line and it is more for the cluching, grabbing and the battles. Not late hits. High hits. Knee on knee. I know i am obviously going to be a bit biased but no sane hockey fan can watch this and think the refs arent having a complete nightmare.

Thanks i am going back into the shadows.

You should post more.  The more the merrier, as they say.
Ditto as you do have a brain unlike other posters here with 9 in there monikers.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 10:53:30 AM
we could just do it back to them although Kadri will end up in the box or possibly suspended.
That was almost Psychic at this point out in the game STA but in some ways predictable. Can you pick my Lottery numbers for me?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 14, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.

I think you're both wrong. His contract isn't a steal and it isn't terrible. It's just right. It's appropriate, and that's OK.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: RedLeaf on April 14, 2019, 10:59:30 AM
After watching the highlights of the game again Iíd forgotten how many roughing penalties DeBrusk should have been given, not to mention the deliberate looking knee on knee that was completely  blatant.

I donít agree with the Kadri hit, but I completely understand his built-up frustration and uncontrolled response to the abuse he was taking to that point. Some people can take that without retribution but others just arenít wired to.

Iím generally not one to blame the referees influence on the outcome of a game, and have to believe the NHL has told them to put away their whistles in the playoffs for the smaller infractions. There were obvious plays and infractions that crossed the line of being fair on both sides of the ice , but the balance of that scale certainly tipped more in the Bruins direction.

Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 11:05:19 AM
After watching the highlights of the game again Iíd forgotten how many roughing penalties DeBrusk should have been given, not to mention the deliberate looking knee on knee that was completely  blatant.

I donít agree with the Kadri hit, but I completely understand his built-up frustration and uncontrolled response to the abuse he was taking to that point. Some people can take that without retribution but others just arenít wired to.

Iím generally not one to blame the referees influence on the outcome of a game, and have to believe the NHL has told them to put away their whistles in the playoffs for the smaller infractions. There were obvious plays and infractions that crossed the line of being fair on both sides of the ice , but the balance of that scale certainly tipped more in the Bruins direction.
Hey Redleaf, I usually don't complain about the refereeing but this game was terribly one sided. Who put Krug out of the game, thats the kind of clean hits we have to start throwing more often, only way to beat the Bruins....we still have time to kill some Bears.  ;)
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: RedLeaf on April 14, 2019, 11:27:13 AM
After watching the highlights of the game again Iíd forgotten how many roughing penalties DeBrusk should have been given, not to mention the deliberate looking knee on knee that was completely  blatant.

I donít agree with the Kadri hit, but I completely understand his built-up frustration and uncontrolled response to the abuse he was taking to that point. Some people can take that without retribution but others just arenít wired to.

Iím generally not one to blame the referees influence on the outcome of a game, and have to believe the NHL has told them to put away their whistles in the playoffs for the smaller infractions. There were obvious plays and infractions that crossed the line of being fair on both sides of the ice , but the balance of that scale certainly tipped more in the Bruins direction.
Hey Redleaf, I usually don't complain about the refereeing but this game was terribly one sided. Who put Krug out of the game, thats the kind of clean hits we have to start throwing more often, only way to beat the Bruins....we still have time to kill some Bears.  ;)

That was a beautiful hit by Muzzin.

Watching the Leafs last night against this physical Bruins team, you canít help think that the Leafs need more sound defencemen with the ability to dish those types of hits out in order to take their game to the next level. Iím sure no matter what the outcome this spring, Dubas will be looking to do just that this offseason.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 14, 2019, 11:32:52 AM
This game was lost in the first 5 minutes of the first period. Boston came out swinging and Toronto came out ducking and reaching. They handled the puck like it was a live grenade and this is not a good way to play hockey.
They turned it into a dump and chase game and you're not going to win a dump and chase game against the Bruins. Not the way they were stapling everything to the wall.

As for Kadri, he has to be smarter. I get that he feels he's responding to the Marleau hit, but there are far better ways to do that. His emotions constantly get the better of him. You know why Marchand and Gallagher are so effective? Because they know when to reel it in. Kadri tries to walk the same line but he has no self control. He should be suspended for that play. I'm guessing 3 games again. If so, he has let down his team again. That's two playoffs in a row. That's unacceptable IMO.

I have to watch the knee on knee again, but Kadri jumped, and we all know that jumping when someone is trying to hit you is never a good move. Especially not on those open ice hits.

No game is ever lost in the first five minutes of the first period.


Yeah it was only 1-0 at that point and the entire game to play. Had the refs called it fairly who knows what the outcome would have been.

That's great, and I understand what you're saying but:

1-I wasn't being literal
2-The Bruins came to play. The Leafs didn't
3-The Leafs played scared
4-Blaming the refs for a loss where you were completely outplayed, outmuscled and out worked is lazy. You can't control the refs. You can only control your play. Boston was the better team. Game over.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
After watching the highlights of the game again Iíd forgotten how many roughing penalties DeBrusk should have been given, not to mention the deliberate looking knee on knee that was completely  blatant.

I donít agree with the Kadri hit, but I completely understand his built-up frustration and uncontrolled response to the abuse he was taking to that point. Some people can take that without retribution but others just arenít wired to.

Iím generally not one to blame the referees influence on the outcome of a game, and have to believe the NHL has told them to put away their whistles in the playoffs for the smaller infractions. There were obvious plays and infractions that crossed the line of being fair on both sides of the ice , but the balance of that scale certainly tipped more in the Bruins direction.
Hey Redleaf, I usually don't complain about the refereeing but this game was terribly one sided. Who put Krug out of the game, thats the kind of clean hits we have to start throwing more often, only way to beat the Bruins....we still have time to kill some Bears.  ;)

That was a beautiful hit by Muzzin.

Watching the Leafs last night against this physical Bruins team, you canít help think that the Leafs need more sound defencemen with the ability to dish those types of hits out in order to take their game to the next level. Iím sure no matter what the outcome this spring, Dubas will be looking to do just that this offseason.
Heard a couple of good things about Rasanen, 6'6' skating good, reach well what can you say (huge)...but he likes to hit hard..lets hope we can get a couple of tough bastards back there. Hope we can retain Muzzin after next season.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Frycer14 on April 14, 2019, 11:54:12 AM
Watching the Leafs last night against this physical Bruins team, you canít help think that the Leafs need more sound defencemen with the ability to dish those types of hits out in order to take their game to the next level. Iím sure no matter what the outcome this spring, Dubas will be looking to do just that this offseason.

If there's one thing that's been fairly consistent about Dubas, it's his lack of priority on size/grit. I doubt he'll make any sort of move that pulls a player in if he can't skate and pass as top strengths.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 14, 2019, 11:57:31 AM
So after sleeping on it and browsing some of the comments from this morning, some thoughts...
1) Kadri will get at least 3 and probably 5 games.
2) Reffing was absolutely ridiculous last night, had to be the worst game I've seen in years in that regard.
3) Someone posted that the Leafs looked or played scared. I think they were definitely hearing footsteps. Lots of perimeter play, lots of dumping the puck rather than playing through physical contact. Especially notable in this regard were Matthews and Nylander but Marner and to a lesser degree Marleau as well. I think this led to lots of the puck bobbling and bad passes. Kadri thrives in that type of game but unfortunately when things reach a certain point he cannot control himself.
4) Gauthier...I mean, he does some things well and is generally not a negative factor out there but I don't think I've ever seen a guy so big go down so easily from contact. He also misses on most of his checking attempts (lots of running into the boards). If he has any level of aggression in him, game 3 would be a good time to show it.
5) Andersen for MVP so far
6) Gardiner and Dermot seem to still be in recovery mode, hopefully they can pick up their play as the series goes on.
7) PP, or lack thereof, is really starting to hurt this team. How about changing things up and moving Matthews around to the right side for some one-timer opportunities. Right now he is taking too long to get his shot off from the current set up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 11:59:08 AM
It *was* a close game until the Kadri penalty.  I don't think we were going to pull it out, but it was close.  With them getting to play headhunters all night.  Amped up.  Desperate. Crowd into it.  Benefiting from an unspeakable gaffe.  And playing good Bruins defensive hockey.

What I'm saying is G1|G2|2018>>>G1|G2|2017.  Andersen looks great.  Loss of Kadri may be a blessing in disguise, that much less temptation to mix it up with their agitators.  (BTW where did Physical Pastrnak come from?  He was blasting guys all nite.) 

And we now have home ice.

This team is in 100% better place this year than last year at this point.  Now Matthews needs to step up, major-like, in G2 and G3.  If he does, we'll take the series.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 14, 2019, 12:01:23 PM
Chris, your point about the PP goes against the optimistic grain I just highlighted in my previous post, but it's true.  The Leafs had 3 chances to get themselves back into the game and didn't get it done, and can only blame themselves (the refs did give them a few chances after all), and while the PP wasn't godawful, ithe passing is way way too slow.  They need to get that going immediately ... but so far haven't shown they can, since October.

And oh, it would be nice if Nylander would drive the net once or twice a game.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 14, 2019, 12:02:51 PM
I know many are sticking with the ďwe got the splitĒ narrative, but now we got a split and lost a centre.  Itís frustrating.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: L K on April 14, 2019, 12:02:51 PM
The one thing I will say is that Andersen made a half dozen ridiculous saves that kept the game close.  This easily could have ended up a bigger blowout without him making some absurd saves.  I don't think the Leafs necessarily played awful but I'm not sure that I would take as much away from this game as a positive.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: RedLeaf on April 14, 2019, 12:11:44 PM
Watching the Leafs last night against this physical Bruins team, you canít help think that the Leafs need more sound defencemen with the ability to dish those types of hits out in order to take their game to the next level. Iím sure no matter what the outcome this spring, Dubas will be looking to do just that this offseason.

If there's one thing that's been fairly consistent about Dubas, it's his lack of priority on size/grit. I doubt he'll make any sort of move that pulls a player in if he can't skate and pass as top strengths.

I agree. I didnít say anything about an inability to skate and pass.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 14, 2019, 01:01:03 PM
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: LuncheonMeat on April 14, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
It *was* a close game until the Kadri penalty.  I don't think we were going to pull it out, but it was close.  With them getting to play headhunters all night.  Amped up.  Desperate. Crowd into it.  Benefiting from an unspeakable gaffe.  And playing good Bruins defensive hockey.

What I'm saying is G1|G2|2018>>>G1|G2|2017.  Andersen looks great.  Loss of Kadri may be a blessing in disguise, that much less temptation to mix it up with their agitators. (BTW where did Physical Pastrnak come from?  He was blasting guys all nite.) 

And we now have home ice.

This team is in 100% better place this year than last year at this point.  Now Matthews needs to step up, major-like, in G2 and G3.  If he does, we'll take the series.

I sort of agree with this. I think this series goes better without the back and forth of Kadri and the Bruins.

When I saw Kadri deliver that crosscheck, it immediately reminded me of Domi taking out Scott Niedermayer years ago. I realize it's a completely different situation, but the feeling of 'oh man, what have you done' afterward was instant, and exactly the same. The feeling that one event could turn a series in a bad way. After time to reflect on it, maybe in this case a suspension will be a blessing. I guess we'll find out.  :-\
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 14, 2019, 01:10:28 PM
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews, could live with

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Brown (or Moore)
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Andy on April 14, 2019, 01:25:38 PM
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews



Those are exactly the lines I'm hoping for (but not expecting). Moore/Marleau/Kapanen could be a very strong 3rd line and Matthews and Nylander shouldn't be split up.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 14, 2019, 01:29:10 PM
Haha. Avery and his 2 cents.

https://www.bardown.com/sean-avery-sounded-off-on-jake-debrusk-s-marleau-hit-nazem-kadri-s-response-1.1290410
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews, could live with

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Brown (or Moore)

Get ready to hate then. Moore will not move off the 4th line. I'd be shocked. Brown will get moved up, and Ennis will likely come in.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 14, 2019, 01:51:54 PM

"Avoided penalties" lmao

O.J Simpson avoided murdering anyone.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on April 14, 2019, 01:54:33 PM
Haha. Avery and his 2 cents.

https://www.bardown.com/sean-avery-sounded-off-on-jake-debrusk-s-marleau-hit-nazem-kadri-s-response-1.1290410
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews, could live with

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Brown (or Moore)

Get ready to hate then. Moore will not move off the 4th line. I'd be shocked. Brown will get moved up, and Ennis will likely come in.
I could live with Brown getting moved up but Marleau with Matthews...has that ever worked?

Avery is hilarious. Wonder if Matthews has ever been in a fight?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 02:31:49 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: disco on April 14, 2019, 02:39:19 PM
When we got Muzz I said his clean hits would come in handy in a series. Levelled Krug and he's out, a blow for them. One things for sure: the Leafs and Bruins and beating the hell out of each other in a Conference Final calibre match-up in the first round. Whoever goes on will have paid a stiff price. I won't chip in on anything else cuz it'll all been said.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 14, 2019, 02:42:20 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
They all have to get going, not just Matthews. It's not just on him even tho the focus will be.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 02:50:19 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
They all have to get going, not just Matthews. It's not just on him even tho the focus will be.
Matthews, Tavares and Marner are their best players. If your best players don't play well you have no shot. With those 2 lines dominating for 40+ minutes of the game it goes a long way towards helping you win. Matthews two straight games held pointless. It feels a alot like last year again.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 14, 2019, 02:56:43 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 14, 2019, 03:12:40 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.
I agree with you. Maybe Babs will surprise us but I doubt it. He wasn't playing Nylander with Matthews anyway.
And Zee, while he's been held pointless, this doesn't feel like last year. He played well in game 1 and was arguably our most dangerous forward in game 2. He's also played better defensively this time around. Do I want more? Absolutely, but I want more from all of our top end guys.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 03:16:43 PM
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.


Wasn't just Matthews last night. The Tavares line was shut down by the Bruins 4th line. That can't happen. They should have feasted not playing against Bergeron but they didn't. If they're going well , in game adjustments by Cassidy would get Matthews a more favorable matchup as he worried about Tavares. When both lines aren't going you get what we saw last night.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 14, 2019, 03:25:12 PM
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on April 14, 2019, 03:27:46 PM
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.


I think this will pick up steam especially if Leafs lose this series. I didn't think they would look to deal Kadri until the final year of his contract since it's such a good number for him; but when he does stuff like this that really hurts the team you have to think twice about keeping him around. He just doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 14, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.


I think this will pick up steam especially if Leafs lose this series. I didn't think they would look to deal Kadri until the final year of his contract since it's such a good number for him; but when he does stuff like this that really hurts the team you have to think twice about keeping him around. He just doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes.
Add to this quite correct view, that they could use a right shot D and I think the path for a Dubas becomes clear.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: mr grieves on April 14, 2019, 04:33:50 PM
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.

I don't think the league gives one whit and I don't see Kadri getting anything less than 5.

You could be right, of course.  I might be indulging in a wishful lust for co-justice and responsibility.

More likely that Player Safety does what it does with Kadri and the refs tighten up on calling things the rest of the way, I'd think.

But looking ahead... they're at least in a better spot this year with Nylander slotting into 3C rather than Plekanec into 2C.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: jdh1 on April 14, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
  I blame the NHL for the this game last night.They let hitting to take place over and beyond what I thought was eliminated from the game.

 For example when a player has the puck and then passes it off. The opposing player has a right to check or hit the player. However once the puck is in transition to another player,hitting the player that has already passed the puck amounts to interference and a penalty should be called.
This is what the Bruins resorted to,is just hit players whenever they could whether the puck was elsewhere or not.  In my opinion that,s what causes retaliation and a violent game follows.
I may have incorrectly understood that this was taken out of the game. I,m surprised that the referee s allowed that last night.
Is the NHL going back to the goon like hitting ? I see no talent being displayed when players are running at others causing interference.

If so, Dubas might have to get a couple of goons on the squad.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Leaffan61 on April 14, 2019, 04:39:36 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.
Nylander will be traded in the summer for a RHD and cap space. Book it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: jdh1 on April 14, 2019, 04:53:09 PM
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isnít an xfactor.   Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.   I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.
Nylander will be traded in the summer for a RHD and cap space. Book it.
Do you think that Dubas can unload Nylander who is playing at half of what his cap hit is worth.This was a stupid signing and I wanted them to trade him rather than sign him and I mentioned that a couple of times on the board. He single handed  cooled the whole team when he came back. He will not be an easy dump after the season unless he gets serious about playing in these playoffs.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: TML fan on April 14, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Is Lee Stempniak available? Can we do that again?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 14, 2019, 06:59:08 PM
Can the Nylander bashers start a new thread for their trade ideas?

No kidding!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Joe S. on April 14, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
Leafs fans are heeeeelarious
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: jdh1 on April 14, 2019, 07:58:15 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
   I,m sorry I hurt your feelings on Nylander.   If you want to start a new thread on him ,go ahead. 
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 14, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
   I,m sorry I hurt your feelings on Nylander.   If you want to start a new thread on him ,go ahead.
One lost game and we're attacking each other. Seems normal.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on April 14, 2019, 08:16:29 PM
Is Lee Stempniak available? Can we do that again?
Maybe Adam Larsson is available!!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 08:18:36 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
   I,m sorry I hurt your feelings on Nylander.   If you want to start a new thread on him ,go ahead.

No donít worry about my feelings. I just thought youíd need your own space with likeminded folk to share ideas with.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bates on April 14, 2019, 08:22:49 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
   I,m sorry I hurt your feelings on Nylander.   If you want to start a new thread on him ,go ahead.

No donít worry about my feelings. I just thought youíd need your own space with likeminded folk to share ideas with.

Odd comment from a guy who introduced Racism into the thread??
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: herman on April 14, 2019, 08:24:21 PM
I also invented it.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: jdh1 on April 14, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Can you guys start a new thread for your Nylander trade ideas?
   I,m sorry I hurt your feelings on Nylander.   If you want to start a new thread on him ,go ahead.
One lost game and we're attacking each other. Seems normal.
That,s a bit strong"attacking each other"  I respect every ones post.May not agree but still respect. Other wise what's the point in having a discussion.
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on April 14, 2019, 10:36:30 PM
I also invented it.

I knew it!
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 14, 2019, 10:38:36 PM
Herman the German, how did we miss this?
Title: Re: Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
Post by: cabber24 on April 15, 2019, 09:56:19 AM
Kadri made his own bed. History of diving, cheap shots and whining. Obviously, if it was Matthews or Marner clutching their knee it would at least have been a penalty.