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Title: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 05, 2018, 08:52:56 PM
New season, new things:

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 05, 2018, 08:57:11 PM
Pre-season games schedule:
http://marlies.ca/article/2018-preseason-schedule (http://marlies.ca/article/2018-preseason-schedule)

Regular season games schedule:
http://marlies.ca/article/1819-schedule-announcement (http://marlies.ca/article/1819-schedule-announcement)

The Calder Cup Champions will have their banner raised on opening night October 8th versus the Cleveland Monsters.  Will certainly be a 'monster' of a moment as it will be the first time a  championship banner will be raised won by a professional Toronto hockey outfit in decades collectively.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on September 07, 2018, 03:08:42 AM
Power rankings for players who will form the Marlies' season roster:

1. Garrett Sparks
2  Timothy Liljegren
3.  Carl Grundstrom
4.  Josh Jooria
5.  Adam Cracknell

https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/18/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-power-rankings/ (https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/18/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-power-rankings/)


6.  Chris Mueller
7.  Trevor Moore
8.  Calvin Pickard

https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/19/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-rankings-two/ (https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/19/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-rankings-two/)


9.  Martin Marincin
10. Calle Rosen
11. Pierre Engvall

https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/21/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-rankings-four/ (https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/21/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-rankings-four/)


12. Jordan Subban
13. Jeremy Bracco
14. Andreas Borgman

https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/25/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-part-four/ (https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/25/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-part-four/)


15. Adam Brooks
16. Mason Marchment
17. Vincent LoVerde

https://editorinleaf.com/2018/09/01/toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-rankings-five/
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 04, 2018, 11:18:20 AM

Took me about 5 minutes to realize that this wasn't Justin Peters, who the Marlies had at camp on a PTO. 32-turning-33 year old journeyman goalie. Was drafted by the sens and spent 8 years in Europe after he couldn't break into the NHL. Last season he had a 0.904 save percentage in 28 AHL games, and played for Chicago when they had all their goalie injuries and recorded a 0.898 save percentage in 15 games there. That was his only stint in the NHL.

Not exactly the greatest goalie option, so let's hope Korpisalo can carry the load for now.

edit: Kaskisuo, whatever.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on October 04, 2018, 11:25:27 AM

Took me about 5 minutes to realize that this wasn't Justin Peters, who the Marlies had at camp on a PTO. 32-turning-33 year old journeyman goalie. Was drafted by the sens and spent 8 years in Europe after he couldn't break into the NHL. Last season he had a 0.904 save percentage in 28 AHL games, and played for Chicago when they had all their goalie injuries and recorded a 0.898 save percentage in 15 games there. That was his only stint in the NHL.

Not exactly the greatest goalie option, so let's hope Korpisalo can carry the load for now.

edit: Kaskisuo, whatever.
McBackup could be waived when Darling comes back from injury in Carolina.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: OldTimeHockey on October 04, 2018, 04:31:11 PM

McBackup could be waived when Darling comes back from injury in Carolina.

Can you pick up a player on waivers and immediately assign them to the AHL? Would he have to be waived again to go down?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 04, 2018, 04:48:54 PM

McBackup could be waived when Darling comes back from injury in Carolina.

Can you pick up a player on waivers and immediately assign them to the AHL? Would he have to be waived again to go down?

If it's a player we initially waived that got claimed and then waived again by the second team, we the originating team have the first-dibs option to claim said player and if the originating team is the only claim placed then they can immediately place him in the minors. See Seth Griffith's adventure with Toronto (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2017/1/20/14337304/seth-griffith-is-back-toronto-maple-leafs-marlies).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 05, 2018, 11:01:56 AM
Good article previewing the Marlies' roster this season, their first game is tonight at 7pm: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/10/04/toronto-marlies-2018-19-season-preview-roster-notes-projected-opening-night-lines/

The projected line-up from the article seems a little off as this is what Scott Wheeler has them going with:

Grundstrom-Mueller-Gagner
Engvall-Jooris-Bracco
Timashov-Cracknell-Moore
Clark-Greening-Piccinich

Rosen-Liljegren
Borgman-LoVerde
Nielsen-Subban

Kaskisuo
Glass

Injured players at the moment are Sandin, Brooks, and Marchment. Sandin's injury is somewhat long-term, the Sault Star is reporting he'll be out 4-6 weeks with an undisclosed thumb injury.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: OldTimeHockey on October 05, 2018, 02:52:55 PM

McBackup could be waived when Darling comes back from injury in Carolina.

Can you pick up a player on waivers and immediately assign them to the AHL? Would he have to be waived again to go down?

If it's a player we initially waived that got claimed and then waived again by the second team, we the originating team have the first-dibs option to claim said player and if the originating team is the only claim placed then they can immediately place him in the minors. See Seth Griffith's adventure with Toronto (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2017/1/20/14337304/seth-griffith-is-back-toronto-maple-leafs-marlies).

Thanks man.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 05, 2018, 04:14:55 PM

McBackup could be waived when Darling comes back from injury in Carolina.

Can you pick up a player on waivers and immediately assign them to the AHL? Would he have to be waived again to go down?

If it's a player we initially waived that got claimed and then waived again by the second team, we the originating team have the first-dibs option to claim said player and if the originating team is the only claim placed then they can immediately place him in the minors. See Seth Griffith's adventure with Toronto (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2017/1/20/14337304/seth-griffith-is-back-toronto-maple-leafs-marlies).

I don't believe the original club has first dibs.  The standard waiver wire order is in play (ie section 13.19). 

Quote
13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently,
in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the
successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled
to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being
asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative)
and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful
claim.

Hence the need for the original club to be both "successful" AND the only one to make a claim for them to be allowed to be assigned to the minors.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 06, 2018, 12:04:45 AM
I don't believe the original club has first dibs.  The standard waiver wire order is in play (ie section 13.19). 

Quote
13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently,
in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the
successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled
to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being
asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative)
and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful
claim.

Hence the need for the original club to be both "successful" AND the only one to make a claim for them to be allowed to be assigned to the minors.

I think you are correct, good sir. I know not where I might have heard that falsehood.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 06, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Marlies 7-3 over Utica.  Supposedly Engvall was the best player on the ice and scored a beaut of a snip.  Also Subban played great! 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 06, 2018, 01:04:41 PM
Marlies 7-3 over Utica.  Supposedly Engvall was the best player on the ice and scored a beaut of a snip.  Also Subban played great!

And Trevor Moore nabbed a couple of goals.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 07, 2018, 01:10:59 PM
in the a Funny thing thread on Main Leafs news I mentioned Borgman as a possible replacement.  I copied this from PPP on last nights Marlies game. Sounds like Glass played like Freddie last night.

But back to Borg. The 23-year-old defenseman looked so confident on and off the puck all night. He had a goal in this game following several good opportunities all night, he was strong in his skating, which allowed him to keep his gaps close and be on top of the Devils forwards all night, and he kept up his physicality, especially on the penalty kill, where he was pretty much mistake free
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 09, 2018, 05:53:13 AM
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/10/09/toronto-marlies-gm-laurence-gilman-my-biggest-task-is-not-to-screw-it-up-it-is-a-well-run-ship-this-is-very-much-like-a-national-hockey-league-team-with-the-way-that-it-is-operated/

The URL says it all
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 09, 2018, 05:58:51 AM
I would also be remiss to mention that Sam Gagner, childhood friend and rival of John Tavares, notable Maple Leaf, is tearing it up for the Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 09, 2018, 05:36:21 PM
GM Gilman pretty excited to have a veteran (or two) like Gagner:

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 14, 2018, 02:17:34 PM
The Marlies have signed a pair of former NHL defencemen to PTOs: Kyle Cumiskey and Ryan Sproul. They were with the team in training camp and might see some game action now.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 15, 2018, 02:52:00 AM
Oh, oh...

In reference to the Marlies 7-4 loss Saturday to the Utica Comets:

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
Its a small sample of games, let see where they are at in a week
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on October 15, 2018, 12:02:48 PM
Oh, oh...

In reference to the Marlies 7-4 loss Saturday to the Utica Comets:

Darling was on the ice in Carolina this week. When he returns they will likely waive McElhinney? I could see WAS and TOR putting in waiver claims.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2018, 02:41:27 PM
Oh, oh...

In reference to the Marlies 7-4 loss Saturday to the Utica Comets:

Darling was on the ice in Carolina this week. When he returns they will likely waive McElhinney? I could see WAS and TOR putting in waiver claims.
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 15, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
why did you propagate so?  ;)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on October 15, 2018, 02:57:01 PM
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
The team who has the least percentage of obtainable points to date gets waiver priority.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 15, 2018, 03:39:19 PM
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
The team who has the least percentage of obtainable points to date gets waiver priority.

Two more misconceptions here:

1.  In the first month (ie October) of the season, the team that finished lowest in the standings the previous year has priority.

2.  " if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately"... we can be successful in claiming either of them, but we also have to be the only one to put in a waiver claim.  So, for instance, we would be successful if teams like Vegas, Tampa, Boston, Nashville, or Winnipeg (they all finished higher than us last year... see misconception #1)  also put in a claim but then we couldn't immediately send them to the Marlies
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 22, 2018, 11:00:10 AM

Just to make every possible thread about Nylander, Trevor Moore is yet another example of the development team making a strong case for resolving the cap crunch with a steady stream of Marlie graduates who can step in and play so that players like Nylander can be appropriately paid.

Most people might be thinking, who the f is Trevor Moore anyway. If you caught the Calder Cup last season, he was right there alongside Andreas Johnsson in effectiveness, but playing from the bottom of the lineup. He's a waterbug through the neutral zone, a zone exit and entry machine, plays smartly above the puck so coaches love him, and takes pucks with aplomb; the only knock is that he is smallish and was undrafted.

Dubas picked him up for the Marlies in 2016 after identifying him for a rookie dev camp tryout. He made the #15 slot in this offseason's PPP T25U25 (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/8/14/17672804/2018-top-25-under-25-15-trevor-moore-has-a-shot-with-the-toronto-maple-leafs-toronto-marlies-lineup).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2018, 11:26:31 AM

FRANKIE'S BACK
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 22, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Omg
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Goaliedave31 on October 22, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
I agree Herman. The Blackhawks were able to maintain a winning team for years by constantly bringing in players that had developed in the AHL or Europe. The Leafs may have to move Kadri in order to facilitate keeping Matthews, Marner and Nylander, but the blow will be lessened if players such as Moore and Grundstrom and Engvall can successfully make the jump to the NHL.
Just to make every possible thread about Nylander, Trevor Moore is yet another example of the development team making a strong case for resolving the cap crunch with a steady stream of Marlie graduates who can step in and play so that players like Nylander can be appropriately paid.

Most people might be thinking, who the f is Trevor Moore anyway. If you caught the Calder Cup last season, he was right there alongside Andreas Johnsson in effectiveness, but playing from the bottom of the lineup. He's a waterbug through the neutral zone, a zone exit and entry machine, plays smartly above the puck so coaches love him, and takes pucks with aplomb; the only knock is that he is smallish and was undrafted.

Dubas picked him up for the Marlies in 2016 after identifying him for a rookie dev camp tryout. He made the #15 slot in this offseason's PPP T25U25 (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/8/14/17672804/2018-top-25-under-25-15-trevor-moore-has-a-shot-with-the-toronto-maple-leafs-toronto-marlies-lineup).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on October 22, 2018, 11:34:33 AM
Scott Darling on a conditioning stint. McBackup going back to the waiver wire?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2018, 11:36:39 AM
Omg

Gilman and Corrado were BFFs back in their Vancouver days (presumably, at the very least Gilman was the AGM there during Corrado's drafting/development phase). Gilman was fired the summer before the Canucks lost Corrado on waivers.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Frank E on October 22, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
I thought the Marlies were pretty flush with d-men?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2018, 11:58:57 AM
I thought the Marlies were pretty flush with d-men?

This has typically been their defence corps this season:

Rosen-Liljegren
Borgman-LoVerde
Nielsen-Subban
 
It's not bad, but losing Dermott and Holl was a pretty big blow to them. I'm guessing Corrado, LoVerde, and Subban will all rotate in and out of the line-up on the right side.

I think this is pretty similar to the Gagner situation. A local player who should be an upper echelon AHL guy wanted to play close to home and Gilman jumped at the chance to add to a position where there isn't a lot of prospect depth.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 22, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
I thought the Marlies were pretty flush with d-men?

Mostly on the left side:

LD:
Rosen
Borgman
Neilsen
Sandin*
Cumiskey
Jardine

RD:
Liljegren
Loverde
Subban
Corrado
Sproul

* Injured

With the number of 3 in 3 weekends the Marlies have over the span of the season, you need more guys than the typical NHL roster.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 22, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
With the number of 3 in 3 weekends the Marlies have over the span of the season, you need more guys than the typical NHL roster.

Unless I missed an announcement, Sproul and Cumiskey are also both on PTO's at the moment so they might not be hanging around.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on October 22, 2018, 12:40:27 PM
Scott Darling on a conditioning stint. McBackup going back to the waiver wire?

Possibly. Outside his record, his numbers aren't great - better than Mrazek, but still not good - and the cap saving is the same, regardless of which gets sent their AHL affiliate. Coin-flip on which of the two they decide to hold on to.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Frank E on October 22, 2018, 12:45:39 PM
The Marlies' goaltending isn't looking great either, but I don't know what the underlying defensive numbers look like.  Glass at .875 and Kaskisuo at .860, so far.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on October 22, 2018, 12:46:46 PM

FRANKIE'S BACK

Did he just leapfrog Jordan Subban on the depth chart?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 22, 2018, 01:05:48 PM
Gilman and Corrado were BFFs back in their Vancouver days (presumably, at the very least Gilman was the AGM there during Corrado's drafting/development phase). Gilman was fired the summer before the Canucks lost Corrado on waivers.

Seems like quite a bit of unfinished business Gilman is picking back up. Let's see if the dev team can Justin Holl Frankie back to form.

Possibly. Outside his record, his numbers aren't great - better than Mrazek, but still not good - and the cap saving is the same, regardless of which gets sent their AHL affiliate. Coin-flip on which of the two they decide to hold on to.

This is another one of those areas where MLSE's nigh unlimited funds gives the Leafs a leg up on smaller markets. The Leafs can afford to blow a lot of cash on carrying nearly two teams worth of Marlies where there is no cap and no roster limit (on top of the development, nutrition, sports science, amenities spending), so even though McElhinney's a fully buriable hit, the one-way contract makes it a 6-figure amount (850k) that other teams want to avoid for their minor league expenses.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 22, 2018, 01:14:57 PM
I agree Herman. The Blackhawks were able to maintain a winning team for years by constantly bringing in players that had developed in the AHL or Europe. The Leafs may have to move Kadri in order to facilitate keeping Matthews, Marner and Nylander, but the blow will be lessened if players such as Moore and Grundstrom and Engvall can successfully make the jump to the NHL.

I think we still have a lot of value left in the Kadri contract. Unless there is a centre prospect really banging down the doors, there are better options for making future cap space (Zaitsev).

These Marlie seniors are options for backfilling the depth lines (4th line, 3rd pairing) on bare minimum cap hits, with familiarity with our systems and ripened skillsets. They're not meant to perform at core-player level, but as 2-3 year temporaries that will spin up some value. On the off-chance that one defies all expectations and plays his way into a Jonathan Marchessault type season, then we get the opportunity to score bigger on a trade either for that player or the core piece that he displaces.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 23, 2018, 11:06:49 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 ;D
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Post by: Zee on October 24, 2018, 08:44:50 AM
Invalid Tweet ID
 ;D

Right out of the Liljegren playbook
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 24, 2018, 10:34:56 AM
Invalid Tweet ID
 ;D

Right out of the Liljegren playbook

From the very small sample I saw of him with the Marlies in dev camp, Sandin looks more defensively mature than most of the prospects/fringe and even some Leafs, so it'll be a matter of adjusting to the speed and strength of his opponents and learning how to work through all of that. Improvements to his skating (a la Dermott) will make him very difficult to get around or knock off the puck.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 25, 2018, 04:44:23 PM

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on October 25, 2018, 07:05:57 PM

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.
What they going to do when the Borg is recalled?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 26, 2018, 10:30:54 AM

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.

They almost had to choose Corrado over both.  Both of the other guys have AHL Veteran status.  You can only dress a limited number of AHL veterans per game.  Leafs are always up against that limit (LoVerde, Muller, etc) so unless one of those guys comes out, you aren't really able to play either of the two on PTO's very often.  Corrado is just under the AHL Veteran limit so he can get cycled in regularly.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2016/12/7/13855804/toronto-marlies-ahl-development-player-veteran-rule-karri-ramo-mapleleafs-laich-clune-greening
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on October 26, 2018, 10:37:35 AM
McElhinney and Pickard likely to hit the waiver wire very soon.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 26, 2018, 11:17:25 AM

and Sandin will be seeing game action tonight!

Siegel and Mirtle also mentioned in their latest podcast how Barb Underhill actually went to Montreal over the summer to work with Frederik Gauthier for a stretch, and I think it's showing so far. Imagine fast Gauthier + Leivo. Do we have a coach for puckhandling?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Dappleganger on October 26, 2018, 12:42:24 PM

and Sandin will be seeing game action tonight!


Is she suiting up for the Marlies?  :D
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 26, 2018, 01:06:45 PM
I want to bump this video in case some people haven't watched it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3N8HpG_XmU

Video breakdown of how Rasmus Sandin plays, the defensive decisions he makes, and how he drives play for his team.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 26, 2018, 01:07:29 PM
Is she suiting up for the Marlies?  :D

We are a bit low on centre depth...
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on October 26, 2018, 08:35:42 PM

Heyyyyyy

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 02, 2018, 10:49:50 AM
If anyone is looking for a summary on how every Marlies player has fared so far this season (including some hand-tracked advanced stats), check out this article from Jeff Veillette/Faceoff Circle:

http://faceoffcircle.ca/2018/11/02/the-marlies-heading-into-winter-fair-road-trip/

It's hosted on a subscription-based blog, but it'll be free-to-read until 7pm tonight.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 02, 2018, 11:08:14 AM
TREVOR MOORE
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 02, 2018, 11:12:20 AM
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 02, 2018, 11:20:08 AM
The article also reminded me that Liljegren is still eligible for the World Junior's this year. He and Sandin could potentially be a pairing there if the Leafs let them both go (I imagine they will).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 02, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Moore up right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- No yo-yo youth (of which Moore is, nominally). Similar to Johnsson last year and Kapanen before him, they probably want to see him dominate the level for a long stretch playing big minutes and building confidence; he's shooting nearly 25% right now, which can't possibly be a real number unless he's only ever going to be shooting from the slot off Royal Road passes or tips from the point.
- How much more of a boost overall does Moore have over Ennis in the 6-10 minutes of TOI per game? Ennis is not detrimental, just forgettable and the line is apparently designed to make sure nothing happens. I'd want Moore to be positioned to generate, but I don't think they'd slot him in over Marleau or Hyman just yet (if ever).
- Marlies are struggling a bit to win, and the front office values winning throughout the system, so I think it's an easy tradeoff here
- The coaching staff is babying a handful of freshly graduated prospects in Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Ozhiganov, Holl, Gauthier, and sort of Leivo. They've shown a willingness to bend over almost backwards to shelter the kids heavily and adding more bodies to shelter is not what they want to focus on. Kapanen's already been pushed higher than they want due to the injury and impasse but they clearly want him on the PK training program
- Ennis is a free-agent signing looking to rehab his reputation and I think the Leafs are amenable to giving him as much of a chance to do so as an asset to trade later or actually keep for the season if he plays up to the level he can (see Matt Martin).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on November 02, 2018, 01:19:18 PM
Great post Herminator
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 02, 2018, 11:18:10 PM
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Moore up right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- No yo-yo youth (of which Moore is, nominally). Similar to Johnsson last year and Kapanen before him, they probably want to see him dominate the level for a long stretch playing big minutes and building confidence; he's shooting nearly 25% right now, which can't possibly be a real number unless he's only ever going to be shooting from the slot off Royal Road passes or tips from the point.
- How much more of a boost overall does Moore have over Ennis in the 6-10 minutes of TOI per game? Ennis is not detrimental, just forgettable and the line is apparently designed to make sure nothing happens. I'd want Moore to be positioned to generate, but I don't think they'd slot him in over Marleau or Hyman just yet (if ever).
- Marlies are struggling a bit to win, and the front office values winning throughout the system, so I think it's an easy tradeoff here
- The coaching staff is babying a handful of freshly graduated prospects in Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Ozhiganov, Holl, Gauthier, and sort of Leivo. They've shown a willingness to bend over almost backwards to shelter the kids heavily and adding more bodies to shelter is not what they want to focus on. Kapanen's already been pushed higher than they want due to the injury and impasse but they clearly want him on the PK training program
- Ennis is a free-agent signing looking to rehab his reputation and I think the Leafs are amenable to giving him as much of a chance to do so as an asset to trade later or actually keep for the season if he plays up to the level he can (see Matt Martin).

lol
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Post by: herman on November 03, 2018, 07:51:29 AM
Awesome

Let's see if this works...

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Nylander signed right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- Gives the staff a chance to see what they have in the next wave of young players
- While the Leafs are currently in a bit of a slump (both for lack of trying and not), the Atlantic has enough garbage in it that the Leafs will make the playoffs and it's really just a matter of positioning; the only Atlantic team we play in November is Boston (twice)
- The more days Nylander is not signed, the lower his future cap hits become, which is when our actual cap crunch occurs, and it's only for that one season (2019-2020) which may or may not coincide with a CBA re-negotiation/lockout anyway and is also projected to see a bump in the cap to 81-84M.
- Not blinking here is Dubas giving a shot across the bow to Matthews' and Marner's respective agents, as well as other executives around the league who are cagily taking their measure of the new kid
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on November 03, 2018, 01:30:32 PM
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Moore up right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- No yo-yo youth (of which Moore is, nominally). Similar to Johnsson last year and Kapanen before him, they probably want to see him dominate the level for a long stretch playing big minutes and building confidence; he's shooting nearly 25% right now, which can't possibly be a real number unless he's only ever going to be shooting from the slot off Royal Road passes or tips from the point.
- How much more of a boost overall does Moore have over Ennis in the 6-10 minutes of TOI per game? Ennis is not detrimental, just forgettable and the line is apparently designed to make sure nothing happens. I'd want Moore to be positioned to generate, but I don't think they'd slot him in over Marleau or Hyman just yet (if ever).
- Marlies are struggling a bit to win, and the front office values winning throughout the system, so I think it's an easy tradeoff here
- The coaching staff is babying a handful of freshly graduated prospects in Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Ozhiganov, Holl, Gauthier, and sort of Leivo. They've shown a willingness to bend over almost backwards to shelter the kids heavily and adding more bodies to shelter is not what they want to focus on. Kapanen's already been pushed higher than they want due to the injury and impasse but they clearly want him on the PK training program
- Ennis is a free-agent signing looking to rehab his reputation and I think the Leafs are amenable to giving him as much of a chance to do so as an asset to trade later or actually keep for the season if he plays up to the level he can (see Matt Martin).
The Leafs paid no attention to Herminator and have brought MOORE up to the team...Dubas pay attention to Herman
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 03, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
The Leafs paid no attention to Herminator and have brought MOORE up to the team...Dubas pay attention to Herman

Haha I wanted Moore in the opening night lineup, but I didn’t want him riding the bench like a Leivo.

They might send him back down after the road trip (as it is brief) to keep building cap space.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 03, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
BTW


2 goals in 2 games played in Rasmus Sandin's AHL career thus far. It's going to be really fun when Liljegren and Sandin really get going.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 03, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
BTW


2 goals in 2 games played in Rasmus Sandin's AHL career thus far. It's going to be really fun when Liljegren and Sandin really get going.
April, Leafs playoffs, make it so!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 07, 2018, 10:19:02 AM
Trevor Moore is back with the Marlies after catching a few Leaf games from the pressbox. I'm pretty sure he's not complaining about the 1000% pay bump during that brief period of time.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 07, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Trevor Moore is back with the Marlies after catching a few Leaf games from the pressbox. I'm pretty sure he's not complaining about the 1000% pay bump during that brief period of time.

Pre-cursor to Nylander?  Like they move a body out to get ready for the Nylander announcement?  (yes, I'm hopeful)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 07, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
Trevor Moore is back with the Marlies after catching a few Leaf games from the pressbox. I'm pretty sure he's not complaining about the 1000% pay bump during that brief period of time.

Pre-cursor to Nylander?  Like they move a body out to get ready for the Nylander announcement?  (yes, I'm hopeful)

They're off today and tomorrow and play at home on Friday. Probably more of a cap-saving thing. He (or someone else the Leafs want to pay to sit in the press box) will probably get called back up on Friday or Saturday.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 07, 2018, 04:10:30 PM
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/11/07/leafs-musings-scouting-timothy-liljegren-rasmus-sandin-travis-dermotts-top-pairing-chances-jeremy-braccos-uphill-battle/

Some light reading on Sandin and Liljegren's progress thus far. They're both a bit raw -- Sandin is more polished defensively, Liljegren has more tools for offense -- and will need to develop longer in the AHL (they're not even 20 yet). What they both have shown are the style of play that the Leafs really want their defense to play like: cycle stopping, quick ups to forwards (Liljegren has one of the best stretch passes in the org.), joining the rush as the extra attacker.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on November 08, 2018, 12:43:10 PM
Leaf scouts are checking this guy out; Nils Höglande, going to play for the Swedes at the WJC.  Check out his nickname!!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 08, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
Leaf scouts are checking this guy out; Nils Höglande, going to play for the Swedes at the WJC.  Check out his nickname!!


He's apparently quite feisty.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on November 08, 2018, 03:40:40 PM
Leaf scouts are checking this guy out; Nils Höglande, going to play for the Swedes at the WJC.  Check out his nickname!!


He's apparently quite feisty.
Thats cause he's a Highlander!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on November 09, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
FRANKIE SCORED TONIGHT (a goal in a hockey game).

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Arn on November 15, 2018, 09:07:24 AM
Guys, I don't think the Marlies are gonna retain their Calder Cup
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 15, 2018, 09:23:56 AM
Guys, I don't think the Marlies are gonna retain their Calder Cup

They're getting the worst goaltending in the entire league (0.860 save percentage), but from all reports the rest of the team is playing very well. I imagine the Leafs are still waiting to see what happens with McBackup and Pickard, but if neither of them become available they'll make some sort of move to get a real goalie for the Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 17, 2018, 10:57:48 AM
Going to the Marlies game tonight guys!
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Post by: Highlander on November 17, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
Zee we expect a complete report, would like to know about Sandin and Lilypad. Also the Borg?
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Post by: Zee on November 17, 2018, 04:27:06 PM
Zee we expect a complete report, would like to know about Sandin and Lilypad. Also the Borg?
Eye test or stats heavy? If I have to chart this game it won't be as enjoyable
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 17, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Lilejegren isn't playing tonight noooooooooo
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Post by: Highlander on November 17, 2018, 07:05:19 PM
Well that sucks, an eye test is fine Zee....LOL. Keep a keen one on Borg and Rosen
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 18, 2018, 09:02:48 AM
Rosen looked pretty good, best defenseman out there for the Marlies. He had some nice breakouts and an end to end rush that almost resulted in a goal. Borgman was just there, didn't really stand out and was paired with Subban who wasn't impressive to me.

Of the forwards, I noticed Gagner the most and he's not even Leafs property.  Marlies piled up a ton of shots but allot were one and done, not really a net drive or tons of rebound chances.

I didn't even notice Brooks or Bracco get anything at all, was disappointed by those two.

Kaskisuo was good in net for what it's worth although I thought he could have had the 2nd Devil's goal

(3rd time trying to post this, wasn't going through with Tapatalk and had to open a browser on my phone, hope this works
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Post by: herman on November 18, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
Thanks Zee!

Good to hear Kaskisuo is back.
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Post by: Zee on November 18, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
Thanks Zee!

Good to hear Kaskisuo is back.
Next Marlies game I'm going to is Dec 1st (got a Marlies 4 pack of games on a deal)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 18, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
I didn't even notice Brooks or Bracco get anything at all, was disappointed by those two.

Just a bit of added context with Brooks: he was out for the first month or so with an undisclosed injury. Played 2 games early in the month and was out again with some sort of heart rate issue. So this was only his 3rd game of the season, and first since November 9th.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 18, 2018, 12:01:39 PM
From last night

(https://i.imgur.com/5a9tiv5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uzHpOqE.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 18, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
Great pics Zee! Did the arena fill up any more than that after warm-ups?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on November 18, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
Great pics Zee! Did the arena fill up any more than that after warm-ups?
Not full by any means but I would say 2/3rds full. There was an entire row beside us that was empty, and the Marlies have blocked off 2 sections behind one of the nets. Sort of sad considering they're the reigning champs and tickets are pretty affordable
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on December 09, 2018, 08:00:39 PM

Welp
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on December 10, 2018, 10:28:42 AM
Timothy Liljebust, am I right??
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on December 10, 2018, 11:13:35 AM
Thats about it, not sure he is going to make the bigs, Sandin however seems like a lock in the near future
Can't understand why Borgman is not taking the step forward, he likes to hit, has some offensive flair. I was hoping that he would pan out.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on December 10, 2018, 11:56:02 AM
Liljegren is 19 and Sandin is only 18 years old; both playing in a high-level professional league. I think it's a bit premature to say either looks like a lock or not.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on December 10, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
Liljegren is 19 and Sandin is only 18 years old; both playing in a high-level professional league. I think it's a bit premature to say either looks like a lock or not.

I know, I was just being funny with my bust comment and also I'm cautiously optimistic with my Sandin love.  So much can change for players from season to season, you never know who will make it or who won't.  I'm still high on both Swedes on the blueline, hopefully they can be a top 4 pairing on the Leafs for a long time.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on December 10, 2018, 01:24:12 PM
No worries, I was actually responding to Highlander's post.

You see, I'm steadfast in my commitment to not quote the post immediately preceding mine. STEADFAST.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on December 11, 2018, 10:11:57 AM
In:
Steve Oleksy
Future Considerations

Out:
Jeff Glass
Adam Cracknell

Separate deals, but essentially the same transaction.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on December 11, 2018, 11:12:05 AM
The Marlies are tied for 4th in goals for.  They are also 28th in goals against (and will probably drop to 31st when factoring in games played).  None of their goaltenders have a SV% >.900

When two of your goaltenders have SV% around .860 its hard to imagine that is all on the play in front of them. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on December 11, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
Kazi was injured and I think is better than represented. Eamon is looking like a fighter, perhaps the save percentage tightens up or Marincin comes back to anchor the D...
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Post by: herman on December 11, 2018, 02:01:35 PM
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We opened the scoring... in OT.
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Post by: Highlander on December 11, 2018, 02:44:26 PM
Eamon had the shutout, read two posts back.
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Post by: Highlander on December 14, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
Eamon had the shutout, read two posts back.
I guess I had premature Eamon elation... he sucked last night.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on December 22, 2018, 08:38:51 AM

The Marlies have lost all 4 Swedish defensemen for this next stretch (Sandin at WJC)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 22, 2018, 01:42:44 PM

Trevor Moore now tied for 2nd in goals in the AHL. It's a shame that we don't have any room for a left handed winger anywhere on the roster right now.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on December 22, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on December 22, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Maybe this season around trade deadline????
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on December 22, 2018, 05:36:47 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Maybe this season around trade deadline????

Depends if we make a roster trade adding to our backend.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on December 22, 2018, 10:19:50 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Maybe this season around trade deadline????

Depends if we make a roster trade adding to our backend.
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe with these injuries and the players that take their spots, some guys at become tradeable... Brown. Hyman.. Who knows?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on December 22, 2018, 10:22:25 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Maybe this season around trade deadline????

Depends if we make a roster trade adding to our backend.
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe with these injuries and the players that take their spots, some guys at become tradeable... Brown. Hyman.. Who knows?
So you're saying it could be a blessing in disguise? I'm liking the thought process
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on December 22, 2018, 10:28:26 PM
No away game for the Leafs until the 28th (Columbus); even with the call up, I can’t see Babcock putting any Marlies on the ice unless more injuries hit. Moore will make the team next season.
Maybe this season around trade deadline????

Depends if we make a roster trade adding to our backend.
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe with these injuries and the players that take their spots, some guys at become tradeable... Brown. Hyman.. Who knows?
So you're saying it could be a blessing in disguise? I'm liking the thought process
I think it could be. It may also make that lightbulb go off in Babs' head that the Johnsson kid or whoever is actually a better fit for with the JT/Matthews line then Hyman.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on December 24, 2018, 11:20:37 AM
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Post by: herman on December 28, 2018, 06:58:02 PM
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WJC + Moore's call up + illness/injuries/suspension is making Marlies lineup building a fun exercise. That's Jordan Subban suiting up as a RW.

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Not sure why Dicky Clune is not a go.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 08, 2019, 12:53:49 PM
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Post by: Highlander on January 08, 2019, 12:59:21 PM
To bad about Sandin although good to hear Lilypad will be back soon.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 08, 2019, 01:03:47 PM
Went to the game this past Sunday and the guy who stood out for me was Subban. The kid can fly. Don't know what his future with the team is but I liked his game.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 08, 2019, 01:31:18 PM
Just send Holl back to the Marlies. Babs obviously doesn't intend to ever play him, and there's pretty much zero chance he gets claimed on waivers on the way down.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 08, 2019, 01:37:51 PM
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-prospects/2019/1/8/18172267/decisions-loom-again-for-rasmus-sandin-and-the-toronto-maple-leafs-soo-greyhounds-rogle

Sandin's status is up in the air as well as he can return to the Marlies, or Rogle, or the Soo. The 4-6 wk elbow sprain doesn't really help that decision along.
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Post by: herman on January 10, 2019, 04:25:28 PM

I know these (in general) are just iso clips, but Michael Carcone has been more than an afterthought trade piece (Leivo deal).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on January 10, 2019, 05:42:27 PM

I know these (in general) are just iso clips, but Michael Carcone has been more than an afterthought trade piece (Leivo deal).
Yeah the guys on the Leafs on Deck podcast have been talking him up lately.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 10, 2019, 07:57:13 PM
Just send Holl back to the Marlies. Babs obviously doesn't intend to ever play him, and there's pretty much zero chance he gets claimed on waivers on the way down.
If there was zero percent he'd be down already and the Leafs would be saving cap money.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 11, 2019, 09:22:34 AM

I know these (in general) are just iso clips, but Michael Carcone has been more than an afterthought trade piece (Leivo deal).
Yeah the guys on the Leafs on Deck podcast have been talking him up lately.

https://mapleleafsnation.com/2019/01/10/could-michael-carcone-be-next-leaf-prospect-to-defy-odds/

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“I don’t want to be rude,” Carcone prefaced. “But there’s a lot more top-end prospects in Toronto.”

[...]

“I feel like he’s still in that adjustment period,” Keefe said. “It’s going to take him some time. [...] I  think there’s more to his game offensively that can be developed,” Keefe said.. “In particular with how he can convert offensive situations into play driving situations. Mainly just, holding on to the puck [and] possessing the puck.”
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on January 11, 2019, 09:46:21 AM

I know these (in general) are just iso clips, but Michael Carcone has been more than an afterthought trade piece (Leivo deal).
Yeah the guys on the Leafs on Deck podcast have been talking him up lately.

https://mapleleafsnation.com/2019/01/10/could-michael-carcone-be-next-leaf-prospect-to-defy-odds/

Quote
“I don’t want to be rude,” Carcone prefaced. “But there’s a lot more top-end prospects in Toronto.”

[...]

“I feel like he’s still in that adjustment period,” Keefe said. “It’s going to take him some time. [...] I  think there’s more to his game offensively that can be developed,” Keefe said.. “In particular with how he can convert offensive situations into play driving situations. Mainly just, holding on to the puck [and] possessing the puck.”

It's a good situation they have on the Marlies.  With a lot of top-end prospects as Carcone puts it, there is always internal competition on the team to be THE GUY performing.  Being able to run 4 lines where guys are always trying to be better than the next guy is good for overall development of the prospects.  Once Hutch gets down there to solidify the goaltending I think the Marlies will have a good stretch run going into the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: digdug on January 11, 2019, 10:19:50 AM

Not sure why Dicky Clune is not a go.


Clune is an overager for the AHL. 

from AHL FAQ
  In the AHL, player development is a top priority. The American Hockey League and the
  Professional Hockey Players’ Association have the following development rule in place:

  Of the 18 skaters (not counting two goaltenders) that teams may dress for a game, at
  least 13 must be qualified as “development players.” Of those 13, 12 must have played in
  260 or fewer professional games (including AHL, NHL and European elite leagues), and
  one must have played in 320 or fewer professional games. All calculations for
  development status are based on regular-season totals as of the start of the season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 11, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
If there was zero percent he'd be down already and the Leafs would be saving cap money.

I like the guy, but nobody's claiming an almost 27-year old defenceman with 4 NHL games under his belt.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 11, 2019, 12:28:57 PM

Klimchuk came over from Calgary's farm team for Andrew Nielsen back in November. He incurred a 3 game suspension for a headshot that also incited a line brawl.

On the face of this trade, we got the younger, (much) bigger, lower scoring (in 2018/19) winger with a right shot instead of left.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 11, 2019, 01:08:32 PM
If there was zero percent he'd be down already and the Leafs would be saving cap money.

I like the guy, but nobody's claiming an almost 27-year old defenceman with 4 NHL games under his belt.
Well then please explain why he isn't on the Mrlies because it baffles me.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 11, 2019, 09:24:26 PM
Guess whose shooting videos Leafs/Marlies' skills consultant Darryl Belfry has been building off of.


(that's a goal, btw)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2019, 09:58:25 AM
nice.......................... :)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2019, 10:47:43 AM
Now I would like to see Matthews do his best Matthews impression.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on January 17, 2019, 08:58:16 AM
Good news everybody! Timoth Liljegren was loaned to the ECHL NFLD Growlers for a conditioning stint as he's coming off his ankle sprain, playing first pairing, and helping the Growlers land a shutout.

Sad news everybody. Liljegren left the game early in the third limping to the bench and did not return.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 17, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
Good news everybody! Timoth Liljegren was loaned to the ECHL NFLD Growlers for a conditioning stint as he's coming off his ankle sprain, playing first pairing, and helping the Growlers land a shutout.

Sad news everybody. Liljegren left the game early in the third limping to the bench and did not return.
Looks like Lilypad is not getting to use his game as a launching pad.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 17, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
Let's hope it's just a tweak and nothing more.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 20, 2019, 11:29:16 AM
I am a Jake fan, but as noted before, think for the playoffs he makes tons of knucklehead defensive mistakes.  We can trade him for a ton I would think, hate to see him go but he will probably be offered more than the Leafs can afford to pay him. Especially if they want to keep both Johnsson and Kapi (and I really want both of these lads to stick around)..
Keefe can't say enough about Rosen and he scored a beauty yesterday and had a primary assist as well.

"Calle Rosen scored unassisted at 17:24 of the second period and earlier registered the primary assist on Bracco’s first period power play goal. Rosen’s 23 assists put him fourth overall amongst defencemen in the AHL."

I think he comes in a bargain basement price tag.  By Jake, its been nice knowing you!

Aside Hutch was in net and isn't our backup option at all.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 20, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
I am a Jake fan, but as noted before, think for the playoffs he makes tons of knucklehead defensive mistakes.  We can trade him for a ton I would think, hate to see him go but he will probably be offered more than the Leafs can afford to pay him. Especially if they want to keep both Johnsson and Kapi (and I really want both of these lads to stick around)..
Keefe can't say enough about Rosen and he scored a beauty yesterday and had a primary assist as well.

"Calle Rosen scored unassisted at 17:24 of the second period and earlier registered the primary assist on Bracco’s first period power play goal. Rosen’s 23 assists put him fourth overall amongst defencemen in the AHL."

I think he comes in a bargain basement price tag.  By Jake, its been nice knowing you!

Aside Hutch was in net and isn't our backup option at all.
There were some rumblings about Rosen lately. He also played very well last year and during the cup run. Don't know if he's ready to make the jump but time will tell. I'd like to think if the Leafs get a good offer for Jake they'll trade him like they should have done with JVR, Bozak and Leo last year. We'll know in a month's time I guess.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on January 20, 2019, 01:15:59 PM
I am a Jake fan, but as noted before, think for the playoffs he makes tons of knucklehead defensive mistakes.  We can trade him for a ton I would think, hate to see him go but he will probably be offered more than the Leafs can afford to pay him. Especially if they want to keep both Johnsson and Kapi (and I really want both of these lads to stick around)..
Keefe can't say enough about Rosen and he scored a beauty yesterday and had a primary assist as well.

"Calle Rosen scored unassisted at 17:24 of the second period and earlier registered the primary assist on Bracco’s first period power play goal. Rosen’s 23 assists put him fourth overall amongst defencemen in the AHL."

I think he comes in a bargain basement price tag.  By Jake, its been nice knowing you!

Aside Hutch was in net and isn't our backup option at all.
There were some rumblings about Rosen lately. He also played very well last year and during the cup run. Don't know if he's ready to make the jump but time will tell. I'd like to think if the Leafs get a good offer for Jake they'll trade him like they should have done with JVR, Bozak and Leo last year. We'll know in a month's time I guess.
Yeah by all accounts Rosen is NHL ready and should be fine as 3rd pair left D if Dermott can take Gardiner's spot at 2D
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 20, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
I am a Jake fan, but as noted before, think for the playoffs he makes tons of knucklehead defensive mistakes.  We can trade him for a ton I would think, hate to see him go but he will probably be offered more than the Leafs can afford to pay him. Especially if they want to keep both Johnsson and Kapi (and I really want both of these lads to stick around)..
Keefe can't say enough about Rosen and he scored a beauty yesterday and had a primary assist as well.

"Calle Rosen scored unassisted at 17:24 of the second period and earlier registered the primary assist on Bracco’s first period power play goal. Rosen’s 23 assists put him fourth overall amongst defencemen in the AHL."

I think he comes in a bargain basement price tag.  By Jake, its been nice knowing you!

Aside Hutch was in net and isn't our backup option at all.
There were some rumblings about Rosen lately. He also played very well last year and during the cup run. Don't know if he's ready to make the jump but time will tell. I'd like to think if the Leafs get a good offer for Jake they'll trade him like they should have done with JVR, Bozak and Leo last year. We'll know in a month's time I guess.
Yeah by all accounts Rosen is NHL ready and should be fine as 3rd pair left D if Dermott can take Gardiner's spot at 2D
Judging by Dermott's game against Tampa, it doesn't appear to be the case. Hopefully by year end he can.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 27, 2019, 03:21:05 PM
About a month ago the Marlies signed former goon/all-around P.O.S. Tom Sestito to a PTO. It was a move that raised some eyebrows at the time given his history. Anyway he finally played his first game the other day, and, uh, yeah...

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 28, 2019, 10:58:42 AM
About a month ago the Marlies signed former goon/all-around P.O.S. Tom Sestito to a PTO. It was a move that raised some eyebrows at the time given his history. Anyway he finally played his first game the other day, and, uh, yeah...

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How soon can he start for the Leafs? ;)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on January 28, 2019, 12:15:31 PM
About a month ago the Marlies signed former goon/all-around P.O.S. Tom Sestito to a PTO. It was a move that raised some eyebrows at the time given his history. Anyway he finally played his first game the other day, and, uh, yeah...

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How soon can he start for the Leafs? ;)

There's this guy that's been boarding guys
All the time, Se-Se-stito  oh oh
Now he don't even know my name
But I think he'll board me just the same
Se-Se-stito oh oh!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 28, 2019, 03:54:31 PM
Funny Zee, as Burkie said, this guy seems to have the right blend of Truculence, Testosterone and (I forgot the other thing he said).. Seems to know how to take a guy out of play (forever), could  come in handy with Marchand in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on January 28, 2019, 04:18:04 PM
Funny Zee, as Burkie said, this guy seems to have the right blend of Truculence, Testosterone and (I forgot the other thing he said).. Seems to know how to take a guy out of play (forever), could  come in handy with Marchand in the playoffs.

I don't like Marchand, but I would never support intentionally injuring a guy to win a game or series.  Shades of Bobby Clarke breaking Kharlamov's ankle on purpose in 72.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on January 28, 2019, 05:49:44 PM
Funny Zee, as Burkie said, this guy seems to have the right blend of Truculence, Testosterone and (I forgot the other thing he said).. Seems to know how to take a guy out of play (forever), could  come in handy with Marchand in the playoffs.

I don't like Marchand, but I would never support intentionally injuring a guy to win a game or series.  Shades of Bobby Clarke breaking Kharlamov's ankle on purpose in 72.
Agree. Still wouldn't mind seeing someone punch him out tho. It really is such a shame he's such an assclown because he is a very good player.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on January 28, 2019, 08:26:21 PM
Funny Zee, as Burkie said, this guy seems to have the right blend of Truculence, Testosterone and (I forgot the other thing he said).. Seems to know how to take a guy out of play (forever), could  come in handy with Marchand in the playoffs.

I don't like Marchand, but I would never support intentionally injuring a guy to win a game or series.  Shades of Bobby Clarke breaking Kharlamov's ankle on purpose in 72.
As you know I say almost everything in jest, I don't and never have advocated hurting someone on purpose although there are a few politicians I can think of.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 02, 2019, 12:07:40 PM
Just watched the interview with Keefe after the 1-0 OT win.  Raved about Rosen said he was "playing at a different level", don't get me wrong but if Jake is going to walk for nothing better to get our first round pick and good prospect back.  Rosen can do an adequate job, perhaps better Defensively than Jake.

Keefe also praised Borgman, saying he has really improved since coming back from his injury.  Mason Marchment out 2-3 months with broken Collarbone.  :'(
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on February 02, 2019, 05:07:38 PM
Just watched the interview with Keefe after the 1-0 OT win.  Raved about Rosen said he was "playing at a different level", don't get me wrong but if Jake is going to walk for nothing better to get our first round pick and good prospect back.  Rosen can do an adequate job, perhaps better Defensively than Jake.

Keefe also praised Borgman, saying he has really improved since coming back from his injury.  Mason Marchment out 2-3 months with broken Collarbone.  :'(
Rosen stood out last night, I was watching him on every shift cause I know he's most likely on the Leafs next season. He's poised and always makes the right play. He's the definition of an over-ripe AHL player that should already be playing in the NHL
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 02, 2019, 07:07:20 PM
Hey Zee, forgot you were at the game, good report from you as well. I seem to remember when these guys came over that Rosen was the favoured prospect but Borgman took the wheel.  I hope both of them can eventually play for us.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on February 02, 2019, 07:12:37 PM
Hey Zee, forgot you were at the game, good report from you as well. I seem to remember when these guys came over that Rosen was the favoured prospect but Borgman took the wheel.  I hope both of them can eventually play for us.
Borgman wasn't impressive. Not sure what's up with him, I mean he was fine but didn't really stand out with creating anything.

Was disappointing that both Liljegren and Sandin are still out, was hoping to see them play.

Engvall, Bracco and Moore were noticeable as forwards. Mueller had a few good looks too.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 19, 2019, 10:45:27 AM
Borgman injured again, not sure he will connect in T.O. I can see him moving on as part of a package (even though I like him, good hitter)

However Rosen had 3 assists yesterday and leads the AHL in Defensive scoring..I am sounding like a broken record here but I don't see him being any worse than Bad Jake TM and we are going to lose Jake for nothing just like JVR and Bozi.

Lillypad and Sandin played together and looked very impressive. Especially Lillypad has really picked it up.  Sandin looks like he will stay in the AHL next season, perhaps Lilypad  makes the move up in place of Hainsey or Zaitsev if we can move him.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
Engvall now moved to Centre and is looking very good there, perhaps we have a future solution for 4th line C.  Guy can skate and shoot, picked up game winner in first game with a laser and two assists yesterday.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on February 21, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Borgman injured again, not sure he will connect in T.O. I can see him moving on as part of a package (even though I like him, good hitter)

However Rosen had 3 assists yesterday and leads the AHL in Defensive scoring..I am sounding like a broken record here but I don't see him being any worse than Bad Jake TM and we are going to lose Jake for nothing just like JVR and Bozi.

Lillypad and Sandin played together and looked very impressive. Especially Lillypad has really picked it up.  Sandin looks like he will stay in the AHL next season, perhaps Lilypad  makes the move up in place of Hainsey or Zaitsev if we can move him.
Seems like decent D pipeline the Leafs have laid. Good on the Shannaplan. I don't think the team takes a step backward with the loss of Gardiner.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
What remains to be seen is if we make Jake our rental or not. If not hopefully we can glean something that at least we can live with. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 21, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
What remains to be seen is if we make Jake our rental or not. If not hopefully we can glean something that at least we can live with. 
The only way I see Jake going is if it involves a D man coming back. Doesn't mean he has to get traded directly as the assets in return for Jake can be turned into that D man. We may be shocked at what Dubas does by Monday. Maybe he goes off the board and trades a roster player we haven't discussed.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2019, 07:17:24 PM
As long as it is Marleau or Zaitzev or both
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on February 21, 2019, 08:52:53 PM
As long as it is Marleau or Zaitzev or both


Marleau would have to agree to be moved and he wouldn't.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on February 21, 2019, 08:54:37 PM
As long as it is Marleau or Zaitzev or both
While Zaitsev has looked better of late, Marleau just doesn't fit on the Matthews line. He looks lost out there and is doing nothing offensively.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on February 24, 2019, 02:52:49 AM
Goaltender Michael Hutchinson’s numbers (and one of the reasons behind the Marlies sound netminding: 7-2-1 w/l record, .896 SV%, 2.95 GAA.

The other is Kaskisuo (improved since having the veteran Hutchinson on board) - - 5-2-1 w/l record, .897 SV%.

GO MARLIES!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2019, 12:26:49 PM
Engvall seeming to catch fire in new Centre role, Keefe's comments:

On Pierre Engvall on developing in his new role as centre:
I think in all areas as a centre, he’s really come to life. He was outstanding today. He really drove the game any time he was out there. One of the biggest concerns coming into this week with him as centre had been faceoffs but he’s worked at it, he’s getting stronger and stronger and I thought we had some good matchups for him in this game for faceoffs and it helped. He started with the puck and his line didn’t give it back too much.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 05, 2019, 05:17:52 PM
My big question is about Korshkov who is 22, 6'4".  He was our 2nd round draft pick, why isn't he over here, playing big minutes on the Marlies and seeing what we really have. Wouldn't it be better to have him under our development team with Coach Keefe?  And why not Räsänen as well, better to have him in our system, especially when Rosen and perhaps one of the other graduates with the losses of Hainsey and Gardiner.

Our even Lindgren who recently is starting to look like a legitimate prospect?  I think leaving some of these guys in Europe/Russia is a mistake, obviously the Leaf organization is top notch from the big team to the Growlers. Let's get these guys into our N.A system and develop them.

Also Kara seems to have some upside but is under contract till 20/21.  Just wondering why we don't have the ones with upside over there,  over here?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 05, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
My big question is about Korshkov who is 22, 6'4".  He was our 2nd round draft pick, why isn't he over here, playing big minutes on the Marlies and seeing what we really have. Wouldn't it be better to have him under our development team with Coach Keefe?  And why not Räsänen as well, better to have him in our system, especially when Rosen and perhaps one of the other graduates with the losses of Hainsey and Gardiner.

Our even Lindgren who recently is starting to look like a legitimate prospect?  I think leaving some of these guys in Europe/Russia is a mistake, obviously the Leaf organization is top notch from the big team to the Growlers. Let's get these guys into our N.A system and develop them.

Also Kara seems to have some upside but is under contract till 20/21.  Just wondering why we don't have the ones with upside over there,  over here?

Korshkov chose to sign a KHL deal. He's on the final year and in the midst of a playoff run (that is probably over in the next couple of days).

The Marlies have no cap or roster constraints, but there are still only so many players per game, and only so many games to play, and only so many roles to divvy out. It's okay if some of them think they have a better shot developing against professionals closer to home during the regular season. They don't actually get to play for the Marlies unless we ELC them, and those are not being handed out so readily these days. We'll get a better look at a handful when their seasons/playoffs are over, especially if they are an upgrade over certain Marlies/Growlers.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 06, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
So there is a chance that Korshkov and Lindgren have a chance to join the Marlies if they crash out of the playoffs across the pond.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 06, 2019, 10:41:34 AM
So there is a chance that Korshkov and Lindgren have a chance to join the Marlies if they crash out of the playoffs across the pond.

Yep. Lindgren came over last year but couldn't land much ice time so he went home early to train.

I'm pretty sure Korshkov is coming over for next season if not the playoffs this season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 06, 2019, 03:54:30 PM
From what I have been reading about Lindgren, sounds like he has seen some real improvement lately, playing 20 minutes a game etc. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on March 06, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
So there is a chance that Korshkov and Lindgren have a chance to join the Marlies if they crash out of the playoffs across the pond.

Yep. Lindgren came over last year but couldn't land much ice time so he went home early to train.

I'm pretty sure Korshkov is coming over for next season if not the playoffs this season.

It'll be good to confirm that Korshkov is actually a real person after nobody knew who he was when Hunter drafted him off the board 3 years ago.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 10, 2019, 03:21:25 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 10, 2019, 03:22:05 PM
Nah, still not convinced he's a real person.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on March 10, 2019, 06:31:38 PM
Nah, still not convinced he's a real person.


I agree with this post
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 10, 2019, 07:09:31 PM

Kuuuuuucchhhhh
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 10, 2019, 07:25:14 PM
Timashov's going to be a rare case of a player who will require waivers next season despite (probably) not having any NHL games played and while still being on his ELC.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 11, 2019, 10:00:04 AM
TIL
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on March 11, 2019, 04:32:50 PM
Eemeil Rasanen coming to the Marlies for the rest of year.  Bought himself out of his contract with Jokerit. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 11, 2019, 04:37:39 PM
Eemeil Rasanen coming to the Marlies for the rest of year.  Bought himself out of his contract with Jokerit. 

Leaving the OHL was such a big misstep for him.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on March 11, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
Eemeil Rasanen coming to the Marlies for the rest of year.  Bought himself out of his contract with Jokerit. 

Leaving the OHL was such a big misstep for him.

It was, but I guess he was pretty messed up being away from home.  Kingston flew his family out at one point because he was so homesick.  I can understand wanting to go back the European way from that perspective.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 11, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
Eemeil Rasanen coming to the Marlies for the rest of year.  Bought himself out of his contract with Jokerit. 

Leaving the OHL was such a big misstep for him.
Probably but coming to the Marlies and the Leafs development team will help a lot. Hope it works out for the kid.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 11, 2019, 05:38:03 PM
Ontario bus rides vs professional paycheque closer to home

I probably would’ve chosen the same thing he did.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 12, 2019, 12:48:20 PM
Shows a very smart move by Rasanen to make, his development curve will be a lot steeper with the Marlies and make him potentially NHL ready much faster.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 12, 2019, 01:04:40 PM
Ontario bus rides vs professional paycheque closer to home

I probably would’ve chosen the same thing he did.

Actually playing hockey vs not playing hockey.

Anyway, I have no problem with him wanting to give professional hockey a chance. And if LK is correct and he was homesick then that makes even more sense. But thinking he could play regular minutes as a defenceman in the KHL at the age of 19 was obviously a reach. He should have tried to find a team in the SM-liiga.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 12, 2019, 01:42:48 PM
Ontario bus rides vs professional paycheque closer to home

I probably would’ve chosen the same thing he did.

Actually playing hockey vs not playing hockey.

Anyway, I have no problem with him wanting to give professional hockey a chance. And if LK is correct and he was homesick then that makes even more sense. But thinking he could play regular minutes as a defenceman in the KHL at the age of 19 was obviously a reach. He should have tried to find a team in the SM-liiga.

I think he had an interest in working with the Jokerit coach (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-prospect-eemeli-rasanen-off-khl/) which probably promised better development in theory.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 15, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-timothy-liljegren-wants-crack-lineup-soon-possible/

Would running a right side of green but skilled puck moving defensemen be any worse than running a right side of slow but safe tougher defensemen? Either option is going to get walked once in awhile, but at least the former can also generate offense, non?

Rielly - Dermott
Muzzin - Holl
Rosen - Liljegren
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 15, 2019, 02:01:48 PM
Rasanen to the Marlies officially.

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 15, 2019, 02:36:54 PM
Rasanen to the Marlies officially.

Excited to see this development as the Marlies go into the final part of their season.  And Duzak as well, boy do we need to see some light with our D.    I guess it stacks up like this right now:  Sandin or Lillypad (one or two), Hollowel, Duzak, and hopefully Rasanen will show some talent. Guess he will be working a lot with Barb Underhill as skating seems to be his weakness, but he shows a willingness for physical play and what a wingspan!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 18, 2019, 09:25:57 AM

With 11 pts in his last 7 games, Sandin has tied the AHL record for an 18 year old defenseman in points with 23.

Points aren't everything in terms of what a defender's job is on the ice, but it is very promising given that Sandin has been pressed into #1LD duties with the injuries to Rosen/Borgman and the call-up of Marincin. Also note that most 18 year olds are usually not eligible for the AHL, and a memorable minority are too good to not be in the NHL, so this is a small pool of candidates to gauge against.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 18, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/03/18/toronto-leafs-musings-bracco-is-nhl-ready-sandins-in-brannstrom-territory-liljegrens-strong-stretch-and-playing-a-heavier-style/

Some more eyeball reports on Sandin and other Marlie standouts: Bracco & Liljegren.

There's still a lot to be excited about as the Leafs continue to shed veterans by attrition, and grow the young core into leadership roles.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 18, 2019, 10:01:23 AM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 18, 2019, 10:13:35 AM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.

Do you think his value is really that high?  I don't think organizations see guys who haven't proven it in the NHL as having much value, unless you are a 18/19/20 yr old with "star in the making" attached to you (ie Brannstrom).  Bracco is 22.  He has "tweener" written all over him (ie, he'll be too good for the AHL ala Seth Griffith, but may not be good enough for the NHL).  I don't think other organizations see him as much more than that, until he proves he can stick in the NHL.  I'm not sure you'd be selling high on him.

I want to see what happens this offseason in terms of cap-space etc.  Bracco might be able to fit on the 3rd line RW if Kappy/Johnsson/Brown etc have to be cap casualties. 

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 18, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
Do you think his value is really that high?  I don't think organizations see guys who haven't proven it in the NHL as having much value, unless you are a 18/19/20 yr old with "star in the making" attached to you (ie Brannstrom).  Bracco is 22.  He has "tweener" written all over him (ie, he'll be too good for the AHL ala Seth Griffith, but may not be good enough for the NHL).  I don't think other organizations see him as much more than that, until he proves he can stick in the NHL.  I'm not sure you'd be selling high on him.

I want to see what happens this offseason in terms of cap-space etc.  Bracco might be able to fit on the 3rd line RW if Kappy/Johnsson/Brown etc have to be cap casualties.

Former 2nd round draft pick who is currently tied for 2nd in AHL scoring in his 21-year old season (just turned 22 yesterday). He could even take over the scoring lead very soon considering the tear he's one (granted, the current leader has 12 less games). That's pretty impressive. If the team offloads both Kapanen and Brown then sure I'd keep him, but if he's going to be behind Marner/Nylander/Kapanen long-term then his value to the team might be more as a trade chip to improve our D (or to convince someone to take Zaitsev).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 18, 2019, 11:02:46 AM
Would love to see the Leafs work this set up more often
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 18, 2019, 11:39:30 AM
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/03/18/toronto-leafs-musings-bracco-is-nhl-ready-sandins-in-brannstrom-territory-liljegrens-strong-stretch-and-playing-a-heavier-style/

Some more eyeball reports on Sandin and other Marlie standouts: Bracco & Liljegren.

There's still a lot to be excited about as the Leafs continue to shed veterans by attrition, and grow the young core into leadership roles.
I like Papetti's writing, has the ability to really explain where the players are at.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 18, 2019, 11:45:34 AM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 18, 2019, 11:58:53 AM
Do you think his value is really that high?  I don't think organizations see guys who haven't proven it in the NHL as having much value, unless you are a 18/19/20 yr old with "star in the making" attached to you (ie Brannstrom).  Bracco is 22.  He has "tweener" written all over him (ie, he'll be too good for the AHL ala Seth Griffith, but may not be good enough for the NHL).  I don't think other organizations see him as much more than that, until he proves he can stick in the NHL.  I'm not sure you'd be selling high on him.

I want to see what happens this offseason in terms of cap-space etc.  Bracco might be able to fit on the 3rd line RW if Kappy/Johnsson/Brown etc have to be cap casualties.

Former 2nd round draft pick who is currently tied for 2nd in AHL scoring in his 21-year old season (just turned 22 yesterday). He could even take over the scoring lead very soon considering the tear he's one (granted, the current leader has 12 less games). That's pretty impressive. If the team offloads both Kapanen and Brown then sure I'd keep him, but if he's going to be behind Marner/Nylander/Kapanen long-term then his value to the team might be more as a trade chip to improve our D (or to convince someone to take Zaitsev).

I agree that if we manage to keep all three of MNK then his value is more as a trade chip, even if his value is not significant enough to bring back what we need (Top 4 D).  But, from an asset allocation perspective, Kapanen has a higher trade value and will cost more against the cap next season.  If we can get return on him that helps out the D (directly or indirectly) and plug Bracco into his 3rd line RW spot I think we are doing well.  (or, if you prefer Kappy or Mango, try Kappy on the LW and move on from Mango)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 18, 2019, 12:35:47 PM
I can't find any info when Duzak and Rasanen may be given some ice time? 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on March 18, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!

He's not even 35% of Mitch. They're not letting Mitch go nor is he getting an offer sheet of $12M.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 18, 2019, 02:53:31 PM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!

He's not even 35% of Mitch. They're not letting Mitch go nor is he getting an offer sheet of $12M.
I see guys like Kappy or Johnsson getting them first and if the Leafs feel they're too high, then guys like Bracco or whoever can fill the role when/if they let them walk.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on March 18, 2019, 03:06:39 PM
I see guys like Kappy or Johnsson getting them first and if the Leafs feel they're too high, then guys like Bracco or whoever can fill the role when/if they let them walk.

That is much more likely, yeah. The teams that have the cap space to give big money to guys like Marner can't risk/afford to give up the picks, while the teams that can take the risk on the picks don't really have the cap space. That's not true about guys like Kapanen and Johnsson - the cap hit and the compensation picks will both be much more easy for teams to absorb. Getting them signed to reasonable contracts might actually need to be the priority this off-season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on March 18, 2019, 03:54:59 PM
And even then, I'd bet it's more likely the teams interested in either Johnsson or Kapanen would work out a trade with Dubas.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on March 18, 2019, 09:15:15 PM
And even then, I'd bet it's more likely the teams interested in either Johnsson or Kapanen would work out a trade with Dubas.

That’s also probably true. Might cost them more in assets up front, but almost certainly much less on the cap than an offer sheet they don’t think the Leafs would match.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 19, 2019, 11:27:24 AM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!

He's not even 35% of Mitch. They're not letting Mitch go nor is he getting an offer sheet of $12M.
I hope not, I hope Mitch is a Leaf for life, like Tavares he bleeds blue and white and will take a home team discount.  Making 9 million a year or even 10 million, not much difference in final lifestyle choices.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on March 19, 2019, 11:40:19 AM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!

He's not even 35% of Mitch. They're not letting Mitch go nor is he getting an offer sheet of $12M.
I hope not, I hope Mitch is a Leaf for life, like Tavares he bleeds blue and white and will take a home team discount.  Making 9 million a year or even 10 million, not much difference in final lifestyle choices.


Paul Marner wants the same contract as Matthews
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 19, 2019, 12:40:42 PM
Wonder if it might be a good idea to try and sell high on Bracco.
I have read the conflicting opinions about Bracco, Papetti is very high on him.  So let's pretend this scenario; Marner receives an offer sheet of 12 million, out of the Leafs budget.  You get what 4 first round picks for that kind of dosh.  Not saying Bracco is Mitch Marner but if he is even 80% of Mitch, then you have an option where it doesn't kill you to lose Mitch. Plus those 4 first round picks!

He's not even 35% of Mitch. They're not letting Mitch go nor is he getting an offer sheet of $12M.
I hope not, I hope Mitch is a Leaf for life, like Tavares he bleeds blue and white and will take a home team discount.  Making 9 million a year or even 10 million, not much difference in final lifestyle choices.


Paul Marner wants the same contract as Matthews
Then there will be a stand off. Don't see the Leafs paying him the same.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 20, 2019, 06:59:43 PM
I can't find any info when Duzak and Rasanen may be given some ice time?

Duszak hits the ice tonight, #21
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 20, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
I can't find any info when Duzak and Rasanen may be given some ice time?

Duszak hits the ice tonight, #21
thanks Herman, hoping he is a hit. Interesting to see where Rasanen will tap in.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 20, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
I can't find any info when Duzak and Rasanen may be given some ice time?

Duszak hits the ice tonight, #21
Great. Hope he becomes a keeper!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on March 20, 2019, 10:11:40 PM
Bracco and Sandin with more points!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 21, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 21, 2019, 04:25:46 PM

Incoming Marlie
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: disco on March 21, 2019, 06:28:58 PM
This is very, very encouraging news.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 21, 2019, 07:44:06 PM

Incoming Marlie
Starting to get excited to see some of these young uns have a chance with the Marlies. Heard Duzak had 4 shots on net last night. Need some new blood on our D.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 21, 2019, 07:50:03 PM
This is very, very encouraging news.
Ya some light at the end of the tunnel. Also Hollowell may be sooner than later, at least one season with the Marlies and as an overager then up with the big team. If Rasanen or Gordeev work out then we have a Chara sized guy on our D. 

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on March 22, 2019, 09:10:43 AM
This is very, very encouraging news.
Ya some light at the end of the tunnel. Also Hollowell may be sooner than later, at least one season with the Marlies and as an overager then up with the big team. If Rasanen or Gordeev work out then we have a Chara sized guy on our D.
Hal Gill
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 22, 2019, 11:44:10 AM
This is very, very encouraging news.
Ya some light at the end of the tunnel. Also Hollowell may be sooner than later, at least one season with the Marlies and as an overager then up with the big team. If Rasanen or Gordeev work out then we have a Chara sized guy on our D.
Hal Gill
The Great Hal Gill, along with the Awsome Aki Berg!!! ;)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 22, 2019, 02:10:34 PM

Centre depth, NCAA free agent
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/199895/colt-conrad

A brief scouting report:
https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2017/6/19/15832436/colt-conrad-2017-nhl-draft-profile
via PPP (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2019/3/22/18277600/toronto-marlies-sign-colton-conrad-toronto-marlies-roster-western-michigan-university-broncos-colt)

He is basically the centre version of Jeremy Bracco, at least from the physical specs.
Just like Joe Duszak is the defense version of Jeremy Bracco.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 22, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
Everything is coming up Bracco!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 22, 2019, 09:24:15 PM
Oh no the Leafs just signed another guy name Colton to the team. This is not a good omen. Colton is out!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 24, 2019, 11:50:31 AM
Sunday the 24th. On PPP they have a clip of Sandin obliterating a guy as he is about to cross the blue line, great hit.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 24, 2019, 01:31:07 PM
Sunday the 24th. On PPP they have a clip of Sandin obliterating a guy as he is about to cross the blue line, great hit.
Link?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on March 24, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
Sunday the 24th. On PPP they have a clip of Sandin obliterating a guy as he is about to cross the blue line, great hit.
Link?

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on March 24, 2019, 02:51:30 PM
Thanks..
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 30, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
We are not getting enough Marlies news, heck this is our pipeline and there has been a lot of signings. Even the Marlies site is kind of Spartan.  Why isn't Rasanen getting some game action. Heck they were play Frankie Corrado last night. Why?  He won't be with the big team again.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on March 31, 2019, 03:46:40 PM
Finally, Rasanen see's some action and looks good, where did this kid Rubins come from, also huge and a good skater
"The Marlies are running a pair of Rubins - Rasanen and I gotta tell you, I freaking love it. They're both massive. But they both skate really well and jump up in the play. A 6'4" defenseman barreling towards you in front of the net? Tell me you're not scared"
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 01, 2019, 10:47:33 AM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev was eliminated from the playoffs the other day and will be joining the Marlies. He's already ELC'd so no need for an ATO.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 01, 2019, 12:23:42 PM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev was eliminated from the playoffs the other day and will be joining the Marlies. He's already ELC'd so no need for an ATO.
Not sure about him going to the Marlies. Right now his contract exempt towards the 50 limit. He's also only 18, but I'm not sure how the rules apply to him as he came across the pond to play in the OHL.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on April 01, 2019, 12:41:18 PM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev was eliminated from the playoffs the other day and will be joining the Marlies. He's already ELC'd so no need for an ATO.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think an ATO/PTO would be required to not start the clock on his ELC (or have him start counting towards the 50 contract limit, as Guilt Trip points out).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 01, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev was eliminated from the playoffs the other day and will be joining the Marlies. He's already ELC'd so no need for an ATO.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think an ATO/PTO would be required to not start the clock on his ELC (or have him start counting towards the 50 contract limit, as Guilt Trip points out).

He won't count against the contract limit (even if he would, the Leafs are only at 48) and he won't burn a year of his ELC unless he plays 10 NHL games (which he obviously won't).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on April 01, 2019, 12:57:45 PM
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev was eliminated from the playoffs the other day and will be joining the Marlies. He's already ELC'd so no need for an ATO.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think an ATO/PTO would be required to not start the clock on his ELC (or have him start counting towards the 50 contract limit, as Guilt Trip points out).

He won't count against the contract limit (even if he would, the Leafs are only at 48) and he won't burn a year of his ELC unless he plays 10 NHL games (which he obviously won't).

Right. Brain not fucntioning at full capacity today.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 01, 2019, 01:00:01 PM
Right. Brain not fucntioning at full capacity today.

It's ok, just say it was an April Fool's joke.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 01, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
Right. Brain not fucntioning at full capacity today.

It's ok, just say it was an April Fool's joke.

Friday Friyay!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on April 01, 2019, 01:11:43 PM
Right. Brain not fucntioning at full capacity today.

It's ok, just say it was an April Fool's joke.

April Fool's!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 01, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
Next year's Marlies defense depth, not including depth signings:

LDRD
Sandin
Borgman
Gordeev
O'Connell
Kral (maybe)
Liljegren
Hollowell
Duszak
Lindgren
Rasanen

I expect Subban and Corrado* to return, and LoVerde might take another 1 year deal.
* I have no information, just feeling like they'd like to keep rehabbing their game
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: bustaheims on April 01, 2019, 02:44:37 PM
I expect Subban and Corrado* to return, and LoVerde might take another 1 year deal.
* I have no information, just feeling like they'd like to keep rehabbing their game

Without some of the younger prospects heading to the ECHL, is there even really room on the roster for more than one of them? Also, I imagine the Leafs would like some NHL calibre depth guys, which Subban might be in a pinch, but I think that ship has sailed for Corrado and LoVerde.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 01, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
I expect Subban and Corrado* to return, and LoVerde might take another 1 year deal.
* I have no information, just feeling like they'd like to keep rehabbing their game

Without some of the younger prospects heading to the ECHL, is there even really room on the roster for more than one of them? Also, I imagine the Leafs would like some NHL calibre depth guys, which Subban might be in a pinch, but I think that ship has sailed for Corrado and LoVerde.

We're probably looking at Liljegren as the first call up, and Sandin for a real call up towards the end of the year. I'd still keep LoVerde around as the veteran shepherd and shutdown specialist; he knows his role now and the Marlies pay very well and the amenities are NHL level.

Holl is still under contract and I'm guessing he's not going to have any difficulty going down waivers (one-way deal) next season given his lacklustre/of starts. LD depth from the dregs of the UFA pile are the easiest, cheapest players to acquire, and even then I wouldn't be opposed to just re-upping Marincin for a year or two at 1M AAV if he's amenable to be the pressbox guy.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 01, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Next year's Marlies defense depth, not including depth signings:

LDRD
Sandin
Borgman
Gordeev
O'Connell
Kral (maybe)
Liljegren
Hollowell
Duszak
Lindgren
Rasanen

I expect Subban and Corrado* to return, and LoVerde might take another 1 year deal.
* I have no information, just feeling like they'd like to keep rehabbing their game

Is there any indication that O'Connell is going pro next season? He's only turning 20 this April so I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed in the NCAA for another year or two. And I mean considering his stat-line thinking he'd be even a good AHLer at this point might be a bit of a stretch.

Gordeev I could see going back to the OHL for his overage season, especially since most of his OHL career was spent wasted with Flint. Possibly ditto for Kral, or he's someone who I could see starting in the ECHL.

So that clears up some spots on the left, but the right is pretty crowded. But very, very young all around so I'd agree at least one of Subban/Corrado/LoVerde will likely be back for some veteran depth. Maybe even Marincin on the understanding that he'll be earmarked for the Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 02, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
Is there any indication that O'Connell is going pro next season? He's only turning 20 this April so I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed in the NCAA for another year or two. And I mean considering his stat-line thinking he'd be even a good AHLer at this point might be a bit of a stretch.

Nope, I just saw 20 years old this year and thought, hey that qualifies. I think you're right, he's going to finish school.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 04, 2019, 03:39:19 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2019, 10:59:10 AM
Good article from The Athletic reposted in PPP about Brazeau, Duzack and Colt Conrad. Duzack looks real good. 

https://theathletic.com/912620/2019/04/09/the-newest-marlies-a-breakdown-of-the-three-late-season-signings/
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 11, 2019, 11:36:32 AM
PPP has a goal scored by Marchment, don't know how to copy that for ya all. But it's an amazing thing to behold.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 11, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
PPP has a goal scored by Marchment, don't know how to copy that for ya all. But it's an amazing thing to behold.

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 11, 2019, 01:51:04 PM
PPP has a goal scored by Marchment, don't know how to copy that for ya all. But it's an amazing thing to behold.

That's def a WOW kind of goal. What an effort. I think we might just see this kid up next year.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 11, 2019, 02:57:56 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 11, 2019, 02:59:17 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.
I think Moore has more upside then 4th liner next year but I will take it for a start.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 11, 2019, 03:08:03 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.
I think Moore has more upside then 4th liner next year but I will take it for a start.

Moore is a complementary transition winger, so he could plug and play into any line. Gotta wait for Marleau's contract to finish up or see how Johnsson's deal shakes out (I think he bridges for 1-year). I don't think Hyman gets moved (but I also don't think Dubas re-signs him when he's due).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Frycer14 on April 11, 2019, 04:21:45 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.

I just can't get behind lack of size in the center hole so far down in the lineup.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 11, 2019, 04:41:39 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.

I just can't get behind lack of size in the center hole so far down in the lineup.

Technically, you don't have to.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 11, 2019, 05:07:14 PM
Marchment-Petan-Moore on the Leafs’ 4th line would work for me.

I just can't get behind lack of size in the center hole so far down in the lineup.

Technically, you don't have to.

Because Petan won't be playing centre next season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 11, 2019, 07:05:17 PM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2019, 12:09:40 PM
Where did this guy Kristians Rubins come from, looks like another Dubas steal and reclamation project.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 19, 2019, 04:58:52 PM

Remember when we were finally going to get proof this guy existed and then... it just didn't happen?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on April 19, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
 It’s a long Con.   Connor McDavid is going to go missing during the off-season. Korshkov will show up at training camp looking oddly similar
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 19, 2019, 05:55:47 PM

Remember when we were finally going to get proof this guy existed and then... it just didn't happen?

His KHL contract officially expires May 1. To come here earlier (i.e. upon elimination, which has happened already), Lokomotiv would have approve that exception, + ATO from Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 19, 2019, 06:48:56 PM
His KHL contract officially expires May 1. To come here earlier (i.e. upon elimination, which has happened already), Lokomotiv would have approve that exception, + ATO from Marlies.

Sure but a prominent Russian hockey writer would have know all that before reporting that he thought he was coming over.

Anyway, I'm just continuing to push my theory that he's not real and anyone who says otherwise is a sheep.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 20, 2019, 09:33:21 AM
He’s been invited to Russia’s team for the World Championships.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on April 20, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
Marlies are up 1-0 against Rochester in their playoff opening series.   Kasimir stopped 29 of 30 shots.  Sandin picked up 3 assists in the win.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on April 20, 2019, 10:57:23 AM
Marlies are up 1-0 against Rochester in their playoff opening series.   Kasimir stopped 29 of 30 shots.  Sandin picked up 3 assists in the win.
Music to my ears!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 20, 2019, 11:04:43 AM
I know Kasimir has had a rough season, but in the last 10 of the season has looked very good.  He seems to have an upside.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 20, 2019, 12:52:17 PM

Just casually being awesome
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 20, 2019, 03:07:56 PM

Just casually being awesome
I know it's the AHL but wow, that kid looks awesome. You never know, but he may be too good for the AHL next season..We can hope.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 20, 2019, 04:41:17 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 20, 2019, 05:09:45 PM
Wow. For a rookie? Crazy numbers. Let's hope he can keep progressing!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 21, 2019, 06:48:21 PM
Wow. For a rookie? Crazy numbers. Let's hope he can keep progressing!
Sandin is the real deal folks!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 21, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
Marlies win Game 2 in overtime, Bracco with 2 goals! Sandin another assist.
Kasmiri K saves 40 of 42 shots.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on April 21, 2019, 07:31:31 PM
Marlies win Game 2 in overtime, Bracco with 2 goals! Sandin another assist.
Kasmiri K saves 40 of 42 shots.
Bracco is really proving me wrong here. I thought he wouldn't amount to much. Looks to be our best wing prospect.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 21, 2019, 07:37:52 PM
Ya when Yzerman signs Marner to a 15 million a year offer sheet, Bracco can step right in.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 21, 2019, 07:51:10 PM
Ya when Yzerman signs Marner to a 15 million a year offer sheet, Bracco can step right in.
Haha. No one is offering him 15 mill but if he does sign an offer sheet to that kind of money, see you later.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 22, 2019, 08:04:14 PM
Just saying the conjecture was that Stevie Z will be making one or two bold moves, how does Marner help your team?  We need to keep him for the rest of his career.  He bleeds blue and white, like Tavares.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 22, 2019, 08:27:16 PM
Did you see Bracco's goal in Game 2 to make it 2-2, wild skill set!  Sorry don't know how to post that.  Todays reminder is never drive on Hwy 15 in Salt Lake City. If the Leafs don't kill you this drive will. Makes the 401 look like a go cart track..LOL
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 22, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
Sorry that goal was the game winner! Amazing skill.   KK as I will now call him as to say his name is beyond belief, try that after a couple of Bacardi's.  KK is probably going to take Sparks backup job away from him with this kind of goaltending. Watch the 2nd game in 6!  And you do know I love Sparks, can see him as Riemer's back up in Florida.
Bracco is sort of like Marner on speed, with most of the talent  (not quite as much), but he has a heavy need to be the star. 
Maybe this is lost on the Leafs with so many stars. Perhaps they depend on the teammates to make the great play instead of them all trying to be great. Just want to see the big team firing on all cylinders for Game 7. NO more excuses. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 22, 2019, 09:30:30 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 22, 2019, 10:45:49 PM
Thanks for posting the video Herman. What a goal. What a goal. Sick, sick, sick....if KK can keep up this kind of play, well there will be some easy decisions for the Leafs brass in the near future. Confidence is 99% of Goaltending, the other 1% of 99% of self doubt.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on April 23, 2019, 09:38:13 AM
Thanks for posting the video Herman. What a goal. What a goal. Sick, sick, sick....if KK can keep up this kind of play, well there will be some easy decisions for the Leafs brass in the near future. Confidence is 99% of Goaltending, the other 1% of 99% of self doubt.

I think skill and athletic ability might be worth at least a couple of percentage points.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 23, 2019, 06:42:23 PM
Thanks for posting the video Herman. What a goal. What a goal. Sick, sick, sick....if KK can keep up this kind of play, well there will be some easy decisions for the Leafs brass in the near future. Confidence is 99% of Goaltending, the other 1% of 99% of self doubt.

I think skill and athletic ability might be worth at least a couple of percentage points.
Agreed Bullfrog, I was talking more about how a great Goalie with skill and ability can sink below the waves without Confidence. Not saying Sparks is a great Goalie but he certainly did lose his confidence to be an above average Goalie.
Must say the swagger that KK has found in his game is a little Fredo Andersonish. Some of his moves remind me of Freddie, now KK lost his confidence early in the season but has been above .950 in his two playoff games.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on April 24, 2019, 11:17:54 AM
Rosen is joining the Marlies playoff push. 

Is Trevor Moore eligible to join them?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on April 24, 2019, 11:21:13 AM
Rosen is joining the Marlies playoff push. 

Is Trevor Moore eligible to join them?

That's huge for the Marlies, he was arguably their best dman.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 24, 2019, 04:41:51 PM
Rosen is joining the Marlies playoff push. 

Is Trevor Moore eligible to join them?
I think he is also. That would be huge for them to.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 24, 2019, 10:02:35 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2019, 07:12:39 AM
Why would they need to do an exit meeting with Hutch? He didn't even play once recalled.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 25, 2019, 07:19:29 AM

Marlies sweep Calder Cup favourites in 3

Keefe gives puck luck a stick tap for the assist, and some recent draft picks for this strong play.

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 25, 2019, 07:21:32 AM
Why would they need to do an exit meeting with Hutch? He didn't even play once recalled.

He’s UFA so maybe they want to discuss with him about his future leanings. More pertinent to the present, his wife just gave birth a couple of weeks ago so they’re probably not rushing him back into service now that their backup requirement is gone.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2019, 07:33:42 AM
It's pretty impressive that Hollowell played so well in his debut in a playoff clinching game.  Smart move by the coach to dress 7 defenceman too, just in case Mac was overwhelmed by the moment he had 6 others to fall back on. Luckily he played really well, there is hope in the pipeline!!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2019, 09:05:45 AM
Really hoping Sandin can make the jump next year with Liljegren and possibly Hollowell a few years later.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 25, 2019, 09:11:34 AM
Really hoping Sandin can make the jump next year with Liljegren and possibly Hollowell a few years later.

Hollowell (98) is older than both Liljegren (99) and Sandin (00) so I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the earlier call as yo-yo (Rosen + Hollowell occasional bottom pair), while they nurse Sandin-Liljegren into top-pair Marlies minutes. Sandin is sort of already there minutes-wise.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2019, 09:15:27 AM
Hollowell (98) is older than both Liljegren (99) and Sandin (00) so I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the earlier call as yo-yo (Rosen + Hollowell occasional bottom pair), while they nurse Sandin-Liljegren into top-pair Marlies minutes. Sandin is sort of already there minutes-wise.

I don't think age is really going to have anything to do with it. Liljegren will have 2 years of AHL hockey under his belt next season, plus 2 partial seasons of playing against men professionally in Sweden prior to that. He'll be ahead of Hollowell, an AHL rookie, on the call-up list next season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 25, 2019, 09:29:10 AM
Hollowell (98) is older than both Liljegren (99) and Sandin (00) so I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the earlier call as yo-yo (Rosen + Hollowell occasional bottom pair), while they nurse Sandin-Liljegren into top-pair Marlies minutes. Sandin is sort of already there minutes-wise.

I don't think age is really going to have anything to do with it. Liljegren will have 2 years of AHL hockey under his belt next season, plus 2 partial seasons of playing against men professionally in Sweden prior to that. He'll be ahead of Hollowell, an AHL rookie, on the call-up list next season.

Good points. I now recall Dubas did let out that Liljegren was going to get a late season look but his ankle injury kiboshed that. I am still wary of yo-yoing your premium prospects into limited minutes/pressbox duty so that's why I figured Hollowell would fit better.

I do see, based on our drafts and Dubas' inclinations, that our bottom-3, bottom-pairings will all likely be cheap skill players like Mac and Moore.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on April 25, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
Yeah I mean at this point Kasimir deserves to start and Hutch has a baby.   He should enjoy family life during the off-season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 25, 2019, 10:57:33 AM
Why would they need to do an exit meeting with Hutch? He didn't even play once recalled.
They don't need him right now the way KK is playing.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2019, 11:14:59 AM
Hollowell (98) is older than both Liljegren (99) and Sandin (00) so I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the earlier call as yo-yo (Rosen + Hollowell occasional bottom pair), while they nurse Sandin-Liljegren into top-pair Marlies minutes. Sandin is sort of already there minutes-wise.

I don't think age is really going to have anything to do with it. Liljegren will have 2 years of AHL hockey under his belt next season, plus 2 partial seasons of playing against men professionally in Sweden prior to that. He'll be ahead of Hollowell, an AHL rookie, on the call-up list next season.
Age and/or time in the AHL will not decide anything. If Dubas thinks they're ready, they're coming up. In this day of the NHL, the players are all starting younger because they can handle it. I think it's black and white, either ready, or not. I won't be surprised to see both Sandin and Liljegren make the club out of training camp and if they do, that will be huge for this team.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 25, 2019, 12:41:36 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 25, 2019, 12:45:30 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).

Assuming Muzzin extends here?

Dermott was injured.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2019, 01:14:45 PM


Dermott was injured.
Which is why Rosen should have played.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 25, 2019, 05:17:23 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).

Assuming Muzzin extends here?

Dermott was injured.
Yes, I like Dermott but forgot Rosen, which is not good as he deserves a spot,  I think extending Muzzin makes sense especially when paired with a D-Man who can move the puck. He hits and will play better when not paired with Zaitzev.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2019, 07:39:49 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).

Assuming Muzzin extends here?

Dermott was injured.
Yes, I like Dermott but forgot Rosen, which is not good as he deserves a spot,  I think extending Muzzin makes sense especially when paired with a D-Man who can move the puck. He hits and will play better when not paired with Zaitzev.
And Muzz played well with Zaitsev. He had a big influence on him. Zaitsev hadn't looked that good in a long time.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 25, 2019, 08:01:02 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).

Assuming Muzzin extends here?

Dermott was injured.
Yes, I like Dermott but forgot Rosen, which is not good as he deserves a spot,  I think extending Muzzin makes sense especially when paired with a D-Man who can move the puck. He hits and will play better when not paired with Zaitzev.
And Muzz played well with Zaitsev. He had a big influence on him. Zaitsev hadn't looked that good in a long time.
So do we want to give the Z another year at 4. something million or move in someone who may be a lot more confident moving the puck at a fraction of the price.  I just want sound confident D Men like Muzzin, or like Sandin seems to be, very deliberate with the puck.  I think next year our D will be a lot better, in two very good, and then our core forwards are only 23. Isn't that a nice scenario?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2019, 08:11:48 PM
Both Hollowell and Duzak are RHD men. In two years Leaf D
Reilly-Lilypad
Muzzin-Duzak
Sandin-Hollowell
Dermot (who played like doggie do do in the Boston series).

Assuming Muzzin extends here?

Dermott was injured.
Yes, I like Dermott but forgot Rosen, which is not good as he deserves a spot,  I think extending Muzzin makes sense especially when paired with a D-Man who can move the puck. He hits and will play better when not paired with Zaitzev.
And Muzz played well with Zaitsev. He had a big influence on him. Zaitsev hadn't looked that good in a long time.
So do we want to give the Z another year at 4. something million or move in someone who may be a lot more confident moving the puck at a fraction of the price.  I just want sound confident D Men like Muzzin, or like Sandin seems to be, very deliberate with the puck.  I think next year our D will be a lot better, in two very good, and then our core forwards are only 23. Isn't that a nice scenario?
I think they have to move on from Zaitsev if they can. While I thought he played well against the Bruins overall, his puck movement is def a weak spot of his game. I think they can replace him from within. Dermott is being groomed for the right side so you could put him or Liljegren with the Muzz. I watched some Marlie action and saw him on the right side at times also. If this was Zaitsevs first year I'd be encouraged but it isn't. I don't see him improving. Now if the plan is to get rid of Babs, a new system might be beneficial to him.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 26, 2019, 11:04:42 AM
Moore's been loaned back to the Marlies as well now.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on April 26, 2019, 11:28:01 AM
Moore's been loaned back to the Marlies as well now.


Trying to turn them into a super team again
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 26, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
If KK can keep up his insane save percentage and with Moore back, we have a good chance at a repeat.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 26, 2019, 01:12:49 PM
and now Hutch
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Post by: herman on April 27, 2019, 01:04:38 PM
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Korshkov got cut from the IIHF Worlds team because Washington and Tampa are both out of the playoffs (Malkin?). Zaitsev should be joining them as well (he'll probably score 7 goals).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 27, 2019, 01:10:28 PM
Hopefully we well get to see what we drafted 2nd for.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on April 27, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Hopefully we well get to see what we drafted 2nd for.

Well it won't be 41 NHL goals at age 21
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on April 27, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
I'd be happy with 14 when he turns 22.  Looks like a season in the AHL is in the offing for Korshi
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2019, 03:12:22 PM
I'd be happy with 14 when he turns 22.  Looks like a season in the AHL is in the offing for Korshi
Me too. Let's hope he works out.
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Post by: herman on April 28, 2019, 06:18:16 PM
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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 01, 2019, 08:45:39 AM

Could it be?!
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Post by: Bender on May 01, 2019, 08:55:02 AM

Could it be?!

Korshkov?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 01, 2019, 09:09:05 AM

He exists!!!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 01, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
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51Leafs had this yesterday. See his tweets for a bunch of Korshkov highlights.
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Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 01, 2019, 09:29:00 AM
51Leafs had this yesterday. See his tweets for a bunch of Korshkov highlights.

Oh nice I get to view every single one of his points this season better settle in for a long... and it's over.

For the record, starting next season I'll forget about his draft position and the fact that he's like 28 years old or whatever and just hope that he can eventually provide the Leafs with some very effective bottom-6 minutes. But I'm not quite ready to turn over that leaf yet.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 01, 2019, 09:52:57 AM
Oh nice I get to view every single one of his points this season better settle in for a long... and it's over.

For the record, starting next season I'll forget about his draft position and the fact that he's like 28 years old or whatever and just hope that he can eventually provide the Leafs with some very effective bottom-6 minutes. But I'm not quite ready to turn over that leaf yet.
lol

Looks like I have to change the way his name is anglicized now.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2019/5/1/18524467/egor-korshkov-is-now-a-toronto-maple-leaf-toronto-marlies
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 01, 2019, 10:19:43 AM
Can somebody remind me what Hunter was smoking when he picked Korshkov in the 2nd round?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 01, 2019, 10:33:41 AM
Looks like I have to change the way his name is anglicized now.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2019/5/1/18524467/egor-korshkov-is-now-a-toronto-maple-leaf-toronto-marlies

This is actually perfect. I've never said a bad thing about Egor Korshkov. I wish him the best of luck as a Leaf.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 01, 2019, 11:23:48 AM
Can somebody remind me what Hunter was smoking when he picked Korshkov in the 2nd round?
Russian Kush!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 01, 2019, 04:39:20 PM
Marlies home games are on TSN 2 starting tonight.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on May 01, 2019, 08:35:40 PM
Marlies home games are on TSN 2 starting tonight.
Any streaming options?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 01, 2019, 08:42:58 PM
Marlies home games are on TSN 2 starting tonight.
Any streaming options?
Here's a site I'm using...just click on the Marlie game.
www.onhockey.com

direct link 
https://ustreamix.su/stream.php?id=tsn-2&token=d82-6fd-a6d-d17-680-209-c33-89b-b4f-60c-5b
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 01, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Sandin is playing both the left and right side. Rosen left the game with an injury. Marlies with 3 pp goals, leading 4-2 late in the 2nd.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 01, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Liljegren and Sandin are the real deals. I can see both being on the Leafs next year. Sandin doesn't look 18, so poised with the puck and plays smart. Liljegren reminds me of Rielly, always jumping up in the play. Bracco will def get a good look to. Marlies win 5-2 and only allow 16 shots. Bracco with 4 ats, Moore with 2g, 1 ast, Sandin 2ast. Lots of kids to like on that team.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 01, 2019, 10:28:28 PM

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Post by: Bender on May 01, 2019, 10:42:12 PM

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Holy shit. It never ceases to amaze me how many goons are in the A. Jesus, I'd rather have hockey with mostly no hitting than that.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 01, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
Def dirty hit on Borgman. Should be a suspension on that one.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bullfrog on May 02, 2019, 07:49:57 AM
Liljegren and Sandin are the real deals. I can see both being on the Leafs next year. Sandin doesn't look 18, so poised with the puck and plays smart. Liljegren reminds me of Rielly, always jumping up in the play. Bracco will def get a good look to. Marlies win 5-2 and only allow 16 shots. Bracco with 4 ats, Moore with 2g, 1 ast, Sandin 2ast. Lots of kids to like on that team.

I agree with your enthusiasm, but, Moore is 24, so I think he's past the kid stage.  ;)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on May 02, 2019, 09:30:17 AM
I didn't catch the whole game but I was impressed by how Sandin specifically looked. Looks like a good skater and slick passer. Definitely well suited to today's game. Liljegren reminds me a bit of Gardiner in that he can use his edges and fake outs to get out of danger. Hasn't put up the points we thought he would though.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 10:20:09 AM
Pierre Engvall, in case you missed it (https://theathletic.com/945464/2019/04/26/versatile-marlies-forward-pierre-engvall-could-be-a-solution-to-maple-leafs-centre-depth-woes/), is being groomed this season to play centre (accelerated due to necessity).

He played shutdown minutes on Gauthier's wing last year after making the jump across the pond at the end of the season. If you're not familiar with him, he's Gauthier sized, with an exponentially better shot, AND skates faster than Connor Brown.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 02, 2019, 11:32:30 AM
I'm not convinced that he'd be the 4C of my dreams but he's cheap and might be better than the Goat so yeah why not.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 11:42:33 AM
I'm not convinced that he'd be the 4C of my dreams but he's cheap and might be better than the Goat so yeah why not.

I think he's 3rd line LW after the deadline next season, and can be a spare C there on out.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: louisstamos on May 02, 2019, 11:47:33 AM
I was at the game last night, and I was thoroughly impressed by Sandin.  While I think Liljegren has more of the physical tools (looks like a faster skater in my eyes, and looks bigger even if they're both listed as 6'0), Sandin is so smart on the ice, and his hockey smarts are through the roof.  It seems like he's full aware of everything happening around him - he broke up at least 2 breakaway passes by being in the right place at the right time.  Even Hollowell looked good in his minutes, but I feel like he still needs some seasoning.

Also, Cleveland plays some goon hockey.  It wasn't even that they were down and gooning it up - they started it when they were up 2-1!

My favourite part of the evening though was in the last 3 minutes, Clevland pulling the goalie on the PP for a 6-4, and the Marlies icing the puck 4 or 5 times and each of them missing the net.  We wanted to see an empty goal *so* bad and started chanting "one more time!  one more time!"
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 02, 2019, 11:51:13 AM
I think he's 3rd line LW after the deadline next season, and can be a spare C there on out.

I gotta think Mikheyev or my new buddy Egor or even Moore will have better chances of supplanting Marleau on that line, and I'm not particularly jacked about any of them being there. So Engvall being there seems like a stretch.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 12:05:11 PM
I think he's 3rd line LW after the deadline next season, and can be a spare C there on out.

I gotta think Mikheyev or my new buddy Egor or even Moore will have better chances of supplanting Marleau on that line, and I'm not particularly jacked about any of them being there. So Engvall being there seems like a stretch.

At 6'4", he can make that reach. My estimation is predicated on Johnsson being traded at his peak value as part of a package for big name defense.

Edit: He's 6'5" now
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 01:47:05 PM

That's a relief, but still a significant blow to our defense group.

Marincin opted to participate at the Worlds for his home country, so he was not loaned to the Marlies, making Sandin our only active LD (lol).

LD: Sandin, Borgman (out), Rosen (out)
RD: LoVerde, Liljegren, Hollowell, Subban, Oleksy, Duszak, Corrado (out, I think)

Maybe they call up Rubins or Jardine from Newfoundland if they're allowed to (I don't know), or just roll with a couple of RR pairs (Subban has played left side previously). Rasanen is working out with the development group on a PTO, so technically he can be pressed into service if desperate.

Edit: This feels very familiar.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 02, 2019, 02:33:26 PM
Liljegren and Sandin are the real deals. I can see both being on the Leafs next year. Sandin doesn't look 18, so poised with the puck and plays smart. Liljegren reminds me of Rielly, always jumping up in the play. Bracco will def get a good look to. Marlies win 5-2 and only allow 16 shots. Bracco with 4 ats, Moore with 2g, 1 ast, Sandin 2ast. Lots of kids to like on that team.

I agree with your enthusiasm, but, Moore is 24, so I think he's past the kid stage.  ;)
Haha, you know what I meant.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 02, 2019, 02:53:55 PM

That's a relief, but still a significant blow to our defense group.

Marincin opted to participate at the Worlds for his home country, so he was not loaned to the Marlies, making Sandin our only active LD (lol).

LD: Sandin, Borgman (out), Rosen (out)
RD: LoVerde, Liljegren, Hollowell, Subban, Oleksy, Duszak, Corrado (out, I think)

Maybe they call up Rubins or Jardine from Newfoundland if they're allowed to (I don't know), or just roll with a couple of RR pairs (Subban has played left side previously). Rasanen is working out with the development group on a PTO, so technically he can be pressed into service if desperate.
Borgman was head hunted last night by a huge fellow with big elbows.  That should have been a suspension. Poor Borg, can't seem to get a break.  Hate to see concussion derail his future.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 07:01:48 PM
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/05/02/sheldon-keefe-on-yegor-korshkov-hes-certainly-got-size-and-is-a-presence-out-there-but-i-also-like-how-he-skates-and-shoots-the-puck/

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You’ve gotten to see [Egor] Korshkov once in practice. He looked big, didn’t he?

Keefe: He’s certainly got size and is a presence out there, for sure. But I also like how he skates and shoots the puck. He is picking up the language better than we had anticipated. Timashov is really helping with that, but also just in the one-on-one engagement with him, he has got a general idea and most importantly, seems to have a real good sense around the rink on the ice of where to go and what is required. There is somewhat of a universal language when it comes to hockey and he seems to have that figured out. That is going to really help.

Could he play tomorrow night?

Keefe: We’re going to see how it is in the morning. He’s had a lot of stuff going on here. It has been a bit of whirlwind since he arrived. Certainly, we anticipate him getting in the series here very soon — if not tomorrow, it’ll be when we get down to Cleveland. We wanted to get him as integrated as possible and today’s practice will probably be our last practice for a while. We are going to see how he feels in the morning and make a call then.
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Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
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This is a pretty weak sentence.

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Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
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Borgman has a concussion history so this is promising. But I also know that concussions sometimes kick in a few days later.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on May 03, 2019, 03:31:07 PM

That's a relief, but still a significant blow to our defense group.

Marincin opted to participate at the Worlds for his home country, so he was not loaned to the Marlies, making Sandin our only active LD (lol).

LD: Sandin, Borgman (out), Rosen (out)
RD: LoVerde, Liljegren, Hollowell, Subban, Oleksy, Duszak, Corrado (out, I think)

Maybe they call up Rubins or Jardine from Newfoundland if they're allowed to (I don't know), or just roll with a couple of RR pairs (Subban has played left side previously). Rasanen is working out with the development group on a PTO, so technically he can be pressed into service if desperate.

Edit: This feels very familiar.

I'd be very interested taking a look at Duszak.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 04:18:51 PM
All the Marlies games going forward are on TSN right?  Hopefully it's a good broadcast.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
All the Marlies games going forward are on TSN right?  Hopefully it's a good broadcast.
TSN 2 and just home games. Apparently you can also watch all the games on the Maple Leafs App.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 03, 2019, 07:24:31 PM
Bracco is an AHL cheat code.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 03, 2019, 07:27:19 PM
Get your brooms out boys, the repeat is on.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
Get your brooms out boys, the repeat is on.

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Paging Bender
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 03, 2019, 07:40:06 PM
Korshkov looks good.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 07:45:49 PM
Mac Hollowell is fantastic breaking the puck up the ice. He still needs a good deal of work when the puck is coming the other way.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 03, 2019, 07:52:44 PM
Mac Hollowell is fantastic breaking the puck up the ice. He still needs a good deal of work when the puck is coming the other way.

He should get a lot of ice next season given Keefe will be bringing Sandin-Liljegren with him to the big club.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 08:36:34 PM
Egor :)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 08:36:46 PM
Korshkov just scored; Hunter giving us the I told you so
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 03, 2019, 08:37:01 PM
Korshkov just scored; Hunter giving us the I told you so

Hunter drafted Yegor, not Egor.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 03, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
Korshkov just scored; Hunter giving us the I told you so

Hunter drafted Yegor, not Egor.


Debrincat who?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 08:41:26 PM
Korshkov just scored; Hunter giving us the I told you so
Set up from Sandin and Hollowell. Beauty. At the game and have to say Liljegrem and Sandin should come up as a pairing. Their skating an awareness of each other is really impressive.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
And I love Keefe. He even played Hollowell and Duszak as a pairing.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 08:48:34 PM
And I love Keefe. He even played Hollowell and Duszak as a pairing.


Dubas wants to fire Babcock and announce Keefe but he has to wait for June again cause Keefe is working
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 08:51:41 PM
Just thinking, they showed Dubas, Gilman, Fletch all watching the game did anyone notice Babcock? Wouldn't he want to be there to see potential Leafs for next season??
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 08:53:03 PM
And I love Keefe. He even played Hollowell and Duszak as a pairing.


Dubas wants to fire Babcock and announce Keefe but he has to wait for June again cause Keefe is working
I hope you're right lol.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
Just thinking, they showed Dubas, Gilman, Fletch all watching the game did anyone notice Babcock? Wouldn't he want to be there to see potential Leafs for next season??
He was at game 1. Not sure if he's here or not. Could have been his round!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 09:42:39 PM
Going to OT. KK with some big saves but should have had 2 of them. Duszak is a tough kid. Won't back down from anyone. Out on the ice with 3 to play in the 3rd. Hollowell starts a lot in the O zone. Fun game.
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Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 09:54:16 PM
Leivo Carcone!
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Post by: Zee on May 03, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
Of course the Italian guy gets the winner.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 03, 2019, 10:01:17 PM
With an assist on the GWG that gives Bracco 10 points in 5 playoff games.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 03, 2019, 10:12:30 PM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 03, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Great game. Wonder what the ice time stat is for Sandin. He seems to be on the ice every other shift. They play him a lot. If and I mean if he keeps playing like this, he'll be on the Leafs next year. He is sooo smart. Liljegren is also very good and I can see him on the Leafs as well. I love Marchments game as well. He's perfect to start on the 4th line next season. Korshkov is a big dude. Anyway there are many kids to like on that team.  Future looks bright.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 04, 2019, 08:46:48 AM
With an assist on the GWG that gives Bracco 10 points in 5 playoff games.


Could Bracco be next seasons Johnsson for the Leafs? If we lose one or Johnsson or Kappy due to contact maybe this guy (along with Moore) can slot in.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
With an assist on the GWG that gives Bracco 10 points in 5 playoff games.


Could Bracco be next seasons Johnsson for the Leafs? If we lose one or Johnsson or Kappy due to contact maybe this guy (along with Moore) can slot in.

They occupy very different lineup niches.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 04, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
Korshkov just scored; Hunter giving us the I told you so

Hunter drafted Yegor, not Egor.
Yes that was his evil twin brother....honestly we have several excellent prospects, and finally some promise in the D.  Hollowell, Duzak, Sandin, Lillyman nice... Engvall sure looks like a good upgrade on the Goat
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Bender on May 04, 2019, 11:51:18 AM
With an assist on the GWG that gives Bracco 10 points in 5 playoff games.


Could Bracco be next seasons Johnsson for the Leafs? If we lose one or Johnsson or Kappy due to contact maybe this guy (along with Moore) can slot in.

They occupy very different lineup niches.
Meaning what exactly? Bracco being more of a playmaking winger than a bump and grind goal scorer?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 04, 2019, 01:20:56 PM
Bracco’s skillset is closer to Marner’s in all honesty, I’d love to see him reunited with Matthews.

They had a special connection with the USNTDP.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 04, 2019, 01:27:27 PM
Bracco’s skillset is closer to Marner’s in all honesty, I’d love to see him reunited with Matthews.

They had a special connection with the USNTDP.
I was going to say this. Bracco would probably be more suited for Matthews as he is a playmaking winger.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 04, 2019, 01:32:41 PM
Bracco’s skillset is closer to Marner’s in all honesty, I’d love to see him reunited with Matthews.

They had a special connection with the USNTDP.
I was going to say this. Bracco would probably be more suited for Matthews as he is a playmaking winger.

Kadri and Marner looked great together 2 seasons ago. Giving him a playmaking winger like Bracco might be just what he needs to get his goals total back into the 20s. But penciling him into a role with Matthews seems pretty premature to me at this point.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 04, 2019, 01:34:53 PM
... Engvall sure looks like a good upgrade on the Goat
Definitely would be. Throw in Brooks too.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 04, 2019, 01:40:02 PM
Bracco’s skillset is closer to Marner’s in all honesty, I’d love to see him reunited with Matthews.

They had a special connection with the USNTDP.
I was going to say this. Bracco would probably be more suited for Matthews as he is a playmaking winger.

Kadri and Marner looked great together 2 seasons ago. Giving him a playmaking winger like Bracco might be just what he needs to get his goals total back into the 20s. But penciling him into a role with Matthews seems pretty premature to me at this point.
I don't know if he even makes the big club but he's the type of winger that would do well with Matthews. Who knows what the plan is even with Kadri at this point. Leafs def have some options.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 04, 2019, 02:48:02 PM
Bracco’s skillset is closer to Marner’s in all honesty, I’d love to see him reunited with Matthews.

They had a special connection with the USNTDP.
I was going to say this. Bracco would probably be more suited for Matthews as he is a playmaking winger.

Kadri and Marner looked great together 2 seasons ago. Giving him a playmaking winger like Bracco might be just what he needs to get his goals total back into the 20s. But penciling him into a role with Matthews seems pretty premature to me at this point.

Yeah Bracco is Marner-lite: smaller, not as high a top speed (but oh boy the edgework), slightly weaker defensively.

He'd be a good foil for a shooting centre, but I am inclined to use him as trade bait considering the depth he is behind. Nylander and Marner (barring a ridiculously negotiation FUBAR) are't going anywhere anytime soon. He was a good failsafe option if Marner didn't work out but now, Kadri might appreciate it if Bracco could be flipped for someone like a Josh Anderson, whom it was rumoured Dubas was after earlier (slot shooter + PK capabilities and can also muck it up with Kadri).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 04, 2019, 03:00:44 PM
You really got to hand it to the Leafs for all their recent draft choices . They seem to be hitting on a ton of them. I recall years past when we would have more losers than winners come form the draft.

Thank god the team we have running the draft are good at their jobs ! With the salary cap about to smother the ability to sign or trade for established high end talent , we will be relying more and more on those picks coming through.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 04, 2019, 03:33:28 PM
You really got to hand it to the Leafs for all their recent draft choices . They seem to be hitting on a ton of them. I recall years past when we would have more losers than winners come form the draft.

Thank god the team we have running the draft are good at their jobs ! With the salary cap about to smother the ability to sign or trade for established high end talent , we will be relying more and more on those picks coming through.
Its a great point, and the Leafs seem to have unlimited funds for team building, scouting, facilities, specialized training, heck Soshnikov said the other day, that he didn't understand how great the Leaf organization was until he went to St.Louis, still a fine organization but not up to Leaf standards.  Why wouldn't a player want to be involved with our org?  Oh Babcock!!!!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 05, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
https://theathletic.com/957960/2019/05/04/the-future-of-the-leafs-defence-is-on-display-with-the-marlies-and-its-as-small-as-it-is-talented/

Rielly + these guys in the next year or two
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 05, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 05, 2019, 05:28:56 PM
Timashov with the dagger
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Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 05, 2019, 05:30:28 PM
6-0

1 win from consecutive sweeps.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 05, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
The Marlies have been good at times but mostly lucky and have been winning thanks to a red hot PP and Kasimir Kaskisuo playing bananas.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 05, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
The Marlies have been good at times but mostly lucky and have been winning thanks to a red hot PP and Kasimir Kaskisuo playing bananas.
Wish the Leafs could be that lucky...lol. Whatever the formula, it's working.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 05, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
I'd love to see the Leafs sweep even one series let alone consecutive ones. Last Leafs sweep was against Ottawa a thousand years ago
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 05, 2019, 07:11:58 PM
Without a salary cap and teams generally not being much more than a pantry for prospects or cast offs, the Marlies stand head and shoulders above most of the AHL field. Most teams are good because of the vets (AAAA or demoted NHL vets); the Marlies are predominantly led by their young prospects, reinforced with the creme de la creme of AHL veterans (Mueller, LoVerde).

There would have been more hype for the Marlies this year if Kaskisuo was even remotely average during the regular season, or if Pickard/McElhinney were available to us. KK is getting a sharp SV% regression this month but it’s going to come back down eventually. Marlies need to tighten up a bit going forward.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 05, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
Without a salary cap and teams generally not being much more than a pantry for prospects or cast offs, the Marlies stand head and shoulders above most of the AHL field. Most teams are good because of the vets (AAAA or demoted NHL vets); the Marlies are predominantly led by their young prospects, reinforced with the creme de la creme of AHL veterans (Mueller, LoVerde).

There would have been more hype for the Marlies this year if Kaskisuo was even remotely average during the regular season, or if Pickard/McElhinney were available to us. KK is getting a sharp SV% regression this month but it’s going to come back down eventually. Marlies need to tighten up a bit going forward.


You make a good point. Marlies are what the Leafs could be without a salary cap and an owner that wants to win. 
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 06, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
The Marlies have been good at times but mostly lucky and have been winning thanks to a red hot PP and Kasimir Kaskisuo playing bananas.

I can’t agree with that. Luck doesn’t carry a team to almost 2 playoff sweeps. Not to blow the Dubas horn to loudly hear, but I believe we’re seeing this young Marlie team play exactly the way he built them and wants them to play. I think it’s also the way he’s trying to build and get the Leafs to play. They’re fast but not overly large and they all seem to have high hockey IQs.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 06, 2019, 10:25:04 AM
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Those Sandin-Liljegren numbers :o
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 06, 2019, 10:31:06 AM
SV% luck absolutely does carry for 2 series or more (see Fleury for Vegas last year). 0.953 is a not a sustainable number and if we keep giving up over 30 shots a game without putting up similar or greater from our side, that regression will be rough.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 06, 2019, 11:51:20 AM
Without a salary cap and teams generally not being much more than a pantry for prospects or cast offs, the Marlies stand head and shoulders above most of the AHL field. Most teams are good because of the vets (AAAA or demoted NHL vets); the Marlies are predominantly led by their young prospects, reinforced with the creme de la creme of AHL veterans (Mueller, LoVerde).

There would have been more hype for the Marlies this year if Kaskisuo was even remotely average during the regular season, or if Pickard/McElhinney were available to us. KK is getting a sharp SV% regression this month but it’s going to come back down eventually. Marlies need to tighten up a bit going forward.


You make a good point. Marlies are what the Leafs could be without a salary cap and an owner that wants to win.
I think Larry T wants to win as bad as any of us. Leafs couldn't build Rome in a day, they built a great forward core, now the D we will start to see next year will propel us to more than round one success.
And perhaps KK becomes our backup. Babcock is finished with Sparks.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 06, 2019, 11:56:48 AM
And perhaps KK becomes our backup.

Statistically speaking he was one of the worst goalies in the AHL this season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 06, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
SV% luck absolutely does carry for 2 series or more (see Fleury for Vegas last year). 0.953 is a not a sustainable number and if we keep giving up over 30 shots a game without putting up similar or greater from our side, that regression will be rough.

 I don’t want to get into semantics with you Herman. There’s always some luck in winning hockey games and playoff rounds. I just can’t agree with you saying its mostly luck. That would imply the success of this team is mostly based on luck.

Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 06, 2019, 12:24:47 PM
SV% luck absolutely does carry for 2 series or more (see Fleury for Vegas last year). 0.953 is a not a sustainable number and if we keep giving up over 30 shots a game without putting up similar or greater from our side, that regression will be rough.

 I don’t want to get into semantics with you Herman. There’s always some luck in winning hockey games and playoff rounds. I just can’t agree with you saying its mostly luck. That would imply the success of this team is mostly based on luck.

Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.
I think we have one hell of a lot of talent, doesn't hurt that KK is standing on his head.. I remember him showing some good flashes of ability just after we signed him.  What happened in the first half of this season has made him a a better goalie. Like to read an article about what happened and when the light switch turned on.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 06, 2019, 02:40:11 PM
Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.

I know you don't want to get into semantics, but can you elaborate on the distinction here?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on May 06, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.

I know you don't want to get into semantics, but can you elaborate on the distinction here?
The question reminds me of a moment years ago when a father of a young girl, maybe 4 years old, visited our house and our own young kids.  We had a toy kitchen that included many plastic food toys, including a plastic roast chicken.  Playing with his daughter, the dad referred to the toy as "a chicken".  Her bemused reply to him was, "Daddy, that's not a chicken, that's chicken".
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 06, 2019, 06:28:44 PM
Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.

I know you don't want to get into semantics, but can you elaborate on the distinction here?

When you put ‘mostly’ in front of lucky (among other words), it implies there was more luck involved than other elements of winning like skill, talent, determination, etc.

It’s a pretty big distinction.

Are there Montreal fans on the TMLFans? Yes. Are their mostly Montreal fans on the TMLFans site? I’m comfortable saying that is a no.

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 06, 2019, 06:53:15 PM
Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.

I know you don't want to get into semantics, but can you elaborate on the distinction here?

When you put ‘mostly’ in front of lucky (among other words), it implies there was more luck involved than other elements of winning like skill, talent, determination, etc.

It’s a pretty big distinction.

Are there Montreal fans on the TMLFans? Yes. Are their mostly Montreal fans on the TMLFans site? I’m comfortable saying that is a no.

Okay so what is your basis for that assertion?

Because from my point of view, the Marlies have won 6 games and outshot their opponent once in those 6 games. The only game they did was when they were gifted 7 power plays and potted 4 goals. Two wins were OT wins which are just coin flips (stacked because Kaskisuo is fiyah right now).
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 06, 2019, 07:38:07 PM
Are they lucky to have won 6 straight games without a loss yet in the playoffs? Absolutely.  Is this win streak mostly based on luck? Most definitely not.

I know you don't want to get into semantics, but can you elaborate on the distinction here?

When you put ‘mostly’ in front of lucky (among other words), it implies there was more luck involved than other elements of winning like skill, talent, determination, etc.

It’s a pretty big distinction.

Are there Montreal fans on the TMLFans? Yes. Are their mostly Montreal fans on the TMLFans site? I’m comfortable saying that is a no.

Okay so what is your basis for that assertion?

Because from my point of view, the Marlies have won 6 games and outshot their opponent once in those 6 games. The only game they did was when they were gifted 7 power plays and potted 4 goals. Two wins were OT wins which are just coin flips (stacked because Kaskisuo is fiyah right now).

I really don’t think this is worth pursuing any further Herman. Neither one of us will be able to prove how much or how little luck plays in the outcome of a hockey game , playoff series or the competitiveness of a team . You could provide stats of the six games they’ve played so far in the 2019 playoffs to try and prove your point and I would say we need to look at larger sample size and would point to their regular season record and then their playoff record last year and tell you that they won the championship last season with basically the same core group but a different goaltender and surely they don’t win nearly as much if luck is the predominant element to their success.  And this is  really all about your usage of the word ‘mostly’. Let’s move on.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 06, 2019, 08:24:55 PM
Citing small size is probably not the route I’d take to argue your point about luck, which is when luck’s effect is most pronounced.

It’s also a pretty different core of actual contributors if you check last year’s roster compared to this one. All the primary weapons were secondary options last year. The regular season is very nearly the opposite of what’s happening now: the Marlies outscored their terrible goaltending.

No one is saying the Marlies aren’t skilled and aren’t working hard. If getting outshot (heavily) 5/6 games isn’t winning mostly on luck and just a pinch of it, then that’s a misread.

Edit: If you disagree, Redleaf, I’d be happy to discuss your reasons and see if I can learn from them. Telling me you don’t want to talk about it anymore means no one learns anything other than your opinion.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 06, 2019, 09:31:29 PM
Call it lucky or not, who cares? They're 6-0. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 08:16:07 PM
Marlies were down 2-0 going into the second and have quickly responded with the lead in 8 minutes. They’re playing fantastic.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 08:21:30 PM
Beautiful PP goal by Moore. I’m guessing Cleveland just gives up now.

Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 07, 2019, 08:26:05 PM
Surprising comeback . It’s like when the Marlies put it into that extra gear, they are a force to be reckoned with .

What does Keefe say to this kids during that intermission?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
I thought they were fine in the first, other than the early hiccups putting them in the hole. But the Monsters like taking penalties for some reason.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
There was a sequence towards the end that Moore nearly netted a hat trick on by out working his check and just putting keister between the guy and the puck

Edit: here!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 09:02:43 PM
Hahahaha feels a bit mean now. 5-2

Marlies have turned it on and the Monsters haven’t been able to muster much other than penalties.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 07, 2019, 09:16:40 PM
I really hope Dubas can sprinkle some of this magic on the Leafs next season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 07, 2019, 09:29:09 PM
Marchment x2
Moore x2
Carcone x2

Excellent hold of a 3 goal lead with a well executed 1-2-2 forecheck. The Marlies locked it down even though the Monsters went 6v5 for over 5 minutes.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 07, 2019, 09:29:26 PM
I really hope Dubas can sprinkle some of this magic on the Leafs next season.
Not worried about Dubas doing his job.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 07, 2019, 09:31:06 PM
Marchment x2
Moore x2
Carcone x2
I like Marchment and think he'd be a great fit for a botton 6 job.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 07, 2019, 10:45:18 PM
Ho hum another lucky sweep. ;)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 08, 2019, 12:20:11 AM
Ho hum another lucky sweep. ;)

Finally played a good game!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 08, 2019, 12:35:13 PM
Ho hum another lucky sweep. ;)

Finally played a good game!
They could win with their eyes closed. So lucky
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 10, 2019, 02:52:56 PM
Jesper Lindgren has joined the Marlies. He's fresh off a championship in Finland (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-prospects/2019/5/4/18529365/jesper-lindgren-is-a-champion-toronto-maple-leafs-draft-prospect-liiga-final-hpk-marlies). Wonder if he gets some games next round. Based off Jeff Veillette's data Duszak seemed to struggle a little.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 10, 2019, 05:06:57 PM
Jesper Lindgren has joined the Marlies. He's fresh off a championship in Finland (https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-prospects/2019/5/4/18529365/jesper-lindgren-is-a-champion-toronto-maple-leafs-draft-prospect-liiga-final-hpk-marlies). Wonder if he gets some games next round. Based off Jeff Veillette's data Duszak seemed to struggle a little.
Who knows? Let's remember this kid is straight out of college hockey so it's a big jump for him. In the game I saw him play, he coughed it up a couple of times but I liked his game. He has a good shot and is tough for a smallish player. He simply doesn't back down in front of his net. Maybe Lindgren replaces Hollowell?? Again, who knows but I'm sure he'll get a look.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 10, 2019, 05:46:07 PM
Who knows? Let's remember this kid is straight out of college hockey so it's a big jump for him. In the game I saw him play, he coughed it up a couple of times but I liked his game. He has a good shot and is tough for a smallish player. He simply doesn't back down in front of his net. Maybe Lindgren replaces Hollowell?? Again, who knows but I'm sure he'll get a look.

Yeah I'm not trying to knock the guy he's just starting his professional career so I wasn't even really expecting him to get playing time in the playoffs. But Lindgren's been playing pro for a few years now so I'd imagine he's better suited to jump in.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 10, 2019, 05:49:37 PM
Also I just realized that Lindgren's team beat Teemu Kivihalme's team in the Finnish league's championship this season. Funny coincidence, especially since the two could be defence partners with the Marlies next season. Scott Wheeler has an article in the Athletic today that noted both had monster possession numbers over there.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 10, 2019, 05:52:14 PM
Also I just realized that Lindgren's team beat Teemu Kivihalme's team in the Finnish league's championship this season. Funny coincidence, especially since the two couple be defence partners with the Marlies next season.
That is pretty cool. All I say is bring on the Swedes lol. Another Swedish d man.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 13, 2019, 09:47:33 AM
For nutman:

https://theathletic.com/966847/2019/05/13/wheeler-what-do-the-leafs-really-have-in-towering-egor-korshkov/
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 13, 2019, 09:58:32 AM
For nutman:

https://theathletic.com/966847/2019/05/13/wheeler-what-do-the-leafs-really-have-in-towering-egor-korshkov/

Uh oh... sounds like the Y is creeping back in...
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 13, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
Sounds like Egor has his work cut out for him. I guess Barb is going to be busy teaching him how to skate.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 15, 2019, 10:59:41 AM

7-0 playoff team gets their best defenceman/player back from injury.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 15, 2019, 03:59:31 PM
Any word if this will be on TSN or will it just be the home games, like last series.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 17, 2019, 11:00:19 AM

Carolina getting swept was not a good thing for the Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 17, 2019, 11:14:11 AM
Any word if this will be on TSN or will it just be the home games, like last series.

The Marlies' twitter account says it'll be streamed live on the Maple Leafs app. TSN has the Raptors game going on.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 17, 2019, 05:26:29 PM
Why are the AHL playoffs so spread out? Didn't the Marlies finish their last series like a month ago? Seems that way anyway
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 17, 2019, 05:49:26 PM
Sure seems that way. Way too long between series.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 17, 2019, 09:12:53 PM
Marlies up 2-1 with 10 to go in the 3rd. Timashov and Marchment with the goals.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: L K on May 17, 2019, 09:25:32 PM
Good win for the Marlins.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 17, 2019, 09:26:12 PM
Mueller, man. Just gutted out three icings to help seal this up.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 17, 2019, 09:28:08 PM
Big win for the Marlies.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 17, 2019, 09:32:25 PM
8th straight lucky win.

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 17, 2019, 09:39:16 PM
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Rough night for Sandin but Liljegren continues his solid playoff possession numbers.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 18, 2019, 12:06:31 PM
There was some high praise for Hollowell on the Sun report, said he was the best D man for the Marlies and saved two goals in the first period.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 18, 2019, 12:16:12 PM
There was some high praise for Hollowell on the Sun report, said he was the best D man for the Marlies and saved two goals in the first period.
By all accounts he's been very good. I only watched the 3rd period and he made some nice stops.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 18, 2019, 06:03:48 PM

Hollowell out, Lindgren in for tonight's game.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 18, 2019, 08:34:36 PM
Marlies lose 5-3 after leading 3-0 with 6:00 mins to go in the 2nd. Couple of lucky bounces off Rosen for the tying goal and one off Borgman for the winner with 1:40 to go. Add an empty netter to round out the scoring. Series tied at 1.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 19, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Looks like Lindgren was responsible for the tying goal, why tinker in the playoffs when things are working.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 19, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
Looks like Lindgren was responsible for the tying goal, why tinker in the playoffs when things are working.
He wasn't on the ice so I don't know how it was on him. Liljegren and Rosen were and it went off Rosen. Either way, the Marlies are going to play who they think are their best. It appears Lindgren is higher on the depth chart then Hollowell. While the loss is disappointing, they were winning 3-0 so it was working for 35 minutes. Couple of bad breaks and that was the difference really. Checkers never scored what would be considered a good goal.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 20, 2019, 01:00:24 PM
Sorry about that, thought I read it in a PPP article yesterday. We have 3 at home now so let's hope they can win, win, win.  The more playoff experience the better off all our prospects will be.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 20, 2019, 03:43:15 PM
Sorry about that, thought I read it in a PPP article yesterday. We have 3 at home now so let's hope they can win, win, win.  The more playoff experience the better off all our prospects will be.
Listen I had to look at the vid 3 times to make sure so no worries from me. I'll be heading down on Friday so hopefully they can put it away then! And def, the more playoff experience, the better. Apparently the Marlies have played the most playoff games for a team in the last 8 years or something like that. That's good.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 20, 2019, 08:20:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVNnGIuNEJw

Keefe’s remarks following the Marlies’ first loss this postseason.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 23, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
Carcone with a huge game tonight. 3g 1a... Marlies win 4-3 in OT to tie the series. This guy looks like he can be a player. Also looks like a good trade. Leivo for him.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: RedLeaf on May 24, 2019, 10:40:41 AM
Carcone with a huge game tonight. 3g 1a... Marlies win 4-3 in OT to tie the series. This guy looks like he can be a player. Also looks like a good trade. Leivo for him.

It certainly does . Korshkov seems to be slowly rounding into form too. This team still has a good chance to repeat . Series tied 2-2. Game 5 tonight in T.O.!!!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 24, 2019, 11:44:16 AM
Some comments from my viewing, Sandin looked very good carrying the puck, but him and Lilypad looked shaky on the D.  I think they both may need another year in the AHL sad to say.   However who really impressed was Lindgren (very poised and positioned himself defensively on each shift). Borgman was very good as well, think he would be back with the Leafs playing like that.  Rosen still not back to normal in my eyes as yet.
Marchment and Engvall can form a sound base for the 4th line, Engvall a large upgrade on the Goat.  Marchment plays like a beast and the Leafs need one out there and he can play as well.
Yes Carcone looked very good as well but still question whether he tipped in goal 2. Bracco played great.  Moore a little flat although he is trying.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 24, 2019, 01:18:31 PM
Some comments from my viewing, Sandin looked very good carrying the puck, but him and Lilypad looked shaky on the D.  I think they both may need another year in the AHL sad to say.   However who really impressed was Lindgren (very poised and positioned himself defensively on each shift). Borgman was very good as well, think he would be back with the Leafs playing like that.  Rosen still not back to normal in my eyes as yet.
Marchment and Engvall can form a sound base for the 4th line, Engvall a large upgrade on the Goat.  Marchment plays like a beast and the Leafs need one out there and he can play as well.
Yes Carcone looked very good as well but still question whether he tipped in goal 2. Bracco played great.  Moore a little flat although he is trying.
Good analysis. I do think Liljegren will get a look next year. Sandin does struggle at times but all in all, he's played unreal. Not sure he gets a chance but he isn't far off. I love that Keefe keeps playing the kids even after they make mistakes. Engvall looks very fast for a big man and Korshkov is getting better. I think there are a number of Marlies that can push for a job with the big club next year. Brooks, Moore, Marchment, Engvall, Bracco to name a few up front. Rosen, Borgman, Liljegren and outside shot, Sandin.
Let's not forget about Mikheyev who will probably be with the Leafs next season also.
Just a note... Lindgren looked great last night and before him so did Duszak and Hollowell. Marlies are deep on D. I think Dubas is right when he talked about improving from within. Our bottom 6 should look a lot different next season.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 24, 2019, 03:00:12 PM
Ya the comments on Hollowell are very very promising, Gillman spoke high praise about how he sees the game perfectly and can control things. Where is he on our depth chart?  Duzak also has a good hockey sense.  Wonder if we can get another couple of promising D at the draft?

I know Sandin has been playing well but these last two games he hasn't been his best, a small sample to be sure. He sure can carry the puck through the zone though.  Perhaps he will have to be paired with a more Defensive RHD, right now the RHD all look like puck movers.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 24, 2019, 03:57:47 PM

I know Sandin has been playing well but these last two games he hasn't been his best, a small sample to be sure. He sure can carry the puck through the zone though.  Perhaps he will have to be paired with a more Defensive RHD, right now the RHD all look like puck movers.
Agree and him struggling is also very important to his growth. He sure can carry the puck and usually makes really good passes. I'm impressed with him and look forward to watching him play tonight.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 24, 2019, 11:48:25 PM
Thought the Marlies outplayed Charlotte but ended up losing. Outshot them 41-23 and lost 4-1 with an empty netter. They gave up 2 shorties in the process also. I didn't like Hutchinson's game at all. Looked weak on a couple. Loved Borgman's game. That guy has got some skill and made a number of great plays in both ends. The kids looked pretty good on D as well despite a -4 for Sandin.  Lindgren looked fine playing with the Borg! Rosen did not play.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 25, 2019, 11:58:28 AM
Ya Rosen didn't look good after he came back. Right now it looks like Sandin needs another year or so with the Marlies. Completely agree that Borgman looked like our best D and Lindgren very poised.

Their goalie (cant remember his name) played Goal against the Leafs in Tampa bay years ago when I went to a game there.  He played well, Hutch not so much.   
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 25, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Ya Rosen didn't look good after he came back. Right now it looks like Sandin needs another year or so with the Marlies. Completely agree that Borgman looked like our best D and Lindgren very poised.

Their goalie (cant remember his name) played Goal against the Leafs in Tampa bay years ago when I went to a game there.  He played well, Hutch not so much.


Tokarski, he was the junior goalie that gave Pierre McGuire an orgasm on air. Former Hab and others
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 25, 2019, 12:40:27 PM
Ya Rosen didn't look good after he came back. Right now it looks like Sandin needs another year or so with the Marlies. Completely agree that Borgman looked like our best D and Lindgren very poised.

Their goalie (cant remember his name) played Goal against the Leafs in Tampa bay years ago when I went to a game there.  He played well, Hutch not so much.   
Agreed I love the way Sandin sees the ice and all that but he is still prone to rookie mistakes. He didn't play bad by any means, but is lacking the consistency is all. Kid has the skills. Hollowell looks so small out there but he's quick and smart. Great skater and puck mover. Most of their D does this well. Borgman was really good though and he's got some jam. Plays a tough game. Don't know what the Leafs plans are for him. There are a few guys that can seriously push for jobs next year. Engvall would be a huge upgrade over the goat in skating ability alone. Guy can fly for a big man.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 25, 2019, 01:36:24 PM
the next month and a half will prove to be hugely interesting.  What does Marner get, do either Kapi or Mango take an offer sheet?  Will Jake be thrown a line, will Kadri or Zaitev and Hainsey be gone? Will we resign ourselves to Marleau for another season?  If so will Bab's have the guts to play him on the 4th line?

What Marlies will be on the Leafs?  Will the Goat be traded to Montreal? Tune in folks, it's going to be a hellavu ride.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2019, 08:35:24 AM
Marlies get eliminated in double overtime on a controversial goal:


Tough way to go out, but Charlotte finished 1st in the league in the regular season by a pretty good margin. And getting some reinforcements from Carolina being eliminated didn't help the Marlies either of course.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 27, 2019, 08:45:14 AM
Charlotte neutralized the Marlies PP in much the same way Boston stuffed Marner.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2019, 08:47:20 AM
Charlotte neutralized the Marlies PP in much the same way Boston stuffed Marner.

Fire Keefe!
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Highlander on May 27, 2019, 08:48:55 AM
Sad but the guys got a ton of playoff experience, now we can focus on the Raptors
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 27, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
Charlotte neutralized the Marlies PP in much the same way Boston stuffed Marner.

Fire Keefe!

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Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on May 27, 2019, 09:58:57 AM
Charlotte neutralized the Marlies PP in much the same way Boston stuffed Marner.

Fire Keefe!
Troll...

The Marlies do work with an exceptional budget and resources compare to their peers so they should be good. It is possible Keefe gets a little to much praise.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2019, 10:11:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sBw17jL.png)
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Zee on May 27, 2019, 12:10:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sBw17jL.png)


Lol
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 27, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
Sheldon Keefe, post-game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzCzyoqnA4), takes responsibility for the sputtering power play.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: Guilt Trip on May 27, 2019, 02:26:52 PM
Sheldon Keefe, post-game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzCzyoqnA4), takes responsibility for the sputtering power play.
A coach taking responsibility....you listening Babs?
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on May 27, 2019, 02:51:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sBw17jL.png)
I just wanted to point out Keefe's ability as a coach has nothing to do with Babcock sucking as a coach. That fact remains the same.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2019, 03:05:11 PM
I just wanted to point out Keefe's ability as a coach has nothing to do with Babcock sucking as a coach. That fact remains the same.

You seem very angry about a light-hearted joke.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: cabber24 on May 27, 2019, 03:06:35 PM
I just wanted to point out Keefe's ability as a coach has nothing to do with Babcock sucking as a coach. That fact remains the same.

You seem very angry about a light-hearted joke.
No, I actually welcome your trolling ways and am happy to engage.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 27, 2019, 03:15:31 PM
Fire Keefe lol

edit: see, this is trolling because I know now how irrationally upset it makes you. My first post though, I don't know where you got trolling from making a joke in a direct quote to someone I frequently kid around with on these boards.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on May 27, 2019, 03:54:49 PM
I thought it was a great joke in which I could find no logical flaw.
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: herman on June 30, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
Title: Re: 2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on June 30, 2019, 12:14:15 PM
Lots of potential veteran spots are open on the Marlies now. Greening, Jooris, Mueller, LoVerde. I'd imagine we'll see some AAA players signed to replace them.