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Title: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:55:40 AM
(https://assets.detroithockey.net/dyn/l/65x65/230.png)@(https://assets.detroithockey.net/dyn/l/65x65/194.png)
  49-26-7, 105 points | 50-20-12, 112 points
Series tied 3-3

Projected Lines

Hyman-Matthews-Brown
Marleau-Plekanec-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Kapanen

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Polak

Andersen
             
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
DeBrusk-Krejci-Heinen
Nash-Nash-Backes
Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Miller
Grzelcyk-McQuaid

Rask

Scratches

Connor Carrick
Leo Komarov
Josh Leivo
Matt Martin
Dominic Moore
      
Brian Gionta
Tommy Wingels
Ryan Donato
Nick Holden

Game Notes

TOR
ēAndersen will start for the Leafs
ēJust win.

BOS
ēRask will start for the Bruins

Injuries

ēNathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
ēJoffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely
      
ēBrandon Carlo - Ankle - Out for season
ēAnders Bjork - Shoulder - Out for season

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:38:56 AM

Damn... this is a good question.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 08:40:53 AM

Damn... this is a good question.

Who wants to be trailing going into the 3rd?  The past means nothing with respect to tonight, I'll take a 4-1 lead all day long going into the 3rd.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bill_Berg on April 25, 2018, 09:12:51 AM
We already held a 4-1 lead in Boston, in the playoffs. I would rather a 3 goal lead than a 1 goal deficit everyday.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Kaberle15 on April 25, 2018, 09:16:53 AM
Tonight they will comeback and win this series.

The keys to do it is:

Shutdown Boston's big 3.
Scratch Komarov
Kapanen is due.

Go Leafs Go!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
When the Leafs win tonight it'll officially mark the end of Rene Rancourt's anthem singing career.

GO LEAFS GO
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 09:25:07 AM
When the Leafs win tonight it'll officially make the end of Rene Rancourt's anthem singing career.

GO LEAFS GO

Man, that'll just make it extra satisfying.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:03:54 AM

:o
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:07:43 AM

For the record, I do think Johnsson ends up playing, but it's still fun to freak out about until then.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: WAYNEINIONA on April 25, 2018, 11:15:54 AM

Ok, consider me officially freaked out.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 25, 2018, 11:20:10 AM
I didn't have an Irish coffee this morning to settle my nerves.

Nope.

No I did not.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 11:28:54 AM
I'm not nervous, just excited to see how it goes.  There is no downsideógame 7s are crapshoots, and I'd much rather be the Leafs going in than the Bruins trying not to blow a 3-1 series lead.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 01:20:40 PM
I'm not nervous, just excited to see how it goes.  There is no downsideógame 7s are crapshoots, and I'd much rather be the Leafs going in than the Bruins trying not to blow a 3-1 series lead.
Yup, me to. I just hope they play their best game of the year!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 01:39:11 PM
I didn't have an Irish coffee this morning to settle my nerves.

Nope.

No I did not.


I wanna see what your posts look like around 7:30.  ;D
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: nutman on April 25, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
Still on the off shift.. so all i get is radio... but Joe should be doing games on TV, so I will take him calling the game any day.

Go Leafs Go... Boston has Good clam chowder, but Tampa has great fish joints so get us there boys.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
Key to winning this game is - Have fun, everything will follow!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 02:36:18 PM
Hold me guys.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 03:13:20 PM
Hold me guys.
Only if you hold me.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 25, 2018, 03:19:28 PM
Not really feeling this game, but I also didn't feel the last 2 games.  ;)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 25, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
If the Leafs D can continue to initiate passes rather than using the boards and the forwards keep moving on, and Andersen excels again -- basically replicating the good works they all put in for Games 5 & 6 -- even with Boston having the line change advantage, the Leafs should be able to eke out the win.

No expectations but for the sake of breaking the losing-to-Boston-in the -playoffs-again 'curse', it would do well for Toronto to emerge victorious.

GO LEAFS GO!

Some pretty good observations here:

https://theathletic.com/327731/2018/04/24/bourne-five-observations-from-game-6-and-potential-adjustments-for-the-leafs-in-game-7/
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 04:33:09 PM
Oh man here we GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: LuncheonMeat on April 25, 2018, 04:54:39 PM
If the Leafs D can continue to initiate passes rather than using the boards and the forwards keep moving on, and Andersen excels again -- basically replicating the good works they all put in for Games 5 & 6 -- even with Boston having the line change advantage, the Leafs should be able to eke out the win.

No expectations but for the sake of breaking the losing-to-Boston-in the -playoffs-again 'curse', it would do well for Toronto to emerge victorious.

GO LEAFS GO!

Some pretty good observations here:

https://theathletic.com/327731/2018/04/24/bourne-five-observations-from-game-6-and-potential-adjustments-for-the-leafs-in-game-7/

Assuming you consider a paywall good observations.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 25, 2018, 05:02:06 PM
If the Leafs D can continue to initiate passes rather than using the boards and the forwards keep moving on, and Andersen excels again -- basically replicating the good works they all put in for Games 5 & 6 -- even with Boston having the line change advantage, the Leafs should be able to eke out the win.

No expectations but for the sake of breaking the losing-to-Boston-in the -playoffs-again 'curse', it would do well for Toronto to emerge victorious.

GO LEAFS GO!

Some pretty good observations here:

https://theathletic.com/327731/2018/04/24/bourne-five-observations-from-game-6-and-potential-adjustments-for-the-leafs-in-game-7/

Assuming you consider a paywall good observations.


For those who have access to it.  :)

Besides, it's nothing other than what we already know from having seen the Leaf losses and wins so far.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Mot the Barber on April 25, 2018, 05:14:42 PM
Enjoy the ride Leafs fans.  Should be a wild one. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Arn on April 25, 2018, 05:41:24 PM
Just win.

I don't even care how.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
If the Leafs D can continue to initiate passes rather than using the boards and the forwards keep moving on, and Andersen excels again -- basically replicating the good works they all put in for Games 5 & 6 -- even with Boston having the line change advantage, the Leafs should be able to eke out the win.

No expectations but for the sake of breaking the losing-to-Boston-in the -playoffs-again 'curse', it would do well for Toronto to emerge victorious.

GO LEAFS GO!

Some pretty good observations here:

https://theathletic.com/327731/2018/04/24/bourne-five-observations-from-game-6-and-potential-adjustments-for-the-leafs-in-game-7/

Assuming you consider a paywall good observations.


For those who have access to it.  :)

Besides, it's nothing other than what we already know from having seen the Leaf losses and wins so far.


Probably just stuff re-worded from this board anyhow  8)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 06:37:47 PM
Win all the games. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 07:06:59 PM
Tick tick... ;)  Shaky hand on bottle day.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 07:09:30 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/beavisandbutthead/images/6/61/No_Laughing_12.png/revision/latest?cb=20110829161942)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 07:15:45 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/beavisandbutthead/images/6/61/No_Laughing_12.png/revision/latest?cb=20110829161942)


Fully prepared ;)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 25, 2018, 07:32:33 PM
Me nervous like me coaching or me playing!  Unreal!   :-\
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
No Leo... Woo hoo
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 07:34:48 PM
i really don't know what to do...

I can't not watch and I can't watch...


Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 25, 2018, 07:35:42 PM
#TorontoStrong!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:37:12 PM
i really don't know what to do...

I can't not watch and I can't watch...



Watch and enjoy the game. Win or lose it doesn't get better then game 7
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:39:15 PM
Except for Rene... He's horrible lol
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 07:40:02 PM
I feel a strong sense of calm about this game. I don't know if that is a good thing or not, but I think the Leafs win it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 07:40:38 PM
i really don't know what to do...

I can't not watch and I can't watch...



Watch and enjoy the game. Win or lose it doesn't get better then game 7
Good advice, enjoy the meaningful game. We've had so many that meant nothing over the past few years.

Although, one of the outcomes is clearly better than the other.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 07:40:56 PM
I feel a strong sense of calm about this game. I don't know if that is a good thing or not, but I think the Leafs win it.

I'm not exactly calm, but I'm certainly not uptight.  I'm going with you on the win prediction.  Why the hell not!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:42:56 PM
Oh wow these refs ref.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:45:58 PM
Boom!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
DADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
Yes guy
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 07:46:34 PM
Hey, Leafs scored. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:46:51 PM
Good start.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 07:46:53 PM
We rule man


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: sickbeast on April 25, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
Amazing start for the Leafs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
YESSSSSSS
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
I love that Johnsson celebrates the same (to varying degrees) regardless of who scores.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
Best possible start! Keep it going!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:48:00 PM
Thank you Marleau
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:48:57 PM
Damnit.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:49:02 PM
Kill it off
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
Kapanen shortie time
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:50:18 PM
Wowowowow that was close.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:50:25 PM
Andy with the butt cam
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:50:45 PM
Stupid Hyman.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:50:55 PM
Man it looked like a Bruin had a wide open net to shoot at and he passed.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:51:05 PM
Craptastic
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:51:06 PM
Damnit.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 07:51:23 PM
Ugh, didn't get it out.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 07:51:23 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
Stupid Hyman.

Iíd call that a good read and stop rather than a bad clear. He really hammered it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 07:51:46 PM
Atrocious penalty kill attempt.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:52:16 PM
Polak doesn't take his guy in front of the net.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 07:52:39 PM
Stupid Hyman.

Iíd call that a good read and stop rather than a bad clear. He really hammered it.

I think the problem there was he didn't get out to the pointman to block the shot.  He just stood there...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 07:53:38 PM
We have to be the worst team in the league a team clearing the puck on a wide open opportunity.  Hyman could have easily cleared it. And he whiffed.  Exactly what hainsey does every Pk.  And Polak, weak as always.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:54:00 PM
Stupid Hyman.

Iíd call that a good read and stop rather than a bad clear. He really hammered it.

I think the problem there was he didn't get out to the pointman to block the shot.  He just stood there...

If you think he couldíve made 25í in 1 second, then yeah.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
Again right there.  The guys just wonít clear the zone on easy plays. Just make the simple plays. Letís go.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:54:52 PM
Stupid Hyman.

Iíd call that a good read and stop rather than a bad clear. He really hammered it.

I think the problem there was he didn't get out to the pointman to block the shot.  He just stood there...
On both accounts.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:55:18 PM
Woo hoo
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:55:48 PM
Weird organ version of Rush
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:55:52 PM
Atrocious penalty kill attempt.

I thought they looked really good at forcing sub optimal routes and plays at the blueline instead of sagging deep.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 07:56:00 PM
DAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 07:56:03 PM
Daddy Paddy!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 25, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
Marleau is ON FIRE!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 07:56:21 PM
Papa Smurf is on fiyah
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 07:56:34 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
We rule man


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
Marleau.... Clutch.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on April 25, 2018, 07:56:40 PM
Polak doesn't take his guy in front of the net.

And how many times has that been?  And what does it take too make stubborn Babcock to ever react?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 07:56:50 PM
Stupid Hyman.

Iíd call that a good read and stop rather than a bad clear. He really hammered it.

I think the problem there was he didn't get out to the pointman to block the shot.  He just stood there...

If you think he couldíve made 25í in 1 second, then yeah.

Exaggerate much?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 07:56:58 PM
Polak doesn't take his guy in front of the net.

Thatís completely non existent with this team and I hate repeating myself but there were opportunities there to hit a Bruin and stop maybe an entry and they donít. Irks me to no end.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
Interesting line. Matthews with Marner and Marleau... 3M.haha
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 07:57:12 PM
MARLEAU!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 07:57:47 PM
Atrocious penalty kill attempt.

I thought they looked really good at forcing sub optimal routes and plays at the blueline instead of sagging deep.

They had like 3 clear, dangerous attempts at the net.  It was bad and they should feel bad.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
We stink dudes


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Could you take a break from this particular post this evening...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 07:59:44 PM
Stupid Gardiner
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 08:00:07 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
So disorganized
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:00:40 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:00:54 PM
Cool. We get bad Andersen tonight.  What a bad goal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Good lord, this could be a wild one.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Atrocious penalty kill attempt.

I thought they looked really good at forcing sub optimal routes and plays at the blueline instead of sagging deep.

They had like 3 clear, dangerous attempts at the net.  It was bad and they should feel bad.

Okay.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:01:42 PM
I guess a Marleau hat trick is imminent.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Cool. We get bad Andersen tonight.  What a bad goal.

That wasn't great, but the first goal was a beauty.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:02:29 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.

Yeah.  That was bad, lazy hockey. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.

1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:03:43 PM
Cool. We get bad Andersen tonight.  What a bad goal.

That wasn't great, but the first goal was a beauty.

Game 7. That save has to be made. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:04:08 PM
I donít know why it takes some people so long to realize that Ďbadí plays are sometimes generated by really good opposing plays.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.

1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.

Really. Holy. To your first point it was like 3 dumb mistakes there not just one.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:04:57 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.

1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.

I don't hate the original giveaway, he didn't really have anybody to pass to and the Leafs have been using the boards to clear the zone for the past few games. Most of the other defencemen make the same play and nobody says a thing. He did get beat along the boards after, which I've always said is his biggest weakness. After that, well 4 other guys were standing around not doing anything too.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:05:26 PM
He gave the puck away to start it all. Then he lost it a second time.. Please that's all on Gardiner.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:05:43 PM
Cool. We get bad Andersen tonight.  What a bad goal.

That wasn't great, but the first goal was a beauty.

Game 7. That save has to be made.

Maybe so, but the same could said for Rask on Marleau's 2nd.  Anyway, let's see how he reacts.  It'll be key.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:06:32 PM
Uh oh
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Bozak blocked Andersen's view and failed to block the shot. You'd like Andersen to make that save but I don't think he ever really saw it. Bozak should have blocked it.

Gardiner's play on that shift was atrocious.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:07:23 PM
Shoulda hit Marchand.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:07:26 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:07:31 PM
Fortunately a knucklepuck. Wouldíve rather it hit Marchand.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Joe S. on April 25, 2018, 08:07:46 PM
Marchand is the only player I've ever seen get mad at offside calls.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:07:57 PM
Bozak blocked Andersen's view and failed to block the shot. You'd like Andersen to make that save but I don't think he ever really saw it. Bozak should have blocked it.

Gardiner's play on that shift was atrocious.
Agreed
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
He gave the puck away to start it all. Then he lost it a second time.. Please that's all on Gardiner.

When you have 0 support, there's not a whole lot you can do but send it out of the zone as far from trouble as you can.

What do you expect from him?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
I donít know why it takes some people so long to realize that Ďbadí plays are sometimes generated by really good opposing plays.

Ya I agree with you there but why throw the puck away to the opposition. He could of easily skated behind the net rather than just throwing it away. Then 2 more blunders when the puck was in the Leaf end.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:08:52 PM
Another PP. Let's go!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
I donít know why it takes some people so long to realize that Ďbadí plays are sometimes generated by really good opposing plays.

Ya I agree with you there but why throw the puck away to the opposition. He could of easily skated behind the net rather than just throwing it away. Then 2 more blunders when the puck was in the Leaf end.

I think CtB and AvroArrow explained it well. Itís not safe to skate on your own with two forecheckers on top of you.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: harps64 on April 25, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.



1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.

It was soft and lazy on his part...get over it. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:12:11 PM
Matthews having a beauty shift.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:13:02 PM
Hainsey is so weak.  Dominating shift by the leafs.  A tired bruins line comes back and Hainsey looks like a pylon. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:13:14 PM
We looked dangerous there for a bit. More like that please.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:13:21 PM
Shoulda hit Marchand.

Wouldnít of hurt my feelings.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:13:27 PM
What a shift by Matthews.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
What a shift by Matthews.

If he plays like that all game I can't see us losing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.



1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.

It was soft and lazy on his part...get over it.

What's with the attitude?
There's nothing to get over.  I said nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:14:29 PM
Anyone else watching on Apple TV ?  I think Iím about 30 seconds behind.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
Anyone else watching on Apple TV ?  I think Iím about 30 seconds behind.

Iím on sling.  Always 30 secs behind.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:15:49 PM
For all you Gardiner lovers.



1. He didn't do anything specifically bad there.
2. His team gave him no support.
3. One mediocre play doesn't make him bad.
4. He's good WAY more than he's bad.

It was soft and lazy on his part...get over it.

What's with the attitude?
There's nothing to get over.  I said nothing wrong.

Some people are only here in the thread to complain, as is their right.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:17:29 PM
Iím sad Marleauís fire stick is broken.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:18:41 PM
Brown is a difference maker so far.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 08:20:09 PM
We stink dudes.


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:20:43 PM
I could see it coming....
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:20:56 PM
Dang bank pass and weak JvR.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:21:20 PM
I could see it coming....

I was hoping they could survive to intermission, but alas...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 08:21:52 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
That hurts.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:22:43 PM
Hell of a pass.

Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:22:45 PM
Well, game's nowhere close to being over.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:22:55 PM
Andersen couldnít have been further out of place.  3 goals against before the 1st intermission.  Not good enough.  Hainsey on the ice...again. 

The leafs have a really good offensive team.  But an extremely inconsistent goalie and really bad defense.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 08:23:08 PM
Man that's some sustained pressure by Boston right there. What a crazy game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:23:10 PM
I hate Marchand but you have to respect his determination in the final seconds there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 25, 2018, 08:23:47 PM
I could put together a three hour compilation of Hainsey looking up at the rafters after being on for a goal against. Getting pretty sick and tired of it actually.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:24:00 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:24:05 PM
Hell of a pass.

Freddie has to read that.  He way over committed. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:24:14 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.

LOL. Frustrating. Good start had our chances and definitely donít deserve to be down.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:25:02 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.

I echo this.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:25:10 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.

Yeah, I have to agree, lc9 I think you are being overly hard on him.  Granted, 2nd goal against was not a good one to give.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:25:26 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.

Anyone could see it coming a mile away.  Too often people on this board find themselves in a position where Andersen gives up 3 goals in a period and are unwilling to offer any criticism of him. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 25, 2018, 08:25:47 PM
Andersen certainly hasnít been great so far.  Second goal weak and there he really overplayed the point shot.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Hell of a pass.

Freddie has to read that.  He way over committed. 
Freddie has to play the shot. The D man and others have to cover their guys
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
If I'm Babcock I'd think about double-shifting Matthews.  He's on his game tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:26:43 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.

Anyone could see it coming a mile away.  Too often people on this board find themselves in a position where Andersen gives up 3 goals in a period and are unwilling to offer any criticism of him. 
Gardiner and Plekanec didn't
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:27:38 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible

I mean, he was right where he should have been. Bergeron was Plekanec's guy, that was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Oracle on April 25, 2018, 08:27:58 PM
I could put together a three hour compilation of Hainsey looking up at the rafters after being on for a goal against. Getting pretty sick and tired of it actually.

Lol, I've developed a hatred for the number "2".
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 08:28:22 PM
Lol complaining about Andersen being out of position on a bank pass off the back boards.

Anyone could see it coming a mile away.  Too often people on this board find themselves in a position where Andersen gives up 3 goals in a period and are unwilling to offer any criticism of him.

And, if he plays it as a pass, he leaves the short side wide open. It's a no win scenario for him when he teammates don't take their guys out of the play effectively.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
And if Reilly is done so are we. Gardiner has been horrible
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:30:05 PM
You also have to realize the overhead view gives us a lot more context to plays unfolding than what Andersen (or any goalie) sees.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 08:30:24 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible

Well yeah he got caught on the ice for 2 minutes because he can't be bothered to skate to a puck. I mean he had it and he just let Nash take it from him because he won't move his legs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
If I'm Babcock I'd think about double-shifting Matthews.  He's on his game tonight.

The Bozak line needs to move toward the end of the bench.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:30:47 PM
And if Reilly is done so are we. Gardiner has been horrible

Rielly is fine. Cosmetic repairs. Gardinerís fine, he just needs people to give him options.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible

Well yeah he got caught on the ice for 2 minutes because he can't be bothered to skate to a puck. I mean he had it and he just let Nash take it from him because he won't move his legs.

Aside from the PPs Gardiner hasn't had a shift for over the minute tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 08:34:32 PM
Rielly is fine. Cosmetic repairs. Gardinerís fine, he just needs people to give him options.

Gardiner also seems to be getting a number of shifts with Polak - and, every defenceman looks bad when their partner is Polak.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 08:36:20 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible

Well yeah he got caught on the ice for 2 minutes because he can't be bothered to skate to a puck. I mean he had it and he just let Nash take it from him because he won't move his legs.

Aside from the PPs Gardiner hasn't had a shift for over the minute tonight.

If the hyperbole on his shift time is the only thing you're going to jump on, then I consider my point made.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
That whole thing started with Gardiner being lazy.
And on that goal Gardiner is nowhere near the net. He's by the circle. His effort getting to the house is terrible

Well yeah he got caught on the ice for 2 minutes because he can't be bothered to skate to a puck. I mean he had it and he just let Nash take it from him because he won't move his legs.
And he'll always avoid the hit and let the Bruins get the puck first. That's 2 goals on him. He's not a good D man.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:38:03 PM
Rielly is fine. Cosmetic repairs. Gardinerís fine, he just needs people to give him options.

Gardiner also seems to be getting a number of shifts with Polak - and, every defenceman looks bad when their partner is Polak.

Some of it is also the teamís confidence in Gardiner, which is warranted. They believe when he gets the puck he can make something happen (90% of the time he does) even under pressure, so theyíre already wheeling up. When the forecheckers make a good move, Gardiner gets blamed.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:38:28 PM
Turning from our own shortcomings, I'd say Rask is vulnerable too.  Keep the tempo up and the pressure on.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:40:24 PM
Turning from our own shortcomings, I'd say Rask is vulnerable too.  Keep the tempo up and the pressure on.

Ya I agree. We played well. First goal was unfortunate with the delay of game, second letís not go there and 3rd was lucky. Like I said earlier we shouldnít be trailing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: gunnar36 on April 25, 2018, 08:40:43 PM
I could see it coming....

I was hoping they could survive to intermission, but alas...

Yeah when both JVR and Kapanen combined could not muscle the puck past Miller at blue line,  I figured it would come back to bite us.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: harps64 on April 25, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Turning from our own shortcomings, I'd say Rask is vulnerable too.  Keep the tempo up and the pressure on.
Definitely, both keepers look vulnerable and defences look tired. Lots of goals left in this one.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 08:42:19 PM
Morgan Rielly. What a beast.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:42:48 PM
That's 3 bad passes in a row for Gardiner to start the 2nd. Get your head into the game
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
Gardiner has to stop giving the puck directly to the bruins.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:43:42 PM
Really good read by Hainsey on that set play to Pastrnak.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:43:48 PM
Yes Dermott
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
We rule man
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 25, 2018, 08:44:19 PM
Dermot scores!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Dermott with the laser

Nylander out fights his buddy to retain possession. Polak with a point!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:44:29 PM
DERRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: puckinthehead on April 25, 2018, 08:44:35 PM
If I'm Babcock I'd think about double-shifting Matthews.  He's on his game tonight.

I like that idea, he makes Boston look tired when his line is on.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:44:42 PM
This is nuts.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:44:59 PM
WHAT A SHOT!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
"Nice shot Dermy. Now hit the showers."
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
I hope that helps build his confidence back up.  We need him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
Quit icing the damn thing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 25, 2018, 08:46:34 PM
Zero to hero in matter of seconds, almost gives up a breakaway just to get it back and score.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
Zero to hero in matter of seconds, almost gives up a breakaway just to get it back and score.

That was Pastrnak with the block, and he was trapped late on his shift already, so we were okay there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Rask 3 goals on 11 shots

Freddy 3 goals on 15 shots

We have the advantage!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:48:57 PM
Matthews with the giveaway. Trade him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:49:37 PM
Plekanec with the reaction shot of the year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:49:46 PM
I donít like that call
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:49:56 PM
Cheap call
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 25, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
Can't take dumb penalty's
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:50:21 PM
I mean that's a penalty but they've let that go 4825* times in this series.

*hyperbole
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 08:50:52 PM
We rule man!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:50:59 PM
Hainsey with a beautiful aggressive gap up to turnover the play. Twice.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:51:03 PM
I mean that's a penalty but they've let that go 4825* times in this series.

*hyperbole

Especially in a game 7 thatís tied...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 25, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
WOOHOOO!!!! A Shorty!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:51:30 PM
Called it!

Icing on the cake is Marchand getting wrecked.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:51:36 PM
Oh kappy!!!  What patience!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
HOLY ****, he was due!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
KAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 25, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
Kapanen, you beauty!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
Kaps finally! What a save by Freddie
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:52:21 PM
That was the greatest goal of all time.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 08:52:42 PM
That was freaking amazing!!!  WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
MY GODDDD!!!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
I wonder why Brown doesnít just hammer a slap shot when heís in on the shorthand. Good chance one of their D or F4 takes a stinger blocking it, or they spend time finding the bounce out.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 08:54:41 PM
Take that Marchand you fukín as***le.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 08:54:50 PM
What a goal by Kapanen! Can't think of anyone who deserved that more.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
K squared was certainly due.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 08:55:09 PM
That was one of the best goals I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:55:13 PM
I thought the ref was calling a penalty. I just about lost my s.......
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Omallley on April 25, 2018, 08:56:11 PM
That was the greatest goal of all time.

^^^^

This.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
I wonder why Brown doesnít just hammer a slap shot when heís in on the shorthand. Good chance one of their D or F4 takes a stinger blocking it, or they spend time finding the bounce out.
I think it's the fear of mixing the net and then getting caught. Take it to the safe area and try to kill the clock.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 08:56:32 PM

When Kappy hit the blueline and didn't really have any separation I though "damn, that coulda been a nice break". Then that happened.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:56:37 PM
Cool thing about letting in 3 in the first: 0 references to 4-1 in the third.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
They canít show that replay enough.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Joe S. on April 25, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
(https://m.popkey.co/206ecb/AlZOg.gif)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 08:58:32 PM
Gardiner please wake up
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 08:58:40 PM
Cool thing about letting in 3 in the first: 0 references to 4-1 in the third.
Iíll chance a 3 goal lead in third.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 08:59:55 PM
I wonder why Brown doesnít just hammer a slap shot when heís in on the shorthand. Good chance one of their D or F4 takes a stinger blocking it, or they spend time finding the bounce out.
I think it's the fear of mixing the net and then getting caught. Take it to the safe area and try to kill the clock.

Probably. Usually the PP players arenít your good blockers, so if you donít have a clear lane, skating it deep kills good time, but youíre not likely to hold it or do anything dangerous with it and youíre still caught. So why not rip it and maybe something weird happens?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:00:14 PM

More angles? More angles:

Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:01:02 PM
Just a reminder that the Kapanen goal doesnít happen without Hainsey stuffing their earlier, fresh forays on the PP.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bullfrog on April 25, 2018, 09:01:41 PM
HOLY F'N KAPANENNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(i'm a few minutes behind)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:01:59 PM
How did McQuaid injure himself diving there?

Oh, like a Beyblade.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:02:01 PM
Wonder what Jack Edwards thinks of the ref blowing that play dead when the Leafs had the puck in the offensive zone?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
Just a reminder that the Kapanen goal doesnít happen without Hainsey stuffing their earlier, fresh forays on the PP.

Technically it doesn't happen without Plekanec taking a penalty.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:02:35 PM
Iím guessing clavical.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
Wonder what Jack Edwards thinks of the ref blowing that play dead when the Leafs had the puck in the offensive zone?

I donít see any bone sticking out. And he appears to be conscious.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:03:06 PM
Just a reminder that the Kapanen goal doesnít happen without Hainsey stuffing their earlier, fresh forays on the PP.

Technically it doesn't happen without Plekanec taking a penalty.
The Butterfly Effect
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:03:19 PM
Just a reminder that the Kapanen goal doesnít happen without Hainsey stuffing their earlier, fresh forays on the PP.

Technically it doesn't happen without Plekanec taking a penalty.

Thanks be to the old folk tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
How did McQuaid injure himself diving there?

Oh, like a Beyblade.
The boards don't give
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
Injury aside, that should have been a penalty shot for Hyman. McQuaid missed the puck entirely.

Or I mean at least a penalty.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 25, 2018, 09:03:43 PM
He didnít get puck and stopped the scoring chance which equals penalty.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: harps64 on April 25, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Chara looking tired tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
Hyman didnít fall, I guess, and his hands werenít hooked.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
A lot of weird bounces off the glass in this arena.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
And McQuaid's back, must have been a super serious injury.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:07:04 PM
No matter what happens here on in, we're giving them all they can handle.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:07:19 PM
Heart stopper
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
A lot of weird bounces off the glass in this arena.

The stantions stand slightly proud of the glass.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:07:42 PM
C'mon Kadri. Get the puck out
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 09:08:03 PM
Wonder what Jack Edwards thinks of the ref blowing that play dead when the Leafs had the puck in the offensive zone?

I donít see any bone sticking out. And he appears to be conscious.

I'd love to hear what that turd said about this
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:08:40 PM
I hate to say this but Boston's effort level is not being matched. They just never stop skating. The Leafs look like a peewee team with the way they can't string 2 passes together under the pressure.

I hesitate to say Boston wants it more, but they sure look like they do.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:08:50 PM
No matter what happens here on in, we're giving them all they can handle.

They lean heavily on their top line and top pair, minutes-wise. If we can hold them off and attack with depth, their tiredness will catch up with them.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:10:00 PM
Andersen looks better so far this period. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:10:31 PM
A lot of weird bounces off the glass in this arena.

The stantions stand slightly proud of the glass.

Yeah you can hear the puck clang off them.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
No matter what happens here on in, we're giving them all they can handle.

They lean heavily on their top line and top pair, minutes-wise. If we can hold them off and attack with depth, their tiredness will catch up with them.
So we can Floyd Mayweather them to death?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:10:53 PM
Andersen looks better so far this period. 

Lou must have patted him on the back during intermission.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 09:11:05 PM
I had chowda when I was in Boston last week.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
Wow hair guy got a smile and laugh outta Babcock.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 09:11:53 PM
Wow hair guy got a smile and laugh outta Babcock.

*Rick Astley
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:12:22 PM
Hey Leafs, when will yíall try a different breakout route thatís not the boards?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:12:47 PM
We either ice it or give it away in our end. Canít keep doing it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:13:40 PM
Serious? Icing on that play?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:14:08 PM
STOP. ICING. THE. PUCK.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 09:15:19 PM
Too much icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
STOP. ICING. THE. PUCK.

Seriously, WTF...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
No matter what happens here on in, we're giving them all they can handle.

They lean heavily on their top line and top pair, minutes-wise. If we can hold them off and attack with depth, their tiredness will catch up with them.
So we can Floyd Mayweather them to death?

How has Bergeronís line looked since game 2?

Kadriís pretty fresh. Plekanec basically didnít start playing until game 3. Matthews has -20 games on his seasonís tally, and none of our forwards get more than 20 min the large majority of the time.

We can start stacking the deck.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:15:42 PM
They get the puck and panic. I
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:16:09 PM
We gonna do anything but ice the puck?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:16:31 PM
This is bad. This is really bad.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:16:49 PM
Finally....
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:17:29 PM
Polak is truly awful at outletting the puck.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:18:30 PM
That was close
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:18:44 PM
Iím sure Boston fans are griping about how lazy Gryzelyck was on that sequence.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:19:02 PM
A Catalyst?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
I am all for ornery-Hyman.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:19:24 PM
Polak is truly awful at outletting the puck.
Usually he just dumps it. Nice hit to and good shift by the Matthews line.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:19:31 PM
Matthews looks so good tonight.  Also, is it just me or does Hyman always do a spin o Rama and pass it to the other team?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:19:48 PM
Polak is truly awful at outletting the puck.
Usually he just dumps it. Nice hit tho and good shift by the Matthews line.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:20:21 PM
Matthews looks so good tonight.  Also, is it just me or does Hyman always do a spin o Rama and pass it to the other team?

Sometimes he doesnít do the spin..
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 09:20:29 PM
And McQuaid's back, must have been a super serious injury.

They used that spray they use in the soccer games.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:20:59 PM
Thatís a strong backcheck by Willy.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:21:18 PM
Nice stick-block by Zaitsev there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
Alright. 20 minutes left. Refs ain't calling crap anymore.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 09:23:17 PM
What a game...whew!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:23:20 PM
Great period.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:23:25 PM
20 minutes to go! Crazy game. Hope we can get a few more!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:23:54 PM
Well we got the lead going into the 3rd. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:24:21 PM
Alright. 20 minutes left. Refs ain't calling crap anymore.
After watching Freddie get one in the head, I agree. Let em play
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:24:59 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 09:27:22 PM
Kapanen makes me horny.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:27:41 PM
You can't ask for much more.  Came back in the 2nd and took the lead instead of collapsing.  This is a good showing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:29:57 PM
You can't ask for much more.  Came back in the 2nd and took the lead instead of collapsing.  This is a good showing.

All I wanted was a good game 7. Win the 3rd period and we have the series.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
Are you Gardiner lovers watching the 2nd intermission. Hrudey showing you exactly what we were talking about. Was there 2 Bruins hard on him there. Wow. Wake up guys. He's horrendous in his own end and making decisions. Great offensively, good outlet passer, and good on the PP but other than that he makes peewee mistakes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 09:33:31 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
Save me Jebus!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:33:44 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
That would be fine with me but I won't complain if the Leafs score 4 more!
Kaps is the youngest player in NHL history to score shorthanded in a game 7 and the last Leaf to do it was Keon. Nice. Bye bye JVR. Johnsson and Kaps are here to stay me thinks
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
I've thought about it... I'm going offline for the 3rd. See you on the other side.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:35:58 PM
Are you Gardiner lovers watching the 2nd intermission. Hrudey showing you exactly what we were talking about. Was there 2 Bruins hard on him there. Wow. Wake up guys. He's horrendous in his own end and making decisions. Great offensively, good outlet passer, and good on the PP but other than that he makes peewee mistakes.
We used to call it, million dollar talent, 10 cent brain. Agree except he doesn't always make good outlet passes. He's too soft on the puck.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Jeremiad on April 25, 2018, 09:36:22 PM
As we head into the 3rd, I just want to thank you all for being here. I don't always comment, but I enjoy reading what you post. It has been a good 5 years since that debacle moment and I'm hoping for the best in the next 20 minutes. That's all.

GO LEAFS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:37:12 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
That would be fine with me but I won't complain if the Leafs score 4 more!
Kaps is the youngest player in NHL history to score shorthanded in a game 7 and the last Leaf to do it was Keon. Nice. Bye bye JVR. Johnsson and Kaps are here to stay me thinks

Been saying that for a year plus with Kappy anyway. JVR helped us get here with his 30+ goals but I wish he would have been traded. At least we would have gotten something for him some much needed defensive help. See what happens in the off season. Very least they will rid of a new contract for him in the 6 million range plus the years which I wouldn't do.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: harps64 on April 25, 2018, 09:37:52 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
That would be fine with me but I won't complain if the Leafs score 4 more!
Kaps is the youngest player in NHL history to score shorthanded in a game 7 and the last Leaf to do it was Keon. Nice. Bye bye JVR. Johnsson and Kaps are here to stay me thinks

Pfft...Kappy has nothing on Komarov.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:38:19 PM
Hope they play their best period of the year... Just like game 6 boys.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:39:08 PM

Jesus, if you're listening, I'll give anything for the Kappy goal to stand as the game-winner.
That would be fine with me but I won't complain if the Leafs score 4 more!
Kaps is the youngest player in NHL history to score shorthanded in a game 7 and the last Leaf to do it was Keon. Nice. Bye bye JVR. Johnsson and Kaps are here to stay me thinks

Pfft...Kappy has nothing on Komarov.
Hahaha I know..
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:39:25 PM
As we head into the 3rd, I just want to thank you all for being here. I don't always comment, but I enjoy reading what you post. It has been a good 5 years since that debacle moment and I'm hoping for the best in the next 20 minutes. That's all.

GO LEAFS!!!!!!!

Hey we all have our opinions may disagree with each other at times but we are all here for the same reason. Because we love this team plain and simple.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:42:25 PM
As we head into the 3rd, I just want to thank you all for being here. I don't always comment, but I enjoy reading what you post. It has been a good 5 years since that debacle moment and I'm hoping for the best in the next 20 minutes. That's all.

GO LEAFS!!!!!!!

Hey we all have our opinions may disagree with each other at times but we are all here for the same reason. Because we love this team plain and simple.
Win or lose to. Go Leafs Go
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 09:42:37 PM
Game 7, period 3...

GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 09:44:13 PM
This is going to be the longest 20 minute period of hockey in the history of the entire universe.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:45:30 PM
Not sure how thatís not two penalties for them.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 09:45:42 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 25, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
How's the nerves guy's? LOL Go Leafs!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
So why was the faceoff in our end?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:46:17 PM
Here we go....
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
It was too easy a shot. He canít stop those.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:47:39 PM
Freddie...what an Fín joke.  Game 7, 3rd period lead and he canít save a soft shot from the point.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:47:44 PM
Marchand never getting called on his schtick unless heís actively trying to kill someone baffles me.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
Yeah....that's not gonna do, Freddie...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
Freddie has to be the most inconsistent goalie in the NHL. Makes all the hard saves, none of the easy ones. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:51:25 PM
Yeah....that's not gonna do, Freddie...

Sure won't.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:51:36 PM
Why are we sitting back
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:51:52 PM
Marleau with the hat trick and winner... Iím calling it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:52:08 PM
Itís 4-4 why we playing it like a PK?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
Bruins haven't scored a nice goal all night. All crap and I'm not blaming Freddie they've just been horseshit.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
This is ridiculous thus far.  Move forward!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
The Leafs are rattled. Big time. This is not looking good.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bullfrog on April 25, 2018, 09:53:51 PM
Oh my, Andersen, that should not have been a goal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 25, 2018, 09:53:53 PM
Matthews.  Youíre up.


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:54:00 PM
Terrible on all accounts.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 09:54:08 PM
What a move by DeBrusk. Bad pivot by Gardiner.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
Jake Gardiner is a joke.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 09:54:26 PM
Freddy is letting us down...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 09:54:47 PM
Andersen garbage in game 7
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:54:56 PM
They're not rattled what have the Bruins done this period. Weak goals and Jake gets beat.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
Seriously.  Gardiner and Anderson are just fín brutal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 25, 2018, 09:55:33 PM
Jeeze Freddie, why?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
Seriously.  Gardiner and Anderson are just fín brutal.
Absolutely... Terrible game for both
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
Andersen can't stop a beach ball. Leafs can't move their legs. Boston is bringing it.

The better team won. It was a good season.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:57:16 PM
Oh boy.

Not great by Gardiner or Freddie.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 25, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Seriously.  Gardiner and Anderson are just fín brutal.

Nope that was fully on Anderson. Bad angle shot straight along the ice
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 25, 2018, 09:58:21 PM
Actually nobodyís up.  Same ol garbage as always.


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Downtown on April 25, 2018, 09:58:31 PM
Andersen can't stop a beach ball. Leafs can't move their legs. Boston is bringing it.

The better team won. It was a good season.
Not over yet!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 09:58:50 PM
Seriously.  Gardiner and Anderson are just fín brutal.
Absolutely... Terrible game for both

I would have benched him early in the second. Rather give Dermott the experience. At least it would be a rookie making some mistakes that he would learn from. Not a 5+ year vet whoís been making these same bonehead plays his whole career.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bullfrog on April 25, 2018, 09:58:54 PM
I want to see Kadri-Mathews-Marner for the next 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 09:59:09 PM
It's not over yet, folks.  Rask is shaky too.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 25, 2018, 09:59:17 PM
Somebody should tell first overall pick Matthews that itís game 7.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 10:00:16 PM
Andersen can't stop a beach ball. Leafs can't move their legs. Boston is bringing it.

The better team won. It was a good season.
Not over yet!

It is for me. I start work at 4 am
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 10:00:36 PM
Almost 10 minutes without a shot on net.... Christ.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 10:01:15 PM
Could this be Willy's last game as a Leaf? Because we need an actual defenceman and nothing other than a Willy is getting a good or great one...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:01:51 PM
Somebody should tell first overall pick Matthews that itís game 7.
Yeah it's his fault
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
You know, this whole "let them play" bull#$#% from the refs is a blatant advantage for the bruins...  Its easy to shutdown Toronto's speed when you're allowed to interfere, hook and hold.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 10:02:24 PM
Please let the young legs work to our advantage
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:03:15 PM
Could this be Willy's last game as a Leaf? Because we need an actual defenceman and nothing other than a Willy is getting a good or great one...
Not a chance. I don't see it happening.
Fun note. Jake - 3..Polak +3
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
JVR is so slow
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
Could this be Willy's last game as a Leaf? Because we need an actual defenceman and nothing other than a Willy is getting a good or great one...

He's battled at times but shy's away from the corners and rough stuff. Like I posted earlier they should have traded JVR to get some help. Nylander obviously going to get you more but tough giving up that youth and talent. JVR has been non-existent tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:07:51 PM
Could this be Willy's last game as a Leaf? Because we need an actual defenceman and nothing other than a Willy is getting a good or great one...

He's battled at times but shy's away from the corners and rough stuff. Like I posted earlier they should have traded JVR to get some help. Nylander obviously going to get you more but tough giving up that youth and talent. JVR has been non-existent tonight.
I was in he trade JVR camp as well. Time for Babs to put Matthews out every other shift
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 25, 2018, 10:08:27 PM
Andersen can't stop a beach ball. Leafs can't move their legs. Boston is bringing it.

The better team won. It was a good season.

I donít know why were supposed to be satisfied with a good showing in the first round but losing.


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on April 25, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
The Leafs aren't out of this yet.  Their offensive speed is noticeable tonight and they have been outplaying a few of the Bruins defence men.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: sickbeast on April 25, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
Could this be Willy's last game as a Leaf? Because we need an actual defenceman and nothing other than a Willy is getting a good or great one...

He's battled at times but shy's away from the corners and rough stuff. Like I posted earlier they should have traded JVR to get some help. Nylander obviously going to get you more but tough giving up that youth and talent. JVR has been non-existent tonight.
The Leafs wouldn't even be in game seven right now without JVR's goals in this series.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
The pain of being a Leafs fan never seems to go away.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:10:24 PM
JVR is so slow

Canít wait for Polak, JVR and Bozak to be gone. Sooooo slow.  And JVR does nothing but stand in front of the net.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 10:10:41 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:11:11 PM
And Gardiner again
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 10:11:22 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: sickbeast on April 25, 2018, 10:11:36 PM
Man what a disappointing third period.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:11:56 PM
Wow, total collapse.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:12:11 PM
Absolute embarrassment of an effort.  Gardiner again. Completely lost. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.

It's hard to believe how they just dried up.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
That play summarizes the Leafs shortcomings pretty nicely. Pass to no one out of the dzone, leave a guy all alone in front.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Kaberle15 on April 25, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
Bench Gardiner. Play Dermott more.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:12:53 PM
Yeah. Alright. Bad luck leads now to bad decisions.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
And Freddie, heís the guy that commits to everything immediately. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:13:08 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.

Not a playoff team. Too many soft players said it a thousand times. Guilt trip you can add Komarov and Gardiner to that list of dumps.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
Oh well. Been a great year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
They arenít even trying. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
Oh well. Been a great year.

Not really.  This isnít a success in any way.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 10:14:16 PM
Andersen can't stop a beach ball. Leafs can't move their legs. Boston is bringing it.

The better team won. It was a good season.

I donít know why were supposed to be satisfied with a good showing in the first round but losing.


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No one is saying you have to be. I didn't expect this series to go more than 5 games. Boston is clearly the better team.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Kaberle15 on April 25, 2018, 10:14:20 PM
Worst game by Gardiner in the worst time ever
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:15:10 PM
You can't go 9+ minutes without a shot with a 1-goal lead to start the 3rd.  That's inexcusable.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
It's hard to believe how they just dried up.

They weren't exactly great in the 2nd, either. Boston had the puck much more. The Leafs were just able to keep the Bruins from finishing on plays, and got a little lucky on what they were able to generate for themselves. The Bruins smelled blood, and, well, here we are.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.

Not a playoff team. Too many soft players said it a thousand times. Guilt trip you can add Komarov and Gardiner to that list of dumps.
Definitely. Future is still bright.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: bustaheims on April 25, 2018, 10:16:28 PM
You can't go 9+ minutes without a shot with a 1-goal lead to start the 3rd.  That's inexcusable.

Nope. This isn't on any player in particular. This is a team failure.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lamajama on April 25, 2018, 10:16:52 PM
Really disappointed in Andersen tonight. Gardiner is being Gardiner as he is prone to do and picked the wrong game to have his brain cramps.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: wnc096 on April 25, 2018, 10:17:06 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.

Not a playoff team. Too many soft players said it a thousand times. Guilt trip you can add Komarov and Gardiner to that list of dumps.

Yes....they are not a playoff team  ::)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Worst game by Gardiner in the worst time ever
Gardiner has been doing this all year. He's so soft.. Everyone gets caught up in the offence. He's terrible defensively
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:17:51 PM
Canít wait for Babcock to tell us how good Gardiner is. 

None of it matters. This team canít win with Andersen as th or goalie. He isnít good.  The numbers support it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 25, 2018, 10:20:09 PM
THat's the dagger. Leafs just awful in the 3rd. Andersen needed to have the 5th one. Just all around awful since late in the 2nd - for basically the entire lineup.

Not a playoff team. Too many soft players said it a thousand times. Guilt trip you can add Komarov and Gardiner to that list of dumps.

Yes....they are not a playoff team  ::)

Yup, better fix the D but Mathews lack of scoring is also a concern
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:20:19 PM
Well, this is probably it. Tough way to end a good season and great series.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: tomcom on April 25, 2018, 10:20:28 PM
I said before I don't care what Don Cherry said, I am saying that Anderson is not the goalie that will bring us to the promise land and someone said I overstated.  Look at tonight, 2 crappy goals in three minutes.  Even my grandfather can stop those 2 goals. Gardiner was so damn lazy and slow that the 2nd and 5th goals are totally on him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 10:20:38 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:20:47 PM
This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.

And they refuse to change.  The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.  Goaltending, backchecking and defense, all incredibly mediocre. And yet, no changes.  Leafs basically gave up on this season the day they signed polak to a contract.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:21:51 PM
If Andersen is the goalie next year Iím not interested in watching.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
Good season guys. Tough finish and another hard lesson to take into next season.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on April 25, 2018, 10:23:16 PM
The Marlies are going to be stacked.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:24:14 PM
Really sucks that Matthews couldn't bury one in the first half of the game when he was absolutely flying. Went down a level in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 10:25:09 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:25:28 PM
The Marlies are going to be stacked.

And theyíll be carrying a chip on their shoulders. It should be glorious.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
Really sucks that Matthews couldn't bury one in the first half of the game when he was absolutely flying. Went down a level in the 3rd.

Pretty disappointing playoffs overall. He was shut down.

This was not a successful season. They didnít build on last season in any regard.  No home ice in the first round, and they lose.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: harps64 on April 25, 2018, 10:25:55 PM
Gardiner-5 tonight, Polak+3......just sayin.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2018, 10:26:10 PM
Really sucks that Matthews couldn't bury one in the first half of the game when he was absolutely flying. Went down a level in the 3rd.

The whole team seemed to drop a level in the 3rd (late 2nd, even).
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:26:11 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

They brought back Polak!!  What else can you conclude?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott were bottom-3 in ice-time tonight. Kappy played under 10 minutes. Can't imagine we'll see that next year in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:26:31 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

Some of the stuff I've seen written here in the last few minutes is really quite pathetic.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:26:59 PM
If Andersen is the goalie next year Iím not interested in watching.
Well goodbye. Freddie isnt the problem. We've all said it all year.. The D isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:27:05 PM
You can't go 9+ minutes without a shot with a 1-goal lead to start the 3rd.  That's inexcusable.

Nope. This isn't on any player in particular. This is a team failure.

Yeah.  Gardiner and Andersen definitely fell apart but the whole team just quit playing.

There's a lot of work to do over the summer.  Matthews needs to commit himself to never have a playoff series like this again.  He just didn't get it done.  Nylander too was way too late in bringing it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
Time for Shanahan, Lou whoever is in charge to make some changes. Team has had so many deficiencies all year never mind last 2 years and they haven't addressed it. Utter BS. Babcock with some idiotic lineup decisions all year. Team gets manhandled a lot because they don't have many of those type of players to come back and do the same thing. Can't build a team strictly on offensive skill and crappy defensive play. Upper brass needs to realize that. I'm sure they have a plan but no excuse not to add something after last year. What are we paying Lou for? If basically training Dubas then fine but he hasn't helped this team take a leap forward. You can say whatever you want about the regular season. It doesn't mean s**t when you get to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
I really wish they had just lost in 5...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
Really sucks that Matthews couldn't bury one in the first half of the game when he was absolutely flying. Went down a level in the 3rd.

The whole team seemed to drop a level in the 3rd (late 2nd, even).

For sure.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:28:38 PM
Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott were bottom-3 in ice-time tonight. Kappy played under 10 minutes. Can't imagine we'll see that next year in the playoffs.
Great coaching by the genius, the guys that are actually playing well, don't play them much
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:28:55 PM
Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott were bottom-3 in ice-time tonight. Kappy played under 10 minutes. Can't imagine we'll see that next year in the playoffs.

Do you think Babcock will change his stripes?  There is a point you have to ask why Babcock does what he does.  Limiting the better players minutes is a legit concern.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

Some of the stuff I've seen written here in the last few minutes is really quite pathetic.
Agreed. This is the 2nd year of the rebuild. Relax. We need to up our D. Changes up front are coming also.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:29:11 PM
Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:29:12 PM
Dubas save us
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:29:26 PM
This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.

There's no way you can class this loss with the last one. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: barney_rebel on April 25, 2018, 10:29:48 PM
Good season guys.  See you in the fall.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:30:13 PM
Offseason plans based on how this series went:

1) Rebuild the entire right-side defence
2) Put together a legitimate top line that you don't feel you need to shelter in any way
3) Commit to a back-up that Babcock will play in 25-30 games so Andersen stays fresh
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:30:21 PM
If Andersen is the goalie next year Iím not interested in watching.
Well goodbye. Freddie isnt the problem. We've all said it all year.. The D isn't good enough.

We made it to game 7.  Tonight, the problem was Freddie.  Thatís a fact.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Stronger Than All on April 25, 2018, 10:30:51 PM
My 8 year old went to bed at 4-3 Leafs.  I really feel bad for him in the morning.

Anyways Freddie did let them down tonight but Iíd still keep him and address the D. 


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:30:54 PM
Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.

We gave them a helluva scare.  But we are still more than a year away from being a serious playoff threat.  They've got to win a series first.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:31:09 PM
Offseason plans based on how this series went:

1) Rebuild the entire right-side defence
2) Put together a legitimate top line that you don't feel you need to shelter in any way
3) Commit to a back-up that Babcock will play in 25-30 games so Andersen stays fresh

Canít agree with number 3.  Andersen is a problem.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: wnc096 on April 25, 2018, 10:31:43 PM
Really sucks that Matthews couldn't bury one in the first half of the game when he was absolutely flying. Went down a level in the 3rd.

Pretty disappointing playoffs overall. He was shut down.

This was not a successful season. They didnít build on last season in any regard.  No home ice in the first round, and they lose.

what would your hot take been if they had lost in 5?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:31:52 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

Some of the stuff I've seen written here in the last few minutes is really quite pathetic.
Agreed. This is the 2nd year of the rebuild. Relax. We need to up our D. Changes up front are coming also.
Yeah it's disappointing but Leafs are only 2 years removed from 30th overall, people seem to forget that. When you're in the playoffs you want to have it all now but it doesn't always work out like that. Disappointing playoffs for Matthews and Nylander and Andersen. Marner was the only star who brought it throughout the series. Props to old man Marleau too.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:32:02 PM
Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott were bottom-3 in ice-time tonight. Kappy played under 10 minutes. Can't imagine we'll see that next year in the playoffs.

Do you think Babcock will change his stripes?  There is a point you have to ask why Babcock does what he does.  Limiting the better players minutes is a legit concern.
Yes because if the plan goes right, you won't see JVR, Leo, Polak, Bozak will be gone so he can't revert back to his go to guys
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:32:03 PM
Offseason plans based on how this series went:

1) Rebuild the entire right-side defence
2) Put together a legitimate top line that you don't feel you need to shelter in any way
3) Commit to a back-up that Babcock will play in 25-30 games so Andersen stays fresh

Canít agree with number 3.  Andersen is a problem.

Well, he's not going anywhere, so the team needs to put him in a better position to succeed regardless of what anyone thinks of him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:32:12 PM
Game 7 11 goals scored in the game 4 from us and Matthews held pointless. Nuff said. The way he was playing in the 1st period I thought maybe he would make it up for the first 6 games. Didn't happen. Both him and Nylander were a complete disappointment all series.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:33:20 PM
If Andersen is the goalie next year Iím not interested in watching.
Well goodbye. Freddie isnt the problem. We've all said it all year.. The D isn't good enough.

We made it to game 7.  Tonight, the problem was Freddie.  Thatís a fact.

Nobody here can defend his game tonight or in the first 2 but he was excellent in the Leafs 3 wins and good in the home loss.  He set a team record for wins, man.  If he's a "problem," then I'll take that problem.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: mr grieves on April 25, 2018, 10:33:26 PM
You can't go 9+ minutes without a shot with a 1-goal lead to start the 3rd.  That's inexcusable.

Nope. This isn't on any player in particular. This is a team failure.

Yeah.  Gardiner and Andersen definitely fell apart but the whole team just quit playing.

There's a lot of work to do over the summer.  Matthews needs to commit himself to never have a playoff series like this again.  He just didn't get it done.  Nylander too was way too late in bringing it.

Eh... the 6th goal was on Gardiner, but otherwise... you don't just lose a playoff game after scoring 4 goals unless your goaltender really falls flat.

I don't know that Andersen is any worse than Rask though. It's hard to say either way when the team fails to generate any sort of offense for, like, 15, 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2018, 10:34:00 PM
This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.

There's no way you can class this loss with the last one.

It feels the same.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:34:08 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

Some of the stuff I've seen written here in the last few minutes is really quite pathetic.
Agreed. This is the 2nd year of the rebuild. Relax. We need to up our D. Changes up front are coming also.
Yeah it's disappointing but Leafs are only 2 years removed from 30th overall, people seem to forget that. When you're in the playoffs you want to have it all now but it doesn't always work out like that. Disappointing playoffs for Matthews and Nylander and Andersen. Marner was the only star who brought it throughout the series. Props to old man Marleau too.

Well said.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:35:10 PM
You can't go 9+ minutes without a shot with a 1-goal lead to start the 3rd.  That's inexcusable.

Nope. This isn't on any player in particular. This is a team failure.

Yeah.  Gardiner and Andersen definitely fell apart but the whole team just quit playing.

There's a lot of work to do over the summer.  Matthews needs to commit himself to never have a playoff series like this again.  He just didn't get it done.  Nylander too was way too late in bringing it.

Eh... the 6th goal was on Gardiner, but otherwise... you don't just lose a playoff game after scoring 4 goals unless your goaltender really falls flat.

I don't know that Andersen is any worse than Rask though. It's hard to say either way when the team fails to generate any sort of offense for, like, 15, 20 minutes.

Yeah, Rask had better improve quick or Tampa will shred him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.

We gave them a helluva scare.  But we are still more than a year away from being a serious playoff threat.  They've got to win a series first.

Itís all about the culmination of positive steps forward. Itís the first season playing with real expectations. We are going to cut bait with some anchors on the roster and the kids (who will still be kids) will be a bit wiser next time around. No way Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott donít get full seasons with the big club.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:35:46 PM

The Bruins are a damn good team. I'm curious to see how Tampa matches up against them.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 25, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
Upgrade the D, you didnít last summer, same result. Our D sucks, plain old sucks, surely we can get better. Trade from an area of strength wingers and offensive type D for defensive type D. Do it, you have to.

 I donít blame Andersen. We were lucky to get 7 games.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
This is twice now that the Leafs have been absolutely humiliated by Boston in a game 7. As much as I am trying to remain objective and dispassionate, I can't really look past that.

There's no way you can class this loss with the last one.

It feels the same.

I won't try to deny you your feelings, but blowing a 3 goal lead they way they did is objectively a whole different animal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: lc9 on April 25, 2018, 10:36:16 PM
Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott were bottom-3 in ice-time tonight. Kappy played under 10 minutes. Can't imagine we'll see that next year in the playoffs.

Do you think Babcock will change his stripes?  There is a point you have to ask why Babcock does what he does.  Limiting the better players minutes is a legit concern.
Yes because if the plan goes right, you won't see JVR, Leo, Polak, Bozak will be gone so he can't revert back to his go to guys

I can get on board with this.  All those players need to go.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:37:37 PM
Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.

We gave them a helluva scare.  But we are still more than a year away from being a serious playoff threat.  They've got to win a series first.

Itís all about the culmination of positive steps forward. Itís the first season playing with real expectations. We are going to cut bait with some anchors on the roster and the kids (who will still be kids) will be a bit wiser next time around. No way Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott donít get full seasons with the big club.

As I said before the series began, this is the last year they get to play with house money in the playoffs.  They'd better win a playoff round next year or there will be some major rebellion due.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:37:46 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this team next year minus JVR, Komarov, Bozak, Polak and maybe Gardiner.  But I do think we need to add some size and grit to the forward group. We need someone big who can skate and is willing to punish defenders. I don't know if there is anyone in the system like that, unfortunately.

Freddie was not in his superhuman mode tonight, but when you look at the way the Leafs run around in the dzone and leave players wide open...can't lay all the blame on him.

I hate the Bruins :)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:37:53 PM
The leafs are completely ok with mediocre play and actually encourage it.

ROFL, yeah, Shanahan is totally like, "ok guys, let's go be mediocre".

 ::)

Some of the stuff I've seen written here in the last few minutes is really quite pathetic.
Agreed. This is the 2nd year of the rebuild. Relax. We need to up our D. Changes up front are coming also.
Yeah it's disappointing but Leafs are only 2 years removed from 30th overall, people seem to forget that. When you're in the playoffs you want to have it all now but it doesn't always work out like that. Disappointing playoffs for Matthews and Nylander and Andersen. Marner was the only star who brought it throughout the series. Props to old man Marleau too.
Not to let anyone of the hook, but remember Chara is still a beast and Matthews was up against him for most of the series. I'm not worried about him tho.
I think the Leafs as a whole sat back to much.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: mr grieves on April 25, 2018, 10:38:07 PM
Nobody here can defend his game tonight or in the first 2 but he was excellent in the Leafs 3 wins and good in the home loss.  He set a team record for wins, man.  If he's a "problem," then I'll take that problem.

He was excellent in game 6. Otherwise, he was fine. (except, of course, when he was bad -- in games 1, 2, and 7)

I'm old enough to remember the last time we had a really great goalie who definitely wasn't "a 'problem'" because he set -- or tied -- a record for wins.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:38:32 PM
Mad props to the Bruins. They know how to play and they did what it takes for every inch of their ice.

I like to think we gave them a bit of a scare. We are on the cusp of something more special than this.

We gave them a helluva scare.  But we are still more than a year away from being a serious playoff threat.  They've got to win a series first.

Itís all about the culmination of positive steps forward. Itís the first season playing with real expectations. We are going to cut bait with some anchors on the roster and the kids (who will still be kids) will be a bit wiser next time around. No way Kapanen, Johnsson, and Dermott donít get full seasons with the big club.

As I said before the series began, this is the last year they get to play with house money in the playoffs.  They'd better win a playoff round next year or there will be some major rebellion due.
Agreed
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:41:34 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this team next year minus JVR, Komarov, Bozak, Polak and maybe Gardiner.  But I do think we need to add some size and grit to the forward group. We need someone big who can skate and is willing to punish defenders. I don't know if there is anyone in the system like that, unfortunately.

Freddie was not in his superhuman mode tonight, but when you look at the way the Leafs run around in the dzone and leave players wide open...can't lay all the blame on him.

I hate the Bruins :)
Agreed. Leafs have some holes still. Should be interesting to see what they do next year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:43:20 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this team next year minus JVR, Komarov, Bozak, Polak and maybe Gardiner.  But I do think we need to add some size and grit to the forward group. We need someone big who can skate and is willing to punish defenders. I don't know if there is anyone in the system like that, unfortunately.

Grundstrom has a bit of that to his game, and Babcock has kind of earmarked him to be Matthews' winger down the road.

Tampa does just fine with even smaller wingers though, so I don't know if big and gritty is necessarily the answer. Players who pay the iron price to play though, you can always use those (a Hyman with even better hands and stickhandling, for example).
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Nik Bethune on April 25, 2018, 10:44:27 PM
Ah well. Can't win 'em all.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 25, 2018, 10:44:55 PM
Iím going to do the same thing Iíve done the last 3 seasons.  I donít watch any Leaf games until theyíve secured a playoff spot. Itís been much healthier for me.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: tomcom on April 25, 2018, 10:45:01 PM
Yeah.  Gardiner and Andersen definitely fell apart but the whole team just quit playing.

There's a lot of work to do over the summer.  Matthews needs to commit himself to never have a playoff series like this again.  He just didn't get it done.  Nylander too was way too late in bringing it.

When forwards scored such great goals and the goalie let in beach ball, it will be hard not to fall apart!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Oracle on April 25, 2018, 10:45:02 PM
Upgrade the D, you didnít last summer, same result. Our D sucks, plain old sucks, surely we can get better. Trade from an area of strength wingers and offensive type D for defensive type D. Do it, you have to.

 I donít blame Andersen. We were lucky to get 7 games.

I blame Andersen a little bit, but mostly you're right. So, just how old are Rouse and Lefebvre now anyway? Think they've been keeping in shape? :)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:45:38 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this team next year minus JVR, Komarov, Bozak, Polak and maybe Gardiner.  But I do think we need to add some size and grit to the forward group. We need someone big who can skate and is willing to punish defenders. I don't know if there is anyone in the system like that, unfortunately.

Grundstrom has a bit of that to his game, and Babcock has kind of earmarked him to be Matthews' winger down the road.

Tampa does just fine with even smaller wingers though, so I don't know if big and gritty is necessarily the answer. Players who pay the iron price to play though, you can always use those (a Hyman with even better hands and stickhandling, for example).

It will be quite interesting to see how that plays out (Tampa vs Boston)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 25, 2018, 10:46:35 PM
I think itís okay to be frustrated that we did nothing to upgrade our D.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Nobody here can defend his game tonight or in the first 2 but he was excellent in the Leafs 3 wins and good in the home loss.  He set a team record for wins, man.  If he's a "problem," then I'll take that problem.

He was excellent in game 6. Otherwise, he was fine. (except, of course, when he was bad -- in games 1, 2, and 7)

I'm old enough to remember the last time we had a really great goalie who definitely wasn't "a 'problem'" because he set -- or tied -- a record for wins.
I'm game 7 you can pretty much throw out the rest of the series. It's one game winner take all and he didn't show up. Sure if he doesn't play great in a few other games Leafs don't even get there, but he crapped the bed huge tonight. That's the goalie position and what you're remembered for. It's the toughest job in hockey
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
There were some weird face-off decisions too, especially in the 3rd. Like when Marleau took it on the 4-on-4 that led to the Krug goal. Hyman was also taking face-offs even though Nylander was on the ice a couple of times and he lost them both.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:48:33 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this team next year minus JVR, Komarov, Bozak, Polak and maybe Gardiner.  But I do think we need to add some size and grit to the forward group. We need someone big who can skate and is willing to punish defenders. I don't know if there is anyone in the system like that, unfortunately.

Freddie was not in his superhuman mode tonight, but when you look at the way the Leafs run around in the dzone and leave players wide open...can't lay all the blame on him.

I hate the Bruins :)
Agreed. Leafs have some holes still. Should be interesting to see what they do next year.

Freddie had an off night. Too bad it was game 7 but he got us here. He had some spurts this year same as last either really good or really bad but he's the only reason we got 105 points. He's the MVP of this team this year plain and simple. Like it was said d zone coverage is horrible, number of shots against most night horrible, good quality chances again high due to our defensive play. I know it's only year 2 of the rebuild and we've come a long way. I just wished we would have addressed some of the problems after last year. Maybe made a difference. I'm sure management has a plan. I honestly don't think inserting Kappy and Johnsson full time will hurt our offense. Upgrade the D and we are headed in the right direction. Sign Doughty in 1 year and we'll be unbeatable.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 10:48:48 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:51:30 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
You pay the coach 6 million a year to do whatever it takes to win. He's got to assess who's playing well and who doesn't have it. It was fairly evident to everyone that Gardiner didn't have it tonight, evident to everyone but the coach. Part of the blame goes to the coach
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:52:30 PM
Kapanen could have had 4 goals in this series.  That guy is a clutch player.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:52:43 PM
There were some weird face-off decisions too, especially in the 3rd. Like when Marleau took it on the 4-on-4 that led to the Krug goal. Hyman was also taking face-offs even though Nylander was on the ice a couple of times and he lost them both.
Yeah I forgot about that. Defensive zone faceoff with no icing and you're protecting the lead, why not have your best faceoff guy take it every time?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 25, 2018, 10:52:49 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Oracle on April 25, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
Well another emotional roller-coaster for Leaf fans comes to a crashing halt. It's been real folks have a great summer!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Kapanen could have had 4 goals in this series.  That guy is a clutch player.
He'd probably need to play more than 8 minutes a game though
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 10:54:13 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: wnc096 on April 25, 2018, 10:55:07 PM

The Bruins are a damn good team. I'm curious to see how Tampa matches up against them.

People forget that the Leafs were UNDERDOGS right???
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:57:12 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

I know it's only his 2nd year in the league, but I would have liked to see more from him. Marner was dominant and he is also only in his 2nd year. Maybe we'll find out Matthews had a lingering injury problem.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: gunnar36 on April 25, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
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People forget that the Leafs were UNDERDOGS right???

Yeah, after games 1 & 2 I don't think there were many doubting that...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 10:57:51 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 10:57:58 PM
I think Kaps and Johnsson stick with the club next year. We need better team D like the Bruins.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Chris on April 25, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
I think Kaps and Johnsson stick with the club next year. We need better team D like the Bruins.
No way Kappy isn't with this team next year...unless he's part of a trade for a #1 dman.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 10:59:44 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.

Herman I respect your comments on this forum but Gardiner was plain and simple horrible all night. Man if you have the game recorded or a chance to watch it again in it's entirety count the number of mistakes Gardiner cost us today plus all the ill advised bad passes and icing and running around in his own end. Minus 2 in the collapse in 2012 and even better minus 5 tonight. Enough said.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
You pay the coach 6 million a year to do whatever it takes to win. He's got to assess who's playing well and who doesn't have it. It was fairly evident to everyone that Gardiner didn't have it tonight, evident to everyone but the coach. Part of the blame goes to the coach

Winning at all costs isn't his job though.  Throwing the young guys to the wolves and destroying their confidence isn't Babcock's job.  The Leafs are trying to build something long term, and bringing along your younger players is more important. 

Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 11:01:29 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 11:03:18 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.

Herman I respect your comments on this forum but Gardiner was plain and simple horrible all night. Man if you have the game recorded or a chance to watch it again in it's entirety count the number of mistakes Gardiner cost us today plus all the ill advised bad passes and icing and running around in his own end. Minus 2 in the collapse in 2012 and even better minus 5 tonight. Enough said.

You're right that Gardiner had a forgettable night (that none of you will forget). What I was talking about has less to do with Gardiner specifically and more to do with the general coaching formula.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:03:18 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Yeah, he's still 6'9" but he's a shell of his former self.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 11:04:04 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Are we talking about Matthews?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Joe S. on April 25, 2018, 11:04:22 PM
I honestly feel that the bruins were the better team for the vast majority of the series. I'm glad the the leafs made a series of it and it's unfortunate that the league has a weird ass playoff format.

But these last 2 years have been gravy to me. The real contention clock starts ticking next year in my mind. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:05:00 PM
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Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Yeah, he's still 6'9" but he's a shell of his former self.

It was a mistake not to try to ramp him up earlier in the series with more pucks behind. Tampa is going to have a much easier time now.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
I get a sinking feeling that Gardiner is done as a Leaf. He's too risk/reward. But man, we are so thin on D if we're getting rid of Polak and who knows about Zaitsev. This team is lacking so badly on D.

And beyond that I feel like the Leafs were outplayed pretty soundly this game. They were badly outshot and I think were lucky to be up in that game. Boston is just ahead of us in their window.

And I mean, Freddy still has to have that De Brusk goal (and maybe one or two more). He's bad in game 7s if 3 games is something to go on.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zee on April 25, 2018, 11:06:42 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
You pay the coach 6 million a year to do whatever it takes to win. He's got to assess who's playing well and who doesn't have it. It was fairly evident to everyone that Gardiner didn't have it tonight, evident to everyone but the coach. Part of the blame goes to the coach

Winning at all costs isn't his job though.  Throwing the young guys to the wolves and destroying their confidence isn't Babcock's job.  The Leafs are trying to build something long term, and bringing along your younger players is more important.
In the playoffs his job is to win and put players on the ice that give you the best chance of winning. Gardiner wasn't one of them tonight.

Look at the Boston side, Debrusk is 21 and played over 15 minutes, they weren't afraid to give a young guy who was playing well a shot. Kapanen should have gotten more ice, Dermott should have gotten more ice. You play to win, otherwise what's the point?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 11:06:58 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Are we talking about Matthews?

Yes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:07:20 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.
Matthew is not overrated and I'm def not worried about him. Give some credit to Chara. I think Babs said that Datsyuk didn't score a goal in his 1st 4 playoff series. He's 20 years old. I really hope Babs gives him Johnsson or Kaps for a winger next year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:09:02 PM
I get a sinking feeling that Gardiner is done as a Leaf. He's too risk/reward. But man, we are so thin on D if we're getting rid of Polak and who knows about Zaitsev. This team is lacking so badly on D.

He still led the team in ice-time in both the regular season and playoffs. As much as fans love to rag on him Mike Babcock is still probably his biggest supporter.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 11:11:17 PM
Winning at all costs isn't his job though.  Throwing the young guys to the wolves and destroying their confidence isn't Babcock's job.  The Leafs are trying to build something long term, and bringing along your younger players is more important.
In the playoffs his job is to win and put players on the ice that give you the best chance of winning. Gardiner wasn't one of them tonight.

Look at the Boston side, Debrusk is 21 and played over 15 minutes, they weren't afraid to give a young guy who was playing well a shot. Kapanen should have gotten more ice, Dermott should have gotten more ice. You play to win, otherwise what's the point?

I agree with the both of you.

We saw this with the Penguins and the Lightning when they made their coaching changes. The lineup got turned over to the kids on their second layer of depth because the coaches (coming right out of the AHL) knew them and already trusted them. Cassidy is in a similar position.

The difference for the Leafs is that Babcock doesn't know our kids well enough, and our first layer of depth is not Stamkos-Kucherov-Hedman, Crosby-Malkin-Kessel-Letang, they're Kadri-Bozak-JvR-Gardiner-Rielly. DeBrusk can be put into position to excel with minimal responsibility because he's behind one of the best, if not the best forward line in the past two season.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 11:11:27 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game



The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
You pay the coach 6 million a year to do whatever it takes to win. He's got to assess who's playing well and who doesn't have it. It was fairly evident to everyone that Gardiner didn't have it tonight, evident to everyone but the coach. Part of the blame goes to the coach

Winning at all costs isn't his job though.  Throwing the young guys to the wolves and destroying their confidence isn't Babcock's job.  The Leafs are trying to build something long term, and bringing along your younger players is more important.
In the playoffs his job is to win and put players on the ice that give you the best chance of winning. Gardiner wasn't one of them tonight.

Look at the Boston side, Debrusk is 21 and played over 15 minutes, they weren't afraid to give a young guy who was playing well a shot. Kapanen should have gotten more ice, Dermott should have gotten more ice. You play to win, otherwise what's the point?

I honestly would have rested Gardiner early in the second. He had already cost us and I recall a shift early in the second again he was giving the puck away and making poor decisions. The time to pull him was then. He ended up costing us even more. He was a minus 5 tonight albeit one was the empty net I believe but he was flat out atrocious. Hrudey in the second intermission was all over his horrid play. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 25, 2018, 11:12:02 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.
Matthew is not overrated and I'm def not worried about him. Give some credit to Chara. I think Babs said that Datsyuk didn't score a goal in his 1st 4 playoff series. He's 20 years old. I really hope Babs gives him Johnsson or Kaps for a winger next year.

I hope I'm wrong but he's definitely got something to prove in the playoffs next year (assuming we make them).
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.
You pay the coach 6 million a year to do whatever it takes to win. He's got to assess who's playing well and who doesn't have it. It was fairly evident to everyone that Gardiner didn't have it tonight, evident to everyone but the coach. Part of the blame goes to the coach

Winning at all costs isn't his job though.  Throwing the young guys to the wolves and destroying their confidence isn't Babcock's job.  The Leafs are trying to build something long term, and bringing along your younger players is more important.
In the playoffs his job is to win and put players on the ice that give you the best chance of winning. Gardiner wasn't one of them tonight.

Look at the Boston side, Debrusk is 21 and played over 15 minutes, they weren't afraid to give a young guy who was playing well a shot. Kapanen should have gotten more ice, Dermott should have gotten more ice. You play to win, otherwise what's the point?
Agree with that. You have to play who's going. Babs should have sat Gardiner but couldn't early when Reilly got hurt. He def could have later. Gardiner's mistakes were the ultimate downfall in this game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: gunnar36 on April 25, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often ).

2)Nylander on at least 3 plays could have easily beaten Chara cleanly to a puck but choose to pull a Kessel and lay up.  I would like to see a little more fire from a guy playing for his next contract.

3)  the Bruins play far better team defence, not just the 6 guys on the back end, but the forwards in their end are far more involved in winning puck battles then the Leafs.  By virtue of the size and toughness advantage the Bruins have, I feel gave them a big advantage on defending and making it hard for the Leafs to sustain an attack.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.
Matthew is not overrated and I'm def not worried about him. Give some credit to Chara. I think Babs said that Datsyuk didn't score a goal in his 1st 4 playoff series. He's 20 years old. I really hope Babs gives him Johnsson or Kaps for a winger next year.

I hope I'm wrong but he's definitely got something to prove in the playoffs next year (assuming we make them).
I agree with that. He was fine last year but Washington doesn't have a Chara. It's not like he didn't get any chances. He had 9 shots on goal the last 2 games. He can't do it on his own either. No offense but Hyman and Brown don't exactly scream offense. Kaps would be a better fit IMO. Nylander played scared out there..Matthews didn't. One good thing tho, it should keep Willies contact reasonable
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 11:18:27 PM
A lot of great players look pretty plain on a steady diet of Chara.

A 41-year-old Chara who looked gassed out there a lot tonight.

Are we talking about Matthews?

Yes.

I've said it earlier this year and thought I would get blasted for it but Matthews lacks that little bit of nastiness or grit. Some guys have it some don't. I don't think it's something you acquire but who knows maybe it'll come. He's a huge talent. Top 5 centers in the league and personally think he can get into the top 3 behind Crosby, McDavid. He's an exceptional player but that element he's missing right now is what will separate him from Crosby and Connor but in the wrong way. What troubles me is that he has the size over those 2 but doesnt use it as much as he should. Again maybe that will come. Personally I don't think so. players like him and Nylander their games are great for the regular season but playoffs is a whole new ballgame. You have to bring it, can't be afraid to go in the corners, take a hit, dish a hit etc.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Nik Bethune on April 25, 2018, 11:20:36 PM

Oh good. I was wondering if somehow this loss would be attributed to someone's inability to hit someone else.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 25, 2018, 11:21:40 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often ).

2)Nylander on at least 3 plays could have easily beaten Chara cleanly to a puck but choose to pull a Kessel and lay up.  I would like to see a little more fire from a guy playing for his next contract.

3)  the Bruins play far better team defence, not just the 6 guys on the back end, but the forwards in their end are far more involved in winning puck battles then the Leafs.  By virtue of the size and toughness advantage the Bruins have, I feel gave them a big advantage on defending and making it hard for the Leafs to sustain an attack.
And they really work hard on the forecheck and play a really tight neutral zone game. The Leafs have no answer for that unless they do the same and they really didn't. They gave up the line so easily, they hardly seemed to forecheck and the Bruins were able to cleanly exit the zone and carry the puck over the blue line as a result and create sustained pressure over and over. This team needs a bit of that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Captain Canuck on April 25, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
Would have liked to get revenge on the Bruins, but still very happy with the progress made this season. Looking forward to the off-season, as management will shore up the D and make the team strong in all areas. Leafs should be good for a deep playoff run next year!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often )
Don't agree with that. Gardiner plays the same way all year. He constantly let's the opponent get to the puck first.. Gives it away constantly and is so soft in front of the net. He was coasting out there.
The Bruins went after him hard and he failed. The Leafs don't make the playoffs without Freddie. Time to see if Tommy Lilypad is ready.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: mr grieves on April 25, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
I get a sinking feeling that Gardiner is done as a Leaf. He's too risk/reward. But man, we are so thin on D if we're getting rid of Polak and who knows about Zaitsev. This team is lacking so badly on D.

He still led the team in ice-time in both the regular season and playoffs. As much as fans love to rag on him Mike Babcock is still probably his biggest supporter.

Also, Lou's about to be sent to the farm, and our beautiful boy Kyle won't make any stupid decisions. Gardiner is fine.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: gunnar36 on April 25, 2018, 11:27:19 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often ).

2)Nylander on at least 3 plays could have easily beaten Chara cleanly to a puck but choose to pull a Kessel and lay up.  I would like to see a little more fire from a guy playing for his next contract.

3)  the Bruins play far better team defence, not just the 6 guys on the back end, but the forwards in their end are far more involved in winning puck battles then the Leafs.  By virtue of the size and toughness advantage the Bruins have, I feel gave them a big advantage on defending and making it hard for the Leafs to sustain an attack.
And they really work hard on the forecheck and play a really tight neutral zone game. The Leafs have no answer for that unless they do the same and they really didn't. They gave up the line so easily, they hardly seemed to forecheck and the Bruins were able to cleanly exit the zone and carry the puck over the blue line as a result and create sustained pressure over and over. This team needs a bit of that.

Yes, you are bang on with that.  I get a sense that we have a team that is built to consistently make the playoffs, but not succeed at playoff hockey.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2018, 11:27:44 PM
A big thank you to CarltonTheBear for all the first class game day threads again this year.  Fist bump to Herman and Nik for filling in on a few as well. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:28:16 PM

Oh good. I was wondering if somehow this loss would be attributed to someone's inability to hit someone else.
Hahaha.. Matthews hit guys out there. I saw it with my own 2 eyes
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 25, 2018, 11:30:23 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often ).

2)Nylander on at least 3 plays could have easily beaten Chara cleanly to a puck but choose to pull a Kessel and lay up.  I would like to see a little more fire from a guy playing for his next contract.

3)  the Bruins play far better team defence, not just the 6 guys on the back end, but the forwards in their end are far more involved in winning puck battles then the Leafs.  By virtue of the size and toughness advantage the Bruins have, I feel gave them a big advantage on defending and making it hard for the Leafs to sustain an attack.
And they really work hard on the forecheck and play a really tight neutral zone game. The Leafs have no answer for that unless they do the same and they really didn't. They gave up the line so easily, they hardly seemed to forecheck and the Bruins were able to cleanly exit the zone and carry the puck over the blue line as a result and create sustained pressure over and over. This team needs a bit of that.

Yes, you are bang on with that.  I get a sense that we have a team that is built to consistently make the playoffs, but not succeed at playoff hockey.
Take a step back. This is year 2 of the rebuild. You don't build a team overnight. Let's see what they do in the off season
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: mr grieves on April 25, 2018, 11:33:43 PM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.

Let's note, at this point, that the real back-breaker in that series -- and in game 7 particularly -- was one Jake DeBrusk. A 21 year old rookie who average 15 min/game during the series.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 25, 2018, 11:34:12 PM
A big thank you to CarltonTheBear for all the first class game day threads again this year.  Fist bump to Herman and Nik for filling in on a few as well.

Head rubs all around!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: gunnar36 on April 25, 2018, 11:34:36 PM

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Don't agree with that. Gardiner plays the same way all year. He constantly let's the opponent get to the puck first.. Gives it away constantly and is so soft in front of the net. He was coasting out there.
The Bruins went after him hard and he failed. The Leafs don't make the playoffs without Freddie. Time to see if Tommy Lilypad is ready.

We obviously see his value very differently.  I think he was a little wore down by game 7 and had played 26 tough minutes Monday.  Having a stud defensive defenceman that can play the tough defensive minutes would certainly benefit guys like Gardiner. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 25, 2018, 11:34:39 PM

Oh good. I was wondering if somehow this loss would be attributed to someone's inability to hit someone else.

Nik we are not a tough team. Definitely lacking a lot of that. Playoff hockey is survival. The game is a lot tougher than the regular season. You have to go in the corners, sacrifice taking a hit to make plays. Bruins plain and simple are a tougher team. Sh*t I could count endless times we could take the body and stop a Bruins movement but they shy away from the guy and they retained possession. Countless times we could have hit Marchand but no. He doesn't stop from hitting or taking cheap shots at our players. No one stood up to him. I don't get it. I know the game has changed but you still need a bit of that especially in the playoffs. Only to keep the other team honest or at least know they can't get away with it. Leafs don't strike any fear in anyone. Nylander for sure as stated played the Kessel of years past going into the corners. Every time Chara was going back to retrieve a puck and the race was on Nylander shied away. Not going to win you many playoff games let alone a Cup when you have too many of them players on one team.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 25, 2018, 11:40:37 PM
A big thank you to CarltonTheBear for all the first class game day threads again this year.  Fist bump to Herman and Nik for filling in on a few as well. 

No problem. I'm glad my posts enabled you all to enjoy the games a little more.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on April 25, 2018, 11:48:33 PM
A few thoughts on game...

1)Yes it wasn't Gardiners best game. But cut him some slack, we would have never got to game 7 without him. He was the best dman on both teams in game 6.  He is the one guys who can separate guys from from puck and skate puck out of danger areas consistently. He is constantly making difficult plays look easy (and sometimes easy plays look difficult but not nearly as often ).

2)Nylander on at least 3 plays could have easily beaten Chara cleanly to a puck but choose to pull a Kessel and lay up.  I would like to see a little more fire from a guy playing for his next contract.

3)  the Bruins play far better team defence, not just the 6 guys on the back end, but the forwards in their end are far more involved in winning puck battles then the Leafs.  By virtue of the size and toughness advantage the Bruins have, I feel gave them a big advantage on defending and making it hard for the Leafs to sustain an attack.
And they really work hard on the forecheck and play a really tight neutral zone game. The Leafs have no answer for that unless they do the same and they really didn't. They gave up the line so easily, they hardly seemed to forecheck and the Bruins were able to cleanly exit the zone and carry the puck over the blue line as a result and create sustained pressure over and over. This team needs a bit of that.

Yes, you are bang on with that.  I get a sense that we have a team that is built to consistently make the playoffs, but not succeed at playoff hockey.

I have this same concern.  The new Washington Capitals to 2027.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: mr grieves on April 25, 2018, 11:58:40 PM
I have this same concern.  The new Washington Capitals to 2027.

I'd worry about this if I knew what makes the Washington Capitals the Washington Capitals.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Dappleganger on April 26, 2018, 12:11:04 AM
Jake picked a shitty time have the worst game of his career.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Al14 on April 26, 2018, 12:51:11 AM
Jake picked a shitty time have the worst game of his career.
Well, at least it wasn't game 7 of the Stanley Cup final!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 26, 2018, 01:08:05 AM
It stings, but our core is still super green and will learn from this.

The next time they find themselves in this situation they'll be better versions of themselves and will have experience to draw from.

I am pretty excited to see what the team can do in the summer.

I hope Dubas is the GM.

I hope they let the UFA's walk.

I hope for at least one significant acquisition at both forward and defence.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 26, 2018, 02:29:39 AM
It stings, but our core is still super green and will learn from this.

The next time they find themselves in this situation they'll be better versions of themselves and will have experience to draw from.

I am pretty excited to see what the team can do in the summer.

I hope Dubas is the GM.

I hope they let the UFA's walk.

I hope for at least one significant acquisition at both forward and defence.
It def will be interesting for sure to see what happens with the Leafs and what they do about Lou. I don't look at this as a set back.. It's a learning curve. End if the day only 1 team wins the cup. We just aren't good enough yet and some of that comes from experience and others from personnel. JVR despite his 3 pp goals is not a good 5v5 player. Bozak was actually pretty decent but again not very strong defensively. I'd like to think we've seen the last of Martin, Leo, JVR, Polak and Bozak in a Leafs uniform. Let's see who steps up from the Marlies like Dermott did this year. Kaps and Johnsson should have bigger roles next year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Arn on April 26, 2018, 04:18:23 AM
Emotional game. Some of the over-reactions on here are hilarious but that's the fun of being in the heat of the moment. Have a sleep on it, it'll feel better in the morning.

In all honesty that series should have been at least a round later, if not the Eastern final. It's ridiculous that the Leafs, Bruins and Lightning face eachother in the first 2 rounds.

This time 2 years ago the Leafs weren't even playing at this point of the year having come LAST. Now they're pushing a potential Stanley Cup favourite to 6 games despite not getting much from some of their best players. That's 2 years of really tough playoff experience now under the belts of a bunch of 20 year old guys.

We're about to subtract some of the "negatives" in Komarov, Bozak, Polak etc and replace them with more talented, young hungry players. We have cap space to try and be inventive with other additions to supplement that (hopefully under a new, younger GM). The off season could be almost as interesting as the season this year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 26, 2018, 05:30:18 AM
Gardiner and Anderssen had terrible games but we can't rest it all at their feet. Getting just over 20 shots against a team as strong as Boston is never a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 26, 2018, 06:57:20 AM
Jake picked a shitty time have the worst game of his career.


Where did this guy learn defence?  Seriously.   8)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 26, 2018, 07:03:18 AM
Congrats to Boston on coming through when it counted.  Good clutch work by the Bruins' youngsters.

Tip of the hat to the Leafs on a fantastic overall season. Thank you Leafs, for bringing the hope back in us fans. Too bad for the playoff results,  but as a young team, the best is still yet to come.  Optimism is here to stay.



GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 26, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
DeBrusk and his cocky attitude... little turd.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bullfrog on April 26, 2018, 08:16:17 AM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.

Over the last two seasons: 5th most total goals  despite playing 10-20 fewer (<----see that herman) games than most of the guys ahead of him, most even strength goals (tied with McDavid, but 20 fewer games), 3rd highest goals per game.

He's not overrated, he's flat out amazing and is only 20 years old.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on April 26, 2018, 08:37:04 AM
So last year there were questions about Marner and his ability to play in the playoffs.  I think he answered those questions. 

This year there are questions about Matthews and Nylander.  They showed glimpses, so I think this is just a learning experience for them, and I hope that they did learn from it and that they will be able to elevate their games when the team needs them to do so.  Being challenged to be better isn't always a bad thing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2018, 08:49:37 AM
It stings, but our core is still super green and will learn from this.

The next time they find themselves in this situation they'll be better versions of themselves and will have experience to draw from.

I am pretty excited to see what the team can do in the summer.

I hope Dubas is the GM.

I hope they let the UFA's walk.

I hope for at least one significant acquisition at both forward and defence.
It def will be interesting for sure to see what happens with the Leafs and what they do about Lou. I don't look at this as a set back.. It's a learning curve. End if the day only 1 team wins the cup. We just aren't good enough yet and some of that comes from experience and others from personnel. JVR despite his 3 pp goals is not a good 5v5 player. Bozak was actually pretty decent but again not very strong defensively. I'd like to think we've seen the last of Martin, Leo, JVR, Polak and Bozak in a Leafs uniform. Let's see who steps up from the Marlies like Dermott did this year. Kaps and Johnsson should have bigger roles next year.

Yeah it's time let go of the old hold overs. I know JVR was a PP specialist and had a ton of goals but we need more all around players who are hard to play against and really battle (but also have skill obviously). I thought Johnsson showed a lot of tenaciousness. I'm hoping Grundstrom can make an impact next year and maybe we can see what Liljegren can do.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 26, 2018, 08:54:21 AM
I don't even know why anyone would waste their breath discussing our forwards. The forwards clearly are not our problem. Defense, defense, defense, DEFENSE. How do we get better? Who do we sign/trade for?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: sickbeast on April 26, 2018, 09:03:21 AM
I don't even know why anyone would waster their breath discussing our forwards. The forwards clearly are not our problem. Defense, defense, defense, DEFENSE. How do we get better? Who do we sign/trade for?
I'm hoping Liljegren will be up with the club at least next season.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 26, 2018, 09:36:13 AM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.

Over the last two seasons: 5th most total goals  despite playing 10-20 fewer (<----see that herman) games than most of the guys ahead of him, most even strength goals (tied with McDavid, but 20 fewer games), 3rd highest goals per game.

He's not overrated, he's flat out amazing and is only 20 years old.

Not only that but he is playing why Hyman and Brown, both good players but it's not like Bergevan who plays with Pasta and the Beak. I thing Bergevan would have neutralized playing against the big goof Chara and not having the strongest wingers.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Palmateer29 on April 26, 2018, 09:41:07 AM
Jake picked a shitty time have the worst game of his career.

Lots of people jumping on him, he had a terrible game, so did Freddy for the most part, Nylander was terrible (the game tying goal is as much on him as it is on Jake), I almost forgot Bozak and JVR played for the Leafs last night they were completely invisible, Plekanec only had one job with his line and that failed as well. Tons of blame to go around but good on Jake for stepping up and saying it was his fault.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: sickbeast on April 26, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 26, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
Perspective is hard this soon after, but despite their young age, there are some issues here.

I think there are some concerns about Matthews.  He was largely ineffective and for a player of his talent and size it is of concern.

There have to be questions about Andersen.  While some games he was great, in three of the games he was not.  Is he consistent enough to be the guy?  That isnít clear to me.

The defence is bad.  Really bad and if it isnít fixed there wonít be much chance of being a Cup competitor at all.  Not sure what they do about that.  No more high picks to find a stud D-man.

There were of course some positives, but difficult to see those in the context of a Game 7 loss.  It is so disappointing because the Bruins were there to be taken tonight.
I'm not concerned about Matthews at all.

Unless it's revealed that he's been playing hurt I agree with BBF on Matthews.  My concerns are that we might be overrating him just a tad.  He got neutralized and the very best of the best find ways not to be.

Over the last two seasons: 5th most total goals  despite playing 10-20 fewer (<----see that herman) games than most of the guys ahead of him, most even strength goals (tied with McDavid, but 20 fewer games), 3rd highest goals per game.

He's not overrated, he's flat out amazing and is only 20 years old.

He was flat out less than amazing this series.  And he's not beyond criticism.

Let me be clear: I said he might be a tad overrated.  By that, I mean he might end up being a notch or two below, say, Crosby.  He hasn't yet shown he can dominate a playoff game, let alone a series.  That's what I hope to see from him.  But it's an open question.

If he'd turned in a Marner-level performance this series, I wouldn't have any doubts anymore.  Until he does, I will: meaning, I wonder whether he'll not quite make the level of the best of the best.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 26, 2018, 10:24:51 AM
So obviously I am disappointed in the result, but I'm not surprised.

My perspective:
The Leafs never really got firing on all cylinders, key depth vets were largely non-factors against lesser competition (Bozak-JvR), and our top offensive contributors were stymied by world class Olympic-medalling veterans. Oh yeah, our top matchup centre stupidly removed himself from the series for 3 games.

AND we still took the second best team in the East (and possibly the whole league in the second half of the season) that was really clicking to the brink and it took one period of brain farting and youthful despair to down us.

So yes, we lost, deservedly so, but we played like ass and still almost eliminated one of the best.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: TML fan on April 26, 2018, 10:38:05 AM
How much of it was the Leafs playing badly and how much of it was Boston making them look really bad?

The thing that stuck out for me the most over the course of the series was how lazy the Leafs are as a group without the puck. Boston literally never stopped skating for the entire series. I made mention of it in game 1 that I wasn't sure Boston could keep that up over the entire series. Turns out they could.

I'm only surprised by the result in that I'm shocked it went 7 games.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 26, 2018, 10:57:32 AM
Gus Katsaros has an excellent breakdown of the systems issues the Leafs faced against the Bruins, check out his twitter timeline.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Frank E on April 26, 2018, 11:04:03 AM
I wonder if any of the reporters give Babcock a grilling on his ice time distribution. It was evident pretty early on that Gardiner was struggling and Dermott was playing well yet Gardner ends up playing 24 minutes to 11 for Dermott.

Kapanen scored an amazing shorty and be played under 9 minutes??? Like c'mon some of this is on the coach for not managing his team in game

The kids from the Marlies were nice-to-haves; I agree they're generally the better option, but the coach has gone through the entire season leaning on his prime players to pretty good effect and you sort of have to bank on that. I'd like Babcock to be faster on the uptake, but that's just how I see it.

I thought Kapanen and Johnsson should've been up with the Leafs last year instead of Matt Martin and whoever so that they'd be ready to be relied upon this year, but there's also their confidence and developmental readiness to account for. Johnsson said he appreciated the extra time they afforded him with the Marlies, rather than calling him up to be the franchise saviour and yo-yoing him when he inevitably faltered a bit.

Let's note, at this point, that the real back-breaker in that series -- and in game 7 particularly -- was one Jake DeBrusk. A 21 year old rookie who average 15 min/game during the series.

I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2018, 11:05:16 AM
I don't even know why anyone would waste their breath discussing our forwards. The forwards clearly are not our problem. Defense, defense, defense, DEFENSE. How do we get better? Who do we sign/trade for?

The forwards, in some cases, could've played much better team defense. But I think that's addition by subtraction of Bozak, JVR & Komarov.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 26, 2018, 11:09:56 AM
I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with everything that Frank wrote.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Hobbes on April 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with everything that Frank wrote.

To me the series also reinforced the importance of winning draws, or at very least prevent clean opposition wins. Maybe the advanced stats say it doesn't matter, but to these eyes it sure seemed like we spent a lot of extra time in our zone and a lot less in theirs purely by our inability to start with control of the puck. I can think of 3 or 4 Boston goals that came immediately off a won draw, and far too many occasions where we had to withstand sustained pressure in our own zone after a faceoff. We paid after a number of our icings...the Bruins, rarely.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2018, 11:28:50 AM
So obviously I am disappointed in the result, but I'm not surprised.

My perspective:
The Leafs never really got firing on all cylinders, key depth vets were largely non-factors against lesser competition (Bozak-JvR), and our top offensive contributors were stymied by world class Olympic-medalling veterans. Oh yeah, our top matchup centre stupidly removed himself from the series for 3 games.

AND we still took the second best team in the East (and possibly the whole league in the second half of the season) that was really clicking to the brink and it took one period of brain farting and youthful despair to down us.

So yes, we lost, deservedly so, but we played like ass and still almost eliminated one of the best.

Yeah but do we really have to play like ass? I mean, throughout the season people were saying the Leafs were outscoring their problems, and once scoring dried up Freddy got going. We relied a lot on things that don't seem replicable to me. The team doesn't play a tight team game and got outshot and outchanced all season long and it was exposed in this series.

I get that we didn't have Kadri, and maybe to some degree that sealed it, but man... there's quite a bit of work to be done to go from where we are to the kind of team we want to be.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on April 26, 2018, 11:29:19 AM
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: azzurri63 on April 26, 2018, 11:30:05 AM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

Good. Like the kid has some good qualities but making the same mistakes as he did 5 years ago. He hasn't learned s**t. We didn't deserve to win but he made some senseless plays just giving the puck away when he had ample time to make a smart decision. The debrusk goal another blunder. The whole game looked like he was lost with and without the puck. He is also up for a new contract and honestly I wouldn't pay him anymore than what he's getting now and that would be too much for a guy I would play 10-15 minutes max. Let him go.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2018, 11:31:29 AM
I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with everything that Frank wrote.

To me the series also reinforced the importance of winning draws, or at very least prevent clean opposition wins. Maybe the advanced stats say it doesn't matter, but to these eyes it sure seemed like we spent a lot of extra time in our zone and a lot less in theirs purely by our inability to start with control of the puck. I can think of 3 or 4 Boston goals that came immediately off a won draw, and far too many occasions where we had to withstand sustained pressure in our own zone after a faceoff. We paid after a number of our icings...the Bruins, rarely.

I think the advanced stats say it doesn't matter at centre ice. But it definitely matters in the defensive zone. And I also wonder if their assumption is a 45%-55% range for each team. It felt like we were getting schooled all night long in faceoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 26, 2018, 11:57:08 AM
He is also up for a new contract and honestly I wouldn't pay him anymore than what he's getting now and that would be too much for a guy I would play 10-15 minutes max. Let him go.

6 defencemen in the entire league with 60+ GP averaged less than 15 minutes a game this season. 6. Only 1 averaged less than 14 minutes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: LuncheonMeat on April 26, 2018, 12:26:07 PM
I know you've all been waiting for my opinion, so wait no more:

1.  You play your best players when the game is on the line.  They're the ones that have earned it all year, and you count on them to get up.  DeBrusk is one of Boston's best forwards, he's a second line player that plays those minutes.  The Leafs also have players his age, and younger, that played a lot more the DeBrusk did/does.

2.  I think the Kadri suspension is where this series got decided.  That suspension really hurt the lineup.

3.  The Leafs counted on Andersen far too many times this year, and their luck ran out there.

4.  Gardiner had a bad game, oh well.  He's a 50 point defenseman this year, and one of the key guys that got this team into the playoffs.  If the Leafs could replay that period, I'm pretty sure they'd play Gardiner again in those minutes.

5.  I don't consider last night's game to be indicative of anything in particular, I'm more trying to look at the series overall.  The 7 game series did show me that Matthews and Nylander have a fair bit of work to do to earn $10-$11 mil and $6-$7 mil on my Leafs team.  Marner and Marleau played well. The newer kids played pretty darn well, all things considered.

6.  Young team, didn't get it done, not really surprised.  I'm looking forward to an interesting off-season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with everything that Frank wrote.

Do your duty and delete his post, and we'll all pretend you didn't write that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bill_Berg on April 26, 2018, 12:37:54 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 26, 2018, 12:40:01 PM
So obviously I am disappointed in the result, but I'm not surprised.

My perspective:
The Leafs never really got firing on all cylinders, key depth vets were largely non-factors against lesser competition (Bozak-JvR), and our top offensive contributors were stymied by world class Olympic-medalling veterans. Oh yeah, our top matchup centre stupidly removed himself from the series for 3 games.

AND we still took the second best team in the East (and possibly the whole league in the second half of the season) that was really clicking to the brink and it took one period of brain farting and youthful despair to down us.

So yes, we lost, deservedly so, but we played like ass and still almost eliminated one of the best.

Yeah but do we really have to play like ass? I mean, throughout the season people were saying the Leafs were outscoring their problems, and once scoring dried up Freddy got going. We relied a lot on things that don't seem replicable to me. The team doesn't play a tight team game and got outshot and outchanced all season long and it was exposed in this series.

I get that we didn't have Kadri, and maybe to some degree that sealed it, but man... there's quite a bit of work to be done to go from where we are to the kind of team we want to be.

Sometimes we play like ass. Sometimes the other team just beats you. Sometimes itís both at the same time. We had a lot of both things happening together.

I wouldíve liked to have seen more tactical adjustment. Whatís hard to say for sure is why they continued to do certain things systematically after it was neutralized. Iím guessing it was to cover over a different deficiency. Generally the right tactics with the wrong execution looks like the wrong tactics.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 26, 2018, 12:49:12 PM
Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.

The media's gonna say all kinds of crazy things for the next few weeks. I wouldn't put much stock in it, it's just baseless speculation on their part. Kypreos is trying to say that there's a rift between Matthews and Babcock.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Bill_Berg on April 26, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.

The media's gonna say all kinds of crazy things for the next few weeks. I wouldn't put much stock in it, it's just baseless speculation on their part. Kypreos is trying to say that there's a rift between Matthews and Babcock.

Ya maybe I'll just tune out for the next week or so.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 26, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

That stuff plays well because a lot Leaf fans don't like him. The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.

The reality is that Andersen was way too leaky at an inopportune time, and our young stars didn't play like Stars. I think Babcock's wonky break-outs and defensive "system" had a lot to do with it.

The Leafs were lucky game 7 was as close as it was.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 26, 2018, 01:06:59 PM
Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.

The media's gonna say all kinds of crazy things for the next few weeks. I wouldn't put much stock in it, it's just baseless speculation on their part. Kypreos is trying to say that there's a rift between Matthews and Babcock.

If I was a star being forced to play with two third/fourth liners throughout the playoffs, I wouldn't be all that happy either.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 26, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.

The media's gonna say all kinds of crazy things for the next few weeks. I wouldn't put much stock in it, it's just baseless speculation on their part. Kypreos is trying to say that there's a rift between Matthews and Babcock.

If I was a star being forced to play with two third/fourth liners throughout the playoffs, I wouldn't be all that happy either.
I don't believe there's a rift. I think the Brown/Hyman thing was about balancing all 4 line and it did work for a few games. 

I will never understand not playing your best player on the PP? Bozak? Really? Let Matthews get better at faceoffs by taking faceoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 26, 2018, 01:50:11 PM
Where did you see that? Not that I don't believe it, but I didn't see anything. Radio? I would be shocked if they traded him this off season. His value has to be low. Feels like a knee-jerk reaction.

The media's gonna say all kinds of crazy things for the next few weeks. I wouldn't put much stock in it, it's just baseless speculation on their part. Kypreos is trying to say that there's a rift between Matthews and Babcock.

If I was a star being forced to play with two third/fourth liners throughout the playoffs, I wouldn't be all that happy either.
Yup. I mean c'mon, he put Komarov on his wing for game 2. Then that doesn't work so he puts Brown there. Seriously? I've seen some Matthews bashing and while he didn't put up the numbers he wasn't as bad as some people say. Sometimes you have to look at his linemates and the opposition. He rarely plays with Reilly which is a huge mistake on Babs part. His linemates were 3rd and 4th line guys. He went up against Chara for the most part. I find it interesting that while Marner played well, Boston still put Chara up against Matthews every chance they got even with his crappy wingers. When all is said and done tho, he still lead the team in shots by 10 over 2nd place....not too bad considering all the other factors.
I don't believe there is a rift between him and Babs but I wish he would use Matthews more. He should be out for almost all of the pp and I wish he'd start using him killing penalties...Marner to.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 26, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
I don't believe there's a rift. I think the Brown/Hyman thing was about balancing all 4 line and it did work for a few games. 

I will never understand not playing your best player on the PP? Bozak? Really? Let Matthews get better at faceoffs by taking faceoffs.
That's what I don't get either. You're trying to balance out lines by penalizing your best player with two "hard workers" who lack scoring touch. Even when the Bruins were losing, the Bergeron line stayed together.
As for faceoffs..Matthews was 55% in the playoffs, the same as he was in the regular season. Going to be interesting to see if Matthews signs an extension over the summer.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: OldTimeHockey on April 26, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.
The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.



Was the defence really that bad in the first 6 games that he was the top dman? I mean, I'd say Rielly was, but that's just me. Take a look back at some of those goals scored in games 1-6. Gardiner was responsible for at least 3 that I can think of off the top of my head.

Like i've said in another thread. He's a talented player. Just not as talented as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 26, 2018, 07:23:50 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.
The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.



Was the defence really that bad in the first 6 games that he was the top dman? I mean, I'd say Rielly was, but that's just me. Take a look back at some of those goals scored in games 1-6. Gardiner was responsible for at least 3 that I can think of off the top of my head.

Like i've said in another thread. He's a talented player. Just not as talented as he thinks he is.
He's talented but I agree, I thought Reilly was our best D man all year including the playoffs. Gardiner needs to learn to stop throwing the puck away and also to grow a set. He constantly let's the other team get to the puck first. I hate that about him. He's def no Kaberle or Reilly. I also don't see the Leafs getting rid of him. 50 point D men are hard to find. The right partner could make a big difference in his game. Look at Karlsson this year. While he put up great numbers he was terrible defensively. He lost Methot as his partner.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 27, 2018, 08:21:49 AM
The fact that people will constantly call hockey the "greatest team sport in existence" but then still consistently assign blame for goals on one single individual will always baffle me.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Andy on April 27, 2018, 08:46:26 AM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

That stuff plays well because a lot Leaf fans don't like him. The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.

The reality is that Andersen was way too leaky at an inopportune time, and our young stars didn't play like Stars. I think Babcock's wonky break-outs and defensive "system" had a lot to do with it.

The Leafs were lucky game 7 was as close as it was.

I just want to say, I think you've been pretty bang on all season long with your analysis and I also couldn't agree more with this (and your following) post. It's almost as if Babcock is trying to handicap his team. I genuinely feel that this core is so much better than the way they've been playing.

I think trading in Komarov's 16 minutes of ice time per game and Bozak/JVR's atrocious even-strength play for the (increased) likes of Johnsson and Kapanen will be a big boost.

And giving some of these young superstars more minutes certainly can't hurt.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Nik Bethune on April 27, 2018, 11:50:24 AM
Leafs don't strike any fear in anyone. Nylander for sure as stated played the Kessel of years past going into the corners.

Yup. And if there's one thing we can say definitively it's that having someone play like Kessel won't help win a team win a cup. Or two cups.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: cabber24 on April 27, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
Leafs don't strike any fear in anyone. Nylander for sure as stated played the Kessel of years past going into the corners.

Yup. And if there's one thing we can say definitively it's that having someone play like Kessel won't help win a team win a cup. Or two cups.
I am not least concerned about being "soft". Scare them on the score board. The projectory of our forwards is scary for our opponents.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: CarltonTheBear on April 27, 2018, 12:26:01 PM
Nylander didn't have a great series but it had nothing to do with him being soft.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: herman on April 27, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
Nylander didn't have a great series but it had nothing to do with him being soft.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Arn on April 27, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
I think this "being soft" thing is a load of balls. I think the side showed a huge amount of heart and grit even dragging the series to 7 games. Even more so after being pretty much down and out after a couple of games.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 27, 2018, 02:39:00 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

That stuff plays well because a lot Leaf fans don't like him. The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.

The reality is that Andersen was way too leaky at an inopportune time, and our young stars didn't play like Stars. I think Babcock's wonky break-outs and defensive "system" had a lot to do with it.

The Leafs were lucky game 7 was as close as it was.

I just want to say, I think you've been pretty bang on all season long with your analysis and I also couldn't agree more with this (and your following) post. It's almost as if Babcock is trying to handicap his team. I genuinely feel that this core is so much better than the way they've been playing.

I think trading in Komarov's 16 minutes of ice time per game and Bozak/JVR's atrocious even-strength play for the (increased) likes of Johnsson and Kapanen will be a big boost.

And giving some of these young superstars more minutes certainly can't hurt.

Agreed re Komarov. A lot of people underestimate the impact that one relatively terrible player (even a fourth liner) can have on a team, particularly when he plays a central role on special teams.

I think a full year of Johnsson plus a revamped breakout system that isn't as reliant on the stretch pass/dump-out  could take the Leafs to the next level.

Also Matthews and Hyman may, at some point, have to break up.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Strangelove on April 27, 2018, 02:40:34 PM
I think this "being soft" thing is a load of balls. I think the side showed a huge amount of heart and grit even dragging the series to 7 games. Even more so after being pretty much down and out after a couple of games.

Their biggest problem wasn't softness, it was their inability to leave their own zone with control of the puck.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2018, 03:56:08 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

That stuff plays well because a lot Leaf fans don't like him. The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.

The reality is that Andersen was way too leaky at an inopportune time, and our young stars didn't play like Stars. I think Babcock's wonky break-outs and defensive "system" had a lot to do with it.

The Leafs were lucky game 7 was as close as it was.

I just want to say, I think you've been pretty bang on all season long with your analysis and I also couldn't agree more with this (and your following) post. It's almost as if Babcock is trying to handicap his team. I genuinely feel that this core is so much better than the way they've been playing.

I think trading in Komarov's 16 minutes of ice time per game and Bozak/JVR's atrocious even-strength play for the (increased) likes of Johnsson and Kapanen will be a big boost.

And giving some of these young superstars more minutes certainly can't hurt.

Agreed re Komarov. A lot of people underestimate the impact that one relatively terrible player (even a fourth liner) can have on a team, particularly when he plays a central role on special teams.

I think a full year of Johnsson plus a revamped breakout system that isn't as reliant on the stretch pass/dump-out  could take the Leafs to the next level.

Also Matthews and Hyman may, at some point, have to break up.
Def agree. The difference when Babs moved Leo off the Kadri line was a huge turning point in his season. Remember he only scored 1 in 20 games and had like 2 points or something crazy like that. Then when with Komarov out and off the 4th line. All of a sudden with Johnsson on it the line was alive and crazy fast and was actually to a point where we could run 4 lines without worry. When Leo came back, the line was worse. That's why I'm so baffled with Babs sometimes. He's not stupid but it was obvious to most of us watching that Leo was done, like Martin, and then Babs puts him with Matthews in game 2. Like does that make any sense to anyone here? Same as Brown and Hyman with him. And we wonder why Matthews can't score?
I agree with Strange here, at some point Hyman needs to be off this line to.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Frank E on April 27, 2018, 04:30:10 PM
Anybody do the math on the 4th line productivity pre-Plekanec and Johnsson vs. post?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 25th, 7:30pm - CBC, TSN 1050
Post by: Andy on April 27, 2018, 04:43:33 PM
The media is saying that Gardiner may have played his last game as a leaf.

That stuff plays well because a lot Leaf fans don't like him. The fact that he was probably their best defencemen in the second half of the season and in the first 6 games of the playoffs is easily forgotten.

The reality is that Andersen was way too leaky at an inopportune time, and our young stars didn't play like Stars. I think Babcock's wonky break-outs and defensive "system" had a lot to do with it.

The Leafs were lucky game 7 was as close as it was.

I just want to say, I think you've been pretty bang on all season long with your analysis and I also couldn't agree more with this (and your following) post. It's almost as if Babcock is trying to handicap his team. I genuinely feel that this core is so much better than the way they've been playing.

I think trading in Komarov's 16 minutes of ice time per game and Bozak/JVR's atrocious even-strength play for the (increased) likes of Johnsson and Kapanen will be a big boost.

And giving some of these young superstars more minutes certainly can't hurt.

Agreed re Komarov. A lot of people underestimate the impact that one relatively terrible player (even a fourth liner) can have on a team, particularly when he plays a central role on special teams.

I think a full year of Johnsson plus a revamped breakout system that isn't as reliant on the stretch pass/dump-out  could take the Leafs to the next level.

Also Matthews and Hyman may, at some point, have to break up.
Def agree. The difference when Babs moved Leo off the Kadri line was a huge turning point in his season. Remember he only scored 1 in 20 games and had like 2 points or something crazy like that. Then when with Komarov out and off the 4th line. All of a sudden with Johnsson on it the line was alive and crazy fast and was actually to a point where we could run 4 lines without worry. When Leo came back, the line was worse. That's why I'm so baffled with Babs sometimes. He's not stupid but it was obvious to most of us watching that Leo was done, like Martin, and then Babs puts him with Matthews in game 2. Like does that make any sense to anyone here? Same as Brown and Hyman with him. And we wonder why Matthews can't score?
I agree with Strange here, at some point Hyman needs to be off this line to.

Completely agree. What say you, I and Strangelove get out of here for a bit....  ;)