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Title: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
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20-12-1, 41 points | 11-13-7, 29 points

Projected Lines

Hyman-Marleau-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Brown
Martin-Moore-Leivo

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Borgman-Polak

McElhinney
             
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Abdelkader
Tatar-Larkin-Mantha
Helm-Nielsen-Glendening
Witkowski-Athanasiou-Frk

DeKeyser-Green
Ericsson-Daley
Kronwall-Jensen

Howard

Scratches

Connor Carrick
Kasperi Kapanen
Auston Matthews
      
David Booth
Xaxier Ouellet

Game Notes

TOR
•McElhinney (3-2-0, 2.44 GAA, .925 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
•The Leafs played a game last night where everything went great if you ignore the fact that they were shutout, went 0-4 on the powerplay, managed only 6 shots on net in the first half of the game, and had their top line get decimated in possession
•Noted failed crease-clearer Roman Polak is set to play in his 10th straight game this season, unless of course Babcock suddenly remembers that Connor Carrick exists

DET
•Jimmy "Jim" Howard (9-9-6, 2.91 GAA, .906 Sv%) will likely start for the Red Wings
•The Red Wings have exceeded all expectations this year and with a rag-tag group of players led by player-coach Henrik Zetterberg, highly rated prospects Larkin and Mantha, and Olympian Niklas Kronwall, they're making a serious run for a playoff berth
•Haha, just kidding, they suck. They have 1 win in their last 11 games

Injuries

•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely
•Nikita Soshnikov - "Groin" - "Injured" Reserve
•Auston Matthews - Hand/Concussion/Back - Day to day
      
                                                                                 

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Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: louisstamos on December 15, 2017, 09:34:51 AM
Considering how little jump they had last night, I really wouldn't mind seeing Carrick and Kapanen get into the lineup - just to have fresh legs...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on December 15, 2017, 09:45:55 AM
David Booth is still in the NHL?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 10:13:54 AM
Considering how little jump they had last night, I really wouldn't mind seeing Carrick and Kapanen get into the lineup - just to have fresh legs...

I'd like to see Gardiner-Carrick reunited, and put Zaitsev with Borgman. Gardiner-Zaitsev started the season off strong and I had really high hopes that Z was gonna take a step forward but that pairing has had a lot of rough games in the past month.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Strangelove on December 15, 2017, 10:39:32 AM
Considering how little jump they had last night, I really wouldn't mind seeing Carrick and Kapanen get into the lineup - just to have fresh legs...

I'd like to see Gardiner-Carrick reunited, and put Zaitsev with Borgman. Gardiner-Zaitsev started the season off strong and I had really high hopes that Z was gonna take a step forward but that pairing has had a lot of rough games in the past month.

Agreed. Zaitsev seems to be having a lot of positional issues and is putting his partner in a lot of tough spots. Reminds me of last year, when Zaitsev was paired with Rielly and the two were completely out of whack.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 11:05:48 AM
Considering how little jump they had last night, I really wouldn't mind seeing Carrick and Kapanen get into the lineup - just to have fresh legs...

I'd like to see Gardiner-Carrick reunited, and put Zaitsev with Borgman. Gardiner-Zaitsev started the season off strong and I had really high hopes that Z was gonna take a step forward but that pairing has had a lot of rough games in the past month.

Agreed. Zaitsev seems to be having a lot of positional issues and is putting his partner in a lot of tough spots. Reminds me of last year, when Zaitsev was paired with Rielly and the two were completely out of whack.

That's my preference as well. I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

Zaitsev's issues aren't so much positioning issues as they are decision-making issues. He has a good deal of trouble whenever Gardiner or Rielly get creative (communication? Zaitsev's English is fine, so maybe the slang?).
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 11:11:43 AM
I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

If only we had a left-handed defenceman with 5+ years of North American professional hockey experience somewhere in the organization. You know, like somebody with complimentary skills to Zaitsev (who seems to struggle defending zone entries) and maybe someone who even played with Z last season and put up a 56.1% CF with him in over 100 minutes of ice-time. Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 15, 2017, 11:16:17 AM
I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

If only we had a left-handed defenceman with 5+ years of North American professional hockey experience somewhere in the organization. You know, like somebody with complimentary skills to Zaitsev (who seems to struggle with zone entries) and maybe someone who even played with Z last season and put up a 56.1% CF with him in over 100 minutes of ice-time. Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

It’s Polak, isn’t it!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 11:22:03 AM
I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

If only we had a left-handed defenceman with 5+ years of North American professional hockey experience somewhere in the organization. You know, like somebody with complimentary skills to Zaitsev (who seems to struggle with zone entries) and maybe someone who even played with Z last season and put up a 56.1% CF with him in over 100 minutes of ice-time. Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

It’s Polak, isn’t it!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

(Also, I clicked modify on your post by accident to fix a typo in mine)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 11:45:03 AM
I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

If only we had a left-handed defenceman with 5+ years of North American professional hockey experience somewhere in the organization. You know, like somebody with complementary skills to Zaitsev (who seems to struggle defending zone entries) and maybe someone who even played with Z last season and put up a 56.1% CF with him in over 100 minutes of ice-time. Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

That's what I want.

Edit: I edited your quoted post.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 15, 2017, 11:53:24 AM
I doubt Babcock does it because he doesn't want a rookie with Zaitsev (who he is sort of treating as a development project).

If only we had a left-handed defenceman with 5+ years of North American professional hockey experience somewhere in the organization. You know, like somebody with complementary skills to Zaitsev (who seems to struggle defending zone entries) and maybe someone who even played with Z last season and put up a 56.1% CF with him in over 100 minutes of ice-time. Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

That's what I want.

Edit: I edited your quoted post.

They let Hunwick walk and now it's come back to bite them squarely in the glutes.  I tried to tell them but noooooooo did they listen?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
They let Hunwick walk and now it's come back to bite them squarely in the glutes.  I tried to tell them but noooooooo did they listen?

Babcock actually wanted Hunwick back, but his Hunny left for that extra year on the contract.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: disco on December 15, 2017, 12:33:32 PM
GO LEAFS GO

pleasepleasepleasegetbackto100%AM34
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
The loss last night was tough to watch but at least the Wild are a decent team.

Here's hoping they don't put up another stinking goose egg tonight!

GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on December 15, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
I just don't want to see the Leafs tumble down the standings.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on December 15, 2017, 02:32:17 PM
I just don't want to see the Leafs tumble down the standings.

Then don't watch.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on December 15, 2017, 02:44:15 PM
I just don't want to see the Leafs tumble down the standings.

Then don't watch.

:-).  I feel like you want me to elaborate.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 07:43:37 PM
UNLESS THE BORG!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 07:44:03 PM
Borgman or Kapanen scores!  1-0 Leafs.

No shutout for the Wings tonight!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 07:54:26 PM
KDAP
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 07:57:18 PM
Another squandered PP!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2017, 08:00:31 PM
KDAP

What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 08:00:56 PM
KDAP

What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
KDAP

What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!

Try this one:

WIKOTPP
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2017, 08:04:17 PM
KDAP
What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!

Oh. Ok.  My friend says thank you very much. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
KDAP

What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!

Try this one:

WIKOTPP

Why is Komarov on the power play
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
KDAP

What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!

Try this one:

WIKOTPP

Why is Komarov on the power play

Good question!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 08:11:59 PM
That shot by Nylander was a "high danger" chance because of where it was from I'm pretty sure and Howard literally didn't have to move to make the save.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 08:13:05 PM
KDAP



What does this mean?  Asking for a friend.....

Kadri draws a penalty!

Try this one:

WIKOTPP

Why is Komarov on the power play

Honestly wonder what goes through Babcock's head at times. I think he feels a lot of these guys are gifted offensively.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
Is Leivo hurt? Or just Babcocked?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 08:18:44 PM
I like Leivo but I don't think he can be very effective on a line with Moore and Martin. Kapanen's a much better fit for how they played. It showed when he played with Boyle and Martin last season too.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
I legit laughed out loud watching Polak try to defend there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 08:40:26 PM
Crap!!!  Game tied 1-1!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
Martin with the smart play.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: herman on December 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
Is Leivo hurt? Or just Babcocked?

Back to back. Justin Bourne also tweeted that Babcock actually doesn’t like Leivo as a player (for some reason) so there’s that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on December 15, 2017, 08:47:10 PM
I legit laughed out loud watching Polak try to defend there.
I don't know where the hell he was trying to go! He just flew right out of the play.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Hobbes on December 15, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
Kapanen looked lost defensively in that extended shift in the Leafs' zone and lost his check twice. The first one was that point blank opportunity and the 2nd was a very lucky bounce or it would have been another 10-bell chance. His offensive speed is amazing but he's going to have a tough time making the lineup if he can't execute his assignments in the D-zone.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 08:53:45 PM
We suck again!  2 sucks to 1 we rule!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on December 15, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
Sad looking PP we have these days.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 08:56:06 PM
Jesus if your not going to battle for the puck on the PP get off the ice. Marner has done a complete reversal from last year. Making stupid plays and giving the puck away. Almost like he's nervous every time he has it. Bozak and JVR f'n weak without the puck. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 15, 2017, 08:59:24 PM
What was this stuff about Babcock liking a lot about the game with Minny?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on December 15, 2017, 09:00:10 PM
We stink btw


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 09:02:26 PM
What was this stuff about Babcock liking a lot about the game with Minny?

I missed last nights game but judging by most comments and a dozen shots after 2 periods don't know what he's watching when he said they played pretty well. Maybe for 1 period Mike when Minny probably sat back.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 15, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Jesus if your not going to battle for the puck on the PP get off the ice. Marner has done a complete reversal from last year. Making stupid plays and giving the puck away. Almost like he's nervous every time he has it. Bozak and JVR f'n weak without the puck.

Babs has done a pretty good job emasculating Marner and Nylander. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
What was this stuff about Babcock liking a lot about the game with Minny?

Someone behind the bench overheard Babcock say that the Leafs are playing the greatest game of hockey ever played tonight.

True story.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 15, 2017, 09:09:33 PM
Nice that they decided to take some shots on goal there in the last 45 seconds.   ::)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 09:18:12 PM
Nice that they decided to take some shots on goal there in the last 45 seconds.   ::)

As always, too little too late!  They'll do the same thing in the 3rd period!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
I guess we just have to wait for the World Juniors to see exciting hockey again!

Babcock hockey sucks!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 09:34:55 PM
Wow, that was one of the most goal like non goals I've seen in a while. Off the crossbar and post and back out. Lucky its not 3-1.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 15, 2017, 09:35:57 PM
The 4th line has been our best tonight and it isn't even close. That's a good thing and a bad thing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 09:37:15 PM
This game reminds me of when Matt Stajan was the number one centre. What has happened to the skill?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Chris on December 15, 2017, 09:39:35 PM
The 4th line has been our best tonight and it isn't even close. That's a good thing and a bad thing.
They play hard. The other lines, not so much. They actually forecheck and win puck battles and skate with urgency. Really, it's the only line that seems capable of playing the "style" Babcock is imposing on the team.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Man we've taken some stupid penalties tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on December 15, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
We stink dudes


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Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: lamajama on December 15, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
This team looks like a bunch of guys thrown together at the last minute.

Unwatchable.

And now Wings score ::)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on December 15, 2017, 09:47:07 PM
We suck so much again!  3 sucks to 1 we rule!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on December 15, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Cuthbert and Ferraro shut up. Talking about how Matthews drives the bus with Leafs lack of scoring lately. When the team won their first 5 games without Auston everything was good. Leafs scoring was down even with Auston in the lineup before he got hurt. He wasn't doing much before his recent injury. All boils down to the idiot behind the bench who has managed to F up this team with his coaching deficiencies. When he signed I thought great we'll get a good coach and who cares what they pay him. Boy was I wrong. Like I said couple weeks ago hopefully we see a cup win as you never know what can happen in this league. Look at Ottawa one goal away from the finals. If we don't manage to get one soon going to be painful watching him behind the bench for another 5 years or so. Honestly don't know what Shanahan and Lou actually see and think of all this. Something has to give. Anyway have had enough tonight. Take care everyone have a great weekend.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 15, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
Cuthbert and Ferraro shut up. Talking about how Matthews drives the bus with Leafs lack of scoring lately. When the team won their first 5 games without Auston everything was good. Leafs scoring was down even with Auston in the lineup before he got hurt. He wasn't doing much before his recent injury. All boils down to the idiot behind the bench who has managed to F up this team with his coaching deficiencies. When he signed I thought great we'll get a good coach and who cares what they pay him. Boy was I wrong. Like I said couple weeks ago hopefully we see a cup win as you never know what can happen in this league. Look at Ottawa one goal away from the finals. If we don't manage to get one soon going to be painful watching him behind the bench for another 5 years or so. Honestly don't know what Shanahan and Lou actually see and think of all this. Something has to give. Anyway have had enough tonight. Take care everyone have a great weekend.

I don't blame you, man.  Getting owned by a bad Wings team is pretty ugly.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
I guess you have to expect a loss on the second game of a back to back, but man, this one doesn't feel good. The last few games don't feel good...

Hopefully this is one of those games we look back on in June as a low point.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Strangelove on December 15, 2017, 10:14:00 PM
Well that was a nightmare. Looking forward to Babcock waxing poetical about how they lost “the right way”.

Also looking forward to Komarov leading all forwards in icetime again next game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown Connor Brown on December 15, 2017, 10:25:36 PM
"Go home and have a day off"

Fair enough Mike, fair enough
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: freer on December 16, 2017, 12:16:17 AM
we need to get the players to shot the effin puck. Marner, and Nylander are trying to be too pretty, it is time to just throw the darn puck at the net...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 16, 2017, 02:18:56 AM
Ugh, just got home from the game.

1) The new Detroit arena is really nice.   It doesn’t quite sit on the rink like the old Joe but still feels really intimate.

2) For a new arena the stands were EMPTY.  Half the crowd was Leafs fans and far too many empty seats.

3) Polak is really bad.  His positioning is just strange at times.  How he didn’t get a penalty for roughing in the second period is beyond me.  I like that he tried to defend his teammate but he went AWOL and got away with it.

4) The dump in game needs to stop.  The leafs are bad at puck retrieval and there is no momentum from anything they are doing

5) The 4th line was really good.  If Martin was capable of knowing how to position his body on the ice he would be a 30 point player on the 4th line but the reality is that he can’t. 

6) Kapanen is fast.  He should be in the lineup on the regular

7) Poor Carrick
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 16, 2017, 09:35:06 AM
Rielly had a 61.9% CF last night. Hainsey was at 36%. They... they were partners...

There's a few others things that are of higher important probably that could be addressed right now, but it's becoming pretty clear that Hainsey isn't cutting anymore on that top pairing. He looked really good for the first little bit and that's great, but he's been trending downhill for awhile now.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on December 16, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Not sure why Kapanen didn't get any powerplay ice-time last night. Komarov got equal minutes to everyone else and he hasn't recorded a PP point since the 2nd game of the season. Brown and Marleau have been equally bad if not worse as they have just 1 and 2 points PP points respectively this season despite getting a lot more minutes.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: L K on December 16, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
Not sure why Kapanen didn't get any powerplay ice-time last night. Komarov got equal minutes to everyone else and he hasn't recorded a PP point since the 2nd game of the season. Brown and Marleau have been equally bad if not worse as they have just 1 and 2 points PP points respectively this season despite getting a lot more minutes.

It’s interesting how short a hook he has for rookies and inexperienced players meanwhile the veteran brigade get to make some awful decisions. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: caveman on December 16, 2017, 12:55:34 PM
Gardiner and Marner were giveaway machines last night..those cute behind the back passes in your own end probably not the best idea...maybe Babcock feels this game plan will prepare the team for playoff hockey but these players don't seem suited to it...turn those speedsters loose Mikey !!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Red Wings - Dec. 15th, 7:30pm - TSN4, Fan 590
Post by: OldTimeHockey on December 16, 2017, 01:03:12 PM
I don't know that last nights game can be laid at the feet of anybody but the players. That effort was downright awful. They had no fight of any sort.