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Title: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 10, 2017, 10:52:35 PM
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2-0-0, 4 points | 3-0-0, 6 points

Projected Lines

Hall-Zacha-Bratt
Johansson-Hischier-Hayes
Wood-Henrique-Palmieri
Gibbons-Coleman-Noesen

Greene-Severson
Moore-Butcher
Mueller-Santini

Schneider
             
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Komarov
Martin-Moore-Brown

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Borgman-Rosen

Andersen

Scratches

Drew Stafford
Ben Lovejoy
Dalton Prout
      
Eric Fehr
Josh Leivo
Connor Carrick

Game Notes

NJ
•Cory Schneider (2-0-0, 1.50 GAA, .955 Sv%) will likely start for the Devils
•The Devils are off to a bit of a surprising start, going 2-0 and having 10 GF and 3 GA in the process. Although their wins came against Colorado and Buffalo, so they haven't been tested much yet
•19-year old rookie Jesper Bratt, a 6th round pick by the Devils in 2016, is leading the way with 5 points in New Jersey's 2 games
•The 1st overall draft pick in 2017, Nico Hischier, has 1 assist in his first 2 games but is still looking for his first NHL goal
•Brian Boyle, who was diagnosed with Chronic Myeloid Leukemia last month, has not suited up for the Devils yet this season, but he is making progress

TOR
•Andersen (3-0-0, 3.28 GAA, .892 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
•Sounds like Carrick will sit again because of an upper-body injury, while Moore goes back in for Fehr

Injuries

•Kyle Palmieri - Knee - Questionable Wednesday
•Drew Stafford - Lower Body - Doubtful Wednesday
•Travis Zajac - Pectoral - Injured Reserve
•Michael McLeod - Knee - Injured Reserve
      
•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely
•Connor Carrick - Upper Body - Out Wednesday

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 05:54:23 AM
Ugh. Can they not move the mid-week face offs back to 7pm for us overseas viewers?

I fear we're due a blip bad game. I hope it isn't this one.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WAYNEINIONA on October 11, 2017, 07:18:28 AM
 It will be interesting to see how we handle the trap.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Kaberle15 on October 11, 2017, 09:18:04 AM
Leafs by 2, Go Leafs Go!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: princedpw on October 11, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
It will be interesting to see how we handle the trap.

Can Nylander really be trapped?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
Kind of surprised to see them trounce both teams. Hopefully we can solve Schneider and keep the streak going.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: lamajama on October 11, 2017, 10:32:56 AM
Ugh. Can they not move the mid-week face offs back to 7pm for us overseas viewers?

I fear we're due a blip bad game. I hope it isn't this one.

I just read a few days ago that all Leaf home games this year were a 7 PM start....so much for that report...
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 11, 2017, 11:11:51 AM
I saw the (somewhat shorthanded) Devils dismantle a hapless Sabres squad. They're pretty fun (no defense!) and Jesper Bratt is certainly someone to watch out for.

I will sadly be missing most of this game.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Frank E on October 11, 2017, 11:18:10 AM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(

Absolutely unacceptable statement. 

Snap out of it.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 11, 2017, 11:26:08 AM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(

Just do what I did, move to this side of the pond. ;)
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 11, 2017, 11:28:23 AM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(

Just do what I did, move to this side of the pond. ;)

Maybe target farther north though.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 11, 2017, 11:29:24 AM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(

Just do what I did, move to this side of the pond. ;)

Maybe target farther north though.

This guy, this guy is correct.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: disco on October 11, 2017, 11:35:11 AM
LEAFSGAMETONITEYEAHHHHHBOYEEEEEE
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: nutman on October 11, 2017, 01:33:14 PM
I hope we put it to them.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown on October 11, 2017, 03:13:11 PM
Let's make it 4-0

GO LEAFS GO!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 03:38:25 PM
The annoying thing about it was that even the 7pm starts it's about 7.15 before they start after all the pre-game faff and presentations and all that, so 7.30 tends to be approaching 1am our time before it gets going.

I'm getting old now to the point I might have to cut down to weekend games only cos I can't do being tired the next day any more  :'(

Just do what I did, move to this side of the pond. ;)

Haha I would love to! Maybe some day... for now I'll have to stick to visiting every couple of years to take in a game and having the worst sleeping patterns

Maybe I can nap from 10pm til midnight and set an alarm for the start of the game
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Kaberle15 on October 11, 2017, 04:00:30 PM
Maybe I can nap from 10pm til midnight and set an alarm for the start of the game

Flashback of my life before they moved to the Eastern Conference...
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 07:16:31 PM
Ok I made it this far, but if anyone has a link to watch on the likes of YouTube I would be very grateful ;D
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 11, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
Check your pm's.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 07:26:32 PM
This is why I love you all!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
Stuffs it home van Riemsdyk.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 07:58:46 PM
James Van Roofsdyk
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 07:58:56 PM
JVRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
Well that didn't last long.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Hmmm tied.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 08:00:31 PM
Deflected off the block attempt.  Tough one for Andersen to get.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
Watch Martin on that shift. It's hilarious.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
Ugly.  VERY ugly.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:03:11 PM
Hey, the Devils aren't your Devils anymore.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 08:03:53 PM
Well Rosen will be a bit disappointed with that
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:04:24 PM
Thank god we don't have Marincin making brain cramps that lead to goals anymore.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
Well Rosen will be a bit disappointed with that

I read that in John Motson's voice.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on October 11, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
Rosen literally handed him the puck
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 08:07:15 PM
Between Rosen and Borgman, Rosen seems kind of meh to me at this point.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 08:08:16 PM
Woooooo go Martin yeahhhhh
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
Moore tippy tippy
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2017, 08:10:36 PM
So Fehr is in next game right?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
My mancrush on Zaitsev is growing at an alarming rate
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Woooooo go Martin yeahhhhh

Actually drew the penalty that led to that 2nd goal so yeah!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:12:47 PM
My mancrush on Zaitsev is growing at an alarming rate

Yeah, that looked like he was intentionally trying to set up the tip.  He's looked really good so far.

And (unrelated to the Moore goal) Matthews is just amazing at getting the puck off guys and then keeping it.  Uncanny.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:23:17 PM
Why DO skates have stick-sized holes in them?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 08:27:08 PM
I noticed that little phone-booth sequence from Nylander when it happened, and glad Elliotte called it out.  Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
I noticed that little phone-booth sequence from Nylander when it happened, and glad Elliotte called it out.  Amazing stuff.

Yup. It's not just having the skill to pull that off but the confidence too. Few players have both.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:31:51 PM
Darren Millard reliving the legendary night that was the 2017 draft lottery.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 08:35:18 PM
He just said:

"I don't want to be something special.  I just want to be the same old Nico"

I have a problem with referring to himself in the third person.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 08:36:01 PM
Why DO skates have stick-sized holes in them?

Lighter and less air resistance.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: disco on October 11, 2017, 08:40:50 PM
He just said:

"I don't want to be something special.  I just want to be the same old Nico"

I have a problem with referring to himself in the third person.

The Nico thinks you should explain yourself. Do you really believe tha-IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!" - The Nico
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 08:45:25 PM
He just said:

"I don't want to be something special.  I just want to be the same old Nico"

I have a problem with referring to himself in the third person.

The Nico thinks you should explain yourself. Do you really believe tha-IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!" - The Nico

It would have been worse if he used his nickname.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
Palmeiri pulled Gardiner's stick in under his own legs there
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 08:50:23 PM
So Henrique runs into Andersen and knocks his stick into the corner and that isn't interference?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on October 11, 2017, 08:52:19 PM
So Henrique runs into Andersen and knocks his stick into the corner and that isn't interference?
Yeah that was BS
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 08:54:07 PM
All Devils right now!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on October 11, 2017, 08:55:27 PM
Rielly is starting to bother me. Gardiner gives him the puck in a good place and he lazily turns it over at the blue line
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 08:56:12 PM
So Henrique runs into Andersen and knocks his stick into the corner and that isn't interference?

Incidental contact... unless a Leaf does it, then it's goalie interference!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 08:59:05 PM
This slashing stuff is fascinating. It's such a weird thing that's been accepted for so long players are having a very hard time adjusting. JVR's there wasn't vicious but it served basically no point.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 09:00:22 PM
Way to go JvR!  You know they're calling slashes!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
Rielly what the hell is that

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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on October 11, 2017, 09:01:40 PM
We stink btw


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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 09:01:58 PM
Rielly what the hell is that

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Borgman was basically letting the Devils pass around him too.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:08:52 PM
Borgman....ummmm maybe it's time to stop playing the rookie defensemen together?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
Rosen saves the day there.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 09:10:04 PM
Our Swedish D pair have certainly had an interesting evening
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
Oh for Christ's SAKE.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:13:37 PM
Wow, what the hell Leafs?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
FFS!   Brutal!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:15:31 PM
The Leafs PP has good puck movement...they go to 5 on 3 and stand around with slow perimeter passes.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
Well that sucked.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 09:15:50 PM
Our D is just brutal


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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 11, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
I should've gone to sleep
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:17:26 PM
They totally deserve to lose this.  Schneider has been great.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 09:20:02 PM
I mean Gardiner should have absolutely checked over his shoulder, but it's pretty surprising to see a defenceman following up that rush when you're two men down.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 11, 2017, 09:20:38 PM
Leafs PP seemed to set up in an entirely different format for the 5-on-3. Weird.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:22:31 PM
Andersen with an .878 SV%
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:23:24 PM
I mean Gardiner should have absolutely checked over his shoulder, but it's pretty surprising to see a defenceman following up that rush when you're two men down.

There's just no way you can allow that to happen.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on October 11, 2017, 09:23:27 PM
Gardiner looking like the old Gardiner. Read on another site someone posting him going to be making 8 million per next contract. Really what a joke. No idea what he's thinking at times.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
He's had a rough start to the year.

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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Downtown on October 11, 2017, 09:28:14 PM
Haven't been impressed with Andersen tonight. Lots of sloppy plays with the puck and big juicy rebounds.

Devil's are definitely the better team through two.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:30:36 PM
Well, in years past there'd be no point in even watching the 3rd.  Now ... I'll stay tuned.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on October 11, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Well, in years past there'd be no point in even watching the 3rd.  Now ... I'll stay tuned.

Exactly
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on October 11, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
Man that 5 on 3 was embarrassing. Hope the Leafs have another comeback in them, but it's not looking good. Team seems so flat tonight.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 09:36:41 PM
Man that 5 on 3 was embarrassing. Hope the Leafs have another comeback in them, but it's not looking good. Team seems so flat tonight.

Perhaps a let down after the Chicago game, coupled with not taking New Jersey seriously.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:46:40 PM
Maybe Andersen could try stopping the puck?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Not a great goal there by Andersen.

EDIT; Nope, my bad, I didn't see the redirect.

EDIT; Nope, I was right the first time.  :P
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:47:22 PM
Yeah Millen, that wasn't redirected.  It was just a terrible goal.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 11, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
Take a seat Rosen, not to punish him, but that's two goals directly on him and it looks like his confidence is shot.

I don't recall Marincin having two of those in one game and we crucified him for his occasional brain fart.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 09:49:39 PM
Well, they weren't going to go undefeated.   :(
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 09:50:18 PM
Andersens been fighting the puck all week.

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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: azzurri63 on October 11, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
Not a great goal there by Andersen.

Thing with him and it was the same last year I find he's either hot or cold. I'd be pulling him, why leave him in. but why is a guy standing in front of the net. Borgmann letting the guy screen get him out of there.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zee on October 11, 2017, 09:50:24 PM
That's a wrap. Andersen back to October 2016 Freddie.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: L K on October 11, 2017, 09:51:21 PM
Since the 3rd period against Winnipeg Andersen has a .831 SV%
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:53:54 PM
Andersen hasn't been good tonight but previously he was better than his (admittedly lousy) sv%.

And really, he didn't give up that shorty.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 09:54:41 PM
Not a great goal there by Andersen.

Thing with him and it was the same last year I find he's either hot or cold. I'd be pulling him, why leave him in. but why is a guy standing in front of the net. Borgmann letting the guy screen get him out of there.

Yeah, the D has been exposed pretty good tonight.  Pairing the rookies probably not the best idea as well.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 09:55:52 PM
Switch goalies between teams, and what's the outcome?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on October 11, 2017, 09:58:26 PM
Switch goalies between teams, and what's the outcome?

Rosen gave up two goals and they gave up a 3 on 5, all of which weren't Andersen's fault, pinning this on him isn't right.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 10:01:41 PM
And as Millen said, give NJ credit.  They have been by far the better team, and not just Schneider.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2017, 10:06:46 PM
OH NO! Decline! Decline!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 10:08:02 PM
That;s more like it.  Great pass from 29.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 10:11:32 PM
I think Nylander's my MotM choice -- so far. 

Rielly has really been skating well too IMO.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 10:15:33 PM
Switch goalies between teams, and what's the outcome?

Rosen gave up two goals and they gave up a 3 on 5, all of which weren't Andersen's fault, pinning this on him isn't right.

So that's probably the answer then.  When goaltending starts to get questioned, sometimes it helps to ask that question.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on October 11, 2017, 10:16:11 PM
Aaaaand that's a wrap.  Full marks to NJ.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 10:17:26 PM
I understand they had to lose, but this is one hell of a way to lose. Blech.

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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: barney_rebel on October 11, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
We stink BTW...
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 10:19:14 PM
Wasn't there night.  50 shots on net, only three goals, not much you can do about that.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bender on October 11, 2017, 10:22:21 PM
Wasn't there night.  50 shots on net, only three goals, not much you can do about that.
You can play a better defensive game lol

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Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 11, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
I feel like this is my fault.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
I feel like this is my fault.

Because you didn't fight hard enough for the Leafs to keep Seth?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Al14 on October 11, 2017, 10:37:26 PM
Well, as long as they beat the Habs, I'll forgive this game!
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 11, 2017, 11:08:21 PM
I feel like this is my fault.

Because you didn't fight hard enough for the Leafs to keep Seth?

If I had Twitter, I would've begged Shanahan to step in for Seth. But I didn't, and now he is gone.

Game 1: my stream froze in the third and I got back on to see we gave up a lack-of-focus goal in a blowout
Game 2: didn't get to watch until partway through the third, when the Leafs put the dagger into the comeback
Game 3: missed the first, when we were down 2, but saw the Zaitsev goal. Then the stream cut out again and I got back on to see we had given up the Panik gift. Kept watching to see the comeback bring playoff noise back to the Hanger for the regular season.
Game 4: missed it completely. But I see we gave up a 3-on-5 goal.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 11, 2017, 11:12:54 PM
Wasn't there night.  50 shots on net, only three goals, not much you can do about that.
You can play a better defensive game lol

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True, but I kind of feel like some of that was the Devils just capitalizing on their chances, and the Leafs not being able to, sort of like the Leafs first game against the Jets, only in reverse.  The 5 on 3 wasn't really something that happens every day, so for that one it was just one bad play after another that resulted in a goal.  I mean, Nylander literally shoots it on his own net.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 12, 2017, 04:20:02 AM
Oh well, no harm in a little reality check. And the Devils were actually very, very good too. They've added  some very good yougn talent to that roster.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 12, 2017, 08:22:15 AM
Well, can't win them all. I guess we'll have to go 81-1-0 instead.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 12, 2017, 08:41:15 AM
Well, can't win them all. I guess we'll have to go 81-1-0 instead.

Takes the pressure off, if you really think about it.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Bullfrog on October 12, 2017, 09:26:18 AM
Not super sad I missed this game. The game-in-six was depressing enough. Most of the goals by the Devils were tough to stop. Hopefully Freddie picks it up soon.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Andy on October 12, 2017, 09:30:07 AM
Yucky game, tons of penalties, a little frustrating to watch. Leafs aren't going to win them all, that's for sure, but they are definitely going to need some better goaltending going forward. Andersen looks incredibly shaky.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 12, 2017, 10:27:51 AM
The meat hooks are really out for Andersen right now aren't they?

Would it have been nice if he had made a save on the deflections (2), screen shot that went post and in, and breakaway last night?  Yes, we probably needed at least one or two considering the way the other goalie was playing.  Do I blame him for any of those goals? Nope, I blame the team in front of him.

He had no chance on the tic-tac-toe PP goal.  Again, team in front of him.

On the 5-on-3 short handed goal, well, I'd like to say him directing the puck out into the slot was a bad choice, but when the other team is down 2 men, you don't exactly expect a second man to come up on a rush.  That might be the only goal where I place blame on him, but the team in front of him did zero favours- it was a gong show of a sequence.

Don't get me wrong, I do expect him to be better and to make a few more stops on difficult plays like he did in the first period against the Jets.  With a team that isn't strong defensively in front of him, he's going to have to do that on nights when we don't have puck luck at the other end if we want to win.  So far this season he hasn't been great, but he hasn't been as bad as his stats suggest.

Some numbers to ponder:

The leafs have given up 16 goals on 124 shots so far through the 4 games, giving him a .871 Sv%.  The Leafs all-situation expected goals against at this point is 13.61.  So, Andersen's expected save percentage is sitting at .890   ....  The team in front of him needs to do a whole lot better defensively or we are going to be saying Andersen is garbage all year even when it isn't entirely deserved.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 12, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
I feel like this is my fault.

Because you didn't fight hard enough for the Leafs to keep Seth?

If I had Twitter, I would've begged Shanahan to step in for Seth. But I didn't, and now he is gone.

Game 1: my stream froze in the third and I got back on to see we gave up a lack-of-focus goal in a blowout
Game 2: didn't get to watch until partway through the third, when the Leafs put the dagger into the comeback
Game 3: missed the first, when we were down 2, but saw the Zaitsev goal. Then the stream cut out again and I got back on to see we had given up the Panik gift. Kept watching to see the comeback bring playoff noise back to the Hanger for the regular season.
Game 4: missed it completely. But I see we gave up a 3-on-5 goal.

I think you could make a case that you deserve season tickets, and a spot on the teams charter.

Also though, the Devils really seem to have the Leafs number.  Wasn't there a game not to long ago (maybe it was long ago, the years are starting to blend together)  where the Leafs had a 6-1 lead or something like that and the Leafs coughed up the lead and lost in overtime 7-6.  I remember Gionta having a good night.  Always seems like the Devils play the Leafs really well, regardless of how good their team is.  Carolina too.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Arn on October 12, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
I remember that game as well, it was just last season.

This new Devils team is very different too. In many ways kind of reminded me a bit of early season last year Leafs, but with more elite goaltending.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 12, 2017, 11:02:30 AM
I think you could make a case that you deserve season tickets, and a spot on the teams charter.

All I have to do is make some questionable lifestyle and health decisions to show my dedication to the team, hope I get on camera to create a meme-moment...
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 12, 2017, 11:37:55 AM
I think you could make a case that you deserve season tickets, and a spot on the teams charter.

All I have to do is make some questionable lifestyle and health decisions to show my dedication to the team, hope I get on camera to create a meme-moment...

That's been done.  You need to innovate.  Don't be dart guy.  Be dart guy++.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on October 12, 2017, 11:39:56 AM
I think you could make a case that you deserve season tickets, and a spot on the teams charter.

All I have to do is make some questionable lifestyle and health decisions to show my dedication to the team, hope I get on camera to create a meme-moment...

That's been done.  You need to innovate.  Don't be dart guy.  Be dart guy++.

Blunt guy?
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 12, 2017, 11:44:46 AM
I think you could make a case that you deserve season tickets, and a spot on the teams charter.

All I have to do is make some questionable lifestyle and health decisions to show my dedication to the team, hope I get on camera to create a meme-moment...

That's been done.  You need to innovate.  Don't be dart guy.  Be dart guy++.

Blunt guy?

 ;D

Just wait until July 2018 before you show a blunt hanging from your mouth on TV tho
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 12, 2017, 12:47:14 PM
;D

Just wait until July 2018 before you show a blunt hanging from your mouth on TV tho

So I always thought your handle was more of a cereal reference.  ;)

Dart++ = multi-dart, right? Three sounds optimal based on how many I can hold easily.

Blunt guy could really tell it like it is. Would be really good on tv/radio until the inevitable suspension/firing.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Coco-puffs on October 12, 2017, 12:59:49 PM

So I always thought your handle was more of a cereal reference.  ;)


I did love the cereal growing up... but it was more a reference to Carlo Colaiacovo and his penchant for getting injured... often.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: herman on October 12, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
I did love the cereal growing up... but it was more a reference to Carlo Colaiacovo and his penchant for getting injured... often.

Boneitis :( I loved his hip checks. And then he hip checked an open bench door :(
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: Highlander on October 12, 2017, 05:15:27 PM
Haven't read a post to date, just got in but a few comments.  Perhaps Freddie should have been rested last night, he didn't look sharp from the get go.  Lots of shots for Leafs but a lot of bad bounces and give Schneider his due.  Rosen and the Borg are going to make their fare share of mistakes in their learning curves. Stick with them!
Couldn't believe the Devils speed, where did the trap go? Lots of young guys with speed and talent on that team, could be a sleeper.
Can't wait to play them again.
Title: Re: Devils @ Leafs - Oct. 11th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on October 13, 2017, 04:28:34 AM
This can be considered the worst game the Leafs have played so far in this early season start.  All those penalty calls, yet the Leafs had the PP for 20% of the time.   They did have plenty of opportunities but Schneider seemed determined to win the battle of the puck-stoppers.

As for the defence, I find it perplexing why Babcock even bothered pairing two greenhorns in Borgman & Rosen.  Don't think that builds up much confidence here, to be burned by a speedy Devils team.  Unless of course, that's part of the training, part of their "learning curve" as Highlander mentioned.