[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoLBWfo_o2I[/youtube]
His dad begged the coach to let Mitch (4 years old) play against 6 year olds.
At the 3:20 mark, after the 'Don't Stop Believing' image, he goes on a crazy end-to-end rush where he undresses the entire team a couple of time and puts it top corner. That rush was crazy. The kid could hit too!
EDIT: nvm... after watching the rest I realized that he does this through the entire video. It's crazy how good he is relative to the other players on the ice.
I would also like to point out his backhand. Haven't seen one like that around these parts since Sundin.He hit you?
I've only been able to watch a little of the game. Is Marner being used on the wing or at centre?
Those gifs are incredible. It looks like he's playing games with them.
Those gifs are incredible. It looks like he's playing games with them.
Yeah, I mean the one on the PK it's pretty clear he was just showing off. But you know what it's a summer scrimmage game, so why not? I'm sure all the skilled guys were trying to get on the highlight reel.
Does the roster change for tonight's game against the Czechs?
Does the roster change for tonight's game against the Czechs?
I believe there are 40 players in the Canadian camp, and since there are 4 games in 4 consecutive days, I assume 20 guys play game 1 and 3, and the other 20 play games 2 and 4.
Does the roster change for tonight's game against the Czechs?
I believe there are 40 players in the Canadian camp, and since there are 4 games in 4 consecutive days, I assume 20 guys play game 1 and 3, and the other 20 play games 2 and 4.
Thank you sir.
You're welcome, though I was somewhat wrong. Marner didn't play last night as I expected, but will play game 4 tonight. Travis Dermott played both games 1 and 3, so I don't know exactly how they're splitting the squad game to game.
So with all the stuff going down with Patrick Kane, can we all stop comparing Marner to him.
So with all the stuff going down with Patrick Kane, can we all stop comparing Marner to him.
So with all the stuff going down with Patrick Kane, can we all stop comparing Marner to him.
None of the comparisons say anything about off-ice conduct, and I think most people are smart enough to make that distinction. If he's like Kane on the ice, then he's like Kane on the ice.
Well depending on what comes out of this investigation, I hope he is nothing like Kane off the ice.
I understand that no means no and practiced that in my younger life. I do feel a bit for Kane on this one as the lady in question did go home with him at 4am from a bar. Still no means no is the key.
Rape is a crime of violence (of extreme violence) and cannot be condoned no matter what the circumstance.
What I don't understand with his bankroll, is he could afford the top escort services in the world, so what the frikk is he doing? Just doesnt make sense at all.
How long are the Hawks going to stand behind him on this one and of course if he is charged and convicted it releases them from their commitment to him.
Ok Quickstraw :-X
If you wanted to watch all of Marner's minutes in the Czech game (edited down from the full game video), well here you go:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGA9MPXbs2Q[/youtube]
Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
Bergeron with more speed and scoring?
Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
Bergeron with more speed and scoring?
He's basically Crosby without the whining.
Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I think Marner should be better than Johnson IMO.
A 2-minute video from a private Marner practice session:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVE7igAA3VA[/youtube]
Mitch Marner is so dangerous right now even the boundaries of a standard cliché can’t contain him.
Marner, named player of the game during Team OHL’s 2-1 win over Team Russia on Monday night in Windsor, has long been described as a player who makes those around him better. But that old hockeyism wasn’t enough for Rocky Thompson.
“I think I was better, on the bench,” said the Team OHL coach with a laugh after the game.
“At this stage Marner reminds me of [Nazem] Kadri in the year after his draft,” said the veteran Ontario-based scout who is the owner of a Stanley Cup ring.
[...]
The scout explained the comparison in depth. "What people forget was that Kadri was really good [after his draft] in London," he said. "He wasn't physically ready for the NHL and Marner isn't either—he's even farther away. In terms of puck skills, though, Kadri [was] and Marner [is] just better than everyone they're playing with and against."
By numbers, you could make a case that Marner is out in front of Kadri at the same age but the scout suggested that goals and points aren't the only measure in play. "[London coach Dale] Hunter kept a pretty tight grip on Kadri and he had to fall into line," he said. "Marner, though, he pretty much does what he wants. He knows he's there to play his 30 or 35 minutes. He's going to stay out there on the ice for a whole two-minute power play and then another minute on top of that.
"I think you can draw a straight line between Marner and [former Knight] Patrick Kane," an NHL scouting director said. "The question a lot of people ask is whether Marner’s physically ready to play at the next level. At this point, you should just stop asking the question.
"Guys have tried to hit Marner and they can’t find him. It was the same thing with Kane at the same stage... they just see the ice so well and have such great instincts. And the fact is, one thing that makes them hard to hit is that you’re going to get beat bad if you try to run them."
[...]
When asked about the point made by Scout 1 concerning Marner’s inclination to take the two-minute shifts and freelance, Scout 2 was in general agreement, but said that Marner wasn’t necessarily to blame for it. Or at least entirely so.
"You have to put some of that on Dale [Hunter]," Scout 2 said. "That’s how he is with his top players. He was that way with Kane and that way with Kadri. With Kane, I remember there’d be times that he would come over to the bench, thinking Dale was going to change lines but [Hunter] would just point and send him back out there.
"Really that’s Dale just coaching to give his team the best chance to win. It didn’t hurt Kane, that’s for sure. He had to change [when he went to Chicago] but it’s not like playing two-minute shifts in London hurt his development. Yeah, you can talk about accountability and the 200-foot game and how it might be lacking for them in junior, but so long as they’re all in and with the program, they’re going to figure it out [when they get to the NHL]."
He’s not the fastest player on the ice, doesn’t have the hardest shot either. He isn’t the most physical player and doesn’t “wow” you with any one particular skill. But nobody thinks the game like Marner does. He’s smart, he’s aware, he’s slippery and thinks faster than anybody on the ice. Marner just knows where to go.
I talked to one hockey analyst who’s seen him extensively who told me: “In just about every situation he doesn’t make the right play, he makes the even better play. He does things out there that nobody else would even consider doing. And it works.”
You see elements of other players in Marner but in a lot of ways he’s most like Paul Kariya; a cerebral player who created glorious plays in the middle of chaos while the whole crowd was expecting him to get crushed by bigger and faster opponents.
Jeff Marek on Marner: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/next-up-mitch-marner-patrik-laine-jesse-puljujarvi-lethbridge-hurricanes-prince-george-cougars-world-junior-championship/QuoteHe’s not the fastest player on the ice, doesn’t have the hardest shot either. He isn’t the most physical player and doesn’t “wow” you with any one particular skill. But nobody thinks the game like Marner does. He’s smart, he’s aware, he’s slippery and thinks faster than anybody on the ice. Marner just knows where to go.
I talked to one hockey analyst who’s seen him extensively who told me: “In just about every situation he doesn’t make the right play, he makes the even better play. He does things out there that nobody else would even consider doing. And it works.”
You see elements of other players in Marner but in a lot of ways he’s most like Paul Kariya; a cerebral player who created glorious plays in the middle of chaos while the whole crowd was expecting him to get crushed by bigger and faster opponents.
It's awesome seeing him in that video at age 4 roofing it on a goalie.
Business as usual for Marner tonight: 1G 1A in his return to London.
Business as usual for Marner tonight: 1G 1A in his return to London.
Well, since he averages 2.3 points per game, it was actually a below average night for him.
You're welcome for the clarification.
It's possible but I think it's unlikely. They will play him in a sheltered role. If he can take a hit then he's good. Johnny Gaudreau is actually smaller and lighter than Marner and doesn't seem to have any problems.
And Marner caps off the 5-0 win with his first goal and fourth point. #Leafs https://t.co/htKgKWW3m5
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) February 6, 2016
We still have this to look forward to:On mobileAnd Marner caps off the 5-0 win with his first goal and fourth point. #Leafs https://t.co/htKgKWW3m5
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) February 6, 2016
2 assists so far against Sarnia. He has 80 points in 39 games.
Make it three as his shot from the point gets deflected in by Dvorak to tie the game at 3.
Marner is done with the OHL. This league is absolutely beneath him at this point. The Leafs are making the wrong decision if they send him back to Juniors next year.
Marner is done with the OHL. This league is absolutely beneath him at this point. The Leafs are making the wrong decision if they send him back to Juniors next year.
To put it in an NHL season length perspective, Mitch Marner has 175 points in his last 82 OHL games.
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) February 11, 2016
Comparatively, Dylan Strome has points in 31/38 games this season and 151 points in his last 82 games. Marner outdoing him significantly.
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) February 11, 2016
WATCH THIS: Mitch @Marner93 spins some magic for the @GoLondonKnights tying the game early in the third @MapleLeafs pic.twitter.com/leqco60Zea
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) February 13, 2016
UmWATCH THIS: Mitch @Marner93 spins some magic for the @GoLondonKnights tying the game early in the third @MapleLeafs pic.twitter.com/leqco60Zea
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) February 13, 2016
Marner. pic.twitter.com/TUmeRcSLsx
— Ryan (@ryanfancey) February 13, 2016
Yeah, so, he doesn't need more OHL time.
Yeah, so, he doesn't need more OHL time.
Yeah, so, he doesn't need more OHL time.
Yeah, he done with the OHL.
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L K, I've heard he is also having trouble with taking shorter shifts because it's been too easy for him. Can you confirm?
L K, I've heard he is also having trouble with taking shorter shifts because it's been too easy for him. Can you confirm?
Yes...but. It's a problem most top junior players get into. They can handle 1:30, even 2:00 shifts in the OHL because they are just on a completely different level. We keep looking at Marner's offensive gifts in this thread but the reality is that he is out there on the penalty kill and is always out on the ice in the final minutes of a game. The penalty kill is 3rd in the OHL at 83.5% despite being shorthanded 255 times in 52 games. Their powerplay is at 29% (1st in the OHL) with Marner QBing on the point.
This was a sweet feed (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/gotta-see-it-marner-dabs-feeds-teammate-popcorn-during-1-on-1/) from Marner.
This was a sweet feed (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/gotta-see-it-marner-dabs-feeds-teammate-popcorn-during-1-on-1/)from Marner.
4 pt game today.
102 pts in 48 games.
4 pt game today.
102 pts in 48 games.
3 pts and 101 according to the OHL site. ;)
So Marner was named OHL player of the month. 10 goals and 18 assists in 12 games.
So Marner was named OHL player of the month. 10 goals and 18 assists in 12 games.
Is that good? It sounds good.
Craig Button thinks he should go back for another year. Call him when he hits 3.00 PPG.
Craig Button thinks he should go back for another year. Call him when he hits 3.00 PPG.
I'd rather send him to Europe than back to junior, and I don’t want to send him to Europe. The OHL next year would be a waste, though it also really sucks he can't go to the AHL.
Craig Button thinks he should go back for another year. Call him when he hits 3.00 PPG.
I'd rather send him to Europe than back to junior, and I don’t want to send him to Europe. The OHL next year would be a waste, though it also really sucks he can't go to the AHL.
OHL then call up to the NHL after the deadline?
I've only been able to watch a little of the game. Is Marner being used on the wing or at centre?
I didn't watch, but it seems like like played primarily on the wing at even-strength. Played centre/took faceoffs on the PK and played on the point on the PP.
Why can't he play in the AHL?
Why can't he play in the AHL?
CHL rules that try to keep their star players in the league as long as possible.
Players drafted out of the CHL are ineligible to play for the AHL until they're 20. You might recall Kadri bouncing between the London Knights and the Leafs.
Why can't he play in the AHL?
CHL rules that try to keep their star players in the league as long as possible.
Players drafted out of the CHL are ineligible to play for the AHL until they're 20. You might recall Kadri bouncing between the London Knights and the Leafs.
I think you're generally right about the age eligibility (although there are exceptions, say, for players whose junior team has been eliminated from the playoffs, or players who've played 4 full years of junior). But the bouncing that Kadri did was between the Leafs and the Marlies. Kadri only played one game for the Leafs while he was a London Knight, as an emergency call-up.
I think you're generally right about the age eligibility (although there are exceptions, say, for players whose junior team has been eliminated from the playoffs, or players who've played 4 full years of junior). But the bouncing that Kadri did was between the Leafs and the Marlies. Kadri only played one game for the Leafs while he was a London Knight, as an emergency call-up.
So those CHL rules are stupid, right? The League should probably do something about them.
So those CHL rules are stupid, right? The League should probably do something about them.
They are pretty stupid. The cut off should be that the player can be assigned after their 18th birthday (since, I believe that's the minimum by the AHL's rules).
So those CHL rules are stupid, right? The League should probably do something about them.
They are pretty stupid. The cut off should be that the player can be assigned after their 18th birthday (since, I believe that's the minimum by the AHL's rules).
I don't disagree with you, but perhaps limit it to NHL 1st rounders or give each NHL team one special exemption from the CHL per year, something like that. They'd be burning a lot of CHL bridges if they changed it the way you suggested.
Besides, what's the difference in the number of players between what you suggest and just a total freedom of teams to develop their picks as they want? How many post-1st round picks are so good that, like Marner, they're clearly not meant to be in Junior any more.
Wouldn't the financial stability of their main feeder league be of concern to the NHL?
Wouldn't the financial stability of their main feeder league be of concern to the NHL?
Also, I'd imagine if it was as simple as the NHL saying "we're the NHL and what we say goes" this agreement would have already been altered.
Wouldn't the financial stability of their main feeder league be of concern to the NHL?
Do you really want to make the case that losing the dozen or so players per year this would affect would mark a major shift in the viability of selling hockey in small Canadian cities?
Wouldn't the financial stability of their main feeder league be of concern to the NHL?
Also, I'd imagine if it was as simple as the NHL saying "we're the NHL and what we say goes" this agreement would have already been altered.
So those CHL rules are stupid, right? The League should probably do something about them.
They are pretty stupid. The cut off should be that the player can be assigned after their 18th birthday (since, I believe that's the minimum by the AHL's rules).
I don't disagree with you, but perhaps limit it to NHL 1st rounders or give each NHL team one special exemption from the CHL per year, something like that. They'd be burning a lot of CHL bridges if they changed it the way you suggested.
Yawn. 3 more assists tonight (2 primary). 115 points on the year. He is 1 point away from 300 career OHL points ad 4 goals away from 100.
The Knights have two games left on the season. A home and home against Erie. Currently they hold a 2 point lead on 1st overall in the OHL over Erie. Erie is going to beat the snot out of Owen Sound tomorrow so this is pretty much the best you could ask for a finish to the regular season. Winner takes all for a considerably easier path through a very difficult Western Conference.
Yawn. 3 more assists tonight (2 primary). 115 points on the year. He is 1 point away from 300 career OHL points ad 4 goals away from 100.
The Knights have two games left on the season. A home and home against Erie. Currently they hold a 2 point lead on 1st overall in the OHL over Erie. Erie is going to beat the snot out of Owen Sound tomorrow so this is pretty much the best you could ask for a finish to the regular season. Winner takes all for a considerably easier path through a very difficult Western Conference.
London beats Erie 4-2 tonight, Marner with 2 assists including this one: https://streamable.com/u4od
Yawn. 3 more assists tonight (2 primary). 115 points on the year. He is 1 point away from 300 career OHL points ad 4 goals away from 100.
The Knights have two games left on the season. A home and home against Erie. Currently they hold a 2 point lead on 1st overall in the OHL over Erie. Erie is going to beat the snot out of Owen Sound tomorrow so this is pretty much the best you could ask for a finish to the regular season. Winner takes all for a considerably easier path through a very difficult Western Conference.
London beats Erie 4-2 tonight, Marner with 2 assists including this one: https://streamable.com/u4od
Mitch Marner. He's just not ready. Nice hair though.
Has he put on any muscle this season? At 160 he will get hurt for sure if they bring him up.Gaudreau is smaller and weighs less than Marner.
Has he put on any muscle this season? At 160 he will get hurt for sure if they bring him up.Gaudreau is smaller and weighs less than Marner.
Has he put on any muscle this season? At 160 he will get hurt for sure if they bring him up.Gaudreau is smaller and weighs less than Marner.
Nylander is clocking in at 169 right now
Has he put on any muscle this season? At 160 he will get hurt for sure if they bring him up.Gaudreau is smaller and weighs less than Marner.
Nylander is clocking in at 169 right now
There are exceptions sure, but let's not assume that it doesn't matter.
They will probably never tip the scales at 200lbs, but they'll need to get stronger to be top centremen.
I swear to god the highest scoring player of all time played at 6ft 170lbs.
I swear to god the highest scoring player of all time played at 6ft 170lbs.
Yeah, but what were his possession stats?
I swear to god the highest scoring player of all time played at 6ft 170lbs.
2G 1A in game 3 tonight:
http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/mar-2816-gm3-london-5-owen-sound-1
Mitch Marner has enough patience for the rest of us. From tonight: https://t.co/L2GAGI135m
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) March 29, 2016
He can get it off quickly too. Marner's second of the night: https://t.co/s8cmjLUXYh
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) March 29, 2016
Funny "block attempt" by the dman on goal #2.
Funny "block attempt" by the dman on goal #2.
Funny "stand still and do absolutely nothing attempt" by the right side dman on goal #1 too.
Not that it should take anything away from Marner though, some of the best highlight reel NHL goals have defencemen doing absolutely nothing too.
Max Jones delivers a vicious headshot then laughs as he gets ejected.
— Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) March 31, 2016
WATCH ➡️ https://t.co/a38hjLX1nu
I know what I'm about to say makes very little sense but in some ways I'd almost rather hear that Marner had hit some sort of wall or was struggling in some way.
I'm guess Max Jones will now get to laugh it up in the press box.
I know what I'm about to say makes very little sense but in some ways I'd almost rather hear that Marner had hit some sort of wall or was struggling in some way.
It makes sense if you want Marner to season for another year as the definite #1 on his team, rather than just one member of the Justice Knights of London.
#OHL Disciplinary Action: M. Jones (LDN) suspended 12 games for Gm4 check to head infraction vs OS. VIDEO/RATIONALE: https://t.co/meRK4GEOIw
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) April 1, 2016
Not exactly Marner related, but since we mentioned him here already:#OHL Disciplinary Action: M. Jones (LDN) suspended 12 games for Gm4 check to head infraction vs OS. VIDEO/RATIONALE: https://t.co/meRK4GEOIw
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) April 1, 2016
Good job, OHL. Leading the way.
Not exactly Marner related, but since we mentioned him here already:#OHL Disciplinary Action: M. Jones (LDN) suspended 12 games for Gm4 check to head infraction vs OS. VIDEO/RATIONALE: https://t.co/meRK4GEOIw
— OntarioHockeyLeague (@OHLHockey) April 1, 2016
Good job, OHL. Leading the way.
Eh...I mean yeah, good job. Last year Marner got concussed by Mason Marchment and he only got 10 games for a vicious head hit.
I'm guess Max Jones will now get to laugh it up in the press box.
I know what I'm about to say makes very little sense but in some ways I'd almost rather hear that Marner had hit some sort of wall or was struggling in some way.
It makes sense if you want Marner to season for another year as the definite #1 on his team, rather than just one member of the Justice Knights of London.
The first of three points for Mitch Marner on a nice cross-crease feed tonight. https://t.co/pTHJV4JV9G
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) April 9, 2016
Marner's second assist of the night. Nice one-touch play. Quick decision making. https://t.co/HyIFPeRjRe
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) April 9, 2016
And here's Marner's goal on an elusive release. https://t.co/iaUtzMifgf
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) April 9, 2016
JJ Piccinich handles a bad pass and makes the most of it with a shot under the bar in motion. https://t.co/ncb1u68bUq
— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) April 9, 2016
Was at the game this afternoon. Marner was his usual absurdly skilled self. Victor Mete probably had his best game in about 30 today.He really does seem absurdly gifted. I hope he can play for the Leafs next year as it makes no sense to keep him down. He just looked so out of place this year at training camp though.
Marner finished with 1G 3A for 4 points. He now leads the postseason with 19 points in 8 games.
Last year he had 142 points in 70 games - 2.03 PPG in the regular season + postseason
This year he is now up to 135 points in 65 games - 2.08 PPG
Funny situation in London: In order to vote for the league's MVP award each team submits their own team MVP and the OHL writers/broadcasters vote from that pool of players. Since the Knights thought Marner and Christian Dvorak were equally important to their team, they actually flipped a coin to decide their nominee and Marner was the lucky winner.
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/13/coin-flip-puts-marner-in-mvp-race
Funny situation in London: In order to vote for the league's MVP award each team submits their own team MVP and the OHL writers/broadcasters vote from that pool of players. Since the Knights thought Marner and Christian Dvorak were equally important to their team, they actually flipped a coin to decide their nominee and Marner was the lucky winner.
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/13/coin-flip-puts-marner-in-mvp-race
Strome didn't even get the benefit of a coin flip in Erie, as he's not their nominee.
Funny situation in London: In order to vote for the league's MVP award each team submits their own team MVP and the OHL writers/broadcasters vote from that pool of players. Since the Knights thought Marner and Christian Dvorak were equally important to their team, they actually flipped a coin to decide their nominee and Marner was the lucky winner.
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/13/coin-flip-puts-marner-in-mvp-race
Strome didn't even get the benefit of a coin flip in Erie, as he's not their nominee.
Who is their's?
London down 3-0, then 4-1, and go on to win 6-4.
Marner 3 goals 1 assist including the 5th and 6th goals of the game.
London finishes off Kitchener with the sweep.
Funny situation in London: In order to vote for the league's MVP award each team submits their own team MVP and the OHL writers/broadcasters vote from that pool of players. Since the Knights thought Marner and Christian Dvorak were equally important to their team, they actually flipped a coin to decide their nominee and Marner was the lucky winner.
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/13/coin-flip-puts-marner-in-mvp-race
Strome didn't even get the benefit of a coin flip in Erie, as he's not their nominee.
24 pts in 10 playoff games
24 pts in 10 playoff games
2015 - 49 points
2014 - 32 points
2013 - 41 points
2012 - 27 points
2011 - 24 points
2010 - 35 points
2009 - 36 points
Marner is heading into postseason elite company. In years where the player who scores >PPG in the postseason you are looking at Connor McDavid, Mark Scheifele and Taylor Hall.
24 pts in 10 playoff games
2015 - 49 points
2014 - 32 points
2013 - 41 points
2012 - 27 points
2011 - 24 points
2010 - 35 points
2009 - 36 points
Marner is heading into postseason elite company. In years where the player who scores >PPG in the postseason you are looking at Connor McDavid, Mark Scheifele and Taylor Hall.
What's the record for most OHL post-season points?
I don't know if it's the record, but Justin Papineau had 51 points in 21 games in 1999.
24 pts in 10 playoff games
2015 - 49 points
2014 - 32 points
2013 - 41 points
2012 - 27 points
2011 - 24 points
2010 - 35 points
2009 - 36 points
Marner is heading into postseason elite company. In years where the player who scores >PPG in the postseason you are looking at Connor McDavid, Mark Scheifele and Taylor Hall.
What's the record for most OHL post-season points?
I don't know if it's the record, but Justin Papineau had 51 points in 21 games in 1999.
I don't know if it's the record, but Justin Papineau had 51 points in 21 games in 1999.
It's obviously a different league and different time but Mario Lemieux had 52 points in just 14 playoff games his last year of junior.
London down 3-0, then 4-1, and go on to win 6-4.
Marner 3 goals 1 assist including the 5th and 6th goals of the game.
London finishes off Kitchener with the sweep.
I don't know if it's the record, but Justin Papineau had 51 points in 21 games in 1999.
It's obviously a different league and different time but Mario Lemieux had 52 points in just 14 playoff games his last year of junior.
So you're proposing Lemieux > Papineau?
24 pts in 10 playoff games
2015 - 49 points
2014 - 32 points
2013 - 41 points
2012 - 27 points
2011 - 24 points
2010 - 35 points
2009 - 36 points
Marner is heading into postseason elite company. In years where the player who scores >PPG in the postseason you are looking at Connor McDavid, Mark Scheifele and Taylor Hall.
What's the record for most OHL post-season points?
I don't know if it's the record, but Justin Papineau had 51 points in 21 games in 1999.
You're going to scare the hell out of everyone with that reference. Lol
From Wikipedia..
"Papineau was once compared to star Steve Yzerman, but those comparisons never came to fruition at the NHL level"
London down 3-0, then 4-1, and go on to win 6-4.
Marner 3 goals 1 assist including the 5th and 6th goals of the game.
London finishes off Kitchener with the sweep.
Here's the video (keep getting an error using the youtube tags:
https://youtu.be/SNPPnY-uFUA
The tags work best for me with the desktop Address Bar url, rather than the share or mobile address, with http://, i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPPnY-uFUA
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
No, they won't. They'll take the best player available.
No, they won't. They'll take the best player available.
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.
Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.
I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
C20H25N3O?
:)
Yeah, though the M&M's are so vapor trail-y when I think about it...
Fox trax, oh yeah...
Marner to Matthews swoosh, back to Marner swoosh, back to Matthews swoosh... scores! star wars laser fire/net set ablaze sound effects...
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.
Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.
I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
That would be pretty sweet.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
That would be pretty sweet.
Sweeter than Dvorak/Marner?
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.
Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.
I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in game 1 against Erie tonight.
I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.
Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.
I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.
I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.
Wake up! Stop daydreaming! Well, at least wait to continue dreaming until we actually win the lottery. :-\
I'm not so confident that we'll win it! I'd put money on Phoenix winning it! ;)
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.
"Only" a goal and an assist in a 6-1 win. Dude is slipping.
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.
"Only" a goal and an assist in a 6-1 win. Dude is slipping.
Trade him before he bottoms out!!
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.
"Only" a goal and an assist in a 6-1 win. Dude is slipping.
Trade him before he bottoms out!!
Probably too late.
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.
"Only" a goal and an assist in a 6-1 win. Dude is slipping.
Trade him before he bottoms out!!
Probably too late.
Man, the speed at which these prospects go from bank to bust is really getting out of hand.
He heard your criticisms and has responded with 3 points. Still 10:00 left to add to it.
EDIT: And a 4th point.
This is basically a Marner highlight reel: http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/apr-2616-gm3-erie-1-london-5
Some of the nicest didn't even end up as goals.
This is basically a Marner highlight reel: http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/apr-2616-gm3-erie-1-london-5
Some of the nicest didn't even end up as goals.
Man, this kid has some sick moves. That was Strome he undressed near the end of the first. He didn't score but the refs should have given him the goal anyway.
He's seriously like a ringer now, it's hilarious to watch, it's to the point where it is almost detrimental to his development. If you're not being challenged, do you improve as quickly?
He's seriously like a ringer now, it's hilarious to watch, it's to the point where it is almost detrimental to his development. If you're not being challenged, do you improve as quickly?
I don't think you do. When I was in martial arts, the number one rule we tried to practice was to compete against people who were better than you. It was easily the fastest way to get better.
I really do think it's getting to a point where keeping him up next year really is a no-brainer. Even if you think he might get exposed defensively or physically I think you either have to see if that's true or at least see how he responds to it being true because it's pretty clear that it won't happen if he spends another year in junior.
Marner putting on a show again tonight with some pretty sick moves. There is an HD youtube stream up if anyone wants to watch. I won't post the link, but you'll find it pretty clearly in this thread (no popups, just private Youtube)
https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
Marner putting on a show again tonight with some pretty sick moves. There is an HD youtube stream up if anyone wants to watch. I won't post the link, but you'll find it pretty clearly in this thread (no popups, just private Youtube)
https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
Like to see this but doesn't work. Has it been removed?
Marner putting on a show again tonight with some pretty sick moves. There is an HD youtube stream up if anyone wants to watch. I won't post the link, but you'll find it pretty clearly in this thread (no popups, just private Youtube)
https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
Like to see this but doesn't work. Has it been removed?
Strome 0G 3A 3P
Marner putting on a show again tonight with some pretty sick moves. There is an HD youtube stream up if anyone wants to watch. I won't post the link, but you'll find it pretty clearly in this thread (no popups, just private Youtube)
https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
Like to see this but doesn't work. Has it been removed?
Marner has won the Red Tilson Trophy as the OHL's Most Outstanding Player.
Marner has won the Red Tilson Trophy as the OHL's Most Outstanding Player.
Kind of an interesting article on how OHL scoring projects into NHL equivalents. Marner doesn't do great by it but as the author states, that might just be because he's gettng used to trying stuff out that won't work in the pros.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/using-analytics-show-ohl-snipers-best-shot-becoming-nhl-goal-scorers/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/using-analytics-show-ohl-snipers-best-shot-becoming-nhl-goal-scorers/)
Throwing anything and everything on net in junior is a worthwhile exercise, and for some players this lends itself to being productive despite rarely shooting from higher traffic areas.
This seems to be an assessment that overvalues "grinder" goals.
If you watch Marner's highlight reel, most of his goals are caused byQuoteThrowing anything and everything on net in junior is a worthwhile exercise, and for some players this lends itself to being productive despite rarely shooting from higher traffic areas.
It's a bit of a misnomer to imply that all goals from a given area are created equal. Besides, Marner isn't really a sniper/goal scorer, he's a playmaker.
This seems to be an assessment that overvalues "grinder" goals.
Marner with an assist on a goal in a 3-1 Knights lead over Niagara after 2 periods.
Edit: Add a goal to his totals
Niagara really has become unhinged in this series. Dunn acting like an idiot. Mantha spitting in a hat after Tkachuk got a hattrick and then throwing the hat back into the crowd. Three knee on knee hits in the game. Haydon "stealing" the puck at the end of the game.
The Knights have outscored them 10-2 in the series so far.
Vince Dunn unhappy with the refs after a goal... and, uh, does this: pic.twitter.com/HmM5Q8lTyI
— Mitch Brown (@MitchLBrown) May 8, 2016
Mitch Marner hands the Cup to Knights' prospect Jacob Buch who had been battling cancer (as per @RyanatLFPress). pic.twitter.com/p8F7cu9Pcp
— Kathryn Jean (@msconduct) May 12, 2016
On mobile... can't see :(
A dumb question I know, but has Marner been the captain there all year? If so it slipped my mind. That or I've really only ever seen the back of his jersey in highlight clips.
He was named co-captain with Dvorak at the beginning of the year.
http://londonknights.com/article/marner-and-dvorak-named-co-captains
On mobile... can't see :(
Maybe this?
Edit: so pasting the twitter url now auto embeds!
Add the https:// to see this: twitter.com/msconduct/status/730581860376514561
He was named co-captain with Dvorak at the beginning of the year.
http://londonknights.com/article/marner-and-dvorak-named-co-captains
Thanks. That rings more of a bell.
Has anyone else won the MOP, Playoff MVP, OHL Championship in one season before (or the CHL league equivalents)?
Has anyone ever won all the above + the Memorial Cup and the MC MVP in that one season?
Edit: To answer my own question, it appears Corey Perry did back in 2005 with the London Knights, where he was the recipient of:
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – All-Star Team
2004–05 – OHL Red Tilson Trophy (Most Outstanding Player)
2004–05 – OHL Eddie Powers Memorial Trophy (Leading Scorer)
2004–05 – OHL Wayne Gretzky 99 Award (Playoff MVP)
2004–05 – OHL First All-Star Team
Has anyone else won the MOP, Playoff MVP, OHL Championship in one season before (or the CHL league equivalents)?
Has anyone ever won all the above + the Memorial Cup and the MC MVP in that one season?
Edit: To answer my own question, it appears Corey Perry did back in 2005 with the London Knights, where he was the recipient of:
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – All-Star Team
2004–05 – OHL Red Tilson Trophy (Most Outstanding Player)
2004–05 – OHL Eddie Powers Memorial Trophy (Leading Scorer)
2004–05 – OHL Wayne Gretzky 99 Award (Playoff MVP)
2004–05 – OHL First All-Star Team
And Perry did that in his draft+2 season, because of the NHL lockout. Marner's of course just in his D+1 season.
Has anyone else won the MOP, Playoff MVP, OHL Championship in one season before (or the CHL league equivalents)?
Has anyone ever won all the above + the Memorial Cup and the MC MVP in that one season?
Edit: To answer my own question, it appears Corey Perry did back in 2005 with the London Knights, where he was the recipient of:
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – All-Star Team
2004–05 – OHL Red Tilson Trophy (Most Outstanding Player)
2004–05 – OHL Eddie Powers Memorial Trophy (Leading Scorer)
2004–05 – OHL Wayne Gretzky 99 Award (Playoff MVP)
2004–05 – OHL First All-Star Team
And Perry did that in his draft+2 season, because of the NHL lockout. Marner's of course just in his D+1 season.
Has anyone else won the MOP, Playoff MVP, OHL Championship in one season before (or the CHL league equivalents)?
Has anyone ever won all the above + the Memorial Cup and the MC MVP in that one season?
Edit: To answer my own question, it appears Corey Perry did back in 2005 with the London Knights, where he was the recipient of:
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (MVP)
2004–05 – Memorial Cup – All-Star Team
2004–05 – OHL Red Tilson Trophy (Most Outstanding Player)
2004–05 – OHL Eddie Powers Memorial Trophy (Leading Scorer)
2004–05 – OHL Wayne Gretzky 99 Award (Playoff MVP)
2004–05 – OHL First All-Star Team
And Perry did that in his draft+2 season, because of the NHL lockout. Marner's of course just in his D+1 season.
So what you're saying is that Marner is guaranteed to be better than Corey Perry!
A dumb question I know, but has Marner been the captain there all year? If so it slipped my mind. That or I've really only ever seen the back of his jersey in highlight clips.
But while there doesn’t appear to be anything left for Marner’s development in junior hockey, there are concerns about whether he is physically ready to play in the NHL. Much has been said about Marner’s apparently slight frame, but strength is not really an issue. At about six feet tall and 165 lb., Marner back-squats multiple reps at 375 lb. He’s worked with the same performance coach, Dan Noble, since he was in the eighth grade at Vaughn Hill Academy. (Noble is similarly embedded in the family’s close circle—during an exhibition game at the World Juniors when Marner wasn’t dressed, he spotted Noble sitting alone in the stands and quickly texted his dad asking him to go and sit with him.) Noble likens Marner’s body type to that of a defensive back in football—tall, lean and fast. While Marner needs to put on muscle mass, Noble says, its needs to be done intelligently without loading up for the sake of appearances.
This was the part that stood out to me:QuoteBut while there doesn’t appear to be anything left for Marner’s development in junior hockey, there are concerns about whether he is physically ready to play in the NHL. Much has been said about Marner’s apparently slight frame, but strength is not really an issue. At about six feet tall and 165 lb., Marner back-squats multiple reps at 375 lb. He’s worked with the same performance coach, Dan Noble, since he was in the eighth grade at Vaughn Hill Academy. (Noble is similarly embedded in the family’s close circle—during an exhibition game at the World Juniors when Marner wasn’t dressed, he spotted Noble sitting alone in the stands and quickly texted his dad asking him to go and sit with him.) Noble likens Marner’s body type to that of a defensive back in football—tall, lean and fast. While Marner needs to put on muscle mass, Noble says, its needs to be done intelligently without loading up for the sake of appearances.
There's no need for Marner to jump up to 190 lbs or something like that. He can play at 170 lbs and as long as he's working on his strength he'll be fine. Martin St. Louis was generously listed at 5'8", 180 lbs but he was probably one of the strongest guys on the ice.
He's always been an exception though. Look at Johnny Gaudreau.This was the part that stood out to me:QuoteBut while there doesn’t appear to be anything left for Marner’s development in junior hockey, there are concerns about whether he is physically ready to play in the NHL. Much has been said about Marner’s apparently slight frame, but strength is not really an issue. At about six feet tall and 165 lb., Marner back-squats multiple reps at 375 lb. He’s worked with the same performance coach, Dan Noble, since he was in the eighth grade at Vaughn Hill Academy. (Noble is similarly embedded in the family’s close circle—during an exhibition game at the World Juniors when Marner wasn’t dressed, he spotted Noble sitting alone in the stands and quickly texted his dad asking him to go and sit with him.) Noble likens Marner’s body type to that of a defensive back in football—tall, lean and fast. While Marner needs to put on muscle mass, Noble says, its needs to be done intelligently without loading up for the sake of appearances.
There's no need for Marner to jump up to 190 lbs or something like that. He can play at 170 lbs and as long as he's working on his strength he'll be fine. Martin St. Louis was generously listed at 5'8", 180 lbs but he was probably one of the strongest guys on the ice.
I still think his size is not a fully resolved issue. 170 is pretty light no matter how you cut it IMO. Sorry to be a cliche machine but the only way to know is when he plays against men. He might even be strong on the puck at his current weight, and he might be really good at dodging checks, but no matter what he is going to get hammered more, and for longer, than he ever has before. That concerns me.
This was the part that stood out to me:QuoteBut while there doesn’t appear to be anything left for Marner’s development in junior hockey, there are concerns about whether he is physically ready to play in the NHL. Much has been said about Marner’s apparently slight frame, but strength is not really an issue. At about six feet tall and 165 lb., Marner back-squats multiple reps at 375 lb. He’s worked with the same performance coach, Dan Noble, since he was in the eighth grade at Vaughn Hill Academy. (Noble is similarly embedded in the family’s close circle—during an exhibition game at the World Juniors when Marner wasn’t dressed, he spotted Noble sitting alone in the stands and quickly texted his dad asking him to go and sit with him.) Noble likens Marner’s body type to that of a defensive back in football—tall, lean and fast. While Marner needs to put on muscle mass, Noble says, its needs to be done intelligently without loading up for the sake of appearances.
There's no need for Marner to jump up to 190 lbs or something like that. He can play at 170 lbs and as long as he's working on his strength he'll be fine. Martin St. Louis was generously listed at 5'8", 180 lbs but he was probably one of the strongest guys on the ice.
I still think his size is not a fully resolved issue. 170 is pretty light no matter how you cut it IMO. Sorry to be a cliche machine but the only way to know is when he plays against men. He might even be strong on the puck at his current weight, and he might be really good at dodging checks, but no matter what he is going to get hammered more, and for longer, than he ever has before. That concerns me.
Let's no kid ourselves, getting hit by NHL defenders is going to be quite a bit different than getting hit by an 18 year old.
I hope he's as elusive as he seems to be in the O.
Let's no kid ourselves, getting hit by NHL defenders is going to be quite a bit different than getting hit by an 18 year old.
I hope he's as elusive as he seems to be in the O.
The NHL isn't the league it used to be though. Guys aren't taking huge hits every shift. How many times did a guy like Phil Kessel get smashed into?
Let's no kid ourselves, getting hit by NHL defenders is going to be quite a bit different than getting hit by an 18 year old.
I hope he's as elusive as he seems to be in the O.
The NHL isn't the league it used to be though. Guys aren't taking huge hits every shift. How many times did a guy like Phil Kessel get smashed into?
I think about a guy like Kadri when he came into the league. He was pretty light, and got knocked around a lot, but he didn't get crushed every game. And I don't think he's particularly elusive, either.
And about Kessel, this is honestly the only hit that comes to mind, but it's a memorable one.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/jjnqmd.jpg[)
And about Kessel, this is honestly the only hit that comes to mind, but it's a memorable one.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/jjnqmd.jpg[)
And about Kessel, this is honestly the only hit that comes to mind, but it's a memorable one.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/jjnqmd.jpg[)
And even then the life lesson we should all learn from Eric Lindros is that it doesn't matter how big or tough you are, you still might get clobbered from time to time.
If Marner was a grind it out type then, yeah, you'd want him to be 200 lbs or so but there are enough guys in the league who are successful at 170-180 that his weight really shouldn't concern anyone too much.
Marner goal - 6-0 Knights
(That's 2G 3A for those counting at home)
Marner was named the OHL's regular season MVP after scoring 116 points in 57 games. People didn't think it would last, so he was named the OHL's playoff MVP after scoring 44 points in 18 games. If tonight is any indication, he's well on his way to grabbing a third MVP in the same season. The only two others to do that in the past twenty years? Brad Richards and Corey Perry, who were both on Draft+2 seasons and both became star players.
Why can't Marner play in the AHL next season?
BustWhy can't Marner play in the AHL next season?
Not good enough.
Marner assist - 1-0 Knights
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9 points in 2 games in a 9-1 drubbing. About to win their 15th game in a row.
9 points in 2 games in a 9-1 drubbing. About to win their 15th game in a row.
Does Marner feel bad for shooting tonight?
A mere 4 assists on a night that every shot is going in...
Does he want the Memorial Cup points record broken in 2 games or not? Because it looks like he doesn't.
;D
16 points is the scoring record.
16 points is the scoring record.
Whatever happened to that guy?
Marner assist - 1-0 Knights
(This is a recording)
Any online streaming for this game?
Marner assist - 1-0 Knights
(This is a recording)
Any online streaming for this game?
Just bookmark this link. Go hear near game time and you'll almost always find a link.
reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
So what's the over/under on Marner points tonight? 4.5?
The length of shifts they take is just nuts.
Marner with another 4 point night (4 assists) in a 5-2 Knights' win. They play in the final on Sunday. He now has 13 points in 3 games, a 4.33 ppg pace in the Memorial Cup tournament. Not a bad showing against the best players in the CHL.
The length of shifts they take is just nuts.
Opposing coaches have said that they have to devote two lines to stopping Tkachuk/Dvorak/Marner because they routinely take 2-3 minute shifts.
Marner is clearly the straw that stirs the drink on that line, as he keeps track of where everyone is pretty much all the time and slings no-look passes at will to break out of zones, or to capitalize on a vulnerable defense. When he gets the puck crossing the red line, the Knights bench stands up to watch.
This is what I can't get over. This isn't Laine or Matthews beating up Team France or whatever. Marner (and the Knights) are just streamrolling over the best teams in the CHL here.
Marner with another 4 point night (4 assists) in a 5-2 Knights' win. They play in the final on Sunday. He now has 13 points in 3 games, a 4.33 ppg pace in the Memorial Cup tournament. Not a bad showing against the best players in the CHL.
This is what I can't get over. This isn't Laine or Matthews beating up Team France or whatever. Marner (and the Knights) are just streamrolling over the best teams in the CHL here.
Like the Knights beat the Brandon Wheat Kings 9-1. At first I thought, are they just the hosting team and not that good? Negative on both parts.
The Wheat Kings are the WHL Champs. They went 16-5 through the playoffs, and won their last 3 rounds in just 5 games each. They finished 2nd in the league in the regular season and had the best goal differential. They ended the regular season on an 11-0-2 run. Some of the final scores in the last 2 months of the regular season were 11-1, 8-3, 12-2, 7-2, and 8-1 (x2).
They had 2 players in the top-5 in league scoring, with potential 2017 first overall pick Nolan Patrick being one of them. First rounders John Quenneville and Ivan Provorov (named the WHL's best defencemen) were 3-4 in team scoring. And they also have another potential first round pick this year in Kale Clague on their blue line. 4 of their top-6 scorers are now 20+ years old so it's a pretty veteran team. And they're coached by Kelly McCrimmon, the guy who was courted by the Leafs before he decided to stay in junior.
So this was a very, very good team. Should have definitely been on-par with the Knights on paper. And they just trounced them.
Like the Knights beat the Brandon Wheat Kings 9-1. At first I thought, are they just the hosting team and not that good? Negative on both parts.
The Wheat Kings are the WHL Champs. They went 16-5 through the playoffs, and won their last 3 rounds in just 5 games each. They finished 2nd in the league in the regular season and had the best goal differential. They ended the regular season on an 11-0-2 run. Some of the final scores in the last 2 months of the regular season were 11-1, 8-3, 12-2, 7-2, and 8-1 (x2).
They had 2 players in the top-5 in league scoring, with potential 2017 first overall pick Nolan Patrick being one of them. First rounders John Quenneville and Ivan Provorov (named the WHL's best defencemen) were 3-4 in team scoring. And they also have another potential first round pick this year in Kale Clague on their blue line. 4 of their top-6 scorers are now 20+ years old so it's a pretty veteran team. And they're coached by Kelly McCrimmon, the guy who was courted by the Leafs before he decided to stay in junior.
So this was a very, very good team. Should have definitely been on-par with the Knights on paper. And they just trounced them.
I just hope that means Marner is just THAT special that even the best of the competition doesn't even faze him and that he can do stuff at-will. I can only hope he's the 2nd coming of Patrick Kane, minus all of the off ice crap.
Like the Knights beat the Brandon Wheat Kings 9-1. At first I thought, are they just the hosting team and not that good? Negative on both parts.
The Wheat Kings are the WHL Champs. They went 16-5 through the playoffs, and won their last 3 rounds in just 5 games each. They finished 2nd in the league in the regular season and had the best goal differential. They ended the regular season on an 11-0-2 run. Some of the final scores in the last 2 months of the regular season were 11-1, 8-3, 12-2, 7-2, and 8-1 (x2).
They had 2 players in the top-5 in league scoring, with potential 2017 first overall pick Nolan Patrick being one of them. First rounders John Quenneville and Ivan Provorov (named the WHL's best defencemen) were 3-4 in team scoring. And they also have another potential first round pick this year in Kale Clague on their blue line. 4 of their top-6 scorers are now 20+ years old so it's a pretty veteran team. And they're coached by Kelly McCrimmon, the guy who was courted by the Leafs before he decided to stay in junior.
So this was a very, very good team. Should have definitely been on-par with the Knights on paper. And they just trounced them.
I just hope that means Marner is just THAT special that even the best of the competition doesn't even faze him and that he can do stuff at-will. I can only hope he's the 2nd coming of Patrick Kane, minus all of the off ice crap.
Like the Knights beat the Brandon Wheat Kings 9-1. At first I thought, are they just the hosting team and not that good? Negative on both parts.
The Wheat Kings are the WHL Champs. They went 16-5 through the playoffs, and won their last 3 rounds in just 5 games each. They finished 2nd in the league in the regular season and had the best goal differential. They ended the regular season on an 11-0-2 run. Some of the final scores in the last 2 months of the regular season were 11-1, 8-3, 12-2, 7-2, and 8-1 (x2).
They had 2 players in the top-5 in league scoring, with potential 2017 first overall pick Nolan Patrick being one of them. First rounders John Quenneville and Ivan Provorov (named the WHL's best defencemen) were 3-4 in team scoring. And they also have another potential first round pick this year in Kale Clague on their blue line. 4 of their top-6 scorers are now 20+ years old so it's a pretty veteran team. And they're coached by Kelly McCrimmon, the guy who was courted by the Leafs before he decided to stay in junior.
So this was a very, very good team. Should have definitely been on-par with the Knights on paper. And they just trounced them.
I just hope that means Marner is just THAT special that even the best of the competition doesn't even faze him and that he can do stuff at-will. I can only hope he's the 2nd coming of Patrick Kane, minus all of the off ice crap.
Let's not get crazy here. He's the 2nd coming of Dougie Gilmour.
173 points on the cumulative season for Marner now. Patrick Kane had 176 points in his season with the Knights (in his draft year).
Marner's season is the best total offensive season (outside of Kane) since superstar Justin Azevedo.
Like the Knights beat the Brandon Wheat Kings 9-1. At first I thought, are they just the hosting team and not that good? Negative on both parts.
The Wheat Kings are the WHL Champs. They went 16-5 through the playoffs, and won their last 3 rounds in just 5 games each. They finished 2nd in the league in the regular season and had the best goal differential. They ended the regular season on an 11-0-2 run. Some of the final scores in the last 2 months of the regular season were 11-1, 8-3, 12-2, 7-2, and 8-1 (x2).
They had 2 players in the top-5 in league scoring, with potential 2017 first overall pick Nolan Patrick being one of them. First rounders John Quenneville and Ivan Provorov (named the WHL's best defencemen) were 3-4 in team scoring. And they also have another potential first round pick this year in Kale Clague on their blue line. 4 of their top-6 scorers are now 20+ years old so it's a pretty veteran team. And they're coached by Kelly McCrimmon, the guy who was courted by the Leafs before he decided to stay in junior.
So this was a very, very good team. Should have definitely been on-par with the Knights on paper. And they just trounced them.
173 points on the cumulative season for Marner now. Patrick Kane had 176 points in his season with the Knights (in his draft year).
Marner's season is the best total offensive season (outside of Kane) since superstar Justin Azevedo.
He's surpassed Azevedo, hasn't he?
Barely. 171 points in 2007-2008. 124 regular season + 36 OHL playoffs + 11 Memorial Cup points. Albeit in 92 games vs. 78 games.
Why aren't more people talking about Marner?Good things come in small packages.
I mean he is having one of the two or three best junior seasons of any junior player ever and at most he seems like an afterthought when people talk about the Leafs recently.
I wonder how much of it is tied to his size.
Why aren't more people talking about Marner?
I mean he is having one of the two or three best junior seasons of any junior player ever and at most he seems like an afterthought when people talk about the Leafs recently.
I wonder how much of it is tied to his size.
There will be a sit-down Jeff Marek interview with Marner, Dvorak and Tkachuk before today's Memorial Cup final.
There will be a sit-down Jeff Marek interview with Marner, Dvorak and Tkachuk before today's Memorial Cup final.
Think they'll talk about Mitch?
Incredible... I go the the Mastercard Memorial Cup website and click on the link to watch the final. I plug in my credit card and pay for the game, load it up, and I'm greeted by... a stream of the Blue Jay game. What an absolute f'in joke.
Edit: Crisis averted, they switched the stream... 12 minutes in.
The top line has been pretty quiet today. Think one of their faults especially on the PP is they get too cute. Of the 3 round robin games I thought this Huskies team gave London the most trouble. Score was not indicative of the play and they took too many penalties. Knights are going to have to play better in the 3rd.
Marner is going to be our second best prospect.
or not. Marner MVP!
Marner is absolutely getting detained on the flight home for all that metal he will be coming back with.
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
Mitch Marner appears to be a gem of a pick for the Leafs, but that top line for the Knights could likely be a top line on some NHL teams. And probably a damn good one. Thats how good they were.
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
The MVP of MVPs
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
The MVP of MVPs
The first player in OHL history to ever accomplish it. 8)
Now he and Brad Richards are the only 2 players in CHL history to completely run the MVP table.
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
The MVP of MVPs
The first player in OHL history to ever accomplish it. 8)
Now he and Brad Richards are the only 2 players in CHL history to completely run the MVP table.
Dale Hawerchuk (1981) missed only the QMJHL Playoff MVP. He won it 1980 though.
QMJHL Championships (1981)
Memorial Cup championships (1981)
Jean Béliveau Trophy (QMJHL Scoring Champion) (1981)
Michel Brière Memorial Trophy (QMJHL Player of the Year) (1981)
Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (Memorial Cup MVP) (1981)
CHL Player of the Year (1981)
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
The MVP of MVPs
The first player in OHL history to ever accomplish it. 8)
Now he and Brad Richards are the only 2 players in CHL history to completely run the MVP table.
Dale Hawerchuk (1981) missed only the QMJHL Playoff MVP. He won it 1980 though.
QMJHL Championships (1981)
Memorial Cup championships (1981)
Jean Béliveau Trophy (QMJHL Scoring Champion) (1981)
Michel Brière Memorial Trophy (QMJHL Player of the Year) (1981)
Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (Memorial Cup MVP) (1981)
CHL Player of the Year (1981)
Correy Perry only missed out on one of them, too.
Marner got 'em all!
Marner won every MVP award possible in the CHL:
OHL MVP
OHL Playoff MVP
CHL MVP
Memorial Cup MVP
The MVP of MVPs
The first player in OHL history to ever accomplish it. 8)
Now he and Brad Richards are the only 2 players in CHL history to completely run the MVP table.
Dale Hawerchuk (1981) missed only the QMJHL Playoff MVP. He won it 1980 though.
QMJHL Championships (1981)
Memorial Cup championships (1981)
Jean Béliveau Trophy (QMJHL Scoring Champion) (1981)
Michel Brière Memorial Trophy (QMJHL Player of the Year) (1981)
Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy (Memorial Cup MVP) (1981)
CHL Player of the Year (1981)
Correy Perry only missed out on one of them, too.
Marner got 'em all!
Soooooo what you're saying is Marner is BETTER than Corey Perry!?!?
An enterprising fellow on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/4lpslc/marners_2016_mvp_trophy_count_vs_past_winners/) put a table together of the Junior award winners (MVPs)
(http://i.imgur.com/K009qd9.jpg)
As TBLeafer mentioned, Corey Perry missed out on the CHL PoY to Sidney Crosby, but Crosby lost the MC MVP to Perry. Perry was playing his D+2 year though (and he's got some goonery in his game).
That 2011-12 list is damned impressive.
That 2011-12 list is damned impressive.
Good call, I can honestly say I've never heard of one of them.
That 2011-12 list is damned impressive.
Good call, I can honestly say I've never heard of one of them.
It was a very fitting graphics package, because those two really look like video game characters that you're using with cheat codes.
It was a very fitting graphics package, because those two really look like video game characters that you're using with cheat codes.
Unproven! :P
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/marner-and-matthews-a-fantastic-fit~882879
I don't usually care for what Button has to say, but I did enjoy watching the video game highlight circles track Marner and Matthews around the ice.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/marner-and-matthews-a-fantastic-fit~882879
I don't usually care for what Button has to say, but I did enjoy watching the video game highlight circles track Marner and Matthews around the ice.
Stupid TSN blocking all video traffic outside of Canada. I can't watch it if I wanted to.
I'm sure you could find two cherry picked similar plays for a lot of players though. Either one would probably look great with many different players so I'm not sure Button's onto anything too revelatory there.
Like so many 18-year-old rookie hopefuls and first-round picks, Marner said he suffered from a case of the jitters in 2015. Afraid to make a mistake, he opted for the safe, simple play in camp instead of trying to create scoring opportunities — the strength of a kid who models his game after Knights alum Patrick Kane.
“That’s what was wrong with my game,” he said. “This year I have to play my game, play the game I’m used to playing and not changing it up, instead of trying to make no mistakes at all — because that’s when bad things happen.”
Mitch Marner will adjust strategy for Maple Leafs training camp
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mitch-marner-toronto-maple-leafs-training-camp-approach-nerves-london-knights-junior-nhl/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mitch-marner-toronto-maple-leafs-training-camp-approach-nerves-london-knights-junior-nhl/)QuoteLike so many 18-year-old rookie hopefuls and first-round picks, Marner said he suffered from a case of the jitters in 2015. Afraid to make a mistake, he opted for the safe, simple play in camp instead of trying to create scoring opportunities — the strength of a kid who models his game after Knights alum Patrick Kane.
“That’s what was wrong with my game,” he said. “This year I have to play my game, play the game I’m used to playing and not changing it up, instead of trying to make no mistakes at all — because that’s when bad things happen.”
Should be pretty beneficial for him that he lives so close to the Leafs practice facility.
Not much in the way of real info here but apparently Marner's mom has retired and is in charge of bulking him up this summer:
http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-mitch-marner-trying-to-bulk-up-this-summer-in-bid-for-nhl-job (http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-mitch-marner-trying-to-bulk-up-this-summer-in-bid-for-nhl-job)
Should be pretty beneficial for him that he lives so close to the Leafs practice facility.
He wants to put on weight he should spend a week with me. I can eat.
Not much in the way of real info here but apparently Marner's mom has retired and is in charge of bulking him up this summer:
http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-mitch-marner-trying-to-bulk-up-this-summer-in-bid-for-nhl-job (http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-mitch-marner-trying-to-bulk-up-this-summer-in-bid-for-nhl-job)