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Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 11, 2014, 08:07:25 AM
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35-23-8, 78 points | 41-17-7, 89 points

Projected Lines

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin
Raymond-Holland-Clarkson
Bodie-McClement

Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Gleason-Rielly
Gardiner-Franson
Ranger

Reimer
           
Pavelski-Thornton-Burns
Marleau-Couture-Nieto
Torres-Sheppard-Wingels
Brown-Desjardins-Burish

Vlasic-Demers
Hannan-Braun
Irwin-Boyle

Niemi

Scratches

Colton Orr
Frazer McLaren
Carter Ashton
      
Marty Havlat
Matt Tennyson
Tyler Kennedy

Line-up Notes

•I'm guessing Reimer starts, but Randy could also go back to Bernier who of course was fantastic last night
      
•Niemi likely starts for San Jose
•Mike Brown has sat the last 4 but looks like he might re-enter the line-up in place of Kennedy                       

Injuries

•Dave Bolland - Ankle - Out indefinitely
  •Colton Orr - Undisclosed - Questionable Tuesday
      
•Tomas Hertl - Knee - Out indefinitely
•Brad Stuart - Upper Body - Questionable Tuesday

Statistical Leaders

Kessel - 34
Kessel - 39
Kessel - 73

Phaneuf - +18
Orr - 96
McClement - 54.0%
Phaneuf - 24:13

Bernier - 24
Bernier - 2.59
Bernier - .926
   
G
A
P

+/-
PIM
FO%
TOI/G

W
GAA
SA%
   
32 - Pavelski
52 - Thornton
62 - Pavelski

+24 - Burns
74 - Desjardins
55.6% - Pavelski   
21:21 - Braun

31 - Niemi
2.37 - Niemi
.912 - Niemi

Season Overview

35
23
8
(9th)         78

(10th)      2.83
(26th)      2.96
(6th)   21.0%
(28th)   78.3%

(25th)      27.7
(30th)      36.1
(24th)   48.4%

13-12-7
6-2-2
Won 3
   
W
L
OT
P

G/G
GA/G
PP%
PK%

S/G
SA/G
FO%

A | H
L10
Streak
   
41
17
7
89         (7th)

2.92      (7th)
2.34      (4th)
16.2%   (22nd)
84.0%   (6th)

34.9      (1st)
27.6      (5th)
52.8%   (3rd)

24-4-4
7-2-1
Won 2

Stream Options

http://www.ourleafs.blogspot.ca/
http://gofirstrow.eu/sport/ice-hockey.htmll
http://goATD.Net
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 08:13:16 AM
Hoping for a repeat performance this evening. GLG
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 08:15:48 AM
I'm predicting another loss. Hey....it worked for last nights game.  ;)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zee on March 11, 2014, 08:48:41 AM
There's no way in hell Leafs beat Anaheim and SJ back to back on the road.  Don't even watch this game guys.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bakeapples on March 11, 2014, 08:58:23 AM
Shark Sushi time!

Go leafs!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Love the positives here. Stranger things have happened
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: louisstamos on March 11, 2014, 09:28:30 AM
The Leafs played the Sharks well earlier in the season.  I'm hoping for at least a point out of this one.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 09:40:55 AM
There's no way in hell Leafs beat Anaheim and SJ back to back on the road.  Don't even watch this game guys.

Speed. Speed.  Speed.  That's the only way they win.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:22:45 AM
There's no way in hell Leafs beat Anaheim and SJ back to back on the road.  Don't even watch this game guys.

Speed. Speed.  Speed.  That's the only way they win.

I agree, but it's going to be real hard to keep up that speed game for two consecutive nights. Exhaustion has a way of catching up to that type of play. 

They have youth going for them, so let's hope they can prove me wrong once again.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: nutman on March 11, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
If they play like last night, I will say we can win.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on March 11, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
There's no way in hell Leafs beat Anaheim and SJ back to back on the road.  Don't even watch this game guys.

Speed. Speed.  Speed.  That's the only way they win.

I agree, but it's going to be real hard to keep up that speed game for two consecutive nights. Exhaustion has a way of catching up to that type of play. 

They have youth going for them, so let's hope they can prove me wrong once again.

i look forward to it
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 11:42:17 AM
There's no way in hell Leafs beat Anaheim and SJ back to back on the road.  Don't even watch this game guys.

Speed. Speed.  Speed.  That's the only way they win.

I agree, but it's going to be real hard to keep up that speed game for two consecutive nights. Exhaustion has a way of catching up to that type of play. 

They have youth going for them, so let's hope they can prove me wrong once again.

i look forward to it

 :)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
If they get a point out of this, the Cali swing will have been a success no matter what happens back in LA.

If they win ... then I say they have a playoff spot locked up.  It would take an 18-wheeler, a cliff, and gravity to keep them out.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
If they get a point out of this, the Cali swing will have been a success no matter what happens back in LA.

If they win ... then I say they have a playoff spot locked up.  It would take an 18-wheeler, a cliff, and gravity to keep them out.

Shhhhhh!!!!! 8)

Not yet.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 11, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Winning tonight's game would be epic.

I'm not expecting it to happen as I think San Jose's defense is better equipped to handle the Leafs offense than the Ducks were, but I've still got hope.

The Kings are going to be the toughest by far to beat, I think.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 02:38:04 PM
Winning tonight's game would be epic.

I'm not expecting it to happen as I think San Jose's defense is better equipped to handle the Leafs offense than the Ducks were, but I've still got hope.

The Kings are going to be the toughest by far to beat, I think.

To be completely honest, the last time the leafs played the Kings was IMO the best game they have played all year even though they lost. Just saying.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: hap_leaf on March 11, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
Like Pro-Line says "Anything can happen!"
Maybe Niemi gets the flu or knocked out in the warm-up.

All I ask for is a solid effort like last night; show emotion, don't let them take liberties with our goalie (thank you Gleason).

These guys played great against Montreal Saturday - this is going to be a huge task but it can be done.   
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 11, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
Winning tonight's game would be epic.

I'm not expecting it to happen as I think San Jose's defense is better equipped to handle the Leafs offense than the Ducks were, but I've still got hope.

The Kings are going to be the toughest by far to beat, I think.

To be completely honest, the last time the leafs played the Kings was IMO the best game they have played all year even though they lost. Just saying.

Yeah that's true enough; it's not that the Leafs are out of their league. It's timing more than anything else.

The Kings have won 8 in a row and have given up 7 goals in their last 6 games. Their defense is probably the stingiest in the league.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 02:52:05 PM
Winning tonight's game would be epic.

I'm not expecting it to happen as I think San Jose's defense is better equipped to handle the Leafs offense than the Ducks were, but I've still got hope.

The Kings are going to be the toughest by far to beat, I think.

To be completely honest, the last time the leafs played the Kings was IMO the best game they have played all year even though they lost. Just saying.

Yeah that's true enough; it's not that the Leafs are out of their league. It's timing more than anything else.

The Kings have won 8 in a row and have given up 7 goals in their last 6 games. Their defense is probably the stingiest in the league.

And ANA has the best home record in hockey. We were able to beat them last night. I expect a good game tonight. I hope the defense help Reimer out like they did for Bernier last night.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Leafs win 4-2.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 03:02:31 PM
Leafs win 4-2.

Dude was right on the money last nite.  If you nail this, you can start your own betblog.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: nutman on March 11, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
I'm calling for a big show from reamer tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 11, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
I see OPTIMIS REIM standing on his head. Kessel with a couple. GLG
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 11, 2014, 04:35:13 PM
10:30, ugh.  No fights tonight, please, need sleep.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Mostar on March 11, 2014, 04:39:18 PM
Hoping the Sharks come at the Leafs with a skating game, as opposed to a defensive choke-hold of a game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stickytape on March 11, 2014, 05:23:54 PM
10:30, ugh.  No fights tonight, please, need sleep.

No 25-round shoot-outs, either, please.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bullfrog on March 11, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
#freeAshton
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zee on March 11, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
#freeAshton

They won without him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: lamajama on March 11, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
If they get a point out of this, the Cali swing will have been a success no matter what happens back in LA.

If they win ... then I say they have a playoff spot locked up.  It would take an 18-wheeler, a cliff, and gravity to keep them out.

You do know what team we're cheering for right?  Nothing bad ever happens to us Leaf fans right?  :D
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: lamajama on March 11, 2014, 08:20:47 PM
Plus being a Leaf fan I'm never positive on anything until 19:59:59 of the 3rd period. Aw hell 20:00:00..
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 11, 2014, 09:58:46 PM
At the Shark tank with the Mrs, Go Leafs Go!!!
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WIGWALS_wifey on March 11, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
I am fangirling so hard right now and it's only practice!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 11, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
I am fangirling so hard right now and it's only practice!

The Leafs better give you guys an entertaining game!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
JVR last one off the ice, practicing banging in pucks in front of the net.

Franson out for Orr tonight, reports of a personal issue, I wonder if he knew the kid from the CHI who was found dead today.

Edit: Leafs say Cody is sick.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WIGWALS_wifey on March 11, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
I am fangirling so hard right now and it's only practice!

The Leafs better give you guys an entertaining game!

Me too! Last time they were here we saw Wilson win his 500th game. It was amazing!

*edit: a word.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 10:38:19 PM
JVR last one off the ice, practicing banging in pucks in front of the net.

Franson out for Orr tonight, reports of a personal issue, I wonder if he knew the kid from the CHI who was found dead today.

Edit: Leafs say Cody is sick.

Seriously.  We are playing this clown again over Ashton?
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 11, 2014, 10:40:14 PM
Someone forgot to turn on the lights.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 10:43:48 PM
On cue, the Leafs control the play, on comes the 4th line with the puck in the offensive zone and San Jose gets their first chance.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 11, 2014, 10:44:26 PM
Umyeah.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:46:01 PM
Well. Well. Well.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 10:47:22 PM
Jake F'ng Gardiner comes right back.  What a pass to Raymond and then finishes it off.

1-1
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:47:35 PM
Down goes brown.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 11, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
Brown is a tough customer. He's like half Bodie's size.

Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
Down goes brown.

Pretty sure that's Orr...you know, because he's so awesome.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Jake F'ng Gardiner comes right back.  What a pass to Raymond and then finishes it off.

1-1

BEAUTY!!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:51:11 PM
Jeez, Reimer looks shakey. Hasn't been getting enough starts.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Sheesh, miss the first 5 mins and it's 1-1 already.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 10:54:48 PM

It is beginning to become fairly apparent that the Leafs' group of professional hockey players are not, collectively, as good as the players the Sharks employ.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 10:55:37 PM
Sharks are good. It's like they have a 10 min powerplay to start the game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
Good goal or not, Reimer looks leaky.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 10:57:40 PM
That looks like a legit goal
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
I remember not too long ago when I used to feel relaxed watching the Leafs when Reimer was in goal. Man have times changed quickly.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 10:58:10 PM
Guess not. Now maybe Leafs will start to play?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 11, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
Reimer is leaky as hell. It's really apparent when you compare him to the reboundless Bernier.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 11, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
Good goal or not, Reimer looks leaky.

That is what I was thinking
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 10:59:27 PM
Leafs catch a huge break on that play.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Good goal or not, Reimer looks leaky.

Just looks a bit behind the play in front of him so far. Not a good sign.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 11, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
Pretty sure you can't pin the goalie to the ice.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on March 11, 2014, 11:04:11 PM
The San Jose announcers are apoplectic about the call.  (Tough one as any Leaf fan has seen so any calls go against the Leafs).  In looking at the replay it seems that Reimer made a poor play on the puck as it simply slipped under him.  Reimer is not playing like a no. 1 goalie as he just doesn't have the lateral movement.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
This is getting ugly for the Leafs. Fast.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Deebo on March 11, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Make up call.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
Reimer's all over the place and defence looks great again.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 11:05:42 PM
Do the Leafs have a shot on goal besides the goal?
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 11, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
Make up call.

Yeah, this.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: barney_rebel on March 11, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Kessel Run on March 11, 2014, 11:06:09 PM
This is going downhill real fast.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 11, 2014, 11:06:27 PM
Yeah. Too bad for Reimer. Just doesn't look like the same goalie from last year. Well. I'm off to bed. Can't handle a blow out after last night's feel good game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 11:06:35 PM
What a load of crap.  Thornton was on top of Reimer and the puck goes over his shoulder as he is getting back up.  I guess it makes up for the 2nd goal that didn't go in but wow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on March 11, 2014, 11:06:46 PM
We'll that was just bound to happen as the goaltender interference call was missed and the Sharks get a goal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 11:07:01 PM
12-3 shots.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:07:11 PM
This is kind of how I thought they'd get smoked by Anaheim.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 11, 2014, 11:07:19 PM
The top line is really suspect in their own end. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:08:23 PM
The top line is really suspect in their own end. Sheesh.

The entire team is pretty suspect in their own end.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 11, 2014, 11:09:26 PM
They're going to have to find a way to get some really resourceful goals to stay in this game I think.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:09:31 PM
As much as our top line has carried us this year they are dreadful in their own end especially Kessel and JVR.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
The top line is really suspect in their own end. Sheesh.

U beat me to it.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 11:11:17 PM
Men vs Boys.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:12:39 PM
A mismatch so far but this is their 3rd game in 4 nights with a x-c flight in there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Kessel Run on March 11, 2014, 11:13:21 PM
Glad we have Orr dressed for this game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 11, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
Glad we have Orr dressed for this game.

LOL!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bender on March 11, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
At the same time playing Anaheim and SJ back to back is tough. SJ has been off since Saturday, and they manhandled the Canadiens.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 11, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
Glad we have Orr dressed for this game.

LOL!

Well SJ does have Fraser McLaren....no wait they waived him.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:16:22 PM
The top line is really suspect in their own end. Sheesh.

The entire team is pretty suspect in their own end.

Ya I agree with you there but some guys will at least make a hit or fight to get control. Kessel is great at fly by's and JVR for a big kid doesn't use his body at all except on the offence. Big reason why we give up so many chances is they don't play tough enough without the puck. I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:19:42 PM

Man, I sure would prefer Mike Brown to Orr or McLaren.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:20:34 PM
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 11, 2014, 11:21:01 PM
There's not many teams that could go in to Anaheim and San Jose and beat both on back-to-back nights. It sounds like a lot of people here expected the Leafs to pull it off though?

Not to mention, the game's not over and Toronto has one of the most explosive offensives in the league. Reimer also usually gets better as the game progresses (last five minutes against Boston excluded.)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:24:22 PM
There's not many teams that could go in to Anaheim and San Jose and beat both on back-to-back nights. It sounds like a lot of people here expected the Leafs to pull it off though?

Not to mention, the game's not over and Toronto has one of the most explosive offensives in the league. Reimer also usually gets better as the game progresses (last five minutes against Boston excluded.)

Yeah, 2-1 after that period is far from as bad as it could have been.  I would be thrilled if they could somehow extract a point out of this one.

And, far from declaring victory on the California swing already, if they went 1-2 in these 3 games it wouldn't be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Not that I'm a huge fan of Corsi, but . . .

mirtle: Corsi in first period was 31-8. I'll let you guess who had what.

San Jose is good and the Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights, but, they've got to be better than that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Well other than Gretzky name me one. Lemieux took the body, Crosby, Ovechkin take the body. Orr played hard. Sure you have some that were soft but to some extent they battled for the puck and hard. If you watch Kessel he never stops and rubs someone out to get the puck. He usually skates by the player and tries to free or knock the puck loose. Terrible.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:27:38 PM
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Seriously. Was there a less "crash and bang" player in the history of the NHL than Mario Lemieux?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
Well other than Gretzky name me one. Lemieux took the body, Crosby, Ovechkin take the body. Orr played hard. Sure you have some that were soft but to some extent they battled for the puck and hard. If you watch Kessel he never stops and rubs someone out to get the puck. He usually skates by the player and tries to free or knock the puck loose. Terrible.

Lidstrom wasn't particularly physical. Neither was Robitaille. Or Gartner. I don't recall Brett Hull being a guy who got particularly involved in the physical side of the game. It's not something Jagr does a lot of. Lafleur wasn't big on it either, neither was Ron Francis. Lemieux used his size to his advantage on offence, but absolutely did not do so defensively. Crosby is very much in that mould, as well.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:37:43 PM

They're not all on him obviously but Phaneuf has been on the ice for a pretty ridiculous percentage of the team's goals against the last week or so.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 11, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Seriously. Was there a less "crash and bang" player in the history of the NHL than Mario Lemieux?

Phil Kessel?

And its fine. He doesn't get physical and he also stays in the lineup because he doesn't get hurt. Patty Kane ain't that physical either.

Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:39:37 PM
Seriously. Was there a less "crash and bang" player in the history of the NHL than Mario Lemieux?

Other than Wayne Gretzky? I dunno. Not many.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:40:16 PM
Phil Kessel?

I mean, Phil Kessel isn't physical or anything but he skates pretty hard on the backcheck, something Lemieux didn't do all that frequently.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 11, 2014, 11:42:01 PM
Phil Kessel?

I mean, Phil Kessel isn't physical or anything but he skates pretty hard on the backcheck, something Lemieux didn't do all that frequently.

Yes he does. He's done really well, especially the last two years.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stickytape on March 11, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
Oh, Clarkson.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 11, 2014, 11:44:59 PM
Oh Colton!
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:46:07 PM

Did that graphic seriously suggest that Orr has 68 penalty minutes this year that aren't from fighting majors? Because that's...not good.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:47:50 PM
Did that graphic seriously suggest that Orr has 68 penalty minutes this year that aren't from fighting majors? Because that's...not good.

66, but, to be fair to Orr, 50 of those are from misconduct penalties. He's only been called for 8 minor penalties - though, considering his ice time, that's still not good.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:48:44 PM
Did that graphic seriously suggest that Orr has 68 penalty minutes this year that aren't from fighting majors? Because that's...not good.

66, but, to be fair to Orr, 50 of those are from misconduct penalties. He's only been called for 8 minor penalties - though, considering his ice time, that's still not good.

Ah. I figured I was forgetting something.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:50:29 PM
I realize that we are getting our asses handed to us in all areas of the game, but this one really exposes how weak Rielly and Gardiner are in our own end.  Gardiner especially gives the puck up a lot.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:50:48 PM
Well other than Gretzky name me one. Lemieux took the body, Crosby, Ovechkin take the body. Orr played hard. Sure you have some that were soft but to some extent they battled for the puck and hard. If you watch Kessel he never stops and rubs someone out to get the puck. He usually skates by the player and tries to free or knock the puck loose. Terrible.

Lidstrom wasn't particularly physical. Neither was Robitaille. Or Gartner. I don't recall Brett Hull being a guy who got particularly involved in the physical side of the game. It's not something Jagr does a lot of. Lafleur wasn't big on it either, neither was Ron Francis. Lemieux used his size to his advantage on offence, but absolutely did not do so defensively. Crosby is very much in that mould, as well.

I'm not saying they played a hard hitting game or crash and bang play like Colton Orr but they would make body contact at least. Do I wanna see Kessel get hurt? No but I would like to see him fight at retrieving pucks off an opposition player. It's downright embarrassing what I see on a nightly basis. Has he played better defensively no doubt. Comes back for the most part but it's the play along ghsboards where he's brutal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 11, 2014, 11:52:05 PM
I'm not saying they played a hard hitting game or crash and bang play like Colton Orr but they would make body contact at least. Do I wanna see Kessel get hurt? No but I would like to see him fight at retrieving pucks off an opposition player. It's downright embarrassing what I see on a nightly basis. Has he played better defensively no doubt. Comes back for the most part but it's the play along ghsboards where he's brutal.

"Crash and bang" were the exact words you used to describe what made great players great.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 11, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
I'm not saying they played a hard hitting game or crash and bang play like Colton Orr but they would make body contact at least. Do I wanna see Kessel get hurt? No but I would like to see him fight at retrieving pucks off an opposition player. It's downright embarrassing what I see on a nightly basis. Has he played better defensively no doubt. Comes back for the most part but it's the play along ghsboards where he's brutal.

You know, yeah, we would like that but what he has been doing is working. I think we have to live with the fact he's not all things to all people.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:53:57 PM
We are getting owened.  Nolaned.  Whatever.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: barney_rebel on March 11, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
We stink dudes...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:54:25 PM
Good job Clarkson. WTF.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 11, 2014, 11:54:28 PM
Clarkson doing precisely nothing to prevent the guy from tipping the puck. Just brutal in his own end.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Damian on March 11, 2014, 11:54:54 PM
Clarkson......jeezuz man
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 11, 2014, 11:55:05 PM
We are getting owened.  Nolaned.  Whatever.

Lol.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 11:55:54 PM
That was awesome from Clarkson...he floated into a perfect screen of Reimer and took noone.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
I'm not saying they played a hard hitting game or crash and bang play like Colton Orr but they would make body contact at least.

Yeah, again, the idea that Mario Lemieux "took the body" as a defensive player just really isn't true. He was one of the least physical, least defensively involved players ever.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 11, 2014, 11:56:11 PM
Goal against? Get that fourth line out there for another.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stickytape on March 11, 2014, 11:56:19 PM
Yep, I'm going to bed.

EDIT: I'd like to add first, though, that I've been saying for a long time that Reimer is at his best when he's been playing for a long stretch.  He doesn't do well going in cold like this.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 11, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 11:56:46 PM
27-7 are the shots.  Poor Reimer.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 11, 2014, 11:57:21 PM

Man, I sure would prefer Mike Brown to Orr or McLaren.

I think Brown was with Nonis in Vancouver and Anaheim as well as Toronto.  Skates, hits and tries to score.  Kills penalties.

Orr has been useless as a fighter this year which I never thought would happen. he must get waived. 

McLaren has fought all the other teams super heavyweight goons.  Some of those goons pounded Brown which could have career ending.

Bodie has only 9 pims in the AHL this year.  Like Ashton, fighting is NOT his acumen.  Why both those players are used as fighters by Carlyle is disappointing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bill_Berg on March 11, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
At least they sucked early enough to allow a decent bedtime.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 11, 2014, 11:57:33 PM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.

Why bother?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 11, 2014, 11:57:50 PM
Screw you Leafs.  that was absolutely pathetic.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Potvin29 on March 11, 2014, 11:57:55 PM

27-7 are the shots.  Poor Reimer.

It's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:58:20 PM
Yeah, these two teams are not of the same class.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 11, 2014, 11:58:48 PM
I get losing. I don't get them being totally outworked by guys named "Wiggles".

Edit: Oh it's "Wingles". That makes me feel better.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sudafederov on March 11, 2014, 11:58:49 PM
We are getting owened.  Nolaned.  Whatever.

Alyn McCauleyed, Brad Boyesed, and a 1sted

Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: pnjunction on March 11, 2014, 11:59:09 PM
Didn't need a crystal ball to predict this just hope they can regroup for the next game (...or maybe when they come back east)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 11, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
McLaren has fought all the other teams super heavyweight goons.  Some of those goons pounded Brown which could have career ending.

There's no reason for Brown to engage those players. He's someone who can fight if a fight is necessary, which it never is, but actually contributes otherwise. If other teams dress their super-heavyweights and the Leafs don't, it's a net positive for the Leafs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:00:05 AM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.

Why bother?

I wouldn't either, but exactly how long do you leave Reimer out there to get embarrassed? And I don't think it's his fault either, by the way.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 12, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.

Only if he's playing on top line.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:00:48 AM
Unbelievable how horrible this team is playing man on man. Good quality chances to. Hey Randy why not call a timeout and let the whole works of them have it. If the goalies don't stand on their heads we're f***ed.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 12:01:16 AM
Maybe playing 8 forwards a night isn't a good idea when you are playing 3 games in 4 nights with all three games being against difficult opponents.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: pnjunction on March 12, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
Leafs outshot 64-20 since the 1st period of last game
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on March 12, 2014, 12:02:08 AM
Reimer will be gone before he actually gets a fair shake again.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 12, 2014, 12:02:13 AM
I have to say, the Leafs seem to play scared in front of Reimer, running around and trying to block shots at all costs to prevent anything on net. With Bernier they pretty often just get out of the way in teh knowledge there won't be a rebound.

I think that dynamic has been in part responsible for some of the truly awful performances we've seen with Reimer in net.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:02:28 AM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.

Why bother?

I wouldn't either, but exactly how long do you leave Reimer out there to get embarrassed? And I don't think it's his fault either, by the way.

I agree, but sometimes when you're the backup you get to take one in the neck for the team.  Lucky James, tonight's his night.  Bringing in Bernier would just make him that much less rested for LA.

You can blame the damn Olympics for this one.  3 games in 4 nights?  Not much chance there.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:04:52 AM
I wonder if poor Bernier is gonna be forced to come in here.

Why bother?

I wouldn't either, but exactly how long do you leave Reimer out there to get embarrassed? And I don't think it's his fault either, by the way.

I agree, but sometimes when you're the backup you get to take one in the neck for the team.  Lucky James, tonight's his night.  Bringing in Bernier would just make him that much less rested for LA.

I actually thought Reimer was a wise choice tonight anyway. Thought the whole "something to prove" thing might lift him to greatness. But he's just been kinda average and the Leafs have been horrible. Bad mix against San Jose.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 12, 2014, 12:04:54 AM
No shots on goal, sure, but they didn't give up any extra goals either, right?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 12, 2014, 12:07:41 AM
LOL that play by Raymond was absolutely hilarious.

I wonder if he considered whether it might be a good idea to attempt a shot on a clear-cut 2-0 breakaway down 4-1.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 12, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
Wow. Bad wow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
Haha, so Corsi crowd, was what Raymond just did technically directing a puck at the goal?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:08:45 AM

I can't wait for all of the momentum we're about to have.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:08:48 AM
Bowen (excitedly): "The Leafs with a 3-on-2 Clarkson....

And Raymond! ......"

That sequence was priceless.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
Good thing we find some humor watching these clowns some nights. Clarkson and Raymond priceless.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:10:21 AM
Poor WIGWAL.  And his Wifey......
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:11:10 AM
Cue the comeback we're on the PP.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stronger Than All on March 12, 2014, 12:11:14 AM
Come on Kessel get closer to 40
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:12:10 AM
You know, if they could get within two before the end of the second ...
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 12, 2014, 12:14:21 AM
The Sharks feed has been entertaining. They've been pretty annoyed with the officiating in this game.

But they really speak their mind which I like.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:14:47 AM
Poor WIGWAL.  And his Wifey......

Deep down, I'm inclined to think they're somehow to blame.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:14:58 AM
That sequence leading to the Burns breakaway was literally amazing.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 12:16:48 AM
Phaneuf is a goof.  An absolutley goof.  He gets walked around...again and then completely stops playing and tries to fight people for no reason. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:17:27 AM
Pretty meh call to give them a damn 5/3.  The reffing has sucked tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 12, 2014, 12:18:29 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:19:03 AM
Great kill!!
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sanecow on March 12, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
That PK was the highlight so far.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:19:17 AM
Pretty good kill on the 5 on 3 though.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:19:36 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 12:20:36 AM
this sucks.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:20:40 AM
Pretty good kill on the 5 on 3 though.

I know who my accolades are going to: Kulemin and Gunnar for the PK.  The only good thing the Leafs have done all game.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 12, 2014, 12:20:53 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.

Yup
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
That sequence leading to the Burns breakaway was literally amazing.

Yes it was.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:21:44 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.

Both lengths and amounts were too much especially the lengths.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:23:28 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.

Seriously though, you can't even compare the two. Phaneuf (good or bad) makes Clarkson look like a junior-A player.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 12:23:47 AM
Haha we have 12 shots through two periods. SJ has 31. Same story all season long.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 12, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.

The Phaneuf signing was acceptable. It's a bit disheartening that his play has deteriorated after starting the season really well and getting his extension, but at least he's a good D-man.

The Clarkson deal is atrocious.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: azzurri63 on March 12, 2014, 12:28:40 AM
Well if you had asked me if a split was good after these first two games I would definitely taken it. Let's hope for a better performance Thursday.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on March 12, 2014, 12:29:44 AM
god they're sucking tonight ...like not even playing the same game ...i was kind of hoping that they'd score on that 5 on 3 so i could officially give up on the game for tonight..but they didn't ..so now i feel obligated to watch some of the third period :)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:40:27 AM
G/d it Phaneuf....  >:(
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Oh man, if JVR is hurt, Phaneuf is in for a whirlwind of hate.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:41:23 AM
I mean...there really aren't words for that one.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Damian on March 12, 2014, 12:41:31 AM
Great hit by Phaneuf...oops, hold on now
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: pnjunction on March 12, 2014, 12:41:44 AM
Great a nice long injury to the top line to rub it in...and it's Phaneuf laid the hit what is up with injuring our players :(
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 12, 2014, 12:41:50 AM
Phaneuf is just an idiot of a hockey player for the most part. Mother of god.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Screwball on March 12, 2014, 12:41:55 AM
Wow, just wow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 12, 2014, 12:42:30 AM
Oh man, if JVR is hurt, Phaneuf is in for a whirlwind of hate.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Screwball on March 12, 2014, 12:42:35 AM
I had a root canal done today, and it was more enjoyable than watching this.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Strangelove on March 12, 2014, 12:42:41 AM
Phaneuf didn't even look particularly concerned. What the hell is wrong with him?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:43:06 AM
Not sure what Neon Dion was doing there.  :-\
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:43:44 AM
Not sure what Neon Dion was doing there.  :-\

Maybe JVR compared him to Clarkson.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:44:26 AM
Not sure what Neon Dion was doing there.  :-\

Maybe JVR compared him to Clarkson.

Nice.  8)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on March 12, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
Was that not one of the most idiotic plays that we've seen this year from Phaneuf?  He took out Lupul last year and now JVR.  His lack of foot speed is so apparent and is the cause of so many bad plays that he makes. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 12, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
Not sure what Neon Dion was doing there.  :-\

Maybe JVR compared him to Clarkson.

Nice.  8)

 ;D

Ouch
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:46:41 AM
That was out.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: pnjunction on March 12, 2014, 12:46:49 AM
Kessel better keep his head up skating back into the Leafs zone

5-1 sure why not
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 12:48:39 AM
Phaneuf -4 and injured JVR
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on March 12, 2014, 12:50:45 AM
wow..okay..good night guys..i hope they reward you with a thrilling comeback..but that's about all i can take for tonight ..let's hope they remember how to play again on thursday.. 

is it just me or does it seem that the leafs can never just get blown out in a game..they tend to compound it by having someone injured in the game as well..
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:51:37 AM
Phaneuf -4 and injured JVR

I've been laying off Dion recently but he is reverting to Captain Peanut mode, unfortunately.
Title: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Sudafederov on March 12, 2014, 12:52:44 AM
Phaneuf with the McCabian performance tonight
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 12:53:30 AM
Gardiner has been crappy on D for the most part but he's been our best offensive player.  Nobody else looks even remotely dangerous.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:53:37 AM
When the Leafs make the Stanley Cup Finals this year, I hope San Jose isn't there waiting for us.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: x.jr.benchwarmer on March 12, 2014, 12:53:46 AM
I have no idea why we signed Phaneuf for another 7 million a year and for 7 more years.

Don't forget that Nonis also felt Clarkson was another 7 year cornerstone player.  Terrible decisions for both.

The Phaneuf signing was acceptable. It's a bit disheartening that his play has deteriorated after starting the season really well and getting his extension, but at least he's a good D-man.

The Clarkson deal is atrocious.


Perhaps one of the questions that JVR will have in the quiet room is if he thinks that the Phaneuf signing was good for the Leafs? :)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Screwball on March 12, 2014, 12:54:57 AM
Good news that JVR is returning.  If he was out any length of time... well yeah, let's not talk about the fallout.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 12, 2014, 12:57:23 AM
Good news that JVR is returning.

Dion, you've got 10 minutes to line him up again tonight.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Look at the bright side, at least the Leafs weren't up 3-0 at the beginning of the third.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 12:58:06 AM
Phaneuf -4 and injured JVR

While being 6th among the defensemen in TOI.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 12:59:26 AM
Good news that JVR is returning.  If he was out any length of time... well yeah, let's not talk about the fallout.

Phaneuf is having a tough night. He can't even injure his teammates properly.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 12, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
Phaneuf -4 and injured JVR

While being 6th among the defensemen in TOI.

Wow, I hadn't noticed that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 12, 2014, 01:03:32 AM
Geez, San Jose, you can let up when you have a 3rd period lead.  The classy Leafs do it all the time.
Title: Re: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 12, 2014, 01:04:08 AM
Poor WIGWAL.  And his Wifey......

We showed up for two periods, more than the Leafs at least.

Watching the third from home.
Title: Re: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 12, 2014, 01:05:07 AM
Poor WIGWAL.  And his Wifey......

Deep down, I'm inclined to think they're somehow to blame.

Absolutely, pissed off I wasted coin on those tickets.

I take the blame for the loss.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Dappleganger on March 12, 2014, 01:06:32 AM
I like this Gleason fellow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 01:09:09 AM

Jake Gardiner!

Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 01:09:29 AM
We're playing against Vancouver right now...right?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 01:12:40 AM
Get lost Phaneuf.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 01:13:42 AM
The Sharks are playing the Leafs with all of the seriousness, intensity and competitiveness of me playing a game of floor hockey with my 6 year old nephew.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 01:14:31 AM
I do like Reimer's competitiveness.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Britishbulldog on March 12, 2014, 01:15:14 AM
I like this Gleason fellow.

I was just going to post that.  I was so frustrated that the Leafs traded for him.  I actually like him...and for more than just fighting. It is his willingness to block shots, protect the goalie and team mates.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 01:15:37 AM
Get lost Phaneuf.

He's honestly been embarrassing the whole game.  He had at least three shifts where he had no intention of playing hockey and tried to start a fight with guys who had no interest in engaging him. 
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 01:16:54 AM

Hockey really needs to institute something like Football where the teams just walk off the field when it's over even if there's time left on the clock.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 12, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
Two minutes left and they have stars  out on the PP.

Real classy, ugh I'm gonna get so much abuse at work tomorrow.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 01:21:07 AM
Two minutes left and they have stars  out on the PP.

Real classy, ugh I'm gonna get so much abuse at work tomorrow.

Don't worry.  These guys always look like worldbeaters in the regs.  They'll choke in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on March 12, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
Paul Ranger played 21:33 and actually managed to be a +1.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 12, 2014, 03:39:10 AM
"It was a moment where they play yesterday and we come out and we want to get on top of them a little bit and catch them a little tired," Pavelski said. "We were able to get the lead early."

"They played a lot in Anaheim last night so we wanted to wear them down," Sharks coach Todd McLellan said. "We felt that we could go at them with two lines, both Cooch and Jumbo’s. It didn’t really matter."

"It seemed like there was one puck and they had it," Carlyle said. "We didn’t get a chance to play with it."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/pavelski-scores-two-as-sharks-take-it-to-leafs/
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 12, 2014, 03:43:26 AM
Hoping for a better effort against the Kings on Thursday.  A win, too.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zee on March 12, 2014, 06:58:18 AM
Pretty much what I expected. Leafs play 3rd game in 4 nights on a travel day and Sharks rested. Amazed that people are surprised by the result.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 12, 2014, 07:47:14 AM
The team never comes to play when Reimer is in net. If I were him I would be glad to be traded or signed somewhere else, that was painful to watch.

I did notice that there was alot of bumping the goalie with nothing being called. I was under the impression that the goalie in his cease was off limits. I guess I was wrong.

I began to hate Wingels, IMO he throw an elbow at Holland, and then picks a fight with Lupul, a "pussy" move. It will be nice to see SJS lose in the second round this year. Just like normal.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 12, 2014, 08:21:58 AM
Good thing I decided to play Titanfall and go to bed early instead of watching this one.

Orr in over Ashton? Four fights and Orr didn't have a single one? I bet he made everybody feel bigger though.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 12, 2014, 08:23:55 AM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/PinkWelltodoGharial.gif)

How?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stickytape on March 12, 2014, 09:22:14 AM
Glad I missed most of the game.  Even watching the highlights was brutal.  Even considering the circumstances (played a hard game last night, on the road, late start, Reimer hasn't seen action in forever) I expected a little better.

Beauty goals by Gardiner/Raymond, though.  At least there's that.  On to the Kings.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 12, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
I expect, a turn around game in LA.  The last time TO was beat this badly they went on a six game winning streak. Just saying
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/PinkWelltodoGharial.gif)

How?

Eklund reporting Phanuef will be suspended for two games for that hit.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Stickytape on March 12, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
How?

Uhm, it's called "leadership":  Phaneuf was just making an example out of JVR to motivate the team.  He's sending a message: "Play better or next time it'll be Kessel!" 

All the best team captains do that, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Corn Flake on March 12, 2014, 09:46:54 AM
The team never comes to play when Reimer is in net.

The back to back had a lot more to do with it.  I don't think the team intentionally doesn't show up because Reimer is the goalie.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Not that other teams fan bases didn't have enough material to mock us with but this just puts us over the top. HFBoards is having a public online holiday just to make fun of 'the hit' today.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 12, 2014, 10:07:50 AM
Pretty much what I expected. Leafs play 3rd game in 4 nights on a travel day and Sharks rested. Amazed that people are surprised by the result.

I think people are more disappointed with the effort than surprised by the result. It was an exceptionally poor performance.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 10:11:43 AM
Playing the night before, being fatigued was a factor no doubt. But the reason we lost, the reason we got dominated in all aspects of the game is because SJ is on a whole other level of play. That is a team that could win the Stanley Cup. Leafs had no chance from puck drop.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Deebo on March 12, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Playing the night before, being fatigued was a factor no doubt. But the reason we lost, the reason we got dominated in all aspects of the game is because SJ is on a whole other level of play. That is a team that could win the Stanley Cup. Leafs had no chance from puck drop.

They also did it to the Penguins a couple nights ago, another team that could win the Stanley Cup. The Sharks outshot them 47-22.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 11:04:02 AM
Pretty much what I expected. Leafs play 3rd game in 4 nights on a travel day and Sharks rested. Amazed that people are surprised by the result.

I think people are more disappointed with the effort than surprised by the result. It was an exceptionally poor performance.

Yeah, fatigue certainly played into the loss but no team should be passing around like the Sharks were last night against an NHL team that is putting in a solid effort.  The number of times the Leafs gave up point blank scoring chances because they were out of position was awful. 

Reimer did not have a good game, especially the first period but the team absolutely quit on him. 

Phaneuf better be injured given how he is playing right now because top defenseman CANNOT play the way he did.  He wasn't just having an off night, he was actively detrimental to the team.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: nutman on March 12, 2014, 11:06:47 AM
Why did Carlyle take kulimen  off the Kadri line???????????????
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 11:19:44 AM

Phaneuf better be injured given how he is playing right now because top defenseman CANNOT play the way he did.  He wasn't just having an off night, he was actively detrimental to the team.

What is the word, if anything, on whether he got injured over the Olympic break?  I thought I read some speculation on that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 12, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
What is the word, if anything, on whether he got injured over the Olympic break?  I thought I read some speculation on that.

He's been held out of a bunch of practices for "maintenance" and Carlyle himself has said Phaneuf's got bumps and bruises.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 12, 2014, 11:53:41 AM
What is the word, if anything, on whether he got injured over the Olympic break?  I thought I read some speculation on that.

He's been held out of a bunch of practices for "maintenance" and Carlyle himself has said Phaneuf's got bumps and bruises.

Thanks.

He needs to be limited in TOI even more than he is now, then. 

I was surprised to see Ranger up over 20 last night, and a +1.  All of a sudden he's becoming the d-man many had hoped he would be at the start of the year.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 12, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
He needs to be limited in TOI even more than he is now, then.

The stretch from the end of the Olympic break to now is easily the worst I've ever seen him play. The team is somewhat comfortably in the playoff spot. If we want any chance of winning a round we need Phaneuf to play like he was at the beginning of the season. So if having him take a couple of weeks off will allow his injury to heal that's what we need to do.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: L K on March 12, 2014, 12:27:59 PM
What is the word, if anything, on whether he got injured over the Olympic break?  I thought I read some speculation on that.

He's been held out of a bunch of practices for "maintenance" and Carlyle himself has said Phaneuf's got bumps and bruises.

He needs to  sit out a game or two if this is what he is going to do.  These games mean something because the playoffs aren't a lock but the playoffs will mean nothing if Phaneuf is hobbling around the ice in the 1st round.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: RedLeaf on March 12, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
Pretty much what I expected. Leafs play 3rd game in 4 nights on a travel day and Sharks rested. Amazed that people are surprised by the result.

I think people are more disappointed with the effort than surprised by the result. It was an exceptionally poor performance.

I think the effort starts to decay when your goalie lets in a few softies. Coming off a spirited all-out effort the night before, their legs started to go, and before you knew it, it was over. Reimer did not look good at all, and while he's not solely to blame for the end result, his play certainly took the air out of their sails early last night.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: LuncheonMeat on March 12, 2014, 01:58:48 PM
What is the word, if anything, on whether he got injured over the Olympic break?  I thought I read some speculation on that.

He's been held out of a bunch of practices for "maintenance" and Carlyle himself has said Phaneuf's got bumps and bruises.

Thanks.

He needs to be limited in TOI even more than he is now, then. 

I was surprised to see Ranger up over 20 last night, and a +1.  All of a sudden he's becoming the d-man many had hoped he would be at the start of the year.

I thought Ranger played a great game against Anaheim, and did OK again last night.  It's nice to finally see that, and I hope it's not a sign that he's finding his game.  The Leafs need that desparately down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bullfrog on March 12, 2014, 02:48:03 PM
I just watched the highlights and it didn't seem like Reimer played as badly as described. It sure would have been nice to see him make the big save on some of those. The biggest problem I saw was he was much too quick to flop on to the ice. In fairness, this opinion is only based on the game in six highlights though. He surely was abandoned by the team though.

Phaneuf, based only on the highlights: yikes. And I've been one of his biggest supporters.

uh...yay for Gardiner?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Jalili on March 12, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
I'm giving Phaneuf the benefit of the doubt. I think he's nursing an injury of some kind.

If it's the sort of thing that can be healed by resting, I'd sit him out for the Kings game which would give him a break until Sunday to make his return.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Zee on March 12, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
I'm giving Phaneuf the benefit of the doubt. I think he's nursing an injury of some kind.

If it's the sort of thing that can be healed by resting, I'd sit him out for the Kings game which would give him a break until Sunday to make his return.

So if Phaneuf's nursing an injury he goes out and tries to injure JVR?  *shakes head*
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: freer on March 12, 2014, 03:42:50 PM
I'm giving Phaneuf the benefit of the doubt. I think he's nursing an injury of some kind.

If it's the sort of thing that can be healed by resting, I'd sit him out for the Kings game which would give him a break until Sunday to make his return.

So if Phaneuf's nursing an injury he goes out and tries to injure JVR?  *shakes head*

I did like the hit. But this stuff happens all the time. I remember watching Steve Thomas knocking Rick Viave out cold by accident.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
I'm giving Phaneuf the benefit of the doubt. I think he's nursing an injury of some kind.

If it's the sort of thing that can be healed by resting, I'd sit him out for the Kings game which would give him a break until Sunday to make his return.

So if Phaneuf's nursing an injury he goes out and tries to injure JVR?  *shakes head*

I did like the hit. But this stuff happens all the time. I remember watching Steve Thomas knocking Rick Viave out cold by accident.

Not all the time. That Steve Thomas hit was many years ago. Recent memory is of Ovechkin trying to hit Malkin and hitting Semin (i think) instead. We are talking intentional bone crushing hits.

Teammates run into each other all the time.

How Phanuef missed Marleau is beyond me.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Potvin29 on March 12, 2014, 05:05:13 PM
Not all the time.

I seem to recall Don Cherry's Rock 'Em Sock 'Em videos never having trouble amassing a fairly lengthy section on teammates hitting one another by accident.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: bustaheims on March 12, 2014, 05:23:33 PM
Not all the time.

I seem to recall Don Cherry's Rock 'Em Sock 'Em videos never having trouble amassing a fairly lengthy section on teammates hitting one another by accident.

I'm pretty sure the Leafs have had a couple others this season. It's just that, when they don't result in an injury or an important goal, they tend not to be particularly memorable.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 12, 2014, 06:18:35 PM

There's a pretty big difference between two teammates running into each other, which we see pretty frequently, and one teammate hitting another teammate with a bodycheck.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: 13th fan on March 12, 2014, 07:00:08 PM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/PinkWelltodoGharial.gif)

How?
Dion!!!
(http://t.qkme.me/3lcd.jpg)
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: Bonsixx on March 12, 2014, 08:47:57 PM
I defend Phaneuf a lot, since I am surrounded by nothing but Habs, Wings and Flyers fans, unfortunately. He's not perfect, but certainly a helluva lot better than they give him credit for.

I haven't been able to defend this. It was a bone-headed decision, and poorly timed on top of that.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 12, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
Can you imagine the outrage had JVR would've been concussed?

Serious question, since NHL is concerned about player safety, intentional or not, can the NHL ever suspend a player for hitting a teammate?
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 13, 2014, 02:53:54 AM
I defend Phaneuf a lot, since I am surrounded by nothing but Habs, Wings and Flyers fans, unfortunately. He's not perfect, but certainly a helluva lot better than they give him credit for.

I haven't been able to defend this. It was a bone-headed decision, and poorly timed on top of that.


Exactly.  To top it all off, one can call Phaneuf a reckless fool for even attempting to hit anyone, least of all his own teammate.  For heaven's sake,  it was moreso a 'mental' mistake.
Title: Re: Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590
Post by: mc on March 13, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
Orr should've at least gone over to Dion.