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Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Jacques Strap on July 11, 2011, 01:03:21 PM
C'mon, you know you were looking for it!

Dear HR Summer Dress Code,

If it is ok for me to wear jeans and a t-shirt in the office, and women can wear skirts of any length, why is it a fashion crime for me to wear a polo and golf shorts instead of sweating my balls off in dockers?

Sincerely,

Jacques Strap
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 11, 2011, 01:07:30 PM
Fear of fly eyes maybe?  ;D

(http://photoequalizer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/yellow_fly_eyes_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: pnjunction on July 11, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
Oh lame my boss and I both wear shorts from about April to October.  He doesn't even wear polos and knee length shorts as I do he wears 'half-thigh' shorts and ratty old t-shirts lol.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 11, 2011, 03:33:53 PM
Two words - baby powder
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on July 11, 2011, 04:07:47 PM
My apartment building. I have never lived in a place where the power goes out at least once every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 11, 2011, 05:14:09 PM
Two words - baby powder

Where do you get the babies to grind up?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 11, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
Two words - baby powder

Where do you get the babies to grind up?

Frank.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: cw on July 11, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
What about non-complaints?

Rupert Murdoch's UK media world is crumbling and I have absolutely no complaints about it (ignoring what that media did to their victims, of course)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jul/11/news-world-hacking-scandal-live

Murdoch owns among other things, FOX News, who have I great disdain for.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: BlueWhiteBlood on July 11, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
What about non-complaints?

Rupert Murdoch's UK media world is crumbling and I have absolutely no complaints about it (ignoring what that media did to their victims, of course)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jul/11/news-world-hacking-scandal-live

Murdoch owns among other things, FOX News, who have I great disdain for.

Here, here. Now if they could get the rest of the MSM, we'll be a better planet going forward.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 11, 2011, 06:49:38 PM
:-( i'm down to 0 posts?
 :'(
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 11, 2011, 06:51:07 PM
AND
 :-[

I've lost my Moderator status too......   *sobs uncontrollably* (you know, like a sens fan)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Boston Leaf on July 11, 2011, 08:38:12 PM
Listening to Chris Berman call the stupid HR derby :o
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 11, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
Listening to Chris Berman call the stupid HR derby :o

Yeah... What was with that dumb a$$ Canada comment?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 11, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Yeah... What was with that dumb a$$ Canada comment?

The going on a Holiday one?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 11, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
Yeah... What was with that dumb a$$ Canada comment?

The going on a Holiday one?

Yeah... He lost me.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 11, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Yeah... He lost me.

Matt Holliday was the hitter. He said "That ball is going on a Holiday as they say in Canada."

Holiday as a synonym for Vacation is pretty uncommon in the States.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: riff raff on July 11, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
Listening to Chris Berman call the stupid HR derby :o

Listening to them, one would think they had never seen home runs before.....
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 11, 2011, 10:51:51 PM
Yeah... He lost me.

Matt Holliday was the hitter. He said "That ball is going on a Holiday as they say in Canada."

Holiday as a synonym for Vacation is pretty uncommon in the States.

Ah. Cute AND annoying at the same time. I didn't think that was possible.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on July 11, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
What about non-complaints?

Rupert Murdoch's UK media world is crumbling and I have absolutely no complaints about it (ignoring what that media did to their victims, of course)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jul/11/news-world-hacking-scandal-live

Murdoch owns among other things, FOX News, who have I great disdain for.


Agree!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 12, 2011, 09:02:23 AM
I guess this can take the place of the Useless thread for now.

My complaint is that my midmorning coffee kills my appetite so that I am not looking forward to lunch. HATE THAT!!!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2011, 09:41:04 AM
Summer.  I hate it.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on July 12, 2011, 10:03:14 AM
Murdoch owns among other things, FOX News, who have I great disdain for.

But without Fox News, the Daily Show wouldn't be as entertaining.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 12, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
I hate how my body buzzes right next to where my cell phone sits, even when the cell isn't buzzing on its own.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: oldrugbyguy on July 12, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
Hate when I wake up sore and hung over then remember I stayed home and did not drink or do anything deemed physical
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 12, 2011, 11:36:41 AM
Summer.  I hate it.

Yeah. Right up there with beer, ice cream and prime rib.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 12, 2011, 12:18:42 PM
Summer.  I hate it.

Yeah. Right up there with beer, ice cream and prime rib.

Don't forget tank tops and shorts/skirts. HATE those.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
Summer.  I hate it.

Yeah. Right up there with beer, ice cream and prime rib.

Don't forget tank tops and shorts/skirts. HATE those.

Fermented vegetation, frozen bovine mammary excretions, meat, fire, scantily clad female forms are all well and good.

I was more referring to the lack of any major sporting events this summer, namely NHL Hockey, World Cup or Euro Cup.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 12, 2011, 02:05:18 PM
Clearly, you're forgetting about the Women's World Cup. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 12, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
Clearly, you're forgetting about the Women's World Cup. ;)

The US / Brazil game was decent you chauvinist pig

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 12, 2011, 05:22:17 PM
Clearly, you're forgetting about the Women's World Cup. ;)

The US / Brazil game was decent you chauvinist pig

I fell asleep.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 12, 2011, 05:53:23 PM
Clearly, you're forgetting about the Women's World Cup. ;)

The US / Brazil game was decent you chauvinist pig

I fell asleep.

Geezer
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on July 13, 2011, 03:50:33 PM
All these job cuts ford are doing are such bs, they aren't going to solve the problem proportionally the deficit is much higher and all you are going to accomplish is making the services complete shit.  You need to increase revenue but noooooooooo you can't ever raise taxes even if it solves the problem. 

*disclaimer I don't actually pay many taxes at the moment*
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 13, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
$200k of tax payers money to reverse something that cost $410k to implement.

Bravo Ford!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 13, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
$200k of tax payers money to reverse something that cost $410k to implement.

Bravo Ford!

Gravy train!

Quote from: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110713/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-jarvis-bike-lane-battle-110713/20110713/?hub=TorontoNewHome
The Jarvis lane cost $75,000 to install a year ago and will cost about $200,000 to remove.

Sound financial planning!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 05:01:53 PM
Gas stations, etc. who have a posted policy about not taking $100 bills. So, if I had no credit card and there was no ATM, and all I had was that bill, I guess their options would be that or nothing? What if I said, "sorry about your luck but this is legal tender so if you're not taking it, thanks for the free gas, I guess?"
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on July 13, 2011, 07:28:11 PM
I don't get it either. As far as I know its against the law to refuse legal tender. If businesses are worried about taking fake tender they should invest in bill checkers, train their employees to refuse fake bills etc
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on July 13, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
I don't get it either. As far as I know its against the law to refuse legal tender.

I thought so too, but apparantley a retailer is allowed to refuse bank notes:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/count-contre/faq-eng.htm

Quote
What can I do if a retailer refuses to accept my $100 note? Can retailers legally refuse notes?
 
The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change.
 
We encourage retailers to use security features; this is more customer-friendly than refusing notes for counterfeiting concerns and it’s also a more effective protection against counterfeiting losses.
 
There are several reasons why a retailer may choose to refuse notes (e.g. security for 24-hour operations; maintaining float).
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on July 13, 2011, 10:17:06 PM
$200k of tax payers money to reverse something that cost $410k to implement.

Bravo Ford!

Gravy train!

Quote from: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110713/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-jarvis-bike-lane-battle-110713/20110713/?hub=TorontoNewHome
The Jarvis lane cost $75,000 to install a year ago and will cost about $200,000 to remove.

Sound financial planning!

I'm going to enjoy when Rob Ford goes after those nasty summer festivals and bans marathons.  Nothing says successful tourist city like cutting the funding out from under many of the events that draw people into the city.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 10:23:26 PM
I don't get it either. As far as I know its against the law to refuse legal tender.

I thought so too, but apparantley a retailer is allowed to refuse bank notes:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/count-contre/faq-eng.htm

Quote
What can I do if a retailer refuses to accept my $100 note? Can retailers legally refuse notes?
 
The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change.
 
We encourage retailers to use security features; this is more customer-friendly than refusing notes for counterfeiting concerns and it’s also a more effective protection against counterfeiting losses.
 
There are several reasons why a retailer may choose to refuse notes (e.g. security for 24-hour operations; maintaining float).

Sorry, I just had to redo this... The last one was full of terrible grammar....  Too many Coronas tonight!

Anyway, that's just insane. The law states; "The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change."

Okay, so because the seller posts a sign a may or not see or agree to ("private agreement" implies I've agreed in advance) the seller can refuse legal tender? I'm sorry, good luck with that in a court of law. I mean, isn't it rather like me driving around with a sign on my dash saying "Sorry, I only pay for fuel with 100s.. Sorry for the inconvienence." Same thing, right?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on July 13, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
Sorry, I just had to redo this... The last one was full of terrible grammar....  Too many Coronas tonight!

Anyway, that's just insane. The law states; "The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change."

Okay, so because the seller posts a sign a may or not see or agree to ("private agreement" implies I've agreed in advance) the seller can refuse legal tender? I'm sorry, good luck with that in a court of law.

Yes, But I don't know how a gas station would refuse a bank note if you've already pumped gas and it's the only money you have.

But in a convience store for instance, it is legal for a store owner to not take a bank note, at least according to the link from the RCMP that I posted.

And how would you even bring that to court?

I mean, isn't it rather like me driving around with a sign on my dash saying "Sorry, I only pay for fuel with 100s.. Sorry for the inconvienence." Same thing, right?

It says you can refuse a bank note as change, not that you can insist to use a bank note.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 13, 2011, 10:55:46 PM
Sorry, I just had to redo this... The last one was full of terrible grammar....  Too many Coronas tonight!

Anyway, that's just insane. The law states; "The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change."

Okay, so because the seller posts a sign a may or not see or agree to ("private agreement" implies I've agreed in advance) the seller can refuse legal tender? I'm sorry, good luck with that in a court of law. I mean, isn't it rather like me driving around with a sign on my dash saying "Sorry, I only pay for fuel with 100s.. Sorry for the inconvienence." Same thing, right?

Not accepting certain bills falls within the proprietors right to refuse service to whomever they choose to. In a sense, once you choose to fill your car with their product, you're agreeing to whatever stipulations they've put on that transaction. If all you have is bills they won't accept, you have, in essence, entered into the transaction in bad faith.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
It says you can refuse a bank note as change, not that you can insist to use a bank note.

So I can say, buy $10.00 worth of gas, pay with a $20.00 and demand the gas station gives me a $10.00 credit on my credit card or other form of payment because I have a personal issue with bank notes that come from service stations? In theory, that's the same thing right? The service station (or anywhere else with this dumb policy) has issue with the notes from the public. Finw so what is good for the goose is good for the gander, right? 
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 11:10:21 PM

how would you even bring that to court?


I'm just invisioning a scenario where a heated conflict arises and the cops are called. Perhaps I should have asked what a cop might do. I suspect he's say to the owner "just take the $100.00 and shut the hell up" but what do I know.   
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 13, 2011, 11:12:58 PM
Anyway, that's just insane. The law states; "The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change."

Okay, so because the seller posts a sign a may or not see or agree to ("private agreement" implies I've agreed in advance) the seller can refuse legal tender? I'm sorry, good luck with that in a court of law. I mean, isn't it rather like me driving around with a sign on my dash saying "Sorry, I only pay for fuel with 100s.. Sorry for the inconvienence." Same thing, right?

It's the same in a sense but certainly not the way you seem to think. If you don't agree to the sellers conditions you can take your business elsewhere. If they don't agree to your "Hundreds or nothing policy" they're free to refuse to sell. Neither of you have an obligation to enter into a transaction with a method of payment you find acceptable. The gas station is free to reserve their product for people paying in smaller bills, you're free to reserve your money for merchants who take larger denominations.

You seem to be arguing that because they have the right not to enter into a transaction they don't want, you should have the right to force them into a transaction they don't want. Not exactly the same thing. 
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 13, 2011, 11:17:06 PM
It says you can refuse a bank note as change, not that you can insist to use a bank note.

So I can say, buy $10.00 worth of gas, pay with a $20.00 and demand the gas station gives me a $10.00 credit on my credit card or other form of payment because I have a personal issue with bank notes that come from service stations? In theory, that's the same thing right? The service station (or anywhere else with this dumb policy) has issue with the notes from the public. Finw so what is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

Again, no. You both have the right to agree or refuse to any transaction.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 11:19:31 PM
It's the same in a sense but certainly not the way you seem to think. If you don't agree to the sellers conditions you can take your business elsewhere. If they don't agree to your "Hundreds or nothing policy" they're free to refuse to sell. Neither of you have an obligation to enter into a transaction with a method of payment you find acceptable. The gas station is free to reserve their product for people paying in smaller bills, you're free to reserve your money for merchants who take larger denominations.

You seem to be arguing that because they have the right not to enter into a transaction they don't want, you should have the right to force them into a transaction they don't want. Not exactly the same thing.

What if I missed their sign and didn't know about their policy and all I had was the $100? Moreover, just about every station lets you pot their product in you vehicle before you settle up. Maybe I should say, "oops sorry, didn't know about your policy... I'll tell you what, why don't you grab one of those slurpie straws, sport and start suckin?... You can have your fuel back."
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 13, 2011, 11:30:55 PM
What if I missed their sign and didn't know about their policy and all I had was the $100? Moreover, just about every station lets you pot their product in you vehicle before you settle up. Maybe I should say, "oops sorry, didn't know about your policy... I'll tell you what, why don't you grab one of those slurpie straws, sport and start suckin?... You can have your fuel back."

Best bet to avoid an unpleasant scene? If it's a place you're not familiar with, go on and check ahead. Either way, you missing their sign doesn't force them to enter into a transaction they don't want. As the quote says, they're allowed to refuse whatever payment they want, even bank notes. What if you're a grizzled 1890's prospector and want to pay them in freshly panned gold? What if you want to trade them two chickens and a goat? What if you missed the price and assumed your tank of gas would cost 15 bucks instead of forty and that's all you have?

The answer is the same. They don't have to do business they don't want and you have a responsibility to know the terms and conditions of the sale.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on July 13, 2011, 11:33:56 PM
What's the point of printing so many $100 bills and putting them into circulation if a growing majority of places won't accept them? 
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
I suppose part of it is when I'm paying $80.00 (or so) these days to fill my tank, it seems beyond silly to me that gas stations won't take the $100.00 bill. I  mean, I could understand a place where the average transaction was $20/$30 or less but to me, it's just stupid that I can be routinely charged close to the exact amount of currency that they won't take.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 13, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
What's the point of printing so many $100 bills and putting them into circulation if a growing majority of places won't accept them?

Indeed... and I've noticed more and more ATMs are spitting out $100s these days too as opposed to just $20s.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 13, 2011, 11:39:09 PM
What's the point of printing so many $100 bills and putting them into circulation if a growing majority of places won't accept them?

Isn't there some sort of law about the physical amount of cash a bank has to have on hand in relation to their total deposits? In that case, the physical representation of large sums of money, it could be purposeful even if it's money that doesn't get spent.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 14, 2011, 12:07:49 AM
What if I missed their sign and didn't know about their policy and all I had was the $100? Moreover, just about every station lets you pot their product in you vehicle before you settle up. Maybe I should say, "oops sorry, didn't know about your policy... I'll tell you what, why don't you grab one of those slurpie straws, sport and start suckin?... You can have your fuel back."

The onus is on you to understand the terms of purchase, especially when they're clearly stated. If you can't abide by the terms that you have legally agreed to by filling your tank with their product, they're within their rights to press charges - odds are they won't, but, they still could.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
What if I missed their sign and didn't know about their policy and all I had was the $100? Moreover, just about every station lets you pot their product in you vehicle before you settle up. Maybe I should say, "oops sorry, didn't know about your policy... I'll tell you what, why don't you grab one of those slurpie straws, sport and start suckin?... You can have your fuel back."

The onus is on you to understand the terms of purchase, especially when they're clearly stated. If you can't abide by the terms that you have legally agreed to by filling your tank with their product, they're within their rights to press charges - odds are they won't, but, they still could.

You know why they wouldn't? Because the charges would never stick - ever. Better chance of the Leafs winning 15 consecutive cups in my opinion starting this year. The whole thing is just so absurd.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
Oh I know. I suppose I couls just give them 8300 pennies each time. Or do people get charged for using those these days too?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 14, 2011, 12:27:13 AM
The whole thing is just so absurd.

I know. What is the world coming to when people selling a product get to set the terms of sale. Or get upset when people take the product and refuse to the terms?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 12:31:36 AM
The whole thing is just so absurd.

I know. What is the world coming to when people selling a product get to set the terms of sale. Or get upset when people take the product and refuse to the terms?

It's bills, Nik. Canadian bills. Not furskins.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 08:46:33 AM
This thread has become entertaining. I would get some popcorn, but I'm not a big fan.

Personally, I prefer the smaller bills for that reason - a lot of places don't take 100s and even 50s.

Luckily my gas bill hasn't hit 80 bucks. Yet. :)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 14, 2011, 08:49:36 AM
It's bills, Nik. Canadian bills. Not furskins.

It could be big shiny diamonds and I'd still be allowed to not sell you something of mine if I didn't want to.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 08:50:10 AM
This thread has become entertaining. I would get some popcorn, but I'm not a big fan.

Personally, I prefer the smaller bills for that reason - a lot of places don't take 100s and even 50s.

Luckily my gas bill hasn't hit 80 bucks. Yet. :)

It's all pary of my my mini-van hell. - $80.00 at the pump and juice boxes and strangely preserved six-moth-old McDonalds french fries everywhere.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 08:53:05 AM
I bet that's what the cockroaches feed on after everything else has been devoured post-armageddon. :)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 08:59:37 AM
It's bills, Nik. Canadian bills. Not furskins.

It could be big shiny diamonds and I'd still be allowed to not sell you something of mine if I didn't want to.

You're complaining about people complaining in a complaint thread.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 14, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
You're complaining about people complaining in a complaint thread.

I'm pretty sure I'm just cracking wise about specific complaints. You seem to be complaining about people complaining about people complaining. In a complaint thread.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
I bet that's what the cockroaches feed on after everything else has been devoured post-armageddon. :)

 :)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 09:25:44 AM
You're complaining about people complaining in a complaint thread.

I'm pretty sure I'm just cracking wise about specific complaints. You seem to be complaining about people complaining about people complaining. In a complaint thread.

I'm just having fun with your complaints about other people's complaints, in the complaint thread.

Although, Floyd's complaint very much reminds of a lot of these:

http://www.reddit.com/r/firstworldproblems/
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
You're complaining about people complaining in a complaint thread.

I'm pretty sure I'm just cracking wise about specific complaints. You seem to be complaining about people complaining about people complaining. In a complaint thread.

I'm just having fun with your complaints about other people's complaints, in the complaint thread.

Although, Floyd's complaint very much reminds of a lot of these:

http://www.reddit.com/r/firstworldproblems/

"I forgot to lick the lid of my yogurt cup and missed out on some extra yogurt."

God, I hate when that happens. Especially when it's ice cream or pudding.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 14, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
Inattentive drivers with their cell phones still firmly planted on their ear.... you know you can get a bluetooth earpiece for like, $11 these days... jeezuz people
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 10:04:47 AM
Inattentive drivers with their cell phones still firmly planted on their ear.... you know you can get a bluetooth earpiece for like, $11 these days... jeezuz people

I like my wife's trick. - Shove the phone between her boobs and use the speaker function.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 14, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Oh I know. I suppose I couls just give them 8300 pennies each time. Or do people get charged for using those these days too?

There are actually limits on how many of certain types of coins you can use in a single transaction.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 14, 2011, 10:08:03 AM
You know why they wouldn't? Because the charges would never stick - ever. Better chance of the Leafs winning 15 consecutive cups in my opinion starting this year. The whole thing is just so absurd.

The law would be on their side, so, I'm not sure how you could say the charges would never stick. The real reason they wouldn't is that the legal fees for pursuing a case of this nature would exceed the value of the gas you put into your car.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 10:08:27 AM
Oh I know. I suppose I couls just give them 8300 pennies each time. Or do people get charged for using those these days too?

There are actually limits on how many of certain types of coins you can use in a single transaction.

(http://blog.obiefernandez.com/.a/6a00e54fdca91188330148c6c0e957970c-800wi)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 10:19:38 AM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?

The servers must be in the central time zone.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?

The servers must be in the central time zone.

Figured something weird was going on. I came in here a few times looking for new posts, but seeing time stamps from an hour ago. Weird! :)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 14, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
glad I cant tell time
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: lamajama on July 14, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?

The servers must be in the central time zone.

I think you can adjust the time shown in the Profile section.

In the meantime:

- drivers stopping as they enter the freeway
- drivers doing the limit or less in the fast lane, holding up numerous cars and being totally oblivious
- drivers suddenly deciding that the far right lane is where they need to be
- drivers slowing down to a near-dead stop to turn into a street

I feel a little better.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: donkeyy0 on July 14, 2011, 12:41:34 PM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?

The servers must be in the central time zone.

I think you can adjust the time shown in the Profile section.

In the meantime:

- drivers stopping as they enter the freeway
- drivers doing the limit or less in the fast lane, holding up numerous cars and being totally oblivious
- drivers suddenly deciding that the far right lane is where they need to be
- drivers slowing down to a near-dead stop to turn into a street

I feel a little better.

That. x a million.

And then they have the nerve to cuss and swear and scream at you as they almost run you off the road in their pickup truck while they cut across 3 lanes of rush hour traffic without putting a signal on.

And dude... What on earth would cause you to make an aggressive movement towards me for? Stop ignoring traffic laws and get some damn self awareness. You aren't tough. You aren't smart. You are an idiot. Try not to have a heart attack after you make your turn when you realize there's other cars on the road.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 14, 2011, 12:51:23 PM
Anyone else notice that the time listed in the posts is one hour behind the actual time?

The servers must be in the central time zone.

I think you can adjust the time shown in the Profile section.

In the meantime:

- drivers stopping as they enter the freeway
- drivers doing the limit or less in the fast lane, holding up numerous cars and being totally oblivious
- drivers suddenly deciding that the far right lane is where they need to be
- drivers slowing down to a near-dead stop to turn into a street

I feel a little better.

U-eys from the left hand turn lane at major intersections...
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: lamajama on July 14, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
Two cars in parallel on a two lane road driving the same slow speed.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on July 14, 2011, 01:12:29 PM
Two cars in parallel on a two lane road driving the same slow speed.

Transport trucks that move into the left lane.......
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 01:28:19 PM
Two cars in parallel on a two lane road driving the same slow speed.

Transport trucks that move into the left lane.......

and go 2 kph faster than the transport they are passing.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on July 14, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
Oh I know. I suppose I couls just give them 8300 pennies each time. Or do people get charged for using those these days too?

There are actually limits on how many of certain types of coins you can use in a single transaction.

(http://blog.obiefernandez.com/.a/6a00e54fdca91188330148c6c0e957970c-800wi)


Yep....it's part of the Currency Act. a business can choose to accept the overages, but they can indeed refuse to accept it. If I recall, there was a guy in Quebec a while back who tried to pay his taxes with a quarter million pennies, and was charged.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-52/page-1.html?term=payment%20in%20coins#s-8.

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Limitation

(2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins:
(a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars;
(b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar;
(c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar;
(d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and
(e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent.


And according to the RCMP, any business can choose to accept whatever form of payment they want:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/count-contre/faq-eng.htm#legal)

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There must be mutual consent between the retailer and the consumer as to the particular form of payment in order to conclude a transaction. It is the Bank's understanding of the general law in this area that a tender of bank notes as payment does not necessarily compel the party who is owed money to accept that form of payment. The form of payment which is mutually acceptable to the parties to a transaction appears to us to be essentially a matter of private agreement between those parties. For example, a provider of goods or services could insist on payment by credit card or cheque.

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What can I do if a retailer refuses to accept my $100 note? Can retailers legally refuse notes?

The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change.

We encourage retailers to use security features; this is more customer-friendly than refusing notes for counterfeiting concerns and it’s also a more effective protection against counterfeiting losses.

There are several reasons why a retailer may choose to refuse notes (e.g. security for 24-hour operations; maintaining float).

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 14, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
As much as I'd rather not turn this into the anti-Rob Ford thread, he does provide many of us with stuff to complain about. Here's some more:

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/143023--city-won-t-revisit-public-health-nurse-issue

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The decision means the city will not be getting $170, 000 from the Ontario government to hire two public health nurses. One of the nurses would have worked with newcomers on disease prevention and the other would have promoted health services in one of the city’s poor neighbourhoods.

Mayor Rob Ford had said he was concerned that the city would be responsible for the permanent positions if the funding from the province was ever cut.

The province was willing to foot the bill, but, concerns about having to provide future money to essential services like paying healthcare workers led to it being refused? Seriously?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on July 14, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 14, 2011, 02:06:48 PM
I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

Regarding this analogy, as long as you didn't sign anything, couldn't you just return the car?

Irrelevant to the conversation, I know.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on July 14, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
Poor example, I'll admit.  :D
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 02:11:15 PM
I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?

The motion took your point into consideration:

Filion’s motion stated that the funding would cover the salaries and benefits of the two nurses and the positions would be eliminated if the funding was cut.

What I don't understand about Ford is he's preaching this entire gravy train bullcrap, and yet he paid $350k to hire consultants to read the city budget reports and come up with very stupid conclusions (cut the grass less, clear the paths less) that would have lowered the standard of living in the city.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 14, 2011, 02:16:08 PM
I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?

The motion took your point into consideration:

Filion’s motion stated that the funding would cover the salaries and benefits of the two nurses and the positions would be eliminated if the funding was cut.

What I don't understand about Ford is he's preaching this entire gravy train bullcrap, and yet he paid $350k to hire consultants to read the city budget reports and come up with very stupid conclusions (cut the grass less, clear the paths less) that would have lowered the standard of living in the city.

I would have done it for $150k
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
The freaking city should do it! Don't they have accountants?!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on July 14, 2011, 02:30:12 PM
The freaking city should do it! Don't they have accountants?!

Yeah. Miller's gravy train accountants.  That's all the idiot keeps spouting is rhetoric with next to no action.  The nurse one was beyond stupid.  The province was also committed to the temporary status of the nurses and there are plenty of those short-term contracts in existence where the nurse does not get a guaranteed job...it happens with doctors too.  It's one of the things I am going to consider doing to start out when I finish school is do a series of 1-2 year locums in different rural communities to pay off my debts and save up to open up my practice in a larger centre.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: cw on July 14, 2011, 02:37:06 PM
As much as I'd rather not turn this into the anti-Rob Ford thread, he does provide many of us with stuff to complain about. Here's some more:

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/143023--city-won-t-revisit-public-health-nurse-issue

Quote
The decision means the city will not be getting $170, 000 from the Ontario government to hire two public health nurses. One of the nurses would have worked with newcomers on disease prevention and the other would have promoted health services in one of the city’s poor neighbourhoods.

Mayor Rob Ford had said he was concerned that the city would be responsible for the permanent positions if the funding from the province was ever cut.

The province was willing to foot the bill, but, concerns about having to provide future money to essential services like paying healthcare workers led to it being refused? Seriously?

that's ok, he had more important things to consider (j/k)

City takes over debt-ridden Leafs practice facility
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1024909--city-takes-over-debt-ridden-leafs-practice-facility
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 03:12:49 PM
I can't complain too much about that. It would be a huge waste if they let it foreclose (it's a really nice place!), and they will very likely be selling it the arena to someone (albeit for 50 cents on the dollar).
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 14, 2011, 03:43:03 PM
People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 14, 2011, 04:08:13 PM
People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

While there's nothing wrong with this philosophy, it requires quite a bit of discipline as it's incredibly easy to get into credit card debt by shunning cash altogether. I mix it up (cash for daily expenses, credit card for larger expenses) to keep myself in check.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 14, 2011, 04:45:29 PM
I keep forgetting to buy deodorant - mines down to the cheese grater with splotches of deodorant on it stage.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 14, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

But now the government can track you man. THE GOVERNMENT!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 14, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

But now the government can track you man. THE GOVERNMENT!

PHONE COPS!!!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on July 15, 2011, 12:01:19 PM
I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 15, 2011, 12:04:26 PM
I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

yeh... argh
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on July 15, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
Being 7000 miles from my friends and family on my Birthday kinda sucks, the price of living in a warmer climate I guess.  My wife is doing her best to fill the void, which is nice, still, I miss home a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 15, 2011, 03:39:36 PM
I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

#stupidbullfrog
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on July 15, 2011, 03:49:37 PM
I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

#stupidbullfrog

What is the point of hashtagging?  It makes words trend on twitter?  Is it honestly worth it when already abbreviated sentences that violate the english language to hit a character limit suddenly get worse to fit 7-10 hashes in a single statement.

#Why #must #everything #be #hashed #simply #to #make #it #look #important #?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 15, 2011, 04:31:02 PM
I'm not on twitter, I don't know. I guess it's a way to sort posts by topics, I don't know.

In an unrelated complaint, why do people drive in downtown Toronto? Right now, King Street West is closed between Portland and Roncesvalles, and it is absolute chaos driving around (or taking the streetcar. Two days ago, I counted TWELVE streetcars queued up on Queen west because of the diversions from King/Dundas West). And yet, people still do it, and they still get upset and lean on their horns. What did they expect?!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on July 15, 2011, 04:47:36 PM
Bought a new set of bed sheets and the fitted one has an elastic broke in it. Return time.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on July 15, 2011, 04:50:59 PM
I had to get some stitches on Tuesday and half of them have already come out - 7 days early.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 15, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
I'm going to what is likely my only Jays game of the year tomorrow and Bautista is out (and only for a couple games.) - Kind of like complaining I have no bread with a Virgina ham under my arm, I know but I'm still gonna byatch about it nevertheless.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on July 15, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
I'm going to what is likely my only Jays game of the year tomorrow and Bautista is out (and only for a couple games.) - Kind of like complaining I have no bread with a Virgina ham under my arm, I know but I'm still gonna byatch about it nevertheless.
I know the Lady Jays are taking donations for Jays care tomorrow for certain amount you get an autographed hat. (believe is 40$ and over)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 15, 2011, 05:11:52 PM
What is the point of hashtagging?  It makes words trend on twitter?  Is it honestly worth it when already abbreviated sentences that violate the english language to hit a character limit suddenly get worse to fit 7-10 hashes in a single statement.

#Why #must #everything #be #hashed #simply #to #make #it #look #important #?

The point of hashtags is so that comments about certain topics can be easily searched/grouped together/etc. Of course, the internet being what it is, people abuse them, but, there is a legit purpose behind them.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 15, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
I'm going to what is likely my only Jays game of the year tomorrow and Bautista is out (and only for a couple games.) - Kind of like complaining I have no bread with a Virgina ham under my arm, I know but I'm still gonna byatch about it nevertheless.
I know the Lady Jays are taking donations for Jays care tomorrow for certain amount you get an autographed hat. (believe is 40$ and over)

Cool. Though it's Jr. Jays and we're doing that whole thing so I'm not sure I'll be able to do that. Apparently it's two random Jays who give the kiddies autographs so with Bautista not playing, he better be there!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on July 15, 2011, 08:32:50 PM
I just caught a mosquito with my chest hair.

On second thought, this probably belongs in the commendation thread.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on July 15, 2011, 10:14:25 PM
I'm in a very anti-Ford mood lately.  He's up to his old "lie and make up numbers" routine with "80%" of the cost of Toronto is labour/wages.

Quote
A February staff report to Ford and other members of his executive committee states: “Altogether, salaries and benefits account for nearly 48 per cent of the city’s 2011 BC recommended gross operating budget.”
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on July 15, 2011, 10:16:51 PM
I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

#stupidbullfrog

You're lucky I'm too #stupid to know if you're making fun of #me.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on July 16, 2011, 01:39:49 AM
I just caught a mosquito with my chest hair.

On second thought, this probably belongs in the commendation thread.

Sucker Punch, ridding the world of malaria & WNV, one country at a time.

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: hockeyfan1 on July 16, 2011, 06:12:26 AM
Being 7000 miles from my friends and family on my Birthday kinda sucks, the price of living in a warmer climate I guess.  My wife is doing her best to fill the void, which is nice, still, I miss home a bit.


No winter snow shovelling, at least.  Something to look forward to!   :D
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on July 17, 2011, 10:13:35 PM
The power went out at the mov ies :( we got free passes, but had also already bought food and drinks..no ones fault, but it still sucks haha
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 18, 2011, 05:09:39 AM

Friends assuming the new handlebar moustache is ironic. I just wanted to see what it looked like.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 18, 2011, 05:34:48 AM
The power went out at the mov ies :( we got free passes, but had also already bought food and drinks..no ones fault, but it still sucks haha

The projector broke on us a couple of weeks ago.  We got a refund plus free passes.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 18, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Friends assuming the new handlebar moustache is ironic. I just wanted to see what it looked like.

I'm hoping you're not mistaking a Fu Manchu for a handlebar moustache.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 18, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
Friends assuming the new handlebar moustache is ironic. I just wanted to see what it looked like.

I'm hoping you're not mistaking a Fu Manchu for a handlebar moustache.

Nope. Used wax and everything. I shaved down from my usual full beard so I had the material to work with.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on July 18, 2011, 12:05:36 PM
Nope. Used wax and everything. I shaved down from my usual full beard so I had the material to work with.

Excellent. A true handlebar moustache is a rare site these days.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 18, 2011, 03:30:53 PM
Nope. Used wax and everything. I shaved down from my usual full beard so I had the material to work with.

Excellent. A true handlebar moustache is a rare site these days.

I once knew a dude who's handle bar stache was visible on either side of his head when his back was turned to you.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
I am on stand by for a week starting today, which means I have no life for a week, can't really do anything as if there is a callout for work, I have to be at the station within 20 minutes and its 7kms out of town. booooo :(
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 18, 2011, 06:14:03 PM
I am on stand by for a week starting today, which means I have no life for a week, can't really do anything as if there is a callout for work, I have to be at the station within 20 minutes and its 7kms out of town. booooo :(

Ice cream is a good replacement for adult beverages this time of year. In fact, if I had to give up beer or ice cream for the rest of my life, I think I might actually choose beer. 
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 06:17:22 PM
I am on stand by for a week starting today, which means I have no life for a week, can't really do anything as if there is a callout for work, I have to be at the station within 20 minutes and its 7kms out of town. booooo :(

Ice cream is a good replacement for adult beverages this time of year. In fact, if I had to give up beer or ice cream for the rest of my life, I think I might actually choose beer.

I love ice cream, but dairy hates me, I'm lactose intolerant and living in a small town in the middle of nowhere, even if there is such thing as lactose free ice cream, we wouldn't have it here lol

August long weekend can't get here fast enough, heading to Caliper Lake Ontario for it !
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 18, 2011, 06:23:30 PM
I am on stand by for a week starting today, which means I have no life for a week, can't really do anything as if there is a callout for work, I have to be at the station within 20 minutes and its 7kms out of town. booooo :(

Ice cream is a good replacement for adult beverages this time of year. In fact, if I had to give up beer or ice cream for the rest of my life, I think I might actually choose beer.

I love ice cream, but dairy hates me, I'm lactose intolerant and living in a small town in the middle of nowhere, even if there is such thing as lactose free ice cream, we wouldn't have it here lol

August long weekend can't get here fast enough, heading to Caliper Lake Ontario for it !

Wow. Sorry. That sucks, dude. No booze OR ice Cream? Jimminy Crickets! I hope the town you're in is small enough it doesn't carry razor blades or rope either.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on July 18, 2011, 06:39:23 PM
LOL Sarge
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 06:40:39 PM
Thanks for the laugh Sarge, needed it, I am still at work, 1.5 hours past quitting time, due to an issue with one of the units lol
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on July 18, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
I have been in a bad mood all day, a lot of complaining and crap, couldn't figure out why until I got home from work. I am in the control room this week as an operator, rather then in the shop as a power electrician trainee. The control room puts me in a foul mood  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on July 18, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
I'm just confused.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on July 19, 2011, 07:58:21 PM
This was making the rounds today. Not sure if everything in this juxtaposition is true but if so then I think I have a complaint...

(http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/118/4f315b90a633445d9fa5d23153d18764/l.png)
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on July 19, 2011, 08:02:04 PM
Thanks. You just killed my good mood.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on July 19, 2011, 08:21:08 PM
There could easily be more to the Roy Brown story but then again maybe not, haven't found anything on it yet to say. The thing that really slays me is where it says that the prosecution was looking for 'slightly more' in the Paul Allen story, 6 years... wtf?

Don't worry, it's just a function of indifference, happens all the time... be happy! ( ...that it's not you? )
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 19, 2011, 11:02:42 PM

I've had a you tube account for a long long time. I've never posted any videos, I just liked making folders of favorites in different categories and playlists as well.

All of a sudden my account won't work because I need to have a google account. So no big deal I'll just sign up for a google account. At the end of the process google asks you for a phone number so they can text your confirmation code to complete the process....

WTF!  I'm not giving my phone number to google.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on July 20, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
WTF!  I'm not giving my phone number to google.

They probably already know it anyway. Or could find it in about 5 seconds.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 20, 2011, 10:16:02 AM
WTF!  I'm not giving my phone number to google.

They probably already know it anyway. Or could find it in about 5 seconds.

Coming Soon; Google phone porn
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on July 20, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
WTF!  I'm not giving my phone number to google.

They probably already know it anyway. Or could find it in about 5 seconds.

Not me....
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 20, 2011, 12:38:52 PM
Regarding the prison sentencing above - double standard much? Sure there could be more to both stories, but still, that is just ridiculous.

My main problem with the world today is the people. :P
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 20, 2011, 12:42:29 PM
Regarding the prison sentencing above - double standard much? Sure there could be more to both stories, but still, that is just ridiculous.

My main problem with the world today is the people. :P

Cant live with em, cant kill em all
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on July 20, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
Regarding the prison sentencing above - double standard much? Sure there could be more to both stories, but still, that is just ridiculous.

My main problem with the world today is the people. :P

Cant live with em, cant kill em all

Meh, not my job. :D

I'll leave that to the next asteroid or supervolcano.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on July 20, 2011, 12:48:30 PM
Regarding the prison sentencing above - double standard much? Sure there could be more to both stories, but still, that is just ridiculous.

My main problem with the world today is the people. :P

Cant live with em, cant kill em all

Meh, not my job. :D

I'll leave that to the next asteroid or supervolcano.

Crazy Mayans
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on July 20, 2011, 02:49:41 PM
Regarding the prison sentencing above - double standard much? Sure there could be more to both stories, but still, that is just ridiculous.

My main problem with the world today is the people. :P

Cant live with em, cant kill em all

Meh, not my job. :D

I'll leave that to the next asteroid or supervolcano.

Crazy Mayans

I bet they never had anything nice...
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 03, 2011, 11:49:54 PM
Interviews first thing in the morning.

I feel like I will never fall asleep. I'd rather have an interview at like 3pm!
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 11, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
Getting bored being off work, but the Dr doesn't want me going unless my neck is better.

They took X-rays this past Monday and said they wouldn't call if everything looked good, well they called yesterday asking I come in next week. Get the results of my X-Rays on Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 12, 2011, 12:24:37 AM
Some vindication I suppose: http://www.thestar.com/news/torontog20summit/article/1038347--aggression-during-g20-rally-perpetrated-by-police-judge-rules?bn=1
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on August 12, 2011, 09:23:54 AM
Some vindication I suppose: http://www.thestar.com/news/torontog20summit/article/1038347--aggression-during-g20-rally-perpetrated-by-police-judge-rules?bn=1

While thats true, the whole issue of accountability is in the air... he's just one of hundreds.... and still, nobody in authority is paying a price.... some democracy
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 12, 2011, 01:33:45 PM
All of this happened after the looting, vandalism and destruction of property took place. If the police hadn't acted when they did, the way they did....well, you've all seen what's happening in England. Like it or not, Toronto had one of the tamest G20 riots in the history of the event BECAUSE of what the Police did.

It's funny, listening to bystanders' comments about the riots in England, many of them are saying "Where are the Police? Why aren't they doing anything?"

It's a lose-lose situation for Police. If they act, they get blamed. If they don't act, they get blamed. They are society's Robert Reichel.

In light of recent events in other democratic nations, I'm all for a few civil rights being violated for the sake of maintaining order. I've always believed that the rights and freedoms we've been granted, that people fought and died for, come with the responsibility to act with civility and within the law. When the first bottle was thrown, the first pane of glass was broken, and the first police car was lit on fire, anyone and everyone involved in those protests lost the right to demonstrate as it was proven at that moment that it could not be done peacefully. 

At the end of the day, if this article is any indication, everyone who was wronged will have their day in court and justice will be served.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 12, 2011, 07:50:58 PM
In light of recent events in other democratic nations, I'm all for a few civil rights being violated for the sake of maintaining order. I've always believed that the rights and freedoms we've been granted, that people fought and died for, come with the responsibility to act with civility and within the law. When the first bottle was thrown, the first pane of glass was broken, and the first police car was lit on fire, anyone and everyone involved in those protests lost the right to demonstrate as it was proven at that moment that it could not be done peacefully. 

I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.  Denying everyone the right to peaceful protest because of the actions of the vast minority?

I don't expect the police to work magic.  I expect, if our elected leaders are going to stage an event like this in a city like Toronto, they are going to adequately protect the public.  If it is not feasible to do without wide-ranging infringements of civil liberties, then don't do it.

Otherwise, you deal with the lingering consequences.

I don't see how this has any comparison to random, wanton violence in the UK stemming from a police shooting.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 13, 2011, 02:19:31 AM
In light of recent events in other democratic nations, I'm all for a few civil rights being violated for the sake of maintaining order. I've always believed that the rights and freedoms we've been granted, that people fought and died for, come with the responsibility to act with civility and within the law. When the first bottle was thrown, the first pane of glass was broken, and the first police car was lit on fire, anyone and everyone involved in those protests lost the right to demonstrate as it was proven at that moment that it could not be done peacefully. 

I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.  Denying everyone the right to peaceful protest because of the actions of the vast minority?

I don't expect the police to work magic.  I expect, if our elected leaders are going to stage an event like this in a city like Toronto, they are going to adequately protect the public.  If it is not feasible to do without wide-ranging infringements of civil liberties, then don't do it.

Otherwise, you deal with the lingering consequences.

I don't see how this has any comparison to random, wanton violence in the UK stemming from a police shooting.

I'm sure you've heard of the "few bad apples" expression. I'm not a terrorist, but I still have to go through the security process at the airport. How do you separate the wheat from the chaff in that situation? You can't just go roaming through the crowd asking people if they're the ones lighting cars on fire.

The violence must be stopped before it spreads. Unfortunately, that means clamping down on civil liberties. If you're part of the mob and you're not stopping the violence, you're just as guilty as those perpetrating it. As far as I know, there is no provision in the Charter for "mostly peaceful protests"

The comparison to the UK is that the Police should have come down harder on those protests. Toronto could have been a lot worse than it was, and probably would have been had the Police not done what they did. Those who have been tread on will have their day in court.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 13, 2011, 06:38:46 AM
The comparison to the UK is that the Police should have come down harder on those protests. Toronto could have been a lot worse than it was, and probably would have been had the Police not done what they did. Those who have been tread on will have their day in court.

From what I've seen and read, the protestors destroying stuff in Toronto, the 'black bloc' stuff, was witnessed by the police from a distance, who did nothing to intervene to stop the destruction.  It was only after they dispersed back into the crowd that the police began going after people.

The destruction went on without police stopping them for around 1.5 hours (this is all from various different websites, who knows what is verifiable and what is not, but there is a good documentary on it all).

It probably would have been a lot less if the police had stopped that from happening, rather than the tactics they used on peaceful protestors.

No there is no "mostly peaceful protest" provision, there is simply:

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8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

    (a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
    (b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
    (c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.

This is a nice/scary report on it: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/youshouldhavestayedathome/
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on August 13, 2011, 10:55:34 AM
Honestly, I have a hard time actually calling the majority of people who were at the G20 mess protestors - they weren't out there rallying for any identifiable cause. Most of the people out there were there just to be there. They were the type of people who feel events like the G20 go hand in hand with protest marches and such, but don't fight for any particular cause, aren't looking to raise any particular issue, etc. Truthfully, the crowd at the G20 was less of a protest and more of a mob scene.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 13, 2011, 11:39:58 AM
Agreed.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 13, 2011, 11:51:40 AM
The problem here is that the violent part of the g20 protests occurred mostly over a fairly limited time frame early on and the police watched their own cars burn while doing absolutely nothing to stop any kind of spread. The peaceful protesters took a pretty huge hit for that and the police are, slowly, being shown to have overstepped in response overall and also seem to have participated in obstructing justice after the fact.

There's an interview with Steve Paikin worth watching, he witnessed some of the events and is a pretty reliable journalist. His take on the crowd was that they were there to say they had a right to be assemble peacefully, nothing much more to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCWNqMV4Bgs

Going through a security check at an airport is a little different from being beaten and falsely arrested, a few bad apples doesn't justify that especially when they seemed to have rolled away unscathed.

Police are just people and they are trained to do what they did in a command structure so I don't have as much of a problem with them as I do the system overall. Like Paikin says at the end of the interview, it was a sad bloody day for democracy.

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on August 13, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Unfortunately, that means clamping down on civil liberties. If you're part of the mob and you're not stopping the violence, you're just as guilty as those perpetrating it.

Just for the record, this isn't true by any credible definition of the word guilty.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on August 13, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
A/C is not working......not fixed until Monday(maybe) if the fix doesn't work then big dough for a new unit  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 14, 2011, 05:15:46 AM
Unfortunately, that means clamping down on civil liberties. If you're part of the mob and you're not stopping the violence, you're just as guilty as those perpetrating it.

Just for the record, this isn't true by any credible definition of the word guilty.

I beg to differ. I believe you're familiar with the concept of mob mentality.

Some of the posters above have commented how the Police were allegedly aware of who was responsible for starting the violence at the time. The Police can't just walk into a crowd like that and start picking people out. The crowd won't know what they're doing and they're likely to view such actions as threatening. It's likely to just add fuel to the fire, rather than prevent a riot.

If you remove the lawful protesters, you remove the opportunity for the criminals to engage in violent activities. They are cowards and don't like to operate without the cover of the law-abiding. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm saying it's the way it is.

Did the peaceful protesters disperse and go home when the violence started? Did they co-operate with Police when they attempted to stop the violence? Not from what I remember. Not leaving when stuff started to go down made it more difficult for the Police to do what they were supposed to, because of mob mentality. That strikes me as an error in judgment, which I think fits the definition of guilty.

At least according to Oxford...
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 14, 2011, 05:21:57 AM
The comparison to the UK is that the Police should have come down harder on those protests. Toronto could have been a lot worse than it was, and probably would have been had the Police not done what they did. Those who have been tread on will have their day in court.

No there is no "mostly peaceful protest" provision, there is simply:

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8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

    (a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
    (b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
    (c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.

This is a nice/scary report on it: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/youshouldhavestayedathome/

There is also this:

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

I don't think theft, vandalism, destruction of property, and arson qualify as peaceful activities. Even if only 1% of a protest is involved in such activities, I don't see how you can call such an assembly peaceful.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on August 14, 2011, 06:43:07 AM
I beg to differ. I believe you're familiar with the concept of mob mentality.

It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. It refers to the way that being in a crowd like that can sometimes get otherwise calm people to get caught up in the tide and do things they otherwise wouldn't do. That's not the issue here you're saying that people who weren't caught up in mob mentality, who were peaceful and law-abiding, are just as guilty as those who were breaking the law by virtue of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's not true both in a legal and a moral sense.

Beg to differ all you want, you can't charge someone with proximity to a crime.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on August 14, 2011, 07:55:00 AM
I beg to differ. I believe you're familiar with the concept of mob mentality.

It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. It refers to the way that being in a crowd like that can sometimes get otherwise calm people to get caught up in the tide and do things they otherwise wouldn't do. That's not the issue here you're saying that people who weren't caught up in mob mentality, who were peaceful and law-abiding, are just as guilty as those who were breaking the law by virtue of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's not true both in a legal and a moral sense.

Beg to differ all you want, you can't charge someone with proximity to a crime.

Your right Nik, and to add a bit more, its actually called Convergence Theory....

"Convergence theory holds that crowd behavior is not a product of the crowd itself, but is carried into the crowd by particular individuals. Thus, crowds amount to a convergence of like-minded individuals. In other words, while contagion theory states that crowds cause people to act in a certain way, convergence theory says the opposite: that people who wish to act in a certain way come together to form crowds. An example of convergence theory states that there is no homogeneous activity within a repetitive practice, sometimes observed when an immigrant population becomes common in a previously homogeneous area, and members of the existing community (apparently spontaneously) band together to threaten those trying to move into their neighborhoods. In such cases, convergence theorists contend, the crowd itself does not generate racial hatred or violence; rather, the hostility has been simmering for some time among many local people. A crowd then arises from convergence of people who oppose the presence of these neighbors. Convergence theory claims that crowd behavior as such is not irrational; rather, people in crowds express existing beliefs and values so that the mob reaction is the rational product of widespread popular feeling."
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 14, 2011, 08:05:08 AM
The comparison to the UK is that the Police should have come down harder on those protests. Toronto could have been a lot worse than it was, and probably would have been had the Police not done what they did. Those who have been tread on will have their day in court.

No there is no "mostly peaceful protest" provision, there is simply:

Quote
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

    (a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
    (b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
    (c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.

This is a nice/scary report on it: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/youshouldhavestayedathome/

There is also this:

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

I don't think theft, vandalism, destruction of property, and arson qualify as peaceful activities. Even if only 1% of a protest is involved in such activities, I don't see how you can call such an assembly peaceful.

Except much of the police response was to the peaceful protestors and not the violent acts.  It wasn't like there was one huge protest, and when there was violence, the police did nothing to quell it.  Like I said, there is plenty of evidence of them using violent tactics on peaceful protests, even within the 'official protest zone' or whatever it was called.

I highly doubt the fact you were in downtown Toronto during the G20 is evidence enough to reach this 'reasonable limit' and strip you of those Charter rights listed above, which happened to many, many people those days.

The resulting sentences, or lack thereof, are proof enough.

And what about the members of the media?  There have been numerous stories of people with press credentials, who showed police their press credentials, being abused/arrested/both in all of this.  They should be arrested for reporting on the protests because they were there when the protests turned violent?
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 14, 2011, 08:30:21 AM
I beg to differ. I believe you're familiar with the concept of mob mentality.

It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. It refers to the way that being in a crowd like that can sometimes get otherwise calm people to get caught up in the tide and do things they otherwise wouldn't do. That's not the issue here you're saying that people who weren't caught up in mob mentality, who were peaceful and law-abiding, are just as guilty as those who were breaking the law by virtue of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's not true both in a legal and a moral sense.

Beg to differ all you want, you can't charge someone with proximity to a crime.

That's not what I'm saying. By refusing to disperse when the violence erupted, they are guilty of contributing to an environment where the violence would be allowed to continue. I know the definition of the word "guilty". You're the one who seems to think that a particular crime must be involved for the word to apply.

I thought I explained mob mentality in pretty much the same way you just did. That's why the Police can't just go charging into the crowd to arrest those responsible. If the crowd is ignorant of the situation, then that ignorance is going to cause otherwise calm and law-abiding people to question their actions, and the mob mentality would kick in. All it takes is ONE person to start yelling "shame! shame!".

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 14, 2011, 08:47:28 AM
The comparison to the UK is that the Police should have come down harder on those protests. Toronto could have been a lot worse than it was, and probably would have been had the Police not done what they did. Those who have been tread on will have their day in court.

No there is no "mostly peaceful protest" provision, there is simply:

Quote
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

    (a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
    (b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
    (c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.

This is a nice/scary report on it: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/youshouldhavestayedathome/

There is also this:

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

I don't think theft, vandalism, destruction of property, and arson qualify as peaceful activities. Even if only 1% of a protest is involved in such activities, I don't see how you can call such an assembly peaceful.

Except much of the police response was to the peaceful protestors and not the violent acts.  It wasn't like there was one huge protest, and when there was violence, the police did nothing to quell it.  Like I said, there is plenty of evidence of them using violent tactics on peaceful protests, even within the 'official protest zone' or whatever it was called.

I highly doubt the fact you were in downtown Toronto during the G20 is evidence enough to reach this 'reasonable limit' and strip you of those Charter rights listed above, which happened to many, many people those days.

The resulting sentences, or lack thereof, are proof enough.

And what about the members of the media?  There have been numerous stories of people with press credentials, who showed police their press credentials, being abused/arrested/both in all of this.  They should be arrested for reporting on the protests because they were there when the protests turned violent?

I've already explained why it's very difficult if not impossible to separate the peaceful protesters from the violent criminals in a crowd like that.

I also never once said that everything they did was above the board, or even that it was right. I believe that curtailing the right of assembly was necessary to prevent further violence, which is CERTAINLY covered in Section 1 of the Charter. I firmly believe that when the violence erupted, that the peaceful, law-abiding protesters had a RESPONSIBILITY to extricate themselves from the area and make way for the Police to apprehend those responsible. From what I can tell, that DID NOT HAPPEN.

Everything else that happened, the stuff with the media, the alleged random arrests...I can't speak to that. As I've said numerous times in these discussions I do not have all the facts and I am not taking the word of oft-sensational media outlets at face value. Everyone will have their day in court, and when the verdict is in, then I will know what to think. The man in the article had his day and he was vindicated. In his case, the Police effed up.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on August 14, 2011, 12:24:44 PM
That's not what I'm saying. By refusing to disperse when the violence erupted, they are guilty of contributing to an environment where the violence would be allowed to continue. I know the definition of the word "guilty". You're the one who seems to think that a particular crime must be involved for the word to apply.

Leaving aside that there aren't really words to describe how ridiculous  "Sure some people are guilty of actual crimes but the other people are as guilty" is there is no definition of guilty where people who aren't doing something are as responsible as the people who are.

I thought I explained mob mentality in pretty much the same way you just did. That's why the Police can't just go charging into the crowd to arrest those responsible. If the crowd is ignorant of the situation, then that ignorance is going to cause otherwise calm and law-abiding people to question their actions, and the mob mentality would kick in. All it takes is ONE person to start yelling "shame! shame!".

No, you basically described a situation where mob mentality isn't occurring. Where people are not being caught up in a crowd mentality and are still conducting themselves peacefully and within their rights. According to you, though, that makes them just as guilty as people committing crimes. Words fail.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on August 14, 2011, 04:39:15 PM
That's not what I'm saying. By refusing to disperse when the violence erupted, they are guilty of contributing to an environment where the violence would be allowed to continue. I know the definition of the word "guilty". You're the one who seems to think that a particular crime must be involved for the word to apply.

Leaving aside that there aren't really words to describe how ridiculous  "Sure some people are guilty of actual crimes but the other people are as guilty" is there is no definition of guilty where people who aren't doing something are as responsible as the people who are.

I thought I explained mob mentality in pretty much the same way you just did. That's why the Police can't just go charging into the crowd to arrest those responsible. If the crowd is ignorant of the situation, then that ignorance is going to cause otherwise calm and law-abiding people to question their actions, and the mob mentality would kick in. All it takes is ONE person to start yelling "shame! shame!".

No, you basically described a situation where mob mentality isn't occurring. Where people are not being caught up in a crowd mentality and are still conducting themselves peacefully and within their rights. According to you, though, that makes them just as guilty as people committing crimes. Words fail.

That's not what I've said. I'm sorry your mind won't allow you to see that.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 14, 2011, 07:04:05 PM
I've already explained why it's very difficult if not impossible to separate the peaceful protesters from the violent criminals in a crowd like that.

During the majority of the 'black bloc' violence they were not among a crowd of peaceful protesters, they were mostly isolated in plain sight as they smashed windows and lit police cars on fire, there is ample video evidence of this.

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I also never once said that everything they did was above the board, or even that it was right. I believe that curtailing the right of assembly was necessary to prevent further violence which is CERTAINLY covered in Section 1 of the Charter. I firmly believe that when the violence erupted, that the peaceful, law-abiding protesters had a RESPONSIBILITY to extricate themselves from the area and make way for the Police to apprehend those responsible. From what I can tell, that DID NOT HAPPEN.

According to Paikin, from what he saw, that wasn't the case for the most part once the black bloc idiots were done ( and not arrested ) and it was the police who ramped up violence and aggression after the fact, not the other way around. Curtailing the right of assembly is a pretty serious call for a crowd that is actually protesting peacefully.

Fwiw, out of 1100 arrests only 317 charges were laid and 187 of those have since been withdrawn never mind those who have 'had their day in court'.

Too bad my 'Kettling for Dummies' book was rejected, I could have made soooo much money, I even had a snack brand to go with it... 'Kettle Cooked Montebello style Blue Cheese'.

Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on August 16, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
Your Toronto mayor:

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Ford’s spokesperson, Adrienne Batra, declined to say whether Ford sees the second batch of nurses the same way he saw the first. “We do not talk to the Toronto Star,” Batra said.
Title: Re: The Official Temporary Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 16, 2011, 08:45:14 PM
What a petty group of people.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on August 17, 2011, 11:29:08 PM
Guess ford will only be giving quotes to The Sun aka fox news toronto.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 17, 2011, 11:50:25 PM
So Toronto, how's Jabba the Ford working out for you?

Frankly I think he falls under the iron clad definition of 'Communist' served up by Mammoliti.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on August 18, 2011, 02:31:12 AM
Hows that privately funded Sheppard subway extension comin'?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 19, 2011, 08:20:02 AM
Yesterday, it was four of my friends birthdays, kinda of weird that in a small town, four of your friends birthdays all fall on the same day, needless to say I am feeling a little rough this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on August 19, 2011, 08:41:42 AM
Too much cake?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 19, 2011, 09:01:51 AM
Too much cake?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on August 22, 2011, 06:02:48 PM
Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on August 24, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
I guess it takes a rainy day to discover you have a hole in the sole of your shoe.....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Big Daddy on August 24, 2011, 02:17:00 PM
Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.

I'm going to throw Fire-trucks who use their sirens and send a full team to a 911 medical emergency even when the ambulance is already at the scene.  Stop trying to inflate your call attendance stats for collective bargaining purposes.
... We get dispatched to all emergencies and work as one with other agencies upon arrival.  If you think two people is ALWAYS sufficient in medical emergencies your wrong.  ...

(personal attacks removed by cw)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on August 24, 2011, 03:15:18 PM
Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.

I'm going to throw Fire-trucks who use their sirens and send a full team to a 911 medical emergency even when the ambulance is already at the scene.  Stop trying to inflate your call attendance stats for collective bargaining purposes.
...  We get dispatched to all emergencies and work as one with other agencies upon arrival.  If you think two people is ALWAYS sufficient in medical emergencies your wrong.  ...

(personal attacks removed by cw)

Although your information is probably correct, you could have delivered it properly rather then personally attack another member.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on August 24, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
Wow chill out guys
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on August 26, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
Bad enough that the person who I "back up" at work takes mainly Mondays and Fridays off (when he has regular meetings that I end up having to chair - as opposed to his rescheduling or cancelling), but every time he is off the systems that he supports blow up.

Frustrating.........
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: donkeyy0 on August 26, 2011, 01:57:09 PM
York University.

Limit the # of classes I can enroll in, but I can't audition for the classes unless I am enrolled. So...I've got two classes I am interested in taking, but...I can only enroll in 1. And if I don't get into the class I can't audition for the other one.

We'll wait till I get my results for my audition. If things don't go well...I'll have a serious complaint. There's 1 spot open in each class...15 applicants. Wicked. And I NEED at least one of these classes to graduate.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Seriously though.

York University.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on August 26, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Chicken soup has flat out defeated me.   The broth doesn't taste chickeny, it just tastes like salty water with herbs in it.

I roasted a chicken carcass, then used that to make the stock.   I also added a whole carton of chicken broth to it as well as three packets of chicken boullion powder.   It looks right, but doesn't taste like chicken soup.   Does anyone know the secret?   How the hell do you make chicken soup taste like chicken?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on August 26, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
Chicken soup has flat out defeated me.   The broth doesn't taste chickeny, it just tastes like salty water with herbs in it.

I roasted a chicken carcass, then used that to make the stock.   I also added a whole carton of chicken broth to it as well as three packets of chicken boullion powder.   It looks right, but doesn't taste like chicken soup.   Does anyone know the secret?   How the hell do you make chicken soup taste like chicken?

Did you remember all 3 components of the holy trinity?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: 13 on August 26, 2011, 03:48:13 PM
Anybody  used Champix to quit smoking? I just started on it yesterday and wondered if anybody has tried it and how'd it work out for ya? Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on August 26, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
Anybody  used Champix to quit smoking? I just started on it yesterday and wondered if anybody has tried it and how'd it work out for ya? Thanks!

Nope... I tried the patch, it didn't work. Finally, I just said eff it and went cold turkey. - Haven't had one in 22 months now. You just have to want to quit more then your body tells you to have a smoke. - It's really just as simple as that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on August 27, 2011, 05:20:46 PM
Just because the refrigerator is broken does not mean we have to remodel the entire kitchen. And if it doesn't appear on an HGTV show does not mean it's crap.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on August 27, 2011, 06:57:18 PM
Anybody  used Champix to quit smoking? I just started on it yesterday and wondered if anybody has tried it and how'd it work out for ya? Thanks!

I tried Zyban, and the day I quit, and the nicotine levels dropped, I ended up having an allergic reaction to it. With the nicotine and Zyban, they counterbalanced each other. When the smoking stopped, I blew up like a balloon.

At that point, my choices were to keep smoking, or go cold turkey. Since I'd already decided to quit, and the day was there, I'd be an idiot if I kept smoking. So I went cold turkey, and haven't had a smoke since. Been just over 11 years now.

And no, the urge never goes away. It just becomes really, really easy to ignore.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on August 30, 2011, 08:54:56 PM
My mom just joined Facebook........ :-\
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on August 30, 2011, 09:14:11 PM
Dear George Lucas.

Just stop.

Seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaSxSuB2vY
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on August 30, 2011, 09:24:25 PM
I went in for my weekly appt at the hospital, and I mentioned I've been getting dizzy easily lately, especially when I stand up.  The took my blood pressure, and it was 91/70.  Apparently that's not good for a big dude like me.  Frick!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WAYNEINIONA on August 30, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
We live in a rural area thatis a black hole for satelite or cable. We need an analog converter box to continue receiving television channels after tomorrow but can't find one anywhere as everyone is sold out. The US did this a year ago and provided people with a $40 coupon towards the purchase we get 0. That's my rant.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on September 03, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
Dear airshow, I'm halfway across the city and don't care about you in the slightest. Do try to keep it down.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 03, 2011, 12:57:01 PM
Dear airshow, I'm halfway across the city and don't care about you in the slightest. Do try to keep it down.

I'm ~100 M from the tower which just got buzzed by the CF-18. Totally effin' awesome. I'm tuned in to liveatc.net and no excatly when they're taking off and landing... All I have to do is seep outside the office to watch. Air Cadets up next... So cool.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 03, 2011, 08:43:54 PM
Damn you KFC!

Lure me in with your crispy skin, hypnotize me, then go straight to work on the arteries!

Good thing it happens less than annually....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: 13 on September 06, 2011, 02:59:46 PM
The "toe fingers" girl in the newest round of irritatting Roger's commercials. Everytime that commercial comes on I want to see that girl get slowly tortured, after being covered in toe jam.... and sour milk.... and fire ants. Is that wrong?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsweetie on September 07, 2011, 11:14:26 AM
Hi folks!  Sad to see our original posts are gone but thanks to Jacques for the revival :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 07, 2011, 12:09:41 PM
The "toe fingers" girl in the newest round of irritatting Roger's commercials. Everytime that commercial comes on I want to see that girl get slowly tortured, after being covered in toe jam.... and sour milk.... and fire ants. Is that wrong?

I don't know this commercial.  :-\  although I'm probably happy about that, given this post......
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on September 07, 2011, 12:26:55 PM
Hi folks!  Sad to see our original posts are gone but thanks to Jacques for the revival :)

Glad to see ya back Leafsweetie!  Hugs!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsweetie on September 07, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
Hi folks!  Sad to see our original posts are gone but thanks to Jacques for the revival :)

Glad to see ya back Leafsweetie!  Hugs!

Thanks Rick!  Hoping to stick around this season :) 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 07, 2011, 01:42:19 PM
In the middle of my 4th double shift (16 hrs per) in 7 days. Just had a big pasta lunch... Those carbs feel like microscopic grim reapers attacking my very soul. Why do I do this to myself? 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 07, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
My father calls me (at work) saying he can't connect to the internet. I asked if he called Rogers - he did - they told him he had a virus (only took them an hour to determine that).
I run him through a number of things - no way he has a virus. I told him either there are signal problems or his modem has crapped out and told him to call back and say he wants a new modem.
Long story short, he gets someone else at tech support who actually does their job and determines its a signal problem on their end and they open a ticket and will fix it for him.

Not nice to cause a 71 year old, less than tech savvy man to go through such grief, then lie to him just to end a call.

WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on September 07, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
Hi folks!  Sad to see our original posts are gone but thanks to Jacques for the revival :)

Glad to see ya back Leafsweetie!  Hugs!

Good to see you back Rick.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 08, 2011, 01:06:36 PM
Ticketmaster is useless, well maybe not, but they pissed me off. I bought tickets on June 1st for the Riders and Bombers game this upcoming Sunday, since the event was 3 months away I choose the "mail" option. Well I still dont have the tickets so I emailed them today and just got a response saying that because of the strike, they decided not to mail me my tickets.

When were they going to tell me this? Seems like this is something they could have sent an automated email out to everyone who has this issue, a long time ago, seeing how the strike wasn't that long and was back in June and they weren't going to mail the tickets out until August anyways.

[/rant]
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on September 12, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
My father calls me (at work) saying he can't connect to the internet. I asked if he called Rogers - he did - they told him he had a virus (only took them an hour to determine that).
I run him through a number of things - no way he has a virus. I told him either there are signal problems or his modem has crapped out and told him to call back and say he wants a new modem.
Long story short, he gets someone else at tech support who actually does their job and determines its a signal problem on their end and they open a ticket and will fix it for him.

Not nice to cause a 71 year old, less than tech savvy man to go through such grief, then lie to him just to end a call.

WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!

Your poor Dad!  My husband can write a book on the many telephone calls and issues that he has had with Rogers!  They are unreal sometimes!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 12, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
My father calls me (at work) saying he can't connect to the internet. I asked if he called Rogers - he did - they told him he had a virus (only took them an hour to determine that).
I run him through a number of things - no way he has a virus. I told him either there are signal problems or his modem has crapped out and told him to call back and say he wants a new modem.
Long story short, he gets someone else at tech support who actually does their job and determines its a signal problem on their end and they open a ticket and will fix it for him.

Not nice to cause a 71 year old, less than tech savvy man to go through such grief, then lie to him just to end a call.

WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!

Your poor Dad!  My husband can write a book on the many telephone calls and issues that he has had with Rogers!  They are unreal sometimes!
On a happy note, he is now back on line - the second person he contacted followed through and made sure all was corrected. My faith is a little restored.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on September 12, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
This complaint is about all the jackasses who still use their cellphones while driving, even though it's now illegal to do so here.

It's against the law for a reason, you tools.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 12, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
This complaint is about all the jackasses who still use their cellphones while driving, even though it's now illegal to do so here.

It's against the law for a reason, you tools.

Since when has a law stopped people from doing something...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 16, 2011, 06:43:25 AM
I received a call from Rogers wireless yesterday advising they were calling to "save me money". After the pitch they proposed a change to my plan that would have cost $4 a month more - how does that work? I offered to trade her my shiny nickel for a dollar and told her it would save her money.
"Thank you for choosing Rogers, have a nice day"
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on September 16, 2011, 12:11:26 PM
I received a call from Rogers wireless yesterday advising they were calling to "save me money". After the pitch they proposed a change to my plan that would have cost $4 a month more - how does that work? I offered to trade her my shiny nickel for a dollar and told her it would save her money.
"Thank you for choosing Rogers, have a nice day"

Toronto Star called yesterday and offered me 5 weekdays home delivery for free.  I said sure, sign me up.  The Chick THEN said all I have to do is pay for Saturday and Sunday delivery.  I said no thanks, I just want the weekdays, as I leave the country each weekend so would never read them - just send me the 5 weekdays, for free, like she said at the beginning of the call.  We argued back and forth for 10 minutes.  I then said I was just going to ask my wife, who was in the basement, whether we should sign up.  I set the phone down  and let her wait while I went and had a shower instead...  She wasn't still on the line when I came back out 15 minutes later :)  If she's going to deceive me with the free offer, I'm going to make her pay by wasting her time - witch!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on September 16, 2011, 12:18:35 PM
This complaint is about all the jackasses who still use their cellphones while driving, even though it's now illegal to do so here.

It's against the law for a reason, you tools.

Since when has a law stopped people from doing something...

I guess I'm a jackass.  I still talk on the iPhone while driving, and I sometimes check texts at red lights (but not while actually driving).  My bad, I know. 

But as long as I see women driving on the 401 each morning in heavy traffic with a smoke AND coffee in one hand (while I assume holding the steering wheel with her knees), and lipstick or eyeliner in the other hand, while looking at herself in the mirror - not having a clue about the traffic around her...  I see this almost every morning...  And they don't get busted for it.  Yeah, me thinks my driving and talking at the same time is far, far less a concern.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on September 16, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
This complaint is about all the jackasses who still use their cellphones while driving, even though it's now illegal to do so here.

It's against the law for a reason, you tools.

Since when has a law stopped people from doing something...

I guess I'm a jackass.  I still talk on the iPhone while driving, and I sometimes check texts at red lights (but not while actually driving).  My bad, I know. 

But as long as I see women driving on the 401 each morning in heavy traffic with a smoke AND coffee in one hand (while I assume holding the steering wheel with her knees), and lipstick or eyeliner in the other hand, while looking at herself in the mirror - not having a clue about the traffic around her...  I see this almost every morning...  And they don't get busted for it.  Yeah, me thinks my driving and talking at the same time is far, far less a concern.

The way I see it, that attitude is part of the problem. Instead of nobody but them doing it, and having them stand out more, or taking a stance against them, you opt to join them in creating a hazard. Sure, you're probably far less of a danger than they are, but you're still a danger, and you're still breaking the law.

If bank robbers start to get away with their booty more, will you take it up, because they don't get caught? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on September 16, 2011, 12:38:18 PM
If bank robbers start to get away with their booty more, will you take it up, because they don't get caught? ;)

I probably would.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on September 16, 2011, 12:43:48 PM
Me, too. I'm just sayin'...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on September 16, 2011, 12:50:17 PM
I agree Rick, while driving and using a cell phone isn't safe, the things that some others do while driving, is worse.

I'll even admit, at a red light I will check my phone once in a while, or on the highway on a straight away if I'm driving alone and there is no traffic (very minimal traffic in Manitoba, I can go 30 mins easily without seeing a vehicle, during the day, hours without at night and that is on the major highway in the provience too), but I won't spend more then a couple seconds at a time looking at it. If someone is in the car with me, I always let them check/answer any messages on my phone while I'm driving.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on September 16, 2011, 02:07:16 PM
I agree Rick, while driving and using a cell phone isn't safe, the things that some others do while driving, is worse.

I'll even admit, at a red light I will check my phone once in a while, or on the highway on a straight away if I'm driving alone and there is no traffic (very minimal traffic in Manitoba, I can go 30 mins easily without seeing a vehicle, during the day, hours without at night and that is on the major highway in the provience too), but I won't spend more then a couple seconds at a time looking at it. If someone is in the car with me, I always let them check/answer any messages on my phone while I'm driving.
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It drives us motorcycle riders crazy.... seriously.... I need to grow a third eye just for distracted drivers
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on September 16, 2011, 02:59:56 PM
I agree Rick, while driving and using a cell phone isn't safe, the things that some others do while driving, is worse.

I'll even admit, at a red light I will check my phone once in a while, or on the highway on a straight away if I'm driving alone and there is no traffic (very minimal traffic in Manitoba, I can go 30 mins easily without seeing a vehicle, during the day, hours without at night and that is on the major highway in the provience too), but I won't spend more then a couple seconds at a time looking at it. If someone is in the car with me, I always let them check/answer any messages on my phone while I'm driving.
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It drives us motorcycle riders crazy.... seriously.... I need to grow a third eye just for distracted drivers

When my buddy rode his GSX-R 1100, he would always keep some ceramic from spark plugs in his pocket and if/when he was cut off by someone not paying attention (he was hit twice by drivers), he would throw a little piece of the ceramic at their window.... Smash. heh.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on September 16, 2011, 03:33:24 PM
I HAVE HAD THE HICCUPS FOR TWO HOURS.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 16, 2011, 03:34:53 PM
I HAVE HAD THE HICCUPS FOR TWO HOURS.

BOO!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on September 16, 2011, 04:24:42 PM
Alexei Yashin signed to 5 year deal by Ottawa!

Darcy Tucker joins the Senators as assistant coach!

CONFIRMED: Sens trade Jared Cowen to Minnesota for Dany Heatley!

UUAARGH!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on September 16, 2011, 07:20:12 PM
Alexei Yashin signed to 5 year deal by Ottawa!

Darcy Tucker joins the Senators as assistant coach!

CONFIRMED: Sens trade Jared Cowen to Minnesota for Dany Heatley!

UUAARGH!!

Those moves would make ottawa a much better team.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on September 16, 2011, 11:30:46 PM
I HAVE HAD THE HICCUPS FOR TWO HOURS.

I feel for you. When I get them, it lasts for hours. On a number of occasions; days.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 19, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
"The federal government has served notice it will introduce back-to-work legislation should there be a strike by Air Canada’s 6,800 flight attendants on Wednesday, Federal Minister of Labour Lisa Raitt said Monday."

Earlier, she had told the Commons, "we will act to protect Canada's economy."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/09/19/back-to-work-law-looms-in-air-canada-dispute_n_970764.html

Ms. Raitt, go massage you colon you dizzy, dizzy cow!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 20, 2011, 06:23:22 AM
"The federal government has served notice it will introduce back-to-work legislation should there be a strike by Air Canada’s 6,800 flight attendants on Wednesday, Federal Minister of Labour Lisa Raitt said Monday."

Earlier, she had told the Commons, "we will act to protect Canada's economy."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/09/19/back-to-work-law-looms-in-air-canada-dispute_n_970764.html

Ms. Raitt, go massage you colon you dizzy, dizzy cow!
$10 says her luggage mysteriously disappears on her next flight.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on September 20, 2011, 03:08:27 PM
Blistered sunburns in September. Oh the life of a fair skinned, red head.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 22, 2011, 11:56:22 AM
Is it so difficult to look in the same direction you are walking (or driving)? 3 people have nearly collided with me this morning.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on September 22, 2011, 12:33:37 PM
Is it so difficult to look in the same direction you are walking (or driving)? 3 people have nearly collided with me this morning.

I second this.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on September 22, 2011, 07:09:43 PM
Is it so difficult to look in the same direction you are walking (or driving)? 3 people have nearly collided with me this morning.

I second this.

Totally agree.... try it on a motorcycle sometime... egads
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on September 22, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
Whenever my mechanic services my car he has to move the drivers seat because he is a lot shorter than me and can't reach the clutch. He also changes the tilt and telescopes my steering wheel.

My complaint is that I can never seem to get everything back to EXACTLY where it was.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on September 23, 2011, 01:15:55 PM
Whenever my mechanic services my car he has to move the drivers seat because he is a lot shorter than me and can't reach the clutch. He also changes the tilt and telescopes my steering wheel.

My complaint is that I can never seem to get everything back to EXACTLY where it was.

At least it's just your mechanic.  I have to put up with this whenever my husband or my 18 yr old son drive my van!  Irritates the heck out of me!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on September 24, 2011, 02:19:40 AM
How difficult is it to signal lane changes/turns?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 24, 2011, 06:32:22 AM
How difficult is it to signal lane changes/turns?
Too difficult for too many. In addition, usage of the turn signal does not give you a god given right to cut others off (just because you told them you were going to)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 25, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
Cancer.  :( My neigbour (such a nice woman) found out she's got a 3 X 2cm tumor which is attached to her optic? nerve. Anyway, best case (the very best case) scenario is they remove it and she completely loses all sense of smell and taste and she has to have radiation every 2 (or so) years for the rest of her life.... However long that is. Worst case scenario is the obvious one. I can't stop thinking about her. I'm not sure how to be the good neighbour here. I mean, how do I handle this? I want to do all I can for her and her family but at the same time, I want to give her space  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on September 25, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
Cancer.  :( My neigbour (such a nice woman) found out she's got a 3 X 2cm tumor which is attached to her optic? nerve. Anyway, best case (the very best case) scenario is they remove it and she completely loses all sense of smell and taste and she has to have radiation every 2 (or so) years for the rest of her life.... However long that is. Worst case scenario is the obvious one. I can't stop thinking about her. I'm not sure how to be the good neighbour here. I mean, how do I handle this? I want to do all I can for her and her family but at the same time, I want to give her space  :-\

My mom beat lung cancer twice.  Second time the prognosis wasn't good, but she was a feisty lady.  First time they operated to take out part of her lung.  Second time around - chemo and radiation.  I tell ya, it's the hardest thing to try and support someone.  Offer to help out with groceries, mail, take her some cut-up veggies and fruit now and then, as well as healthy meals on occasion.  She's likely to eat less because she'll be so tired from this, but you can keep her eating fresh foods without her realizing how much you're keeping her health up!

Good luck - cancer can be beaten!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 25, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
What Rick said, Floyd.

 I'd go over there with the fruit and/or veggie tray and a card with your telephone number on it. Let her/the family know what you're willing to do for them (and you'd be surprised how much help something as simple as 'I'll walk/feed the dog if you have a medical appointment that goes overtime' etc kind of thin helps). Everyone always says stuff like "if you need anything" and it rings hollow. If you can, be specific: 'If you need a ride'/'If you need someone to watch the kids'/'can i pick up groceries' etc.....

And bless you for being so thoughtful.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on September 25, 2011, 12:46:31 PM
My son wasnt supposed to survive treatment, 7 years ago... forget the worst case scenario... Support is key. Many here were part of that support for me... it was amazingly helpful.... I'm sure the kharma was a huge part... dont wait to seek it out, and certainly dont wait to offer it up... no matter what happens, you can always know you contributed to making someone feel wanted, and secure... thats good kharma
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on September 25, 2011, 01:05:41 PM
Thanks for the advice, guys. She told my wife (whom she also works with) that the worst thing for her is when people say "I'm sure it'll all be fine" when she knows that even with a miracle, things will be tough. I mean the info is just days old and she herself is still trying to process it. Imagine not being able to smell or taste? It's just so sad.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on September 25, 2011, 01:51:43 PM
Imagine not being able to smell or taste? It's just so sad.

It'd be like living in Hamilton...

Cancer sucks.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on September 25, 2011, 02:32:47 PM
My son wasnt supposed to survive treatment, 7 years ago... forget the worst case scenario... Support is key. Many here were part of that support for me... it was amazingly helpful.... I'm sure the kharma was a huge part... dont wait to seek it out, and certainly dont wait to offer it up... no matter what happens, you can always know you contributed to making someone feel wanted, and secure... thats good kharma

Yeah, I remember those days all too well.  I remember being in tears with the coaches corner blurb.  Your family has done well, and Terry has been a amazing trooper - I love it each time you give an update to what sport he's doing, usually a grueling contact sport ;)  Yes, it CAN be beaten.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on September 25, 2011, 05:08:07 PM
If cancer had a face I would punch it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on September 25, 2011, 10:23:52 PM
Imagine not being able to smell or taste? It's just so sad.

It'd be like living in Hamilton...

Cancer sucks.  :P

I too remember and thats why I support you Rick... without reservation... Kharma brother...kharma
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 29, 2011, 09:10:31 PM
I feel like I'm starting to get a bunion in my right foot now...ughhh
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on September 29, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
If cancer had a face I would punch it.

...and then the not stopping...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on September 29, 2011, 11:08:09 PM
If cancer had a face I would punch it.

...and then the not stopping...
it never stops being bad... and hey Rick, I know it... you need something? If I can deliver I'm so there for you brother... just so you know
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on September 30, 2011, 01:52:21 AM
In the grocery checkout line...

Why do old ladies wait for the cashier to announce the total before they decide to open their purse and dig out their chequebook?

I mean would it kill them to start filling out at least some of the details beforehand?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on September 30, 2011, 02:38:59 AM

Paying by cheque at the grocery store? I haven't seen that in a long long time.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on September 30, 2011, 03:08:43 AM

Paying by cheque at the grocery store? I haven't seen that in a long long time.

There are some pretty stubborn old folks.  Love em' but come on...coming from somebody who pays by phone at Starbucks.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 30, 2011, 09:33:18 AM
wow, really? we don't take cheques at all at the grocery store where I work. Not even government baby bonus cheques etc.

But equally as frustrating as the slow cheque writer is the old biddy who waits until the cashier tells her how much it is to get out her purse. And then rifle through it for the wallet, struggle with the wallet to find the bills, go through all the bills to make as close as the amount (one bill at a time, I might add)....then go back for the coin purse to dig out fifty seven cents....one coin at a time, and recounting the amount or forgetting where they were. (In the meantime, the person behind her in line with one apple could have tilled the ground, planted the tree, grown the apple and picked it by the time the old lady's done)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: lamajama on September 30, 2011, 11:44:56 AM
wow, really? we don't take cheques at all at the grocery store where I work. Not even government baby bonus cheques etc.

But equally as frustrating as the slow cheque writer is the old biddy who waits until the cashier tells her how much it is to get out her purse. And then rifle through it for the wallet, struggle with the wallet to find the bills, go through all the bills to make as close as the amount (one bill at a time, I might add)....then go back for the coin purse to dig out fifty seven cents....one coin at a time, and recounting the amount or forgetting where they were. (In the meantime, the person behind her in line with one apple could have tilled the ground, planted the tree, grown the apple and picked it by the time the old lady's done)

THANK YOU!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on September 30, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
If we're complaining about people in the grocery store, how about people who stop in the middle of aisles with complete disregard for anyone around them.  They take up the whole flippin' aisle so nobody can get by and are completely oblivious.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 30, 2011, 12:33:49 PM
If we're complaining about people in the grocery store, how about people who stop in the middle of aisles with complete disregard for anyone around them.  They take up the whole flippin' aisle so nobody can get by and are completely oblivious.
I have just taken to plowing into them or their carts.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on September 30, 2011, 12:36:15 PM
In the grocery checkout line...

Why do old ladies wait for the cashier to announce the total before they decide to open their purse and dig out their chequebook?

I mean would it kill them to start filling out at least some of the details beforehand?

Not just at the grocery store, also at Finch station parking lots - they've got all the time in the world while in line to get their credit card / coins out...but only start rummaging when they are at the gate.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on September 30, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
Don't get me started on the people in the Tim Horton's drive through that order the following;

Medium coffee, in a large double cup, with a shot of vanilla flavour, 1/3 decaf, 1/17 milk, 3/17 cream, 13/17 distilled water, half of an artificial sweetener, 1/4 tablespoon of sugar, a sesame seed bagel - 2 5/8 toasted with butter on one half, light strawberry cream cheese on the side, 40 timbits (which they choose one by one), and what kind of donuts and muffins do you have?

THEN they do the fumble for change routine!! >:(

oh - and can you hurry it up, I'm late for my train.......
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 30, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
Don't get me started on the people in the Tim Horton's drive through that order the following;

Medium coffee, in a large double cup, with a shot of vanilla flavour, 1/3 decaf, 1/17 milk, 3/17 cream, 13/17 distilled water, half of an artificial sweetener, 1/4 tablespoon of sugar, a sesame seed bagel - 2 5/8 toasted with butter on one half, light strawberry cream cheese on the side, 40 timbits (which they choose one by one), and what kind of donuts and muffins do you have?

THEN they do the fumble for change routine!! >:(

oh - and can you hurry it up, I'm late for my train.......

and this is one of the reasons I *never* go through the drive through (unless it's after hours where you can't actually go into the Timmie's)....Several times I've run in to the shop to get the coffees we require, and when I come out, the same SUV that was fifth in line in the drive through is still fifth in line, or perhaps up to fourth. It's not faster.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on September 30, 2011, 01:12:56 PM
If we're complaining about people in the grocery store, how about people who stop in the middle of aisles with complete disregard for anyone around them.  They take up the whole flippin' aisle so nobody can get by and are completely oblivious.

watch how fast they can move when you move their cart out of the way  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stronger Than All on September 30, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
The Tim Hortons drive through is ridiculous in the morning.  There is no way I'd sit through that line-up and be late for work for a coffee when we have 5 different types of coffee in our office for free to choose from.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on September 30, 2011, 04:32:50 PM
I hate everyone..................... I figured that was where we are headed in this thread so why not jump to the end :D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on September 30, 2011, 04:37:31 PM
The Tim Hortons drive through is ridiculous in the morning.  There is no way I'd sit through that line-up and be late for work for a coffee when we have 5 different types of coffee in our office for free to choose from.

I just don't get the national fascination with Tim Horton's.   Why wait in line for 20 minutes for bad coffee when you can make better coffee at home in half the time for a fraction of the price?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on September 30, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
The Tim Hortons drive through is ridiculous in the morning.  There is no way I'd sit through that line-up and be late for work for a coffee when we have 5 different types of coffee in our office for free to choose from.

I'll be right over. Do you have drive thru?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: lamajama on September 30, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
Is it only me who gets behind idiots who have never used an ATM machine?

- Bend close to the ATM (about 6" away from the screen)
- flip their ATM card over and back about 3-4 times until they *perhaps*
get it right
- bend over again to read the instructions
- enter their code thusly - #, pause, pause,#, pause, pause, #, pause, pause, pause,#
- bend over again to read the instructions
- enter their option thusly - pause, pause,#
- look around for the deposit envelope, which are scattered on the ground around the machine
- stuff the envelope, seal it and  flip the envelope over and back about 3-4 times until they *perhaps* get it right
- repeat to take out money

GD IT!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on September 30, 2011, 05:16:49 PM
I just don't get the national fascination with Tim Horton's.   Why wait in line for 20 minutes for bad coffee when you can make better coffee at home in half the time for a fraction of the price?

Tim Horton's is all about the baked goods. At least, that's the only reason I ever go there. Oh, and the Iced Capps. Like you said, just about everything else on the menu, you can make better at home for a fraction of the cost.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on September 30, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
I just don't get the national fascination with Tim Horton's.   Why wait in line for 20 minutes for bad coffee when you can make better coffee at home in half the time for a fraction of the price?

Tim Horton's is all about the baked goods. At least, that's the only reason I ever go there. Oh, and the Iced Capps. Like you said, just about everything else on the menu, you can make better at home for a fraction of the cost.

If by baked you mean reheated, Frozen product, then yes, it is baked.  For a brief period of time I actually made the stuff, when you would get up in the middle of the night, go to the store and do the bake.  Go home, and come back if more was needed around 11AM and work about 4-5 hours and get paid for a full shift.  Now it all goes in an easy bake oven.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on September 30, 2011, 06:09:35 PM
If by baked you mean reheated, Frozen product, then yes, it is baked.  For a brief period of time I actually made the stuff, when you would get up in the middle of the night, go to the store and do the bake.  Go home, and come back if more was needed around 11AM and work about 4-5 hours and get paid for a full shift.  Now it all goes in an easy bake oven.

Well, somewhere along the line, they were baked by someone, otherwise they wouldn't be there at all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on September 30, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
If by baked you mean reheated, Frozen product, then yes, it is baked.  For a brief period of time I actually made the stuff, when you would get up in the middle of the night, go to the store and do the bake.  Go home, and come back if more was needed around 11AM and work about 4-5 hours and get paid for a full shift.  Now it all goes in an easy bake oven.

Well, somewhere along the line, they were baked by someone, otherwise they wouldn't be there at all.

Baked and then flash-frozen.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on September 30, 2011, 11:05:58 PM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 01, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
The Tim Hortons drive through is ridiculous in the morning.  There is no way I'd sit through that line-up and be late for work for a coffee when we have 5 different types of coffee in our office for free to choose from.

I just don't get the national fascination with Tim Horton's.   Why wait in line for 20 minutes for bad coffee when you can make better coffee at home in half the time for a fraction of the price?

No matter how many times I make coffee at home, no matter how many times I look up different ways to make it, I never notice much of a difference in any filter-drip coffee I make at home.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 01, 2011, 02:11:38 AM
Oh, and my complaint is people who complain about meteorologists getting the forecast wrong.  It's not a guarantee and it never has been! They can't control the weather.  If you don't think they are accurate, don't read it and go figure it out yourself.

Which is funny because there was an article in one of the papers recently about a book where the author researched how often 'experts' on different subjects were correct with predictions, and the ones they found the most accurate were weather forecasters.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on October 01, 2011, 02:27:48 AM
Oh, and my complaint is people who complain about meteorologists getting the forecast wrong.  It's not a guarantee and it never has been! They can't control the weather.  If you don't think they are accurate, don't read it and go figure it out yourself

Which is funny because there was an article in one of the papers recently about a book where the author researched how often 'experts' on different subjects were correct with predictions, and the ones they found the most accurate were weather forecasters.


Haha thats hilarious, thats a pet peeve of mine too.

Um, maybe its not that easy to predict, jackass.  Besides, I think they do a pretty good job of getting it right.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on October 01, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 01, 2011, 10:20:31 AM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.

Haha - the one on University?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 01, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
TTC - Making people late for work since 1954.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on October 02, 2011, 01:38:31 PM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.

Haha - the one on University?

Nope, the one in Uptown Waterloo. University was like that but they rearranged the line. It takes 20 there to be out the door now  ;) Still happens sometimes with Laurier across the street, but Uptown is the worst.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 02, 2011, 02:39:45 PM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.

Haha - the one on University?

Nope, the one in Uptown Waterloo. University was like that but they rearranged the line. It takes 20 there to be out the door now  ;) Still happens sometimes with Laurier across the street, but Uptown is the worst.

I'm trying to remember where the one uptown was....that the one on King by the LCBO?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on October 02, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.

Haha - the one on University?

Nope, the one in Uptown Waterloo. University was like that but they rearranged the line. It takes 20 there to be out the door now  ;) Still happens sometimes with Laurier across the street, but Uptown is the worst.

I'm trying to remember where the one uptown was....that the one on King by the LCBO?

That's the one.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 03, 2011, 01:47:40 AM
Just go to the LCBO. Likely to be less of a lineup, and the selection is much nicer.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 03, 2011, 01:02:03 PM
Apple, and thier and proprietary BS.

I bought an iPad2 and I have a bunch of USB power adapters... but unless I plug the iPad cable into the the USB adapter that comes with the iPad, it doesn't charge So if I want to have chargers in multiple rooms, I have to go get another apple approved adapter, and as usual, they charge twice as much as the rest of the world for a simple item.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 03, 2011, 01:35:20 PM
Deebo,

always check monoprice.com first.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 03, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
Thanks, at least I won't have to pay Apple's ridiculous prices if I need to get a new charger.

It would still be nice if i could just use the adapters I have, but that's Apple.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 03, 2011, 05:10:41 PM
Deebo,

always check monoprice.com first.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2)

The drawback to Monoprice, and the reason shops still get my money, is the time factor. When I need a cable, I typically need it now. Not a week from now. And unless you're buying several items, the shipping costs alone eat into a significant portion of any savings.

That said, if you plan ahead, or can afford to wait, they really do have good prices.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 03, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on October 03, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
Thats why I love my Starbucks...its so expensive, i never have to wait in line ;)

Then I guess you've never been to one in Waterloo. I visit 2 locations and there are times when the line is long enough to make me turn around and leave. Then again a line of 10 at one of them is long enough to be out the doors.

Haha - the one on University?

Nope, the one in Uptown Waterloo. University was like that but they rearranged the line. It takes 20 there to be out the door now  ;) Still happens sometimes with Laurier across the street, but Uptown is the worst.

I'm trying to remember where the one uptown was....that the one on King by the LCBO?

TO THE SKILLET!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on October 03, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Deebo,

always check monoprice.com first.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=11201&cs_id=1120102&p_id=7865&seq=1&format=2)

The drawback to Monoprice, and the reason shops still get my money, is the time factor. When I need a cable, I typically need it now. Not a week from now. And unless you're buying several items, the shipping costs alone eat into a significant portion of any savings.

That said, if you plan ahead, or can afford to wait, they really do have good prices.

I can attest to Monoprice as well. Lots of high quality stuff there. There's a nice iPad 2 case on there as well for $6.XX
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 03, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
Come on, old people.   Clutch is not death metal.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 04, 2011, 09:56:39 AM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)

Places like Tigerdirect and Canada Computers have reasonably priced HDMI cables.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stronger Than All on October 04, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
Come on, old people.   Clutch is not death metal.

wow.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on October 04, 2011, 11:23:20 AM
Come on, old people.   Clutch is not death metal.

wow.

lol.... hard maybe, but certainly not death....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on October 04, 2011, 12:43:16 PM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)

Places like Tigerdirect and Canada Computers have reasonably priced HDMI cables.

Same with Walmart, I got a 20 foot HDMI cable for $20. Can't beat the price.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 04, 2011, 01:00:24 PM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)

Places like Tigerdirect and Canada Computers have reasonably priced HDMI cables.

If you live out West, there is a place called "princess auto" (Kind of like a cross between Canadian Tire, and Active Surplus) that sells HDMI cables for $20.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on October 04, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)

Places like Tigerdirect and Canada Computers have reasonably priced HDMI cables.

If you live out West, there is a place called "princess auto" (Kind of like a cross between Canadian Tire, and Active Surplus) that sells HDMI cables for $20.

There's one in Whitby on Victoria Street
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 04, 2011, 05:14:36 PM
$2.50 for an HDMI cable at monoprice with a comparable cable for $60+ at futureshop? I'm willing to wait a few days. :)

Places like Tigerdirect and Canada Computers have reasonably priced HDMI cables.

If you live out West, there is a place called "princess auto" (Kind of like a cross between Canadian Tire, and Active Surplus) that sells HDMI cables for $20.

There's one in Whitby on Victoria Street

West Whitby?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on October 04, 2011, 05:17:31 PM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 04, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad.

Do you have home paper delivery?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on October 04, 2011, 05:23:31 PM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad.

Do you have home paper delivery?

I do not, but I live in a town house complex and some of my neighbours do. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 04, 2011, 06:12:58 PM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad.

Do you have home paper delivery?

I do not, but I live in a town house complex and some of my neighbours do.

Lynch the paper boy.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on October 04, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad.

You can get a small DVR and spy camera.  They are pretty cheap.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on October 06, 2011, 08:44:04 AM
Somebody has got into my minivan twice in the last couple months.  They took some change, Tim Hortons card, $25 Keg gift card and my cell phone the first time.  Last night, they took an empty Tim Hortons card, and some change.  Both times the car was left unlocked.  I normally lock the car, odd occasion car is left unlocked.

I want to camp out in the van and catch the freak and make him/her hurt real bad.

You can get a small DVR and spy camera.  They are pretty cheap.

Some other neighbours have had stuff go missing too.  Cops are not very interested, their answer is "keep your car locked".  Well yes ok, I understand that, but what gives someone the right to get into your car and take what they want? Locked or unlocked?  If they broke into the car, different story cops say. 

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 06, 2011, 01:24:23 PM
It's not that they aren't interested. There's just nothing they can really do. There are no suspects and no witnesses, and the items taken aren't traceable (except for maybe your cell phone).

Perhaps you should call your cell company and ask them if they can trace your phone's serial number? I believe some phone companies can do that, but I'm not sure. Maybe you can find out if anyone is using your stolen phone and trace it back to whoever he got it from?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on October 12, 2011, 01:52:52 PM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 12, 2011, 04:10:00 PM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.

lol
great post
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 12, 2011, 06:46:44 PM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.
I tried to milk a wooden cow once........there was no second date.......
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 12, 2011, 06:59:21 PM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.
I tried to milk a wooden cow once........there was no second date.......

Too many splinters?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 12, 2011, 08:11:09 PM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.
I tried to milk a wooden cow once........there was no second date.......

Too many splinters?
A true gentleman never milks and tells ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on October 13, 2011, 09:45:07 AM
Anybody been to Whittamore Farm?  Man what a ripoff for that dump.  Had one goat, one cow, and 3 ducks.  A slide, a treehouse and a shabby lookin tractor ride.  But at least you can milk a wooden cow.
I tried to milk a wooden cow once........there was no second date.......

Too many splinters?

Probably started a small fire.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 14, 2011, 02:40:05 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on October 14, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

I'm with Teksavvy. 350GB month limit.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 14, 2011, 02:41:55 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

I'm with Teksavvy. 350GB month limit.

Ah, so there is a limit, it's just high.. ;)

Rogers will offer you a 350GB limit, too. You just have to pay through the nose for it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

Bell
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: chestyleroux on October 14, 2011, 02:44:00 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

I'm with Teksavvy. 350GB month limit.

Ah, so there is a limit, it's just high.. ;)

Rogers will offer you a 350GB limit, too. You just have to pay through the nose for it.

Teksavvy also has an unlimited plan. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on October 14, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
My brother-in-law lives in the country between Brantford and Ancaster.  They own a farm.

There's no Rogers Cable, the phone lines won't allow for Bell internet.  They've had sporadic 28.8 modem dialup.  Last thing they tried was Rogers Mobile Stick, which was sporadic due to location, and expensive.

Any ideas?  The want to use their connection to go wireless between the farmhouse and the barn office.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2011, 02:54:43 PM
My brother-in-law lives in the country between Brantford and Ancaster.  They own a farm.

There's no Rogers Cable, the phone lines won't allow for Bell internet.  They've had sporadic 28.8 modem dialup.  Last thing they tried was Rogers Mobile Stick, which was sporadic due to location, and expensive.

Any ideas?  The want to use their connection to go wireless between the farmhouse and the barn office.

Thoughts?

It's not necessarily the most cost effective solution, but, have they looked into the availability of a satellite ISP?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 14, 2011, 03:02:26 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

Bell

Do you download a lot?

What kind of speed do you get?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 03:10:49 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

Bell

Do you download a lot?

What kind of speed do you get?

I'm not sure, but it's pretty fast. I don't download that much.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 14, 2011, 03:43:31 PM
Rogers commercials! The one with the two ladies operating the switchboard is particularly grating.

If Internet through my phone line is so archaic, how come it offers me unlimited usage where Rogers can't (won't)?

Who are you with that they don't have a limit?

Bell

Do you download a lot?

What kind of speed do you get?

I'm not sure, but it's pretty fast. I don't download that much.

www.speedtest.net will show you your speeds.

I am with MTS and they have no limit on how much you can download either.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 14, 2011, 03:49:37 PM
I had Bell's internet service for a while when I was in University, and I found it was less than half the speed of the cable connection I switched to, and much less reliable. It would routinely cut out on me 4 or 5 times a day - even though, it would only be for a 10-15 seconds at a time. While it's likely they've improved on it since then, I felt like they had a long way to go to catch up to the cable providers, who have also improved in that time. while it's great that Bell offers unlimited bandwidth (though, based on the packages advertised on their website, that doesn't appear to actually be the case - the packages they advertise have similar caps to what Rogers advertises), I'd rather have less of what I've found to be the superior service.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 14, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
I think Wightman is unlimited as well.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 14, 2011, 05:02:48 PM
I had Bell's internet service for a while when I was in University, and I found it was less than half the speed of the cable connection I switched to, and much less reliable. It would routinely cut out on me 4 or 5 times a day - even though, it would only be for a 10-15 seconds at a time. While it's likely they've improved on it since then, I felt like they had a long way to go to catch up to the cable providers, who have also improved in that time. while it's great that Bell offers unlimited bandwidth (though, based on the packages advertised on their website, that doesn't appear to actually be the case - the packages they advertise have similar caps to what Rogers advertises), I'd rather have less of what I've found to be the superior service.

Our unlimited bandwidth is grandfathered. I'm not in a big hurry so I'll take the slightly slower speed in favour of never having to worry about going over my limit. (I realize this isn't an option for everyone)

Aside from the impossibly annoying Rogers commercials, I don't like the fact that they flat out lie to me when I ask them for unlimited bandwidth in exchange for switching from Bell, or the fact that they offered a 30 dollar gift card for 27 years of service and they didn't even bother to send it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 14, 2011, 06:30:03 PM
I had Bell's internet service for a while when I was in University, and I found it was less than half the speed of the cable connection I switched to, and much less reliable. It would routinely cut out on me 4 or 5 times a day - even though, it would only be for a 10-15 seconds at a time. While it's likely they've improved on it since then, I felt like they had a long way to go to catch up to the cable providers, who have also improved in that time. while it's great that Bell offers unlimited bandwidth (though, based on the packages advertised on their website, that doesn't appear to actually be the case - the packages they advertise have similar caps to what Rogers advertises), I'd rather have less of what I've found to be the superior service.

Same here, I download at anywhere from 4 to 7 MB/sec.

I got a 6.8GB file in like 40 minutes last week, my buddies on bell don't get anywhere near speeds like that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 15, 2011, 10:12:24 PM
The lyrics are not "Our True North strong and free". Get it right, you anthem singers!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 15, 2011, 10:24:24 PM
That's pretty nitpicky.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 15, 2011, 10:47:21 PM
I dunno. One is the lyrics, the other is not. They are completely different words. They don't start with the same letter, or have any of the same letters in them, and mean different things, though I suppose in the context of the song you could stretch it.

But then again, maybe I am nitpicking, Toskala35 ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 16, 2011, 09:46:22 AM
Yep, you're nitpicking.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 16, 2011, 02:32:29 PM
I don't agree. It's a common mistake.


Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on October 17, 2011, 09:04:22 AM

1. People who talk about their fantasy teams
2. People who say "should of" instead of "should have"
3. Commercials that seem to think that people acting like jerks to each other somehow convinces me to buy a product(I'm looking at you, Rogers)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 17, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
1. Labeling threads "official" such-and-such for no real reason.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on October 17, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
2. People who say "should of" instead of "should have"

I understand there are some people probably saying that, but I feel the majority are saying "should've" and it just sounds like "should of".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on October 17, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: The Red Polar Bear
I understand there are some people probably saying that, but I feel the majority are saying "should've" and it just sounds like "should of".

Fair enough, people who write it that way then.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 17, 2011, 10:50:40 AM

1. People who talk about their fantasy teams


In a hockey forum? For shame!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on October 17, 2011, 10:52:14 AM
In a hockey forum? For shame!

Talk, not write, princess.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 17, 2011, 10:54:30 AM
In a hockey forum? For shame!

Talk, not write, princess.

Ah, well thanks for clearing that up then sunshine.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on October 17, 2011, 10:55:33 AM
Ah, well thanks for clearing that up then sunshine.

It's ok. I'd understand why you'd feel defensive.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 17, 2011, 10:58:30 AM
Ah, well thanks for clearing that up then sunshine.

It's ok. I'd understand why you'd feel defensive.

If you two kids don't quiet down, I'll turn this thread around and we'll all just have to stay home this weekend!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 17, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
Sorry Dad... Are we there yet?  8)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 17, 2011, 03:24:59 PM
Sorry Dad... Are we there yet?  8)

but.....I'm bored!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 17, 2011, 03:27:25 PM
Sorry Dad... Are we there yet?  8)

but.....I'm bored!

... and I have to pee!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 17, 2011, 03:28:39 PM
We just passed a gas station 30 minutes ago. Why didn't you get out and pee then!?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 17, 2011, 03:28:57 PM
Sorry Dad... Are we there yet?  8)

but.....I'm bored!

... and I have to pee!

Marge, can I have another sandwich?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 17, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
We just passed a gas station 30 minutes ago. Why didn't you get out and pee then!?

Because I didn't have to go then.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 17, 2011, 06:34:48 PM
The word pee - that's my complaint
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 18, 2011, 10:51:39 AM
Jets fans, frig they are annoying after thier first win, you beat the Pens, a team without their two top players, which are also 2 of the top players in the league, settle down!

Also being so nit picky about when the first goal was scored last night.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on October 18, 2011, 11:12:38 AM
I think the Winnipeg sports fan has generally become a little to arrogant what with all their Swag crap all summer and now the Jets. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 18, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
I think the Winnipeg sports fan has generally become a little to arrogant what with all their Swag crap all summer and now the Jets.

yea, the swag thing was really annoying and seeing the team fall back to earth after since the half way point to the season.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on October 18, 2011, 11:53:13 AM
I have really enjoyed watching other teams who have beat the Bombers make fun of all the Swag crap.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 18, 2011, 12:46:43 PM
I have really enjoyed watching other teams who have beat the Bombers make fun of all the Swag crap.

There were quite a few good signs by Riders fans at the Banjo Bowl game making fun of the swag crap, I can't remember them now though, wish I could.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 18, 2011, 12:53:09 PM
They live in Winnipeg. They don't have much else.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Erndog on October 18, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
I think the Winnipeg sports fan has generally become a little to arrogant what with all their Swag crap all summer and now the Jets.

yea, the swag thing was really annoying and seeing the team fall back to earth after since the half way point to the season.

Oh jebus...

(http://www.hot103live.com/Pics/PhotoAlbums/118197/6/IMG_0631__240X240.Jpeg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on October 18, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
The word "trending" ..... arghhhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 18, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
The word "trending" ..... arghhhhhhhh

I actually love that word, we using graphs to trend how a lot of our equipment runs (time it runs, voltage/current ratings, water flows) and it helps out a lot in determining when a piece of equipment isnt running efficiently! Our trends help us out a lot and save us time troubleshooting or correcting a situation before it becomes a bigger problem.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 18, 2011, 02:53:38 PM
The word "trending" ..... arghhhhhhhh

I actually love that word, we using graphs to trend how a lot of our equipment runs (time it runs, voltage/current ratings, water flows) and it helps out a lot in determining when a piece of equipment isnt running efficiently! Our trends help us out a lot and save us time troubleshooting or correcting a situation before it becomes a bigger problem.

I'm torn...

I hate the word because it's overused, misused, and treated like a buzzword by nearly everyone you run into.

I love the word for the very reasons Leafaholic cites...if utilized properly, trends can save a huge amount of time and money. I couldn't run my department efficiently without trend analysis. Well, I could, but it'd cost a significant amount of money more.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on October 18, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
So, most of you likely know that I've been fighting depression/anxiety on a major scale for 18 months now.  I haven't worked that entire time.  I rec'd EIB for the first 12 months, but nada for the last 6 months.  Oh well, goes with the illness, chewing away all of our savings.

But today I mistakenly leave the freaking dog out of her crate for a few hours and she obliterates:
- my crocs (I wear them everywhere, even to church - shutup, they're awesome)
- my son's black work shoes, bought 3 weeks ago
- my son's converse high-tops, bought late this summer
- my wife's running shoes.

I'm sure that's well over $200 lost by a year-and-a-half old labrador retreiver.  I'm gonna have to be creative to find the cash to replace all those.  I guess I'll hold a bake sale or something...  GRRRR!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 18, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
:-(

just don't be too hard on the dog. I'm sure she didn't mean to be trouble. Maybe she's making a fashion statement?

 You could always tell her it's coming out of her Milkbone money. Make the dog get a part time job to pay for it all!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 18, 2011, 09:10:50 PM
So, most of you likely know that I've been fighting depression/anxiety on a major scale for 18 months now.  I haven't worked that entire time.  I rec'd EIB for the first 12 months, but nada for the last 6 months.  Oh well, goes with the illness, chewing away all of our savings.

But today I mistakenly leave the freaking dog out of her crate for a few hours and she obliterates:
- my crocs (I wear them everywhere, even to church - shutup, they're awesome)
- my son's black work shoes, bought 3 weeks ago
- my son's converse high-tops, bought late this summer
- my wife's running shoes.

I'm sure that's well over $200 lost by a year-and-a-half old labrador retreiver.  I'm gonna have to be creative to find the cash to replace all those.  I guess I'll hold a bake sale or something...  GRRRR!

I had a lab who obliterated our entire living room. At first I thought we had been robbed. Couches moved from one side of the room to the other, broken lamps, overturned coffee table, stuffing from couch cushions all over the place.

Other then this one episode he was the best dog I've ever come across. Just an awesome family member... But holy crap was I ever pissed off.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on October 18, 2011, 09:18:14 PM
Other then this one episode he was the best dog I've ever come across. Just an awesome family member... But holy crap was I ever pissed off.

Holy crap - now that would pretty much have caused me a coronary...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 18, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
while he never ate footwear, we had a dog that chewed up deck wood, carpet, drywall, and part of a couch....he even ate his own doghouse. My husband, who'd just built and insulated the damn dog house, watched as muttli chewed all along the plywood roof....so he poured tabasco sauce all over it. And discovered that there must have been Mexican blood in the German Shepherd/Lab cross, cause the stupid dog ate the tabasco laced wood too.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on October 18, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
So, most of you likely know that I've been fighting depression/anxiety on a major scale for 18 months now.  I haven't worked that entire time.  I rec'd EIB for the first 12 months, but nada for the last 6 months.  Oh well, goes with the illness, chewing away all of our savings.

But today I mistakenly leave the freaking dog out of her crate for a few hours and she obliterates:
- my crocs (I wear them everywhere, even to church - shutup, they're awesome)
- my son's black work shoes, bought 3 weeks ago
- my son's converse high-tops, bought late this summer
- my wife's running shoes.

I'm sure that's well over $200 lost by a year-and-a-half old labrador retreiver.  I'm gonna have to be creative to find the cash to replace all those.  I guess I'll hold a bake sale or something...  GRRRR!

Conveniently doesn't destroy anything that belongs to your daughter. Maybe every dog doesn't have it's day (insert CSI gif of David Caruso putting on sunglasses) ;D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 19, 2011, 12:41:01 AM
The word "trending" ..... arghhhhhhhh

I actually love that word, we using graphs to trend how a lot of our equipment runs (time it runs, voltage/current ratings, water flows) and it helps out a lot in determining when a piece of equipment isnt running efficiently! Our trends help us out a lot and save us time troubleshooting or correcting a situation before it becomes a bigger problem.

I'm torn...

I hate the word because it's overused, misused, and treated like a buzzword by nearly everyone you run into.

I love the word for the very reasons Leafaholic cites...if utilized properly, trends can save a huge amount of time and money. I couldn't run my department efficiently without trend analysis. Well, I could, but it'd cost a significant amount of money more.

For many of the same reasons: "Branding" and "Social Media".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 19, 2011, 01:50:55 AM
The word "trending" ..... arghhhhhhhh

I actually love that word, we using graphs to trend how a lot of our equipment runs (time it runs, voltage/current ratings, water flows) and it helps out a lot in determining when a piece of equipment isnt running efficiently! Our trends help us out a lot and save us time troubleshooting or correcting a situation before it becomes a bigger problem.

I'm torn...

I hate the word because it's overused, misused, and treated like a buzzword by nearly everyone you run into.

I love the word for the very reasons Leafaholic cites...if utilized properly, trends can save a huge amount of time and money. I couldn't run my department efficiently without trend analysis. Well, I could, but it'd cost a significant amount of money more.

For many of the same reasons: "Branding" and "Social Media".

Too true.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on October 19, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
So, most of you likely know that I've been fighting depression/anxiety on a major scale for 18 months now.  I haven't worked that entire time.  I rec'd EIB for the first 12 months, but nada for the last 6 months.  Oh well, goes with the illness, chewing away all of our savings.

But today I mistakenly leave the freaking dog out of her crate for a few hours and she obliterates:
- my crocs (I wear them everywhere, even to church - shutup, they're awesome)
- my son's black work shoes, bought 3 weeks ago
- my son's converse high-tops, bought late this summer
- my wife's running shoes.

I'm sure that's well over $200 lost by a year-and-a-half old labrador retreiver.  I'm gonna have to be creative to find the cash to replace all those.  I guess I'll hold a bake sale or something...  GRRRR!

Wow, 1.5 yrs old and he/she still goes on the destructive rampage?  You know what, you'll never win this battle...for one of my dogs i gave an effort to remove everything from the floor that might be chewable...so she gnawed on all the trim off the walls and stair posts.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 19, 2011, 01:24:48 PM
Wow, 1.5 yrs old and he/she still goes on the destructive rampage? You know what, you'll never win this battle...for one of my dogs i gave an effort to remove everything from the floor that might be chewable...so she gnawed on all the trim off the walls and stair posts.

Cesar Milan would strongly disagree with you. And then, prove you wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 19, 2011, 01:50:24 PM
Wow, 1.5 yrs old and he/she still goes on the destructive rampage? You know what, you'll never win this battle...for one of my dogs i gave an effort to remove everything from the floor that might be chewable...so she gnawed on all the trim off the walls and stair posts.

Cesar Milan would strongly disagree with you. And then, prove you wrong.

By using ridiculously outdated, cruel, and outright wrong methods of training.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on October 19, 2011, 01:51:05 PM
Wow, 1.5 yrs old and he/she still goes on the destructive rampage? You know what, you'll never win this battle...for one of my dogs i gave an effort to remove everything from the floor that might be chewable...so she gnawed on all the trim off the walls and stair posts.

Cesar Milan would strongly disagree with you. And then, prove you wrong.

.... in 14 seconds flat.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 19, 2011, 03:36:07 PM
Bell Xpressvu, you suck!

We have a reciever in the control room, which we use to listen to radio stations during the shift. Well they don't really have that much for a selection anymore, a lot of station are gone on there now. I was looking for a good classic rock station, but nothing, ughhh

We usually listen to OZ fm all the time, but there is one song they play almost every hour and I'm sick of it lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on October 19, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
The rock of the rock eh!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 19, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
The rock of the rock eh!!!

haha

It is a good station, they play a bit of everything, and Sunday mornings are the best !
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on October 19, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
Do they still do "jiggs and reels" on Sun morning?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 20, 2011, 02:40:43 PM
Immediately after I take a shower I can't use my touch screen device well because my fingers don't slide against the surface. Probably something to do with natural oils in your skin.

Oh the trials and tribulations of poor Odin.... LOL.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on October 20, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Do they still do "jiggs and reels" on Sun morning?

Yep! OZ FM is a decent station, and every Sunday morning is Jiggs & Reels until 1PM.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Ronco on October 20, 2011, 06:59:13 PM
My complaint is with Condo Toronto. I got stuck 3:00 pm coming out of Sick Kids today.
I'm sure many of you have been in this crap.
The thing that Pee's me off the most is the incredible horrible access routes in and off the Gardiner.
I take University and it's a pain going in, and out.
Anyone ever try getting onto Spadina from Front St? Freaking nightmare.
Meanwhile pedestrians, trucks, bad light timings.

The City of Toronto should adopt Hamilton's method.

Move the traffic synchro the lights and get the cars moving. No red/Green/Red B.S

Arghhhhh i almost ate my streeing wheel today.
Rant over.
Beer me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 20, 2011, 08:45:39 PM
We went to 3 different stores tonight to find a Halloween costume for my 10 year old daughter. After much looking around she has the choice of being one of the following this year...

a) skank pirate
b) skank nurse
c) skank vampire
d) general purpose skank (or possibly the lil' porn princess - I couldn't tell)

I would hate to see what the children of these costume designers are like (see the what is wrong with humanity thread)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 20, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
Immediately after I take a shower I can't use my touch screen device well because my fingers don't slide against the surface. Probably something to do with natural oils in your skin.

Oh the trials and tribulations of poor Odin.... LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 21, 2011, 05:04:19 AM
We went to 3 different stores tonight to find a Halloween costume for my 10 year old daughter. After much looking around she has the choice of being one of the following this year...

a) skank pirate
b) skank nurse
c) skank vampire
d) general purpose skank (or possibly the lil' porn princess - I couldn't tell)

I would hate to see what the children of these costume designers are like (see the what is wrong with humanity thread)

this was one of the reasons I made my own costumes for my kids. Luckily enough, the daughter was a figure skater, so I could usually recycle some of those costumes for Hallowe'en. But I recall the conversation, age 11, when she wanted to be Queen Amidala for Hallowe'en. Told there was no way I was sewing up anything that elaborate, she decided to head to the costume store with her allowance. And came home empty-handed.
"All they have for girls is 'slut princesses' and 'hosebag witches'. Can I be Qui-Gon? Is that doable?"   She and her little brother were QuiGon and ObiWan that year, and the biggest expense was the ten bucks each for lightsabres, which they used to play Star Wars with thereafter anyway. Win!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 21, 2011, 06:54:25 AM
Sounds like a smart kid, Lil'.   I commend you on your parenting.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 21, 2011, 06:56:36 AM
Sounds like a smart kid, Lil'.   I commend you on your parenting.
+1

My daughter also wanted nothing to do with the costumes - she said she'd either recycly something, or stay home and hand out candy. I'm sure we'll come up with something fun for her though.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on October 21, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
I hear you on the slutty costumes. That's the only reason most of the girls dress up, and most of them probably shouldn't...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 21, 2011, 10:07:06 AM
On a related note and not at all a complaint - One of my kids want to simply safety pin empty Smarties boxes to her pants. Smartie pants!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on October 21, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
On a related note and not at all a complaint - One of my kids want to simply safety pin empty Smarties boxes to her pants. Smartie pants!  :D

That's awesome!

My daughter is the same.  I bought her a pirate costume last year that by itself was a little "slutty" but she wore leggings underneath and a long sleeved shirt under the bodice thing.  All her idea.

This year, she wants to go as a crayon or an Angry Bird!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 21, 2011, 02:23:28 PM
On a related note and not at all a complaint - One of my kids want to simply safety pin empty Smarties boxes to her pants. Smartie pants!  :D

That's awesome!

My daughter is the same.  I bought her a pirate costume last year that by itself was a little "slutty" but she wore leggings underneath and a long sleeved shirt under the bodice thing.  All her idea.

This year, she wants to go as a crayon or an Angry Bird!

Cool... My other kid I think wants to be a lady-bug zombie... Where do they get this stuff?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 21, 2011, 02:38:25 PM
My daughter wants to go as a bag of jelly beans.

A clear garbage bag around her body, filled with small, coloured balloons!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 21, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
My daughter wants to go as a bag of jelly beans.

A clear garbage bag around her body, filled with small, coloured balloons!

wow! That's creative!
LHF stamp of approval! tell her how smart and creative I think she is!

And further to the Hallowe'en costumes: I made a polar bear costume (surprise) for my son several years ago. He woulda been about 7 or 8 at the time I suppose. His older sister wanted me to make a Leaf sweater for it, so he could go as a Game Day Bear. My son was adamantly against this idea though. He was and is a RedWings fan. I also made all four Teletubbies one year (son was 3 or 4 and a fan at the time) and the four of us went out together.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 21, 2011, 05:34:32 PM
I cracked my left hand at work yesterday - literally. I've been calling it my "Tom Cruise Tropic Thunder" hand since. Painkillers may be involved.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 22, 2011, 02:21:33 AM
Immediately after I take a shower I can't use my touch screen device well because my fingers don't slide against the surface. Probably something to do with natural oils in your skin.

Oh the trials and tribulations of poor Odin.... LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk


One of my favorite bits he does.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 22, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
How the hell do you do all that?   It's taken me like two weeks just to make a biker vest from Sons of Anarchy.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 01:39:46 AM
Upon further review my cracked hand is in fact shattered in 3 spots. Bring on the opiates.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 05:46:43 AM
Third and last hand complaint / whine...I've gotten maybe 45 minutes of sleep so far
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 23, 2011, 08:33:47 AM
That sucks man. I broke my hand many years and had a metal plate inserted. I called it my robocop hand (hey, it was the early '90s).
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
That sucks man. I broke my hand many years and had a metal plate inserted. I called it my robocop hand (hey, it was the early '90s).

Robocop is a classic. Which hand did you break?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 23, 2011, 10:05:41 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 10:08:51 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).

Yeah its my fretboard hand. It's not that bad though that's what open tunings are for I guess. lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 23, 2011, 10:13:40 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).

Yeah its my fretboard hand. It's not that bad though that's what open tunings are for I guess. lol

DADGAD and a slide could work until you go completely crazy. That sucks man.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).

Yeah its my fretboard hand. It's not that bad though that's what open tunings are for I guess. lol

DADGAD and a slide could work until you go completely crazy. That sucks man.

It would really suck if that was my source of income.  Drop D isn't low enough - I had to drop down to C to be able to fret anything. I used to just suck, now I suck and sound like Wes Borland. HELP!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 23, 2011, 10:23:38 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).

Yeah its my fretboard hand. It's not that bad though that's what open tunings are for I guess. lol

DADGAD and a slide could work until you go completely crazy. That sucks man.

It would really suck if that was my source of income.  Drop D isn't low enough - I had to drop down to C to be able to fret anything. I used to just suck, now I suck and sound like Wes Borland. HELP!!


Bah, go drop A , works for The Melvins sometimes...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 10:28:28 AM
That sucks, which hand is it ferret, hopefully not your chording hand ( not that the other is really a lot better ).

Yeah its my fretboard hand. It's not that bad though that's what open tunings are for I guess. lol

DADGAD and a slide could work until you go completely crazy. That sucks man.

It would really suck if that was my source of income.  Drop D isn't low enough - I had to drop down to C to be able to fret anything. I used to just suck, now I suck and sound like Wes Borland. HELP!!


Bah, go drop A , works for The Melvins sometimes...

I'm pretty sure it was The Melvins who made drop D a common tuning - a lot of people credit Soundgarden for that but Thayil always points out he took it from Buzz Osborne <Melvins>....I've never tried playing in open A. Must sound like sludge.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 23, 2011, 10:37:42 AM
I'm pretty sure it was The Melvins who made drop D a common tuning - a lot of people credit Soundgarden for that but Thayil always points out he took it from Buzz Osborne <Melvins>....I've never tried playing in open A. Must sound like sludge.

For the modern context they were definitely influential though the tuning has been around since guitars were first made.

Yeah, the drop A can be pretty wacky, need some telephone poles to do it justice.

Hey, at least you didn't 'Iommi' yourself... :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stronger Than All on October 23, 2011, 11:19:29 AM
I hurt my back wiping down the bathtub.  I feel old.  And also, I should have had my wife do it.......kidding.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 23, 2011, 11:26:51 AM
I hurt my back wiping down the bathtub.  I feel old.  And also, I should have had my wife do it.......kidding.
Don't let her read this or you will feel old, alone, and in a different kind of pain!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 23, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
That sucks man. I broke my hand many years and had a metal plate inserted. I called it my robocop hand (hey, it was the early '90s).

Robocop is a classic. Which hand did you break?

My right hand (I'm right-handed.) By the end of summer I could play some wicked left-handed ping pong.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 23, 2011, 02:10:54 PM
Button fly jeans and a broken hand with a cast was a bad combo back in the day.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 23, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
Sorry 'bout the hand MF.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 23, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Serious this time - last hand related post out of me: I got my new phone today and all I can do is look at it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 25, 2011, 08:07:03 AM
I get it... My employer is shyt. I hear about all day, every day but that should not excuse people from using their manners. I swear to God, the next arsehole who crosses the line is getting all their teeth kicked down their throat.  >:(     
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 25, 2011, 11:11:35 AM
I get it... My employer is shyt. I hear about all day, every day but that should not excuse people from using their manners. I swear to God, the next arsehole who crosses the line is getting all their teeth kicked down their throat.  >:(   

Yup, you definitely saw Drive... ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 25, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Serious this time - last hand related post out of me: I got my new phone today and all I can do is look at it.

Sounds like you could use a hand.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on October 25, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Serious this time - last hand related post out of me: I got my new phone today and all I can do is look at it.

Sounds like you could use a hand.

Can I get a hand over here?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on October 25, 2011, 08:31:08 PM
NHL Gamecenter Live on the PS3 and iPad is terrible.

Stuttering, "We are experiencing technical difficulties" etc on multiple feeds for multiple games.

Seeing as these were available options last year, I thought they would have ironed out the kinks.

Back to the cruel and wicked cable company I suppose.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on October 25, 2011, 08:32:24 PM
I get it... My employer is shyt. I hear about all day, every day but that should not excuse people from using their manners. I swear to God, the next arsehole who crosses the line is getting all their teeth kicked down their throat.  >:(   

Yup, you definitely saw Drive... ;)

 :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on October 25, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
NHL Gamecenter Live on the PS3 and iPad is terrible.

Stuttering, "We are experiencing technical difficulties" etc on multiple feeds for multiple games.

Seeing as these were available options last year, I thought they would have ironed out the kinks.

Back to the cruel and wicked cable company I suppose.

Can't just hook computer up to TV and play it on computer?  If you have a laptop...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 25, 2011, 08:39:47 PM
Lady, I was already stopped well before I would have made contact with your car, and, even if I had, I was going maybe 3 km/h. There was no need to smack my hood with your umbrella.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 25, 2011, 11:55:49 PM
Lady, I was already stopped well before I would have made contact with your car, and, even if I had, I was going maybe 3 km/h. There was no need to smack my hood with your umbrella.

You should have smacked her in the shin with your front bumper.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 26, 2011, 05:41:58 AM
Article in the paper today about a local school district's new policy.

What happened to you when you cheated on a test at school?   Get a 0 as a grade on the test?   A call to your parents?   Suspension?   Not any more, now cheating students will make up the test at a later date.

What about if you didn't hand in an assignment on time?   Did you lose marks on it?   Not any more, now the teachers will work with students to find a more suitable time for it to be completed.

What crap.   Let's make teachers' jobs more difficult, and let stupid kids get away with even more.   If all they want to do is artificially improve students' overall averages, just give them a 90% on every test and assignment.   Don't even bother marking it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 26, 2011, 07:43:40 AM
Article in the paper today about a local school district's new policy.

What happened to you when you cheated on a test at school?   Get a 0 as a grade on the test?   A call to your parents?   Suspension?   Not any more, now cheating students will make up the test at a later date.

What about if you didn't hand in an assignment on time?   Did you lose marks on it?   Not any more, now the teachers will work with students to find a more suitable time for it to be completed.

What crap.   Let's make teachers' jobs more difficult, and let stupid kids get away with even more.   If all they want to do is artificially improve students' overall averages, just give them a 90% on every test and assignment.   Don't even bother marking it.
Ridiculous. It is already insane that they no longer hold a child back who effectively fails the entire year - it really does not help them. God help us when these kids reach the work force with the warped sense of reality that is being thrust upon them. I really fell sorry for the kids, the teachers, and the parents. It's tough enough for all concerned sometimes without imposing foolish policies.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on October 26, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
Article in the paper today about a local school district's new policy.

What happened to you when you cheated on a test at school?   Get a 0 as a grade on the test?   A call to your parents?   Suspension?   Not any more, now cheating students will make up the test at a later date.

What about if you didn't hand in an assignment on time?   Did you lose marks on it?   Not any more, now the teachers will work with students to find a more suitable time for it to be completed.

What crap.   Let's make teachers' jobs more difficult, and let stupid kids get away with even more.   If all they want to do is artificially improve students' overall averages, just give them a 90% on every test and assignment.   Don't even bother marking it.
Ridiculous. It is already insane that they no longer hold a child back who effectively fails the entire year - it really does not help them. God help us when these kids reach the work force with the warped sense of reality that is being thrust upon them. I really fell sorry for the kids, the teachers, and the parents. It's tough enough for all concerned sometimes without imposing foolish policies.

I mean lets face it, its going to be that way in the real world when they have to work right? Bosses will let them call the shots, and give them bonuses to do so...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: You're right on October 26, 2011, 12:10:03 PM
Article in the paper today about a local school district's new policy.

What happened to you when you cheated on a test at school?   Get a 0 as a grade on the test?   A call to your parents?   Suspension?   Not any more, now cheating students will make up the test at a later date.

What about if you didn't hand in an assignment on time?   Did you lose marks on it?   Not any more, now the teachers will work with students to find a more suitable time for it to be completed.

What crap.   Let's make teachers' jobs more difficult, and let stupid kids get away with even more.   If all they want to do is artificially improve students' overall averages, just give them a 90% on every test and assignment.   Don't even bother marking it.
Ridiculous. It is already insane that they no longer hold a child back who effectively fails the entire year - it really does not help them. God help us when these kids reach the work force with the warped sense of reality that is being thrust upon them. I really fell sorry for the kids, the teachers, and the parents. It's tough enough for all concerned sometimes without imposing foolish policies.

I mean lets face it, its going to be that way in the real world when they have to work right? Bosses will let them call the shots, and give them bonuses to do so...
In the politically correct world it is increasingly difficult to hold people accountable - I see it happen more often than I would have ever imagined.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 26, 2011, 12:12:30 PM
So true. It seems like there's an "out" for every situation.

What level of school is this for?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 26, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
I work with some of these scholars I think.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on October 26, 2011, 12:32:43 PM
Lady, I was already stopped well before I would have made contact with your car, and, even if I had, I was going maybe 3 km/h. There was no need to smack my hood with your umbrella.

You should have smacked her in the shin with your front bumper.

I contemplated it, but, she had a kid with her and . . . well, that just would have led nowhere good.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on October 26, 2011, 01:00:02 PM
I work with some of these scholars I think.

Look on the bright side, soon we will be considered geniuses.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on October 26, 2011, 02:22:58 PM
So true. It seems like there's an "out" for every situation.

What level of school is this for?

Eastern School District, which seems to cover all the way from elementary through high school.

The article hasn't been published on the site yet, but this is an opi-ed piece which covers the same subject matter:

http://www.thetelegram.com/Opinion/Editorial/2011-10-25/article-2785452/School-rules/1
Quote
The rules used to be simple: get caught cheating on an exam and you get zero. Hand in an assignment late and lose 10 per cent for each day you don’t hand it in.
Apparently, though, modern children can’t handle absolutes or rules.
The new rules? When a student gets caught cheating, they have to be given another opportunity to write the test — apparently, with the potential to score full marks.
Fail to hand in an assignment? Well, having broken the arrangement to hand in the work on time, students get the opportunity to sign a “contract” with their teacher to hand in the work later. Once again, the consequences are absent.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on October 26, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
I can understand being more leinient with students in elementary school, particularly primary school where the focus should be on learning the basics. I think once you hit grade 7 and definitely in high school, that this kind of coddling is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on October 26, 2011, 03:22:41 PM

In the article, the school board says that it's simply making it's standards align with other local boards. If that's true, does anyone know what the effect this has on things like test scores/drop-out rates/university acceptance or is this a case of principles being offended?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Jalili on October 26, 2011, 03:24:49 PM
If you guys think that stuff is bad, wait til you get wind of the credit mills where students pay ~500 bucks to get a 90 in their high school course of choice.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on October 26, 2011, 07:01:14 PM
Article in the paper today about a local school district's new policy.

What happened to you when you cheated on a test at school?   Get a 0 as a grade on the test?   A call to your parents?   Suspension?   Not any more, now cheating students will make up the test at a later date.

What about if you didn't hand in an assignment on time?   Did you lose marks on it?   Not any more, now the teachers will work with students to find a more suitable time for it to be completed.

What crap.   Let's make teachers' jobs more difficult, and let stupid kids get away with even more.   If all they want to do is artificially improve students' overall averages, just give them a 90% on every test and assignment.   Don't even bother marking it.

I saw that a few days ago on CBC NL. I thought that someone at the Avalon East school board had fallen and hit their head before coming up with this one. To call it a joke is being too kind.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on October 26, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
No wonder people are getting stupider..... lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on October 27, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
can't the game start already, im bored, it's annoying to have to wait...I hate waiting >:(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 27, 2011, 10:57:10 AM
Dentists office.

Right now.

Dual root canal.

See you in a few hours! :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on October 27, 2011, 11:03:07 AM
Dentists office.

Right now.

Dual root canal.

See you in a few hours! :(
if not I want your leaf stuff
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on October 27, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
That stinks Mordac.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on October 27, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
*sigh*

So I'm back.

So it was only one root canal, and two filling replacements, rather than two roots. Though there is still the possibility of either/both filling replacements becoming root canals over the next week.

It's my own fault. I am nearly anal retentive about cleaning my mouth, so I overbrush, with hard bristle brushes, and I scrub all the enamel off the teeth, making them highly susceptible to decay, and other such mouthy maladies.

Have to go back in a couple of weeks to have the final cap over this root canal (just a temp right now), and see what other damage I've done.

Teeth suck.
:(

Sorry, Stebro...I'm keeping my stuff. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 27, 2011, 01:18:36 PM
Dentists office.

Right now.

Dual root canal.

See you in a few hours! :(
if not I want your leaf stuff

LOL!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on October 27, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Shin meets trailer hitch and introduces goose egg... I still wouldn't switch places with you Mordac but yeah, teeth and tibias suck.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on October 27, 2011, 07:31:57 PM
Mordac, my wife has/had the same problem. Dentist said she had the wear and tear on her teeth of a 50 year old (we're both 33.) Same thing, brushing way too hard. We should have known; I get a new tooth brush every four months, just because you're suppose to. After a week, hers look like they've be chewed on by a rabid beaver.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on October 27, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
 Its bad enough to get into the express line at the grocery store with a huge cart of groceries, but to then sit there and hold up the line with flyers from the other stores for price matching? Get in a regular line!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on October 31, 2011, 08:00:40 PM
TSN Jets isnt working again, this is the 3rd or 4th game they have messed up on the broadcast, so much for a free preview of the channel. They can't seem to get it right now, why would I pay for the channel when the free preview is done? BS
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on October 31, 2011, 08:10:26 PM
Its bad enough to get into the express line at the grocery store with a huge cart of groceries, but to then sit there and hold up the line with flyers from the other stores for price matching? Get in a regular line!!!

The cashiers should be instructed to not serve customers who line up at the express checkout with more than items than the limit.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on October 31, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
Its bad enough to get into the express line at the grocery store with a huge cart of groceries, but to then sit there and hold up the line with flyers from the other stores for price matching? Get in a regular line!!!

The cashiers should be instructed to not serve customers who line up at the express checkout with more than items than the limit.

I don't. We don't price match at our store either, but if I see a customer with more than say about 10 items, I tell them before they even start unloading that 'this is the express lane, sir (or ma'am). Please use either the self checkout unit or a regular cashier'  (unless there's no one in the line behind them)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: lamajama on November 01, 2011, 12:56:03 AM
I either lost my wallet or was pick-pocketed yesterday. What a royal pain in the rear to replace everything. The credit cards are easy but the Nexus pass, Driver's License etc that require photo's is a real pain. Including the small misc items like grocery customer card, library card, employee benefit card. AARRRGGGHHHH!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on November 01, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
Greece's political insanity.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: 13 on November 01, 2011, 03:25:39 PM
My complaint is gettin' older. Last wednesday I threw out my back. That's not so unusual, however how I did it makes me dread what lays ahead. After supper I went to pick-up my plate and bring it to the kitchen, simple enough or so ya'd think. While reaching for said plate on table something went. As a result I've been essentially homebound. If I need to get up and do anything I have to stretch for a few minutes. I am NOT impressed. To quote one Mick Jagger "What a drag it is getting old".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on November 01, 2011, 05:58:51 PM
Greece's political insanity.

No insult intended to those of Greek background, but that country is honestly going to implode on its own laziness.  The country is beyond bankrupt and you are making last minute changes in the face of massive loans and bailouts from Northern Europe.  Germany and France are going to tell Greece to hit the road pretty soon and that won't be pretty when the funds stop coming.  Hard to complain about austerity when there isn't enough money to fund anything in the first place.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: 13 on November 02, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
The monkey in the Subway ads.... freaks me out a little. I think it's a close relative of the Evil Monkey living in Chris Griffins closet.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 03, 2011, 02:39:46 PM
Got laid off today  :s
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on November 03, 2011, 02:41:32 PM
Got laid off today  :s

**** Sorry, dude... One door closes, another opens. All the best in the mean time though. Chin up.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Mordac on November 03, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
Got laid off today  :s

Short term? Indefinite duration? Where are you, and what do you do?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on November 03, 2011, 02:52:13 PM
Greece's political insanity.

No insult intended to those of Greek background, but that country is honestly going to implode on its own laziness.  The country is beyond bankrupt and you are making last minute changes in the face of massive loans and bailouts from Northern Europe.  Germany and France are going to tell Greece to hit the road pretty soon and that won't be pretty when the funds stop coming.  Hard to complain about austerity when there isn't enough money to fund anything in the first place.
Hopefully the whole Euro-crap will break down.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 03, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Got laid off today  :s

**** Sorry, dude... One door closes, another opens. All the best in the mean time though. Chin up.

In the meantime - hello EI. I should be ok for a few months...then panic will set in.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on November 03, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
Got laid off today  :s

**** Sorry, dude... One door closes, another opens. All the best in the mean time though. Chin up.

In the meantime - hello EI. I should be ok for a few months...then panic will set in.

What was your job?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 03, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
Got laid off today  :s

Short term? Indefinite duration? Where are you, and what do you do?

Indefinite. I'm in Ottawa and I don't work - I'm temporarily retired.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 03, 2011, 03:18:03 PM
Got laid off today  :s

**** Sorry, dude... One door closes, another opens. All the best in the mean time though. Chin up.

In the meantime - hello EI. I should be ok for a few months...then panic will set in.

What was your job?

Can't really say, as strange as that might sound.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on November 03, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
International assassin for CSIS?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on November 03, 2011, 05:41:21 PM
Just watching global news and they showed a couple surveillance videos of people stealing poppy donation boxes.

WTF! It makes me so heated... I would ruin somebody I caught doing that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on November 03, 2011, 05:50:01 PM
Just watching global news and they showed a couple surveillance videos of people stealing poppy donation boxes.

WTF! It makes me so heated... I would ruin somebody I caught doing that.

It was Madferret!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 04, 2011, 07:46:12 AM
Just watching global news and they showed a couple surveillance videos of people stealing poppy donation boxes.

WTF! It makes me so heated... I would ruin somebody I caught doing that.

It was Madferret!!!!

Apparently they can "lay you off" over stuff like that - who knew
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on November 04, 2011, 11:30:34 AM
Im in a mood where I just feel like telling everyone and everything to f*ck off...so I started by deleting my facebook-account :P

To make a long story short, im tired of most things. I've only had temporary jobs so far in my "career", while I see friends and family get better jobs, better salary, better development and yet they whine a lot. I can take that. I've never had the right to even negotiate my salary since I've had temporary jobs. And what pisses me off is that people around me constantly tell me that I should be happy that I have a temporary job, and that it's better than nothing.

And why should I settle with crap like this time after time after time. And then I should be greatful since I get offered another temporary job with low pay that I am overqualified for. And then it's like people are patting me on the head and telling me that I should be greatful. I'm almost 30 I've never had a "real" job, I've never received a salary increase, I've been overqualified for all the jobs I have had if you look at my education. And I should be greatful.

And then I hear other people with the same education much better work, development, salary increases lots of chances. "Oh, I only got this and that much in salary increase", "oh my salary is so low bohoo bohoo", and then they've got a lot more than me. And I hate it when women do this especially, because they always tell me "well, since you're a male you must have a lot more, I bet you got a really big increase". Then I tell them that im not even allowed to negotiate, and then I tell them that I have a temporary job. Then they get all surprised and stop whining.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on November 08, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
Im in a mood where I just feel like telling everyone and everything to f*ck off...so I started by deleting my facebook-account :P

To make a long story short, im tired of most things. I've only had temporary jobs so far in my "career", while I see friends and family get better jobs, better salary, better development and yet they whine a lot. I can take that. I've never had the right to even negotiate my salary since I've had temporary jobs. And what pisses me off is that people around me constantly tell me that I should be happy that I have a temporary job, and that it's better than nothing.

And why should I settle with crap like this time after time after time. And then I should be greatful since I get offered another temporary job with low pay that I am overqualified for. And then it's like people are patting me on the head and telling me that I should be greatful. I'm almost 30 I've never had a "real" job, I've never received a salary increase, I've been overqualified for all the jobs I have had if you look at my education. And I should be greatful.

And then I hear other people with the same education much better work, development, salary increases lots of chances. "Oh, I only got this and that much in salary increase", "oh my salary is so low bohoo bohoo", and then they've got a lot more than me. And I hate it when women do this especially, because they always tell me "well, since you're a male you must have a lot more, I bet you got a really big increase". Then I tell them that im not even allowed to negotiate, and then I tell them that I have a temporary job. Then they get all surprised and stop whining.

I've still got a few years to catch up to 30, but I definitely hear that. I feel like my B.A. is completely worthless.

Maybe you can get an accreditation at a college for a specific job? I'm thinking about doing a Project Management certification or something of the like.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on November 08, 2011, 05:55:27 PM
Why can't I find rice paper anywhere? I went to an Asian run store the other day and they didn't carry any! I bought all the ingredients for fresh vegetable spring rolls and they're slowly going to waste, and I don't want to go that far out of my way just to buy some rice paper, closest place would be College/Spadina. I can get there as I'm at Keele/Bloor area now, but I don't want to waste $6.00 on fare for $3.00 rice paper!! Serves me right for trying to eat healthier.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 19, 2011, 09:20:25 PM
Complain all you want about the Occupy stuff, but this is messed up:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/california-university-to-investigate-chilling-police-action-against-occupy-protesters/article2242587/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 19, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
That's pretty standard, as the article states. The only way it's really out of line is if the Police are outside their legal bounds to quell the protest. If the University asked for them to be removed, then likely this is not the case.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 19, 2011, 10:18:22 PM
That's pretty standard, as the article states. The only way it's really out of line is if the Police are outside their legal bounds to quell the protest. If the University asked for them to be removed, then likely this is not the case.

Yeah, I think using violence to break up protests is standard practice in Syria too, actually.  No biggie.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 19, 2011, 10:46:53 PM

I liked this quote:

Quote
After reviewing the video, Mr. Kelly said he observed at least two cases of “active resistance” from protesters. In one instance, a woman pulls her arm back from an officer. In the second instance, a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques.

Nothing says "requires more force" quite like someone curling up into a ball.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 19, 2011, 10:49:32 PM

I liked this quote:

Quote
After reviewing the video, Mr. Kelly said he observed at least two cases of “active resistance” from protesters. In one instance, a woman pulls her arm back from an officer. In the second instance, a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques.

Nothing says "requires more force" quite like someone curling up into a ball.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrcn44twXQ1qdzocio1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 19, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
That's pretty standard, as the article states. The only way it's really out of line is if the Police are outside their legal bounds to quell the protest. If the University asked for them to be removed, then likely this is not the case.

Yeah, I think using violence to break up protests is standard practice in Syria too, actually.  No biggie.

And defying lawful orders is standard practice in anarchy. I also think its funny that you equate lethal force to a little pepper spray.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 19, 2011, 11:00:55 PM
That's pretty standard, as the article states. The only way it's really out of line is if the Police are outside their legal bounds to quell the protest. If the University asked for them to be removed, then likely this is not the case.

Yeah, I think using violence to break up protests is standard practice in Syria too, actually.  No biggie.

And defying lawful orders is standard practice in anarchy. I also think its funny that you equate lethal force to a little pepper spray.

I just said using force.

I would find it more funny that you equate protesting peacefully and sitting in a circle to anarchy.

Whether or not they defied orders to move (it is unclear why exactly peaceful protestors would need to move), I still don't see the point nor the need to walk up and down a line of people sitting in a row spraying them in the face with, for all intents and purposes, a chemical weapon (at least one person had burns from it on her and had to be treated).

Whether it is 'standard operating procedure' or not, it seems to be a very disproportionate and unethical response in what is supposed to be a beacon of democracy.

Just because a police officer does something does not automatically make it right (or wrong of course).  There was just a police officer in New York reprimanded for using pepper spray outside the department guidelines. 

If you're okay with a police officer doing that to a group of peaceful protestors, then fine.  I personally think that is disgusting, but to each their own.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 19, 2011, 11:15:49 PM
You said violence. Why would you use Syria as an example when there is a very clear difference between the type of force applied in this instance. I know what you were implying and it's not accurate.

Failure to comply with the law is a lot closer to anarchy than a couple of people getting pepper sprayed is to despotic rule.

Like the man said in the article, pepper spray is a compliance tool. The protestors were non compliant. It's use is authorized in this situation by most accepted use of force models. What you think about it from an ethical point of view is irrelevant to whether the police are justified or not.

As I said, the only question in this situation as to whether or not this is justified is if the police are acting within their lawful duty to remove the protestors.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 19, 2011, 11:23:49 PM
Like the man said in the article, pepper spray is a compliance tool.

Any act of violence on the part of police could be euphemistically referred to as a compliance tool. It's not a concrete term and trying to pass it off as such is pointless.

What you think about it from an ethical point of view is irrelevant to whether the police are justified or not.

No, see, we're members of society. And how police act actually does need to line up with our beliefs and standards. Potvin's opinion may not carry the day but the opinion of the public as to how the police act is absolutely relevant to what they're justified to do in response to a peaceful protest.

As I said, the only question in this situation as to whether or not this is justified is if the police are acting within their lawful duty to remove the protestors.

That's only true in using the narrowest possible sense of the word "justified". Potvin pretty clearly isn't referring to legal justification, something the state can grant their own agents, but whether or not it reflects the values of the citizens they're policing. Saying that such a thing isn't even a valid question to be asking is far more Syrian than just the use of pepper spray.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 19, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Actually Nik, it IS a concrete term under most use of force models. There are guidelines when this type of force can be applied and failure to adhere to those guidelines can have serious legal consequences.

Potvin or anyone else is certainly entitled to their opinion. I believe in the rule of law and that society cannot function without it. I believe that, even in a free society, that people cannot just do anything they want without consequences. I was explaining the legal standpoint to him and he attacked my beliefs. If he wants to discuss things that way I can do the same.

You can freely question the police actions but if you're going to attack them you should understand where they are coming from. Morally reprehensible? Maybe. Legally justified? Assuming they have legal authority to remove them, absolutely.

I think examining the legal authority is the first thing you need to do to decide if this is a morally justified incident. Do you think it's morally justified to break the law whenever it suits your purpose?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 20, 2011, 12:02:33 AM
Actually Nik, it IS a concrete term under most use of force models. There are guidelines when this type of force can be applied and failure to adhere to those guidelines can have serious legal consequences.

You're confusing the concept of a specific definition under certain guidelines with a concrete fact. Anything could be referred to as a compliance tool if its purpose could be compliance. That Pepper Spray is defined as such by certain groups doesn't give the term any more weight.

Potvin or anyone else is certainly entitled to their opinion. I believe in the rule of law and that society cannot function without it. I believe that, even in a free society, that people cannot just do anything they want without consequences. I was explaining the legal standpoint to him and he attacked my beliefs. If he wants to discuss things that way I can do the same.

If you're inclined to climb down off the cross for a second, Potvin "attacked" you by sarcastically dismissing your argumentum ad verecundiam. It's pretty clear that by saying it was "messed up" Potvin wasn't saying it violated some sort of specific law or regulation.

Saying that everyone's entitled to their opinion directly contradicts the idea, espoused by you, that the only question here as to justification is a legal one. You directly said that ethical or moral questions over this behaviour is an inappropriate question. But in a free society those are valid questions regardless of what the law says.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 20, 2011, 12:10:19 AM

And, really, isn't this just a perfect example of the OWS movement in a nutshell? People complaining that the system and it's laws are insufficient to the needs and beliefs of the people and the opposition claiming that change needs to come from that system and legal authority.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 20, 2011, 12:18:26 AM
Do you think it's morally justified to break the law whenever it suits your purpose?

I think that anyone who looked over the last hundred years of human history and said the primary question when determining moral justification is the law of the land would have some interesting moral beliefs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 20, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
So then you believe that that breaking the law is morally justified when it suits your purpose? That you have no responsibility to act appropriately with the freedoms you've been given?

Im trying to understand where you're coming from. I don't understand how a police service that is both morally justified in performing their duty and legally justified in using the amount of force they did is "messed" but a bunch of disobedient and unlawful protestors is completely normal and acceptable. It just seem like the argument is one that contains a double standard. Ignoring the unlawful actions d one group without questioning the morality of their position and condemning the lawful actions and questioning the morality of another.

A gun COULD be used as a compliance tool, but it would not be justified, legally or morally. You may thing that spraying a line of protestors is immoral, but pain compliance is an acceptable use of force in this situation, and pepper spray is one type of tool that can be used in this situation. Would the police have been more or less moral if they had used open hand tactics to remove the protestors? Had they just came in and started grappling with everyone, we'd probably be having the same conversation.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 20, 2011, 12:55:02 AM
So then you believe that that breaking the law is morally justified when it suits your purpose?

Of course it can be. Again, it would boggle my mind to think that anyone would think otherwise if they were vaguely cognizant of what had happened in modern society in the last 70 years.

I mean, unless you're the kind of person who thinks George Wallace sold out as he got older, what person wouldn't think that?

That you have no responsibility to act appropriately with the freedoms you've been given?

I think the people who kind of came up with the idea of personal freedom, your John Lockes, your JJ Rousseaus and so on, would recoil pretty handily from the idea that freedom has been "given" to me by some benevolent state. Likewise, the idea that "acting responsibly" in a society means following the laws regardless of what you think of them strikes me as a pretty basic perversion of our relationship with our governments.

The state is responsible to the people, not the other way around.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 20, 2011, 05:10:24 AM
:-( you guys are taking all the fun and lightheartedness out of the complaint thread *whine* /end teenager mode
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 20, 2011, 05:31:42 AM
You know who else was morally justified? Bernie Madoff.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 20, 2011, 05:40:34 AM
I would like to complain about the bird that ran into my helmet as I was biking home today.

Seriously bird, I am being eco-friendly!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on November 20, 2011, 06:50:13 AM
I just don't like it when teams score 7 goals instead of 8, I mean what's the deal with that?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on November 20, 2011, 09:49:37 AM
Just a simple question on these Occupy movements.  If I want to go down and camp in any park in a City would I also be permitted to do so or do I have to be "protesting" something?  And if ordered to leave by the authorities do I have to obey or can I disregard because I believe I am being peaceful and should be able to stay anywhere I want?  And can I do this in anyone's frontyard or is it limited to Govt owned space?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on November 20, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/Levant-Occupy/1283718795001/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on November 20, 2011, 11:11:22 PM
Just a simple question on these Occupy movements.  If I want to go down and camp in any park in a City would I also be permitted to do so or do I have to be "protesting" something?  And if ordered to leave by the authorities do I have to obey or can I disregard because I believe I am being peaceful and should be able to stay anywhere I want?  And can I do this in anyone's frontyard or is it limited to Govt owned space?

That doesn't sound like a question about the protests at all. Seems to me like there's an ulterior motive there somewhere.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on November 21, 2011, 02:46:59 PM
Is it ever annoying seeing the mug of the founder of Wikipedia on every Wiki page I open with his personal appeal.  We get it already.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on November 21, 2011, 04:46:17 PM
Is it ever annoying seeing the mug of the founder of Wikipedia on every Wiki page I open with his personal appeal.  We get it already.
We thought of doing the same thing here with a picture of Del Mundo but we knew it would drive too many people away.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: RobDM on November 21, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Is it ever annoying seeing the mug of the founder of Wikipedia on every Wiki page I open with his personal appeal.  We get it already.
We thought of doing the same thing here with a picture of Del Mundo but we knew it would drive too many people away.

No argument from me. Heck, the photo on my media pass is so bad that I'm not concerned about losing it - because if anyone ever found it, I don't think they'd lower themselves to attempt to resemble me.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on November 22, 2011, 10:56:37 AM
My complaint is that we got 2 dwarf Russian hamsters from a co-worker - 2 boys.  He said that they would be ok together in one cage, researched it on line and pretty much got the same answers but just to keep an eye on them.

Well Rupert (daughter's) has been the instigator and bully and is beating up on Bongo (son #2's).  Their fighting has gotten out of hand and when I checked more closely last night, it seems that Rupert has really beaten up Bongo and torn his one ear a little.  Sooooo, had to seperate these 2 last night and now have to go get another cage.

Ugh.  I knew I shouldn't have let my co-worker and my daughter talk me in to getting 2 of them!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 22, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
My complaint is that we got 2 dwarf Russian hamsters from a co-worker - 2 boys.  He said that they would be ok together in one cage, researched it on line and pretty much got the same answers but just to keep an eye on them.

Well Rupert (daughter's) has been the instigator and bully and is beating up on Bongo (son #2's).  Their fighting has gotten out of hand and when I checked more closely last night, it seems that Rupert has really beaten up Bongo and torn his one ear a little.  Sooooo, had to seperate these 2 last night and now have to go get another cage.

Ugh.  I knew I shouldn't have let my co-worker and my daughter talk me in to getting 2 of them!

You know you might be able to gain financially from having two "fighting" hamsters. Ever heard of bum fights?
;]
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on November 23, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
My complaint is that we got 2 dwarf Russian hamsters from a co-worker - 2 boys.  He said that they would be ok together in one cage, researched it on line and pretty much got the same answers but just to keep an eye on them.

Well Rupert (daughter's) has been the instigator and bully and is beating up on Bongo (son #2's).  Their fighting has gotten out of hand and when I checked more closely last night, it seems that Rupert has really beaten up Bongo and torn his one ear a little.  Sooooo, had to seperate these 2 last night and now have to go get another cage.

Ugh.  I knew I shouldn't have let my co-worker and my daughter talk me in to getting 2 of them!

You know you might be able to gain financially from having two "fighting" hamsters. Ever heard of bum fights?
;]

Ahhhh no and not sure that I want to.  LOL!

They are both in their own separate cages now and seem to be perfectly happy.  Little brats. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 24, 2011, 11:36:32 AM
Its 1:00 in the afternoon, we got 30 centimetres of snow dumped on us, and it was recently revealed that we had a 756 million dollar budget surplus.

CAN WE MAYBE GET OUR GODDAMN STREET PLOWED?   EVEN JUST A CURSORY PASS SO I DON'T HAVE TO SHOVEL 100 FEET DOWN MY STREET TO GET TO A MAIN ROAD, WHERE THE PLOW HAS GONE BY AND LEFT A FOUR FOOT SNOWBANK CUTTING US OFF AT THE INTERSECTION?   NOT ALL OF US HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS, DOUCHEBAGS.   WE HAVE TO GET TO WORK TOO, YOU KNOW?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 24, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
Its 1:00 in the afternoon, we got 30 centimetres of snow dumped on us, and it was recently revealed that we had a 756 million dollar budget surplus.

CAN WE MAYBE GET OUR GODDAMN STREET PLOWED?   EVEN JUST A CURSORY PASS SO I DON'T HAVE TO SHOVEL 100 FEET DOWN MY STREET TO GET TO A MAIN ROAD, WHERE THE PLOW HAS GONE BY AND LEFT A FOUR FOOT SNOWBANK CUTTING US OFF AT THE INTERSECTION?   NOT ALL OF US HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS, DOUCHEBAGS.   WE HAVE TO GET TO WORK TOO, YOU KNOW?

poor SP.....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 24, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
UPDATE: It's now 3:30, still nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on November 24, 2011, 02:03:10 PM
Grab a shovel you pansy
:p
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Newbury on November 24, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
Its 1:00 in the afternoon, we got 30 centimetres of snow dumped on us, and it was recently revealed that we had a 756 million dollar budget surplus.

CAN WE MAYBE GET OUR GODDAMN STREET PLOWED?   EVEN JUST A CURSORY PASS SO I DON'T HAVE TO SHOVEL 100 FEET DOWN MY STREET TO GET TO A MAIN ROAD, WHERE THE PLOW HAS GONE BY AND LEFT A FOUR FOOT SNOWBANK CUTTING US OFF AT THE INTERSECTION?   NOT ALL OF US HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS, DOUCHEBAGS.   WE HAVE TO GET TO WORK TOO, YOU KNOW?

So you have an excuse not to get to work?

I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: 13 on November 24, 2011, 03:06:24 PM
TSN radios Leafs lunch or whatever it's called. How can they expect Leaf fans to listen to a program that repeatedly uses Steve Freaken Simmons as an insider and source of Leafs news? All the guy does is repeat the obvious that's been previously discussed. They got rid of Pierre (or Pierre left, either way, I'm happy) now if the can get rid of Simmons and Landsberg. Landsberg has become unwatchable. His schmoozing every single guest is really getting old, and his chewing of imaginary food and his licking his lips constantly when his guests are speaking kinda grosses me out.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on November 24, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
(http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads19/11851313002077.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on November 24, 2011, 05:38:15 PM
OUR UAV IS ONLINE!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on November 25, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
(http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads19/11851313002077.jpg)

It took me a second to see all the peace signs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on November 25, 2011, 04:25:28 PM
Yeah, the juxtaposition of a child in pink peace attire with automatic weapons fire... Tigger 'unlikes' this...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: DK2 on November 26, 2011, 09:29:05 AM
Many months ago I bought the entire 6 seasons of LOST as it was on sale, and finally got
around to watching it, the very last disc with the final episode is cracked and won’t play.
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 >:(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on November 28, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
I just can't shake this fatigue today. It's really frustrating. There were things I wanted to do.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on November 28, 2011, 10:29:49 PM
I just can't shake this fatigue today. It's really frustrating. There were things I wanted to do.

I've felt that way for about 2 weeks now. I've tried to go for a run at least once a week. - Haven't. I've ripped my dog of by walking her half (or less) than I normally do. On my days off, I'm seldom out of bed before 10 AM.  The simplest of chores i.e. doing the laundry feel like the largest of tasks. I've used Movember as an excuse not to shave. WTF?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on November 28, 2011, 10:54:55 PM
On my days off, I'm seldom out of bed before 10 AM.

To me, this raises the first red flag. Are you getting the proper sleep? Why are you sleeping in until 10? have you tried going to bed earlier?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on November 29, 2011, 09:20:50 AM
On my days off, I'm seldom out of bed before 10 AM.

To me, this raises the first red flag. Are you getting the proper sleep? Why are you sleeping in until 10? have you tried going to bed earlier?

I get a minimum of 7 hours so that's not an issue. Part of it is I try to get as much time to myself as possible so part of that is staying up after everyone has crashed. What I should be doing I guess is getting to bed earlier.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on November 29, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
Internet terminology these days.  >:(

So and so is "boss", "bawse", or some other stupid variation of it.

Herp derp derp.  What in the world?! *facepalm*

And I won't even get into the acronyms people use these days.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 29, 2011, 02:47:55 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3BnP8E0QBgg/TaU4vDIzUaI/AAAAAAAAAB0/8ZKl0qE7ceg/s320/why%2Byou%2Bmad%2Bbro.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 29, 2011, 07:15:27 PM
Reading comments on news articles on Globe and Mail website (or really any major news website) is the most infuriating and depressing thing ever.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Andy on November 29, 2011, 08:24:42 PM
Reading comments on news articles on Globe and Mail website (or really any major news website) is the most infuriating and depressing thing ever.

Those comments are like a car crash- terrifying and horrible but almost impossible to turn away from. And really it's not just news websites, it's pretty much any comment section on any website.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 29, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
Reading comments on news articles on Globe and Mail website (or really any major news website) is the most infuriating and depressing thing ever.

Those comments are like a car crash- terrifying and horrible but almost impossible to turn away from. And really it's not just news websites, it's pretty much any comment section on any website.

Yeah - post a video of a cat playing piano on Youtube....watch as a Nazi/Jesus/race/political debate breaks out.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on November 29, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
Yeah - post a video of a cat playing piano on Youtube....watch as a Nazi/Jesus/race/political debate breaks out.

Ahh, yes, Godwin's Law.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on November 29, 2011, 10:23:41 PM
Internet terminology these days.  >:(

So and so is "boss", "bawse", or some other stupid variation of it.

Herp derp derp.  What in the world?! *facepalm*

And I won't even get into the acronyms people use these days.

WTF? AYKM? that's just sick! or dope! k? 10q4dat



 :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 29, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
It's not just internet terminology anymore.   I was at a party last weekend, and some broad said "LOL".   Like, out loud.   With her mouth.

We're not friends.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on November 29, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on November 29, 2011, 11:40:03 PM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".

First time I've seen it... I have to ask; What does it mean?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 29, 2011, 11:42:38 PM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".

First time I've seen it... I have to ask; What does it mean?

"Probably" for people too lazy to type two more letters.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on November 29, 2011, 11:45:13 PM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".

First time I've seen it... I have to ask; What does it mean?

"Probably" for people too lazy to type two more letters.

Holy Cow... We're shortening 8 letter words to 6 now? What's the point in that? Yeah, pretty darn stupid.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on November 29, 2011, 11:58:56 PM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".

First time I've seen it... I have to ask; What does it mean?

"Probably" for people too lazy to type two more letters.

Holy Cow... We're shortening 8 letter words to 6 now? What's the point in that? Yeah, pretty darn stupid.

Same with shortening 'Senators' to 'sens'!  Lazy lazy lazy.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on November 30, 2011, 12:00:33 AM
I hate that stupid jersey.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Gilmour the Great on November 30, 2011, 12:07:39 AM
Don't you hate pants?!?!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Dappleganger on November 30, 2011, 01:12:02 AM
The one bit of netspeak I can't stand is "prolly".

First time I've seen it... I have to ask; What does it mean?

"Probably" for people too lazy to type two more letters.

Holy Cow... We're shortening 8 letter words to 6 now? What's the point in that? Yeah, pretty darn stupid.

I'm sorry, but some of us don't know how to spell probably.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on December 01, 2011, 06:44:41 AM
ugh, booked springsteen-tickets yesterday to gothenburgh (2nd biggest city in Sweden)...and the problem is that they're expanding the arena he's playing on so it will be 75000 on each concert...and it's impossible to get any bus tickets or train tickets from Stockholm to Gothenburgh, and you could always fly, but then I have to give them the info of who's going with me, and I don't know, and if I change that it could cost as much as the damn tickets >:(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 01, 2011, 11:00:48 AM
Kind of pissed off right now, I am at training for 3 weeks and one thing we have to do is a Safety course but I took it a couple years ago apart of another trade, well I email my supervisor asking for my mark so I can pass it on and not do it here and he tells me he lost the records and suggests I just do it again.

Why waste time doing something I already have done and if there is no record of it, obviously I am not qualified for my other trade and shouldn't be doing it or taking standby for it, which is what I have to do when I get back for 2 weeks, I can refuse it now.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WAYNEINIONA on December 01, 2011, 05:17:02 PM
I just got a layoff notice for next Friday, the night of our Christmas party and only two weeks until Christmas. Merry ******* Christmas.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on December 01, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
I just got a layoff notice for next Friday, the night of our Christmas party and only two weeks until Christmas. Merry ******* Christmas.

oh no! Sorry to hear that. And yeah, it really sucks to do that just before the holidays  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on December 01, 2011, 06:42:00 PM
I just got a layoff notice for next Friday, the night of our Christmas party and only two weeks until Christmas. Merry ******* Christmas.

Sorry to hear... My best wishes to ya'.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on December 02, 2011, 01:36:42 PM
I just got a layoff notice for next Friday, the night of our Christmas party and only two weeks until Christmas. Merry ******* Christmas.

Jeez man, I'm very sorry to read this.  Hugs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zee on December 02, 2011, 01:43:00 PM
I just got a layoff notice for next Friday, the night of our Christmas party and only two weeks until Christmas. Merry ******* Christmas.

Sorry to hear, that is brutal.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on December 02, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
My mom got hit by a cyclist who was running a red light the other day. Lucky she didn't get seriously injured, and the jerk just took off without even helping her up.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on December 02, 2011, 05:54:31 PM
My mom got hit by a cyclist who was running a red light the other day. Lucky she didn't get seriously injured, and the jerk just took off without even helping her up.

but it was a cyclist, so we should overlook it I suppose..... as if ...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on December 03, 2011, 05:09:09 AM
My mom got hit by a cyclist who was running a red light the other day. Lucky she didn't get seriously injured, and the jerk just took off without even helping her up.

but it was a cyclist, so we should overlook it I suppose..... as if ...

Who says we should overlook cyclists running red lights?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on December 03, 2011, 06:28:00 AM
My mom got hit by a cyclist who was running a red light the other day. Lucky she didn't get seriously injured, and the jerk just took off without even helping her up.

but it was a cyclist, so we should overlook it I suppose..... as if ...

Who says we should overlook cyclists running red lights?

I've actually seen police officers handing out tickets to cyclists. It's rare but it does happen.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on December 03, 2011, 05:37:29 PM
Isn't hanging up outdoor Christmas lights politically / environmentally incorrect <yet>?

My parents are officially in their "screw everyone else" years...they were more concerned with how I put up the lights in their backyard as opposed to the front yard because "we don't care about the ones in the front we never see them".

Those complaints are now...OFFICIAL!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on December 03, 2011, 05:40:26 PM
The current government's blatant support that lying is ok.  Personal jet rides and spreading rumours about other MPs. Whatever happened to that ethics act. pff.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on December 03, 2011, 05:46:30 PM
The current government's blatant support that lying is ok.  Personal jet rides and spreading rumours about other MPs. Whatever happened to that ethics act. pff.

Don't they tax ethics now?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on December 04, 2011, 12:30:33 PM
The current government's blatant support that lying is ok.  Personal jet rides and spreading rumours about other MPs. Whatever happened to that ethics act. pff.

Don't they tax ethics now?

I would say you cant tax what you dont understand
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 05, 2011, 11:23:51 PM
The current government's blatant support that lying is ok.  Personal jet rides and spreading rumours about other MPs. Whatever happened to that ethics act. pff.

Don't they tax ethics now?

I would say you cant tax what you dont understand

Then the government shouldn't be taxing anything....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on December 08, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
After claiming, back in November, it couldn't provide an estimate, the U.S. air force now says it dumped some of the remains of at least 274 troops, the Washington Post reported Thursday (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/08/ashes-of-274-us-troops-dumped-in-landfill-report)

It's been in the news a bit but didn't see it here.

Makes me wonder, if that's what they do to their disposable heroes what else are they capable of?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on December 16, 2011, 10:07:57 AM
I haven't seen a Leafs game in a long time, i have been a really terrible fan this year, I was in training all of September which took up a lot of time, and from the end of November until today again for training.

The training is out of town too and at the end of January I goto Red River College for 10 weeks for Level 2 power electrician courses, so I didn't even bother with getting NHL center ice this season since I am out of town for 4.5 months this season :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on December 16, 2011, 02:58:22 PM

Sad to see that Christopher Hitchens died. I didn't always agree with his viewpoint but I always liked him as a writer. Cancer sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on December 16, 2011, 03:41:35 PM
That's really too bad he had a great mind, I didn't know he was sick.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WAYNEINIONA on December 16, 2011, 07:15:07 PM
I just got a call from someone representing the Federal PC Party. They were looking for cash donation of up to $400 to rally the peoples support of the long gun registration being cancelled. I informed the caller that I was unemployed. Her reply was " so could you give us at least $200 then". My reply was ,it's 10 days till Christmas, I'm unemployed and you think I should give you $200. CLICK.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on December 16, 2011, 07:22:58 PM
FedEx are jerks.

I ordered an item of clothing as a christmas gift for my wife. It arrived in my office a few weeks ago and i signed for it. I was not told anything.

Today, I get an invoice for $18 for duty fees in the mail. I'm not quite sure that's fair. Had i been told there was duty fees, I might have refused as it's not an expensive item.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on December 16, 2011, 09:35:01 PM
FedEx are jerks.

I ordered an item of clothing as a christmas gift for my wife. It arrived in my office a few weeks ago and i signed for it. I was not told anything.

Today, I get an invoice for $18 for duty fees in the mail. I'm not quite sure that's fair. Had i been told there was duty fees, I might have refused as it's not an expensive item.

That's interesting. Was the bill from FedEx or Canada Customs? Last time I ordered something and had to pay duty on it, the shipper wanted to collect it on delivery.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on December 16, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
FedEx are jerks.

I ordered an item of clothing as a christmas gift for my wife. It arrived in my office a few weeks ago and i signed for it. I was not told anything.

Today, I get an invoice for $18 for duty fees in the mail. I'm not quite sure that's fair. Had i been told there was duty fees, I might have refused as it's not an expensive item.

That's interesting. Was the bill from FedEx or Canada Customs? Last time I ordered something and had to pay duty on it, the shipper wanted to collect it on delivery.

I've had this happen before. I received the notification after I collected the package and just never paid the duty. Never heard anything since and that was a few years ago now. Usually they collect before you get the package.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on December 17, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
That's interesting. Was the bill from FedEx or Canada Customs? Last time I ordered something and had to pay duty on it, the shipper wanted to collect it on delivery.

Same here, I've paid duty fees on delivery a number of times. The bill was from FedEx.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on December 18, 2011, 05:43:18 AM
Peter Forsberg. He admitted that Sweden lost intentionally against Slovakia in 2006 when we won the olympics. And according to him there was no such orders from the coaching staff. But he said that it would be easier than playing Russia or Canada in the quarter finals. I knew it >:( I remember that I was pissed about how they played and said that they did it intentionally.  >:( And Forsberg says that they talked about it within the group. I think that they should be punished for this. Give the gold to Finland instead ???
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on December 25, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
"Shuffle" means play the songs randomly, not cycle through the same 30 or so songs over and over again.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on December 26, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
"Shuffle" means play the songs randomly, not cycle through the same 30 or so songs over and over again.

I always wondered about that.

Here's the best explanation I found: http://ipod.about.com/od/advanceditunesuse/a/itunes-random.htm
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on January 01, 2012, 04:22:18 PM

Dear people of the world,

The definition of insanity is as follows:

1: a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
2: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility

The definition of insanity is not "doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results". That's a quote. It's sometimes incorrectly attributed to Albert Einstein but he didn't say that. According to a quick internet search, you're quoting something from Narcotics Anonymous.

That quote, while it may apply to one degree or another to drug addicts, doesn't really even make all that much sense. If I were to, say, flip a coin or spin a roulette wheel repeatedly, different results would be expected pretty rationally. Also, things improve via repetition. I learned how to play guitar by repeating the same thing over and over and, eventually, got better results.

Stop abusing the definition of definition.

Sincerely,

Nik

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on January 01, 2012, 05:01:55 PM
That quote, while it may apply to one degree or another to drug addicts, doesn't really even make all that much sense. If I were to, say, flip a coin or spin a roulette wheel repeatedly, different results would be expected pretty rationally. Also, things improve via repetition. I learned how to play guitar by repeating the same thing over and over and, eventually, got better results.

I hear your complaint loud and clear; consider it validated. However, this quoted paragraph is a little goofy. I've never heard anyone use that statement to describe things such as flipping a coin (a mechanical movement that has a very predictable and easily understood outcome) or improving skills such as playing a guitar. In terms of repetition begetting improvement, well that's called practice and really doesn't apply to the situations in which most people use that phrase.

I've only heard it used to suggest trying a different approach to solving a problem or for changing the outcome of something that's within their control.

While I appreciate your pedantic approach to word usage (I do believe it's admirable and am not a fan of the decline of the english language,) I'm not sure the last examples relate to the phrase (whether used properly or not.)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on January 01, 2012, 05:16:41 PM
I hear your complaint loud and clear; consider it validated. However, this quoted paragraph is a little goofy. I've never heard anyone use that statement to describe things such as flipping a coin (a mechanical movement that has a very predictable and easily understood outcome) or improving skills such as playing a guitar. In terms of repetition begetting improvement, well that's called practice and really doesn't apply to the situations in which most people use that phrase.

I've only heard it used to suggest trying a different approach to solving a problem or for changing the outcome of something that's within their control.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if it was in something for drug users the idea trying to come across is that people need to change their behavioral patterns if they're looking to make drastic changes in their life, like getting off drugs. That seems like a fair enough point and it's one that's probably applicable in a number of situations.

But, as I say, what bothers me there is the idea that such a loose phrase could be the "definition" of insanity when there are such obvious and notable exceptions. I know people don't use the phrase to apply to those examples. Those examples are there to show the problems with the phrase. The semantic difference between repetition and practice in this case seems pretty slight.  Yes, it's fair enough to make the same point that they're making in the NA handbook that it can make sense to change your approach if your approach isn't working but there are other ways to say that.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on January 01, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
... Yes, it's fair enough to make the same point that they're making in the NA handbook that it can make sense to change your approach if your approach isn't working but there are other ways to say that.

There is, like saying "it can make sense to change your approach if your approach isn't working."  :) But it's not as cool, because Newton didn't say that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on January 07, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 07, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

lol Maybe they are Ukrainian? It is Ukrainian Christmas today! :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on January 07, 2012, 02:11:05 PM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

lol Maybe they are Ukrainian? It is Ukrainian Christmas today! :)

Lol. If you are Ukrainian I accept this..... And Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on January 07, 2012, 02:18:45 PM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

lol - that's awesome
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 07, 2012, 08:43:47 PM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

lol Maybe they are Ukrainian? It is Ukrainian Christmas today! :)

Lol. If you are Ukrainian I accept this..... And Merry Christmas.
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To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

lol Maybe they are Ukrainian? It is Ukrainian Christmas today! :)

Lol. If you are Ukrainian I accept this..... And Merry Christmas.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: MonikaM on January 07, 2012, 10:17:27 PM
Our decorations don't go up until Dec. 24 (aside from the ones displayed year round) so I will not be chucking them aside after two weeks.

Now, where can I buy some car antlers?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on January 08, 2012, 02:06:32 AM
Our decorations don't go up until Dec. 24 (aside from the ones displayed year round) so I will not be chucking them aside after two weeks.

Now, where can I buy some car antlers?


You better be Ukranian.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Wendel's Fist on January 08, 2012, 02:14:13 AM
To everyone with the reindeer antlers still on their cars:

It's the second week of January, take them of your car and pack them up with the rest of your Christmas crap till next year.

When you can scientifically explain to me how conscious energy just happens on its own, THEN I'll take the antlers off my car.

SATAN!!!

You know I'm kidding Mr. Odin.

I hate those antler things too.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on January 08, 2012, 06:47:29 AM
Our decorations don't go up until Dec. 24 (aside from the ones displayed year round) so I will not be chucking them aside after two weeks.

Now, where can I buy some car antlers?


Next pair I see I'll grab for you.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on January 09, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
So, I picked up a pair of Bauer Supreme One60s this boxing week to replace my old, $100 no-name deteriorating bricks that i used to call skates. I've been on the ice a few times now (one league game, one afternoon shinny and two free-skates) and it looks like the toe cap is already beginning to separate from the skate. Its only about 2mm now, but if that's the case after only four times out, I'm gonna look into getting them replaced under warranty before it becomes a real problem.

Just as I was breaking them in too.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stronger Than All on January 09, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
I saw the antlers on a car this morning.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: MonikaM on January 09, 2012, 07:14:01 PM
You better be Ukranian.

Nope, although close. I just love Christmas, plus there's a fairly sappy story as to why the tree stays up until the end of February/March break.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 09, 2012, 07:26:33 PM
You better be Ukranian.

Nope, although close. I just love Christmas, plus there's a fairly sappy story as to why the tree stays up until the end of February/March break.

YIKES!

that long is a fire hazard! I used to keep it up until January 8th because of Ukrainian Christmas, but by about Dec 28th, it's looking too much like Charlie Brown's tree and I'm afraid of the fire hazard it becomes once there are more (dry) needles on the carpet around the tree than actually still on it.


I love Christmas too, every year I seem to decorate more and more... THis year, I bought a set of those antlers for the dog...but he wouldn't stand for it :-(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on January 11, 2012, 11:32:05 AM
I saw the antlers on a car this morning.  :P

I saw a pair on a vehicle yesterday as well!  :o  That's just a bit crazy.

Hey, I still have my tree up.  It's fake though but my 3 yr old is having a very very hard time letting go.  He keeps saying "no mommy, don't take down my Christmas tree, pleaseeeeeee!"  How the heck can I say no to that?  Anyways, I'm gonna do it this weekend and probably have a balling 3 yr old on my hands.

My other complaint is refs in girl's hockey.  Hello!  There is no hitting from behind period and no body checking.  If you are not going to call it consistently, then the girl's are going to keep doing it.  Sorry, my daughter got his from behind last night at a game, on the boards protecting the puck and just drove to the ice.  Her shoulder is pretty darn sore today and I'm just a little irritated that it was only a 2 min "roughing" penalty and everyone, including parents on the other team said it should have been 5 at the very least.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on January 11, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
I ordered two breakfast sandwiches from Tim Hortons this morning. One sausage, one bacon. I got the sausage one with no cheese, and the other one had NOTHING in it. It was literally just two biscuits. How does that even happen? Then, at lunch I went to Subway and ordered a turkey sub with bacon, untoasted with no cheese. The sub had no bacon on it, it was toasted and had cheese.

It's not like I'm asking them to assemble an F-18. Why is it so hard to get an order the way I order it?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on January 11, 2012, 06:19:38 PM
Dammit, Dell.   I've posted a few times praising your customer support, but you're losing me in a big way.

I sent my computer away to get fixed two weeks ago.   Instead of giving it back to me, they sent it to may parents house in Ottawa.   Actually, not even my parents house, it went to a neighbour three houses down who luckily recognized my name and dropped it off at my house.

I spent four hours on the phone last week talking to three agents and a supervisor, finally convincing them to send Fed Ex to my house to pick it up and send it to me.   They said it would be picked up in 2-3 days, it has now been 4 business days, and nothing.

I've now been on the phone with them for an hour and a half, the vast majority of it sitting on hold.

I'm a computer science major with no computer.   Please just give me my damn computer back!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on January 11, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
I ordered two breakfast sandwiches from Tim Hortons this morning. One sausage, one bacon. I got the sausage one with no cheese, and the other one had NOTHING in it. It was literally just two biscuits. How does that even happen? Then, at lunch I went to Subway and ordered a turkey sub with bacon, untoasted with no cheese. The sub had no bacon on it, it was toasted and had cheese.

It's not like I'm asking them to assemble an F-18. Why is it so hard to get an order the way I order it?

I can understand being upset about the Tim Hortons thing, but at Subway they make the sandwich right in front of you? Why didn't you stop him from putting it in the toaster...or adding cheese...or ask where the f your bacon was? LOL
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on January 11, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
I ordered two breakfast sandwiches from Tim Hortons this morning. One sausage, one bacon. I got the sausage one with no cheese, and the other one had NOTHING in it. It was literally just two biscuits. How does that even happen? Then, at lunch I went to Subway and ordered a turkey sub with bacon, untoasted with no cheese. The sub had no bacon on it, it was toasted and had cheese.

It's not like I'm asking them to assemble an F-18. Why is it so hard to get an order the way I order it?

I can understand being upset about the Tim Hortons thing, but at Subway they make the sandwich right in front of you? Why didn't you stop him from putting it in the toaster...or adding cheese...or ask where the f your bacon was? LOL

Oh I could have, but that wasn't really the point of the story. It's a simple task to perform and they couldn't get it right without me holding their hand.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on January 13, 2012, 06:38:22 PM
I'm pretty sure my new glasses are making me sick. I got two pairs and one of them makes me feel all screwy.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on January 14, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
I'm pretty sure my new glasses are making me sick. I got two pairs and one of them makes me feel all screwy.

Are you sure its not the booze?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on January 14, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zee on January 14, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

That sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on January 14, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Two words - proxy server
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on January 14, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Two words - proxy server

I'm not at all tech savvy.  :-\  :-[
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on January 14, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Two words - proxy server

I'm not at all tech savvy.  :-\  :-[

Neither am - its pretty straightforward....well it was the last time I needed to use one.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on January 14, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Two words - proxy server

I'm not at all tech savvy.  :-\  :-[

Neither am - its pretty straightforward....well it was the last time I needed to use one.

Okay, assuming it's an easy thing to explain and set-up, when you have the time (doesn't have to be today, this week or any time soon at all) can you PM me with the low down or a link to where I might get the low down? If it's at all a complicated of a thing for either me to do or you to explain how to do, no worries... don't bother.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on January 14, 2012, 03:49:17 PM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Two words - proxy server

I'm not at all tech savvy.  :-\  :-[

Neither am - its pretty straightforward....well it was the last time I needed to use one.

Okay, assuming it's an easy thing to explain and set-up, when you have the time (doesn't have to be today, this week or any time soon at all) can you PM me with the low down or a link to where I might get the low down? If it's at all a complicated of a thing for either me to do or you to explain how to do, no worries... don't bother.

Sure - check your PMs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on January 15, 2012, 12:28:16 AM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Please tell me you don't work for Rogers. I spent almost 1/2 of my shift tonight sitting waiting for a call. Can only read so much work related stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on January 15, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
As early as next month, EVERTHING not work related including gmail, facebook and this site is to be firewalled... Nice knowing you, folks...  :(

Please tell me you don't work for Rogers. I spent almost 1/2 of my shift tonight sitting waiting for a call. Can only read so much work related stuff.

Nope. I appreciate my company's method to their madness, wanting to protect itself from malware and viruses and such but I'm certain the internet generally keeps employees at their post during down time. I'd be most interested in a study on productivity of office employees with internet access vs. employees without. Anyway, I guess it'll be like the old days before we used the internet... Longer lunches. Longer breaks... Almost always off site. Maybe we'll play cards. Scrabble was a good one. Ewww, we're going to have to talk to each other a lot more too.       
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on January 15, 2012, 11:55:44 AM
Ewww, we're going to have to talk to each other a lot more too.     

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/286/c/d/oh_noooo_lol_by_nicksnack-d30p7mq.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on January 15, 2012, 05:03:25 PM
I ordered two breakfast sandwiches from Tim Hortons this morning. One sausage, one bacon. I got the sausage one with no cheese, and the other one had NOTHING in it. It was literally just two biscuits. How does that even happen? Then, at lunch I went to Subway and ordered a turkey sub with bacon, untoasted with no cheese. The sub had no bacon on it, it was toasted and had cheese.

It's not like I'm asking them to assemble an F-18. Why is it so hard to get an order the way I order it?

I can understand being upset about the Tim Hortons thing, but at Subway they make the sandwich right in front of you? Why didn't you stop him from putting it in the toaster...or adding cheese...or ask where the f your bacon was? LOL

Oh I could have, but that wasn't really the point of the story. It's a simple task to perform and they couldn't get it right without me holding their hand.

Just another "hey kids, stay in school moment"
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on January 15, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
I ordered two breakfast sandwiches from Tim Hortons this morning. One sausage, one bacon. I got the sausage one with no cheese, and the other one had NOTHING in it. It was literally just two biscuits. How does that even happen? Then, at lunch I went to Subway and ordered a turkey sub with bacon, untoasted with no cheese. The sub had no bacon on it, it was toasted and had cheese.

It's not like I'm asking them to assemble an F-18. Why is it so hard to get an order the way I order it?

I can understand being upset about the Tim Hortons thing, but at Subway they make the sandwich right in front of you? Why didn't you stop him from putting it in the toaster...or adding cheese...or ask where the f your bacon was? LOL

Oh I could have, but that wasn't really the point of the story. It's a simple task to perform and they couldn't get it right without me holding their hand.

Just another "hey kids, stay in school moment"

That particular Subway is actually located in the school haha
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on January 16, 2012, 05:01:25 PM
The prices for vacations are high, even for an all inclusive at supposedly cheap Cuban destinations. Not happy. Not happy at all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: iwas11in67 on January 16, 2012, 05:44:58 PM
The prices for vacations are high, even for an all inclusive at supposedly cheap Cuban destinations. Not happy. Not happy at all.

If you ever make it to Cuba, can you pick me up a box of Cohiba Behike 52's.

Thanks in advance.

PS when do you want to go? I hear that due to no winter up here(last 3 days notwithstanding) that some decent sell offs should be happening soon.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on January 16, 2012, 05:47:51 PM
The prices for vacations are high, even for an all inclusive at supposedly cheap Cuban destinations. Not happy. Not happy at all.

If you ever make it to Cuba, can you pick me up a box of Cohiba Behike 52's.

Thanks in advance.

PS when do you want to go? I hear that due to no winter up here(last 3 days notwithstanding) that some decent sell offs should be happening soon.

Hoping for Feb 25 flight, 1 week all incl. in Cuba.

*Edit: Actually, thats a good idea. How cheap are Cigars over there? And how would I know if they're legit Cohibas? :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: iwas11in67 on January 16, 2012, 05:58:15 PM
The prices for vacations are high, even for an all inclusive at supposedly cheap Cuban destinations. Not happy. Not happy at all.

If you ever make it to Cuba, can you pick me up a box of Cohiba Behike 52's.

Thanks in advance.

PS when do you want to go? I hear that due to no winter up here(last 3 days notwithstanding) that some decent sell offs should be happening soon.

Hoping for Feb 25 flight, 1 week all incl. in Cuba.

*Edit: Actually, thats a good idea. How cheap are Cigars over there? And how would I know if they're legit Cohibas? :P

they are expensive even if you can find them up here. The Cohiba Behike 56's are $106 each at a mid range shop up here. The 52's are around $20 each in Cuba and the 56's are $26 (as of last April). They only come in 10 packs and here is a link which has some youtube videos that helps spot the fakes.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/15999
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on January 17, 2012, 06:10:26 AM
Ewww, we're going to have to talk to each other a lot more too.     

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/286/c/d/oh_noooo_lol_by_nicksnack-d30p7mq.jpg)

haha!...

(just seeing this now)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on January 18, 2012, 02:04:08 PM
I was craving a Whopper today, but went to the Burger King closer to my place (1st visit) instead of a location that I've been too before. Big mistake. I asked for no onions, extra pickles, and easy on the mayo. They managed to screw it up twice. 1st one had onions and the 2nd time had no mayo. Top it off with some of the slowest service I've ever seen at a BK (10+ minutes from walking in the door until I got my order with only 3 people ahead of me), means I won't be going back to that location for a while.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on January 18, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
So I go to run to the store about half an hour ago, get in, reverse out of the driveway, and my back right tire won't spin. FML. I keep saying - next time something goes wrong with this car, its gone...then I keep fixing it..ugh
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on January 20, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
I was craving a Whopper today, but went to the Burger King closer to my place (1st visit) instead of a location that I've been too before. Big mistake. I asked for no onions, extra pickles, and easy on the mayo. They managed to screw it up twice. 1st one had onions and the 2nd time had no mayo. Top it off with some of the slowest service I've ever seen at a BK (10+ minutes from walking in the door until I got my order with only 3 people ahead of me), means I won't be going back to that location for a while.

Victoria Street location?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stronger Than All on January 20, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
I was craving a Whopper today, but went to the Burger King closer to my place (1st visit) instead of a location that I've been too before. Big mistake. I asked for no onions, extra pickles, and easy on the mayo. They managed to screw it up twice. 1st one had onions and the 2nd time had no mayo. Top it off with some of the slowest service I've ever seen at a BK (10+ minutes from walking in the door until I got my order with only 3 people ahead of me), means I won't be going back to that location for a while.

Victoria Street location?

Omg Rick that is hilarious.  That place is criminal.
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sudafederov on January 21, 2012, 12:19:16 AM
Be thankful for your healthcare folks.

No conditions to speak of, but Blue Shield of California is raising my health care premium to $500 / month.

They went straight to the top of my list du merde.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on January 21, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
I was craving a Whopper today, but went to the Burger King closer to my place (1st visit) instead of a location that I've been too before. Big mistake. I asked for no onions, extra pickles, and easy on the mayo. They managed to screw it up twice. 1st one had onions and the 2nd time had no mayo. Top it off with some of the slowest service I've ever seen at a BK (10+ minutes from walking in the door until I got my order with only 3 people ahead of me), means I won't be going back to that location for a while.

Victoria Street location?

Yup. Victoria North and Bruce. Next time I'll be going back to the new one University or Highland.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 26, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
50% chance the plane will land due to the weather, gah! I hope it lands, I have plans to make dinner for the gf tonight in Winnipeg!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on January 26, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
50% chance the plane will land due to the weather, gah! I hope it lands, I have plans to make dinner for the gf tonight in Winnipeg!

? and if it doesn't land due to weather? Wtf are they going to do, fly forever? Did you mean you might be diverted elsewhere? Any plane has to land eventually don't it?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on January 26, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
The route is Wpg to Thompson To Gillam to Wpg, they will attempt to land once or twice and then just head to Winnipeg. There is a 4pm flight as well, but the weather is supposed to get worse this afternoon :/

The ceiling is currently 500ft and visibility is 1.6kms, the min is apparently 1.6km and 400 ft, just need the current conditions to last another 20 mins so they can land and then they will eventually have to take off lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 02, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
Went to an interview today, for a job that I really wanted. Of course my darn social phobia took an active role, and I got really really nervous, more than usual. And part of the interview was in Swedish and part of it in English. I felt like some overrun roadkill or something, that walked in there. And im starting to feel like a complete screwup too, because I get called to interviews a lot now, which should be a good thing, but I always find a way to screw up. So now im always trying to fight thoughts like "how many chances do you really need?", "lots of people could get hired after their first interview, and you just keep on screwing up time after time".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: BMan on February 02, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
Went to an interview today, for a job that I really wanted. Of course my darn social phobia took an active role, and I got really really nervous, more than usual. And part of the interview was in Swedish and part of it in English. I felt like some overrun roadkill or something, that walked in there. And im starting to feel like a complete screwup too, because I get called to interviews a lot now, which should be a good thing, but I always find a way to screw up. So now im always trying to fight thoughts like "how many chances do you really need?", "lots of people could get hired after their first interview, and you just keep on screwing up time after time".

Stefan, take this advice..if you don't get this job,the next interview walk in like you don't care if you get the job or not..that way you haven't any pressure on yourself.

Secondly, at the end of the day, you have your integrity. Nobody can take that away from you. If they don't think you are good enough to hire, it's their loss. Adversity will only make you stronger.  I know adversity won't pay the bills but something will finally happen and you'll be more then grateful you didn't get the other jobs. Would you rather work for a Habs fan or a Leafs fan?

Just take some deep breaths bud. You are not alone in the world.

*thumbs up*
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 03, 2012, 02:30:36 PM
Went to an interview today, for a job that I really wanted. Of course my darn social phobia took an active role, and I got really really nervous, more than usual. And part of the interview was in Swedish and part of it in English. I felt like some overrun roadkill or something, that walked in there. And im starting to feel like a complete screwup too, because I get called to interviews a lot now, which should be a good thing, but I always find a way to screw up. So now im always trying to fight thoughts like "how many chances do you really need?", "lots of people could get hired after their first interview, and you just keep on screwing up time after time".

Stefan, take this advice..if you don't get this job,the next interview walk in like you don't care if you get the job or not..that way you haven't any pressure on yourself.

Secondly, at the end of the day, you have your integrity. Nobody can take that away from you. If they don't think you are good enough to hire, it's their loss. Adversity will only make you stronger.  I know adversity won't pay the bills but something will finally happen and you'll be more then grateful you didn't get the other jobs. Would you rather work for a Habs fan or a Leafs fan?

Just take some deep breaths bud. You are not alone in the world.

*thumbs up*
That's actually the exact tactics I had when writing an exam at the university. And it usually worked out better, because my mind was more "free". I think about it a lot, but for some reason I have a hard time getting that to work in job interviews. I worry too much before it all.

Yes adversity usually makes you stronger, but I also feel the stress of having my aid lowered even more. And on monday I have an interview in english, I haven't had that before, so we shall see how it goes :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on February 04, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
My cat is a little bastard. She was keeping me up all night with her playing with random things in the house so I closed my room door. She just kept on meowing to be let in, so I let her in, but she kept playing with things. I kicked her out again but whined and whined again. I kept telling her "No!" when she would do that but it wasn't sinking into her thick skull, so I grabbed her by the scruff to give her a time out in another room and she sunk her teeth into my wrist.

I received this puncture wound and its swollen since yesterday. I shouldn't have taken my sweet ass time to clean it and put ointment on it. Bah!

PO'd right now.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on February 04, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
My cat is a little bastard. She was keeping me up all night with her playing with random things in the house so I closed my room door. She just kept on meowing to be let in, so I let her in, but she kept playing with things. I kicked her out again but whined and whined again. I kept telling her "No!" when she would do that but it wasn't sinking into her thick skull, so I grabbed her by the scruff to give her a time out in another room and she sunk her teeth into my wrist.

I received this puncture wound and its swollen since yesterday. I shouldn't have taken my sweet ass time to clean it and put ointment on it. Bah!

PO'd right now.

Some crazy pussy kept me up all night & I got the bite marks to prove it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 04, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
My cat is a little bastard. She was keeping me up all night with her playing with random things in the house so I closed my room door. She just kept on meowing to be let in, so I let her in, but she kept playing with things. I kicked her out again but whined and whined again. I kept telling her "No!" when she would do that but it wasn't sinking into her thick skull, so I grabbed her by the scruff to give her a time out in another room and she sunk her teeth into my wrist.

I received this puncture wound and its swollen since yesterday. I shouldn't have taken my sweet ass time to clean it and put ointment on it. Bah!

PO'd right now.

Some crazy pussy kept me up all night & I got the bite marks to prove it.
You shouldn't hang out with Alfie.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: riff raff on February 04, 2012, 12:41:36 PM
My cat is a little bastard. She was keeping me up all night with her playing with random things in the house so I closed my room door. She just kept on meowing to be let in, so I let her in, but she kept playing with things. I kicked her out again but whined and whined again. I kept telling her "No!" when she would do that but it wasn't sinking into her thick skull, so I grabbed her by the scruff to give her a time out in another room and she sunk her teeth into my wrist.

I received this puncture wound and its swollen since yesterday. I shouldn't have taken my sweet ass time to clean it and put ointment on it. Bah!

PO'd right now.

A few years ago, I was bitten by a cat and it swelled up badly. When I went to my doctor, he became quite upset that I didn't come in sooner as the consequences could be dire.

Go see a doctor.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 06, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
PAPER CUT!

 >:(

EDIT: I'm gonna invent paper cut-proof paper.   I'll be a millionaire.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on February 06, 2012, 12:42:11 PM
My cat is a little bastard. She was keeping me up all night with her playing with random things in the house so I closed my room door. She just kept on meowing to be let in, so I let her in, but she kept playing with things. I kicked her out again but whined and whined again. I kept telling her "No!" when she would do that but it wasn't sinking into her thick skull, so I grabbed her by the scruff to give her a time out in another room and she sunk her teeth into my wrist.

I received this puncture wound and its swollen since yesterday. I shouldn't have taken my sweet ass time to clean it and put ointment on it. Bah!

PO'd right now.

A few years ago, I was bitten by a cat and it swelled up badly. When I went to my doctor, he became quite upset that I didn't come in sooner as the consequences could be dire.

Go see a doctor.

I tried going to a bunch of walk in clinics to get my bite checked out but every single place I went to was bloody closed. It's a wasteland for clinics between Royal York/Bloor all the way to Christie/Bloor. I spent two hours hopping on and off the subway stopping by clinics that are closed down.

Went to emerg later that night because my arms was getting itchy, but I think it was just extra sensitive due to the bite (better safe than sorry I guess?). I went to St. Joseph's Hospital and I swear it was like walking into an episode of Scrubs (while entertaining probably not a good thing).

Anyway, the doc looked at me, said the bite was ok, the Cat must be pretty clean since usually they see bites balloon pretty quickly whereas mine wasn't too bad. My cat's pretty clean, she has all her shots and whatnot, and is an indoor cat. Anyway, he prescribed me some anti-biotics and sent me on my way.

I haven't picked them up yet though. It doesn't look to be getting worse and the pain is starting to go away.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: MonikaM on February 06, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
PAPER CUT!

 >:(


There are no cuts on Rob ford's watch; you have a paper efficiency, not a cut.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on February 06, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
My cat is a little bastard.

Yeah, cats rarely listen unless they want to, even then...

Gotsta be careful with cat scratch fever! ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on February 06, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
Why is the fact that it is cold in Europe during winter a news story?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on February 07, 2012, 03:01:51 PM
I am sitting outside the office manager's office who has been laminating for the last 4 hours and all I've been inhaling in that time is burning plastic.

I have a headache.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 07, 2012, 03:07:23 PM
Why is the fact that it is cold in Europe during winter a news story?
It's been snow in places where there hasn't been snow in for like ages. And a lot of people have died, especially in countries that are not used to the cold. We've had like up to -40 C in some places in Sweden, but we are used to it. But they had snow in Rome, and big problems in Romania, Ukraine etc.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on February 07, 2012, 03:14:45 PM
I really haven't read much about what's happening over there but I was talking to an Italian colleague of mine last night who has ties back home and apparently their government is refusing to but equipment to remove all the snow and people are going ape**** over it. I guess they've said "Why buy all that stuff to use it once?" - Which I suppose makes sense but it seems like the government are taking the same approach to their country as some people do with their driveways - Eff it... Wait till spring.  8)   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on February 07, 2012, 03:22:05 PM
I really haven't read much about what's happening over there but I was talking to an Italian colleague of mine last night who has ties back home and apparently their government is refusing to but equipment to remove all the snow and people are going ape**** over it. I guess they've said "Why buy all that stuff to use it once?" - Which I suppose makes sense but it seems like the government are taking the same approach to their country as some people do with their driveways - Eff it... Wait till spring.  8)

Makes no sense at all for them to spend a dime doing anything other than maybe buying some shovels to clean off some sidewalks, at best.   If they bought equipment the snow would probably be gone by the time it showed up.  Crazy people... just enjoy a few days off from work!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on February 07, 2012, 05:05:56 PM
I really haven't read much about what's happening over there but I was talking to an Italian colleague of mine last night who has ties back home and apparently their government is refusing to but equipment to remove all the snow and people are going ape**** over it. I guess they've said "Why buy all that stuff to use it once?" - Which I suppose makes sense but it seems like the government are taking the same approach to their country as some people do with their driveways - Eff it... Wait till spring.  8)

Makes no sense at all for them to spend a dime doing anything other than maybe buying some shovels to clean off some sidewalks, at best.   If they bought equipment the snow would probably be gone by the time it showed up.  Crazy people... just enjoy a few days off from work!

Nevermind that they can't afford to be spending money in the first place, especially on equipment that, like Corn Flake said, probably won't show up until the snow is gone, and only use it once. If there's something that Italy shouldn't spend its money on this is it!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 09, 2012, 02:21:29 PM
Crap, she didn't move to Stockholm..
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 09, 2012, 07:43:19 PM
Why do you need a prescription to get antibiotics?   I'm not asking for morphine or oxy, I just want some damn penicillin.   I know what's wrong with me, why do I have to waste my time and the doctor's time by making an appt or going to the ER?

This is bulldooie.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on February 10, 2012, 08:40:54 AM
Why do you need a prescription to get antibiotics?   I'm not asking for morphine or oxy, I just want some damn penicillin.   I know what's wrong with me, why do I have to waste my time and the doctor's time by making an appt or going to the ER?

This is bulldooie.

So they can charge OHIP
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on February 10, 2012, 12:24:58 PM
Why do you need a prescription to get antibiotics?   I'm not asking for morphine or oxy, I just want some damn penicillin.   I know what's wrong with me, why do I have to waste my time and the doctor's time by making an appt or going to the ER?

This is bulldooie.

So they can charge OHIP

Zakkly.... thats how the system works
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on February 10, 2012, 12:38:12 PM
Why do you need a prescription to get antibiotics?   I'm not asking for morphine or oxy, I just want some damn penicillin.   I know what's wrong with me, why do I have to waste my time and the doctor's time by making an appt or going to the ER?

This is bulldooie.

So they can charge OHIP

Partly that, and partly because different antibiotics are used for different types of infections, and, not being a doctor, you (and I, for that matter) don't know which you really need or even you even have an infection at all and not just a virus (depending on the situation, of course).
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zid on February 10, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Why do you need a prescription to get antibiotics?   I'm not asking for morphine or oxy, I just want some damn penicillin.   I know what's wrong with me, why do I have to waste my time and the doctor's time by making an appt or going to the ER?

This is bulldooie.

So they can charge OHIP

Partly that, and partly because different antibiotics are used for different types of infections, and, not being a doctor, you (and I, for that matter) don't know which you really need or even you even have an infection at all and not just a virus (depending on the situation, of course).

Nothing a reputable medical web site won't tell you in 5 seconds.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on February 10, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Nothing a reputable medical web site won't tell you in 5 seconds.

A reputable medical web site still can't give you a strep test or anything like that. It will give you the symptoms and what might be prescribed, but, a lot of viruses mimic the symptoms of bacterial infections, and only someone who really knows what they're looking for, how to look for it and has the proper equipment available to do so can tell you which is which.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 10, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
Yeah, googling non-prescription anti-biotics gave me some details.

Doesn't mean I didn't have to waste everybody's time today.   Spent an hour at the doctor's office just to have it confirmed that I have a sinus infection and need antibiotics.

EDIT: And LHF, did that not get censored in my original post?   It seems using the tapatalk app to post bypasses the censor somehow.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 13, 2012, 03:19:10 PM
my browser is acting funny...if I press the back button nothing happens...it just stands there working...then I press back again, and it moves back 2 steps instead of one...and then I have to move forward one time after that :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Darryl on February 13, 2012, 03:37:39 PM
my browser is acting funny...if I press the back button nothing happens...it just stands there working...then I press back again, and it moves back 2 steps instead of one...and then I have to move forward one time after that :)
What browser you using?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 13, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
my browser is acting funny...if I press the back button nothing happens...it just stands there working...then I press back again, and it moves back 2 steps instead of one...and then I have to move forward one time after that :)
What browser you using?
Google Chrome, might try Firefox again for a while to see if it works better. But this didn't used to be an issue for me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 13, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
my browser is acting funny...if I press the back button nothing happens...it just stands there working...then I press back again, and it moves back 2 steps instead of one...and then I have to move forward one time after that :)

Is that happening no matter what site you're at, or in a specific situation?   Stuff like that can happen sometimes if the previous page's content depended on a form being submitted, or some other kind of input that it's not receiving if you just hit the back button.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on February 13, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
my browser is acting funny...if I press the back button nothing happens...it just stands there working...then I press back again, and it moves back 2 steps instead of one...and then I have to move forward one time after that :)

Is that happening no matter what site you're at, or in a specific situation?   Stuff like that can happen sometimes if the previous page's content depended on a form being submitted, or some other kind of input that it's not receiving if you just hit the back button.
It's usually during sites with different types of lists. Like when I look at jobs, or portable computers. But I have also noticed that I couldn't log onto my internet bank, but it worked in Firefox. And this must have happend within the last few days.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on February 23, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
Linux is the stupidest operating system in the world, and those that helped create it ought to be punched in the face and kicked in the balls.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on February 24, 2012, 06:28:55 PM
When the hell are the Leafs gonna make a trade?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zid on February 24, 2012, 08:12:40 PM
When the hell are the Leafs gonna make a trade?

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Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Propellertop on February 25, 2012, 08:15:10 PM
Why are cabinets; some wood, hinges and handles, $2000 for an 8' length? I don't want them made out of freak'n gold...just some half decent wood that looks nice.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on February 27, 2012, 06:45:09 PM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

I helped my disabled father struggle to walk across a windy parking lot today, by the time we reached the front, a handicapped spot had opened up and I watched a guy park his car in there, get out and walk into costco with no problems.

I asked him if he was handicapped, he said there were people in the car that were handicapped and they would be waiting in the car while he went inside to shop. At that point, I flipped out and made a little bit of a scene by telling him what I thought of him. I was actually congratulated by a couple other customers.

I'm usually pretty passive, but it felt nice to stand up for myself and father a little this time.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Andy on February 27, 2012, 06:48:09 PM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

I helped my disabled father struggle to walk across a windy parking lot today, by the time we reached the front, a handicapped spot had opened up and I watched a guy park his car in there, get out and walk into costco with no problems.

I asked him if he was handicapped, he said there were people in the car that were handicapped and they would be waiting in the car while he went inside to shop. At that point, I flipped out and made a little bit of a scene by telling him what I thought of him. I was actually congratulated by a couple other customers.

I'm usually pretty passive, but it felt nice to stand up for myself and father a little this time.

Good for you. Too many people are passive when it comes to things like that. If enough people give guys like that crap, they will stop taking advantage.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: BMan on February 27, 2012, 11:09:33 PM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

I helped my disabled father struggle to walk across a windy parking lot today, by the time we reached the front, a handicapped spot had opened up and I watched a guy park his car in there, get out and walk into costco with no problems.

I asked him if he was handicapped, he said there were people in the car that were handicapped and they would be waiting in the car while he went inside to shop. At that point, I flipped out and made a little bit of a scene by telling him what I thought of him. I was actually congratulated by a couple other customers.

I'm usually pretty passive, but it felt nice to stand up for myself and father a little this time.

Maybe you should be telling Costco of the situation. I mean, paying membership dues should mean something right? Losing your head is understandable, but, you literally could lose your head if you run into the wrong sort.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on February 28, 2012, 05:25:09 AM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

That drives me crazy too.   I nearly flipped on someone when they parked not in the handicap spot, but horizontally across the entrance to it.   So they weren't occupying the handicap spot, but they were preventing anyone else from using it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on February 28, 2012, 10:09:56 AM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

That drives me crazy too.   I nearly flipped on someone when they parked not in the handicap spot, but horizontally across the entrance to it.   So they weren't occupying the handicap spot, but they were preventing anyone else from using it.

Is this a new way of parking.  I've seen it a bunch of times lately at the hospital....on that note, the people who park their car in the round about in front of University Hospital in London.  I completely understand that it is expensive to park your car at the hospital, but the number of people who sit in the car, (idling of course) while smoking a cigarette to wait for their loved one/friend to come out of the hospital is kind of disgusting.  It's made worse when you watch some of the elderly patients get discharged and half to walk a block and a half around the corner to get to their ride because these individuals have completely blocked off the round-about.  It's not your personal driveway.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: iwas11in67 on February 28, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
People who park in handicapped spots who arent handicapped.

That drives me crazy too.   I nearly flipped on someone when they parked not in the handicap spot, but horizontally across the entrance to it.   So they weren't occupying the handicap spot, but they were preventing anyone else from using it.

Is this a new way of parking.  I've seen it a bunch of times lately at the hospital....on that note, the people who park their car in the round about in front of University Hospital in London.  I completely understand that it is expensive to park your car at the hospital, but the number of people who sit in the car, (idling of course) while smoking a cigarette to wait for their loved one/friend to come out of the hospital is kind of disgusting.  It's made worse when you watch some of the elderly patients get discharged and half to walk a block and a half around the corner to get to their ride because these individuals have completely blocked off the round-about.  It's not your personal driveway.

What disgusts me is the high cost of parking at hospitals and other government buildings when we already pay taxes for them.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on February 28, 2012, 01:01:51 PM
I'm training a new guy at work today and his hair his giving me the heebie jeebies... It looks like a rug - a bad one... Almost like a helmet... I can hardly look at the guy.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on February 28, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Make sure you don't have a Freudian slip Sarge...no pressure! ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on February 29, 2012, 10:03:16 AM
Moving sucks!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on February 29, 2012, 10:47:28 AM
Moving sucks!

A'men.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on February 29, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
Moving sucks!

A'men.

I have to add my agreement.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on February 29, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
I'm training a new guy at work today and his hair his giving me the heebie jeebies... It looks like a rug - a bad one... Almost like a helmet... I can hardly look at the guy.  :-\

There you go, instant nick name for him - Hair Helmet
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on February 29, 2012, 01:26:17 PM
I'm training a new guy at work today and his hair his giving me the heebie jeebies... It looks like a rug - a bad one... Almost like a helmet... I can hardly look at the guy.  :-\

There you go, instant nick name for him - Hair Helmet

Squirrel hat.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on February 29, 2012, 01:44:34 PM
I had 8 hrs with him yesterday... Lucky me, I get 16 with him tomorrow. I can't even make eye contact... I mean, how many times do you figure I'll get caught looking? I might as well be working with Sofía Vergara.   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on February 29, 2012, 01:55:15 PM
Is there a chinstrap?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on February 29, 2012, 01:57:31 PM
 :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on February 29, 2012, 07:58:49 PM
If all the kids in a school today wear pink to support the anti-bulling campaign, who exactly is doing the bullying?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on February 29, 2012, 08:13:53 PM
I'm training a new guy at work today and his hair his giving me the heebie jeebies... It looks like a rug - a bad one... Almost like a helmet... I can hardly look at the guy.  :-\

There you go, instant nick name for him - Hair Helmet

Kerry Fraser.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on February 29, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
Fraser's looks normal in comparison. We're talkin' this bad;

(http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_354/3540955/file/igora-vital-hair-colouring-playmobil-small-47039.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Stebro on March 02, 2012, 04:00:31 AM
Moving sucks!
You know what sucks more? 3 moves in one weekend :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on March 02, 2012, 04:01:10 AM
Moving sucks!

A'men.

I have to add my agreement.

The best is those old style fridges that are made of real steel and are really heavy that you get to carry up a flight of stairs. You know those ones that feel like they are cutting into your hands while you use the side of your face mashed against it to get it up the stairs.

If there happens to be a landing in that stair case where you can't quite fit the fridge around and it gets stuck... Well that's just even more awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on March 02, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Illness.

I'm tired of it. I've been sick for almost two weeks now. Started with a short stomach flu, then a bad cold, now a bad chest infection. Been on antibiotics for five days now. There's been some improvement, but not as much as I'd expect. Starting to wonder if it's a virus. chest and neck are in such pain (from coughing and hacking.)

I'm worn down mentally and physically.

On the plus side, I've lost a little bit of weight. lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on March 02, 2012, 09:44:59 AM
Illness.

I'm tired of it. I've been sick for almost two weeks now. Started with a short stomach flu, then a bad cold, now a bad chest infection. Been on antibiotics for five days now. There's been some improvement, but not as much as I'd expect. Starting to wonder if it's a virus. chest and neck are in such pain (from coughing and hacking.)

I'm worn down mentally and physically.

On the plus side, I've lost a little bit of weight. lol

Maybe you need a different antibiotic.  Some antibiotics don't work on some people.  For example, Erythromycin is not effective on me but Amoxicilin is.  I notice a major difference by the next morning.  5 days seems long with little results.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zid on March 02, 2012, 09:46:51 AM
Moving sucks!

A'men.

I have to add my agreement.

The best is those old style fridges that are made of real steel and are really heavy that you get to carry up a flight of stairs. You know those ones that feel like they are cutting into your hands while you use the side of your face mashed against it to get it up the stairs.

You mean the ones you can hide and survive in during nuclear explosions?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on March 02, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
Illness.

I'm tired of it. I've been sick for almost two weeks now. Started with a short stomach flu, then a bad cold, now a bad chest infection. Been on antibiotics for five days now. There's been some improvement, but not as much as I'd expect. Starting to wonder if it's a virus. chest and neck are in such pain (from coughing and hacking.)

I'm worn down mentally and physically.

On the plus side, I've lost a little bit of weight. lol

Maybe you need a different antibiotic.  Some antibiotics don't work on some people.  For example, Erythromycin is not effective on me but Amoxicilin is.  I notice a major difference by the next morning.  5 days seems long with little results.

I'm going to see the doctor again I think. I'm on Zithromax now (Mylan-Azithromycin). It worked for me last year. It's either that or I've got a virus.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on March 02, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Illness.

I'm tired of it. I've been sick for almost two weeks now. Started with a short stomach flu, then a bad cold, now a bad chest infection. Been on antibiotics for five days now. There's been some improvement, but not as much as I'd expect. Starting to wonder if it's a virus. chest and neck are in such pain (from coughing and hacking.)

I'm worn down mentally and physically.

On the plus side, I've lost a little bit of weight. lol

Maybe you need a different antibiotic.  Some antibiotics don't work on some people.  For example, Erythromycin is not effective on me but Amoxicilin is.  I notice a major difference by the next morning.  5 days seems long with little results.

I'm going to see the doctor again I think. I'm on Zithromax now (Mylan-Azithromycin). It worked for me last year. It's either that or I've got a virus.

If the coughing is keeping you up at night I would ask your Dr for some Vodaphon (sp?) or something similar. You need your sleep first & foremost....not that I'm an expert / Dr or anything just a suggestion

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on March 02, 2012, 11:17:24 AM

I'm going to see the doctor again I think. I'm on Zithromax now (Mylan-Azithromycin). It worked for me last year. It's either that or I've got a virus.

Ya, you should definitely go back.  Erythromycin used to work fine for me  but stopped a few year ago.  Somehow I built a resistance to it, so who knows, maybe that's whats happening.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on March 03, 2012, 02:22:11 PM
No real food trucks in Toronto.... still..... one episode of Eat Street will tell we are being hosed
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on March 03, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
No real food trucks in Toronto.... still..... one episode of Eat Street will tell we are being hosed

That's not true. They're out there, there are just less of them, and they're harder to find.

http://torontofoodtrucks.ca/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on March 03, 2012, 03:10:40 PM
Ah oui la casse croute...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on March 03, 2012, 04:00:34 PM

I'm going to see the doctor again I think. I'm on Zithromax now (Mylan-Azithromycin). It worked for me last year. It's either that or I've got a virus.

Ya, you should definitely go back.  Erythromycin used to work fine for me  but stopped a few year ago.  Somehow I built a resistance to it, so who knows, maybe that's whats happening.

So i finished my antibiotics yesterday. Feeling a touch better, but not where I should be. So I went to the walk-in clinic at my own clinic this time and they're pretty sure I've got pneumonia. I went for chest x-rays today but won't get result for a few days. In the meantime, I've got another 7 days' worth of zithromax at double the dosage + steroid/bronchial dilator inhalers.

Feeling not too bad other than I can't exert myself at all. Even playing with the kid for two minutes makes it so I can't breathe. A few more days and I should be fine I hope.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on March 03, 2012, 06:44:06 PM

So i finished my antibiotics yesterday. Feeling a touch better, but not where I should be. So I went to the walk-in clinic at my own clinic this time and they're pretty sure I've got pneumonia. I went for chest x-rays today but won't get result for a few days. In the meantime, I've got another 7 days' worth of zithromax at double the dosage + steroid/bronchial dilator inhalers.

Feeling not too bad other than I can't exert myself at all. Even playing with the kid for two minutes makes it so I can't breathe. A few more days and I should be fine I hope.

Wow, well good thing you went back.  Those prescriptions should kill any bacteria and will reduce the inflammation causing the cough...wouldn't be surprised if you're all better before the x-rays are back.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on March 13, 2012, 01:02:43 PM
I'm still annoyed at whoever thought it was a good idea to have a ceremony when the Leafs where in first overall back towards the start of the season.  Talk about counting the chickens before the eggs had hatched...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: pnjunction on March 13, 2012, 08:23:47 PM
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I'm still annoyed at whoever thought it was a good idea to have a ceremony when the Leafs where in first overall back towards the start of the season.  Talk about counting the chickens before the eggs had hatched...
Yep that was just an awful, awful idea.  Obviously the recent slide is what really killed the season, but that marked a turning point from the hot start to the struggle with mediocrity we saw in the middle of the season. Tapatalked
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 18, 2012, 06:27:14 AM
The TTC is an absolute disgrace. Far and away their service makes the best argument for drunk driving.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on March 18, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
I'm still annoyed at whoever thought it was a good idea to have a ceremony when the Leafs where in first overall back towards the start of the season.  Talk about counting the chickens before the eggs had hatched...

There was a ceremony?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on March 22, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles...Michael Bay
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on March 22, 2012, 12:48:02 AM
Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles...Michael Bay

Yeah. I'm not a fan, but, he is working with one of Eastman and Laird (not sure which), so, I'm hoping maybe the reports aren't entirely accurate - like maybe the ooze is alien in origin (which I could live with) or something like that. I doubt it will be a great movie, because, I mean, Michael Bay, but, I'll wait to judge the alien thing until I see how it actually plays out.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on March 28, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
I like to be 10-15 mins early for appts, which is good, but not so good when you think your appt is 30 mins earlier then it is, an extra 30 mins to kill, blah!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on March 29, 2012, 01:51:59 PM
My knees ache...... thats all
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on March 31, 2012, 06:32:12 PM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on March 31, 2012, 09:55:15 PM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)

I hate it more when kids do it and when they purposely leave those stickers on them.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on March 31, 2012, 09:58:02 PM

I hate it when kids listen to bebop on their transistor radios.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on April 01, 2012, 10:29:28 AM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)

I hate it more when kids do it and when they purposely leave those stickers on them.

That too.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on April 01, 2012, 10:32:23 AM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)

I hate it more when kids do it and when they purposely leave those stickers on them.

That too.  ::)

I recently bought a hat, turned the brim as straight as I could, left the sale sticker on it, and cranked the hat sideways.  My poor 16 yr old failed to see the humour ;)
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on April 01, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)

I hate it more when kids do it and when they purposely leave those stickers on them.

That too.  ::)

I recently bought a hat, turned the brim as straight as I could, left the sale sticker on it, and cranked the hat sideways.  My poor 16 yr old failed to see the humour ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3hD9ZbguIg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: The Red Polar Bear on April 01, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
This new (well, not so new I guess) thing where MLB players don't put a curve on the bill of their cap is going to put me in an early grave.

(insert old man screaming pic here.)

I keep mine fairly straight (slight curve, but not that much). I have a large head (7 3/4) and if i put a big curve in it, my head looks even wider.

As for those who leave the sticker on it, I just like to think they can't actually afford the hat and are planning to return them :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on April 01, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
Maybe hats just aren't for you then.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 14, 2012, 04:47:42 AM
Heading back up north Sunday for 17 days, its going to be a long 17 days before I come back to Wpg and see my gf. I should find out by the end of the month if I transfer out of the north and to the Wpg area, I also have an application in for a System Operator trainee position with the company.

The job is strictly based in Winnipeg and a pay raise, I'm hoping to get offered it as I can no longer stand living up north, I have only been up there about half the time over the last 2 years due to training/medical appt's in Wpg and its time to make the permenant move.

I get depressed any time I have to go back up north and when I'm up there all I do is goto work and then come home and lay on the couch, or go out drinking. That is not a good lifestyle to have and its time for a change, a much needed change.

I can't remember the last time I drank enough to get drunk, when I'm in the city I'm never in the mood to drink.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on April 14, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
Do you have time to squeeze in a little working out? Running, biking? Whatever? Could change your mood drastically. I know it does mine. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 14, 2012, 02:23:38 PM
Yea, that would probably be a good idea, help me lose a bit more weight and get in better shape, as well as help kill time after work. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on April 14, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Yea, that would probably be a good idea, help me lose a bit more weight and get in better shape, as well as help kill time after work. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Or just get a girlfriend for the north. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Derk on April 14, 2012, 06:39:46 PM
I came in here to complain about my stomach and how I haven't really been able to eat much lately, oh and that stupid ear infection that has me on antibiotics, but I got a real chuckle out of the complaints about hats. And Ryan - hopefully your future brings about the change you are looking for. :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on April 15, 2012, 10:24:25 AM
I love hockey but it I hate watching EVERY other team in the playoffs year after year
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on April 16, 2012, 03:37:13 AM
Getting up super early on Monday mornings....
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on April 16, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Getting up super early on Monday mornings....

can we not just precis that thought right down to Monday mornings?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 16, 2012, 01:53:26 PM
First day back at work this am, after being away at college for 3 months, I got up at 630am and called in sick, slept til 9am, using a sick day on a monday helps the monday blues lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 16, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
First day back at work this am, after being away at college for 3 months, I got up at 630am and called in sick, slept til 9am, using a sick day on a monday helps the monday blues lol

:-P
I'm forwarding this message to your boss.











jk
8)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 18, 2012, 12:06:04 AM
hockey totally sucked tonight!

all my teams lost :-(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on April 18, 2012, 12:09:25 AM
I've been my own boss for a couple years, school is so going to ruin my paradigm, *le sigh*...

LHF, the Leafs didn't lose tonight...  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on April 19, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
This should be fun:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/free-network-tv-not-if-bell-gets-its-way/article2405422/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Leafaholic99 on April 19, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
First day back at work this am, after being away at college for 3 months, I got up at 630am and called in sick, slept til 9am, using a sick day on a monday helps the monday blues lol

:-P
I'm forwarding this message to your boss.
jk
8)

lmao


Also thanks everyone for the support, I am still awaiting word on if I'm transferring out this summer or not and a job I applied for in Winnipeg closed yesterday, so hopefully I hear something back from them. Winnipeg next Friday, can't wait :-D


Complaint though: Never knew I was this terrified of heights before, I had to work 30 feet in the air on a man lift that rocked back and forth and my knees wouldnt stop shaking :/ If I can't perform my job at heights, might be time for a career change, something not as stressful as this job has been the last 5 years. Problem is, I have no clue what I'd want to go into :S I am good with numbers and have always wanted to have an office job, maybe accounting?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on April 21, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Got a disk from a friend with hundreds of great epub files on it. - Spent hours and hours importing the ones I liked to my e-reader app. - Thought since they were imported, I could then delete them from my downloads and was right... Until I did a software update.... Bye-bye files.  >:(   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on April 25, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
You guys, our language is being poisoned.

Thru is not a word.   Neither is lite.

Also, lol is an acronym that describes an laughing out loud.   You don't say "lol" any more than you would say "laugh out loud" instead of just laughing.   And it has the unpleasant side effect of making you seem like a jackass.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on April 25, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
You guys, our language is being poisoned.

Thru is not a word.   Neither is lite.

Also, lol is an acronym that describes an laughing out loud.   You don't say "lol" any more than you would say "laugh out loud" instead of just laughing.   And it has the unpleasant side effect of making you seem like a jackass.

Lol liten up man. Your going too put urself thru the wall lol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 25, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
You guys, our language is being poisoned.

Thru is not a word.   Neither is lite.

Also, lol is an acronym that describes an laughing out loud.   You don't say "lol" any more than you would say "laugh out loud" instead of just laughing.   And it has the unpleasant side effect of making you seem like a jackass.

LOL!

I see lite on yogurt, sour cream, cheese etc all the time. You wanna fix the language, start with the Kraft people :D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2012, 12:02:48 PM
You guys, our language is being poisoned.

Thru is not a word.   Neither is lite.

Also, lol is an acronym that describes an laughing out loud.   You don't say "lol" any more than you would say "laugh out loud" instead of just laughing.   And it has the unpleasant side effect of making you seem like a jackass.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lite
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on April 25, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Thanks Guru, I didn't want to be that guy that points out that it actually is a an acceptable word.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on April 25, 2012, 06:31:58 PM
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/lite?q=lite
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Origin:
1950s: a commercial respelling of light

Made up word.   Should only be used when it is the proper name for something, as in Miller Lite.   You don't lite a candle, and that couch you're lifting isn't lite.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on April 25, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/lite?q=lite
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Origin:
1950s: a commercial respelling of light

Made up word.   Should only be used when it is the proper name for something, as in Miller Lite.   You don't lite a candle, and that couch you're lifting isn't lite.

I'm pretty sure most of the language was made up at some point.  It's evolving, for better or worse.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on April 25, 2012, 07:11:36 PM

I think there's a difference between a word being "made up" and the vast majority of the language that evolved over time from other languages. Sure, at some point the greeks and latins and their ancestors had to invent words but even then I think there's a significant difference between a word that formulated to describe a new concept or technology and the gradual acceptance of slang.

The divide here is a familiar etymological dispute as to whether or not a language should view common usage as the evolution of the language or whether that should be a separate category of speech. I think too often the various camps there are divided too extremely as a language can still evolve without accepting common usage and the incorporation of common usage can still have standards.

Personally, I'd say that "lite" should probably be viewed a little skeptically as it's not really representing anything that "light" doesn't. In that sense it's less the acceptance of new slang then it is the acceptance of poor spelling.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Ronco on April 25, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
Wot!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on April 25, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
Wot!

didn't you mean whoot?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Ronco on April 25, 2012, 10:51:51 PM
No that's what the Brit's say...Wot!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on April 25, 2012, 10:56:42 PM
(http://orangecow.org/pythonet/pics/fawlty/fawltybig3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Ronco on April 25, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Lindsey Lohan. Why!

Just what is the story's in the news about this little crumble cake?
What is the fascination with this train wreck?
It's Michael Jacksonish.

Can she not drop off the face of the planet and take Oprah with her.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on April 26, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
Sadly, gravity holds Oprah here... she cant fall off
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on April 26, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
Sadly, gravity holds Oprah here... she cant fall off

It's the coin that's holding her down.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on April 29, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
The hybrid commercials that keep saying "I haven't gotten gas for my hybrid in a month"  It makes no sense unless you tell how far you have driven!  As an example I haven't gassed up my Lexus gas guzzler in over 6 weeks. Impressive hey, except for the fact that I was away for all six weeks and didn't drive it once!!!  And then if you are being fair you paid an extra $10K for the hybrid version so you will have to drive over 100,000 kms just to break even for a normal driving person.  End rant.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on April 29, 2012, 11:26:24 PM
Lighter gypsies
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on April 30, 2012, 08:23:12 AM
The hybrid commercials that keep saying "I haven't gotten gas for my hybrid in a month"  It makes no sense unless you tell how far you have driven!  As an example I haven't gassed up my Lexus gas guzzler in over 6 weeks. Impressive hey, except for the fact that I was away for all six weeks and didn't drive it once!!!  And then if you are being fair you paid an extra $10K for the hybrid version so you will have to drive over 100,000 kms just to break even for a normal driving person.  End rant.

Are you Jim Kenzie?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on April 30, 2012, 08:50:13 AM
No, just a normal person who cab add.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on April 30, 2012, 10:29:01 AM
Getting my first taste of provincial negotiation tactics.  I love the lies they tell the public that have absolutely no basis in fact.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on April 30, 2012, 11:22:46 AM
Getting my first taste of provincial negotiation tactics.  I love the lies they tell the public that have absolutely no basis in fact.

Sounds like the last 2 election platforms
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on April 30, 2012, 12:42:42 PM
Calling into a company, automated system asks you to "enter your account number followed by#", then the first thing the customer svc rep asks for when they pick up????.... your account number.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Damian on April 30, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
Holy Rogers! Yeh, pretty sweet automated system isnt it...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on May 01, 2012, 03:32:35 PM
Not really a complaint, but I don't know where else to put this.

The Tori Stafford case had the defense call just 1 witness, a grandmother picking up her grandkids at Tori's school who saw McClintic go in the school.  McClintic herself denies actually going into the school.

The articles I've ready don't go into much more detail. 

What is the big deal about this detail?  Who cares if she went into the school if the rest of the story is unaffected?  They all agree she was seen walking down the street with her afterward. 

Are they going for the "inconsistency" route or something?  It's such a minor detail, I'm surprised they even bothered to mention it, nevermind let that be their only defense witness.

Is this a case of the defense just throwing in the towel and not caring because their client is scum?  I'm confused.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on May 01, 2012, 05:18:24 PM
Calling into a company, automated system asks you to "enter your account number followed by#", then the first thing the customer svc rep asks for when they pick up????.... your account number.

even worse, when you don't HAVE an effing account, and you just want information.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 01, 2012, 10:45:05 PM
As someone who used to work at one of those hellholes, the account number you type in is generally just used for routing, to decide which call center you're being sent to.

All the person answering the call gets is a little beep telling them someone is on the line.

EDIT: While I'm in this thread, I'm trying to renew my car registration online, like they want you to do.   But either my pin isn't working, or I've forgotten it.

But when I click "Forgot my PIN" it pops up an error saying I must be logged in to perform this action.   So I can't recover my pin unless I'm logged in but I can't log in unless I recover my pin but I can't recover my pin unless I'm logged in but I can't log in unless I recover my pin but I can't recover my pin unless I'm logged in but I can't log in unless I recover my pin but I can't recover...

You get the idea.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 02, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
Have you tried logging in and then clicking "Forgot my Pin".

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on May 02, 2012, 08:18:06 PM
Have you tried logging in and then clicking "Forgot my Pin".

wise guy.

 :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on May 02, 2012, 08:27:18 PM
CBC. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 04, 2012, 06:41:27 AM
Come on, Sportsnet.   I don't need to see Clint Malarchuk with blood spurting from his neck while I'm eating breakfast.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 08, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
North Carolina has boarded the ignorance train in amending the constitution to ban gay marriage.   I feel bad for the 39% of the population that is in favour of equal rights.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 08, 2012, 10:30:33 PM
And yet marrying your first cousin is still legit...

(banjos playing)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on May 08, 2012, 11:54:07 PM
I can't believe anyone in this day would be against gay marriage.  Why should gay people get to be happy!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on May 09, 2012, 12:20:31 AM
Don't like gay marriage? Then, don't have one!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 09, 2012, 12:23:32 AM
Don't like gay marriage? Then, don't have one!

I don't understand why this isn't everyone's opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 09, 2012, 12:35:34 AM
Most heterosexuals like myself are just repulsed by the idea of gay sex. - Not gay marriage.  I say, let them all be married so (like the rest of us married people) they won't be having any sex either.  :) 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on May 09, 2012, 03:05:39 AM
I bet a big portion of the people who are against gay marriage believe, in almost every other area, the guv'ment should just butt out of their lives.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on May 09, 2012, 05:41:18 AM
Come on, Sportsnet.   I don't need to see Clint Malarchuk with blood spurting from his neck while I'm eating breakfast.
don't wanna see that ever again. Ever. Saw the game. Still have nightmares.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on May 09, 2012, 12:06:23 PM
Yeah, but it was democratically voted.  Because democracy is ALWAYS the best option.  I do find it a little funny that a lot of the population of the Carolina's is black and that a good proportion of that community was voting against Gay Marriage.  Nothing says tunnel vision like perpetuating discrimination from the population that was grossly discriminated against (and still is to some extents) less than 50 years ago.

The fact that the Confederates in the American "south" vote against this stuff doesn't shock or disappoint me, but when you have populations that know first hand what it is like to be ostracized I do have to shake my head.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 09, 2012, 01:38:29 PM
Yeah, but it was democratically voted.  Because democracy is ALWAYS the best option.  I do find it a little funny that a lot of the population of the Carolina's is black and that a good proportion of that community was voting against Gay Marriage.  Nothing says tunnel vision like perpetuating discrimination from the population that was grossly discriminated against (and still is to some extents) less than 50 years ago.

The fact that the Confederates in the American "south" vote against this stuff doesn't shock or disappoint me, but when you have populations that know first hand what it is like to be ostracized I do have to shake my head.

Very good point.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on May 09, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
Yeah, but it was democratically voted.  Because democracy is ALWAYS the best option.  I do find it a little funny that a lot of the population of the Carolina's is black and that a good proportion of that community was voting against Gay Marriage.  Nothing says tunnel vision like perpetuating discrimination from the population that was grossly discriminated against (and still is to some extents) less than 50 years ago.

Not that I'm excusing it but I think that it's more understandable when you consider that their centuries of oppression is a big part of the reason that those communities are so religious and it's that religion that's most commonly used as the rationale for an opposition to gay marriage. Those are conflicting impulses and, like you, I'm disappointed that the more progressive cause didn't win out.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on May 09, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
Yeah, but it was democratically voted.  Because democracy is ALWAYS the best option.  I do find it a little funny that a lot of the population of the Carolina's is black and that a good proportion of that community was voting against Gay Marriage.  Nothing says tunnel vision like perpetuating discrimination from the population that was grossly discriminated against (and still is to some extents) less than 50 years ago.

The fact that the Confederates in the American "south" vote against this stuff doesn't shock or disappoint me, but when you have populations that know first hand what it is like to be ostracized I do have to shake my head.

For what it's worth, 2010 census data has North Carolina's population as 68.5% white and 21.5% black.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on May 09, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
I suppose, if one were to look for a silver lining/moral victory in all of this, the fact that a fairly conservative part of the US and their governing body actually let the issue of gay marriage reach the point where the residents of the state were actually allowed to vote on it is progress. 5-10 years ago, that never would have happened in a southern state. It's not the type of victory we should all be hoping for, but, it's something, I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on May 09, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
For what it's worth, 2010 census data has North Carolina's population as 68.5% white and 21.5% black.

And South Carolina's is 27.9% black so, combined, it's probably roughly twice the national average.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on May 09, 2012, 02:27:11 PM
I suppose, if one were to look for a silver lining/moral victory in all of this, the fact that a fairly conservative part of the US and their governing body actually let the issue of gay marriage reach the point where the residents of the state were actually allowed to vote on it is progress. 5-10 years ago, that never would have happened in a southern state. It's not the type of victory we should all be hoping for, but, it's something, I guess.

That'd be true, or truer anyway, if this were a vote on the legalization of gay marriage as opposed to a vote on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. While it's true that five or ten years ago this may not have come up that's because five or ten years ago other states weren't legalizing gay marriage/having courts do it for them and this sort of reactionary policy wasn't necessary.

So by that definition it's maybe a sign of the progress elsewhere, which is good, but you could argue that this actually makes things worse for gay rights in South Carolina then it was five or ten years ago.

edit: after a little bit of reading, this was a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and civil unions. So, yeah, that's pretty bad.
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on May 09, 2012, 03:25:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announces-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,”


“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president continued. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know,  believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 09, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
BREAKING: President Obama displays common sense.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on May 09, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
I heard an interesting perspective that if you are for gay marriage but are not gay yourself than you should not get married. Then you really are supporting gay marriage by not joining the discriminating club.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on May 09, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
Someone was shot in the park around the corner from my apartment last night. Not cool, guys. Not cool at all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 09, 2012, 06:56:31 PM
Not good at all busta. Man, I'm so glad to be in the 905... and here I was pissed that one  my kid's friends who lives down the street had their bike stolen a couple nights ago. - I'm sure we'll catch the creep. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on May 09, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
I heard an interesting perspective that if you are for gay marriage but are not gay yourself than you should not get married. Then you really are supporting gay marriage by not joining the discriminating club.

I don't understand that perspective. How does me being married put me in the discriminating club? I don't think it's quite the same as me abstaining from taking a bus because it's segregated.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on May 09, 2012, 07:36:03 PM
Should start a 'get divorced to support equal rights' campaign, probably get quite a few takers.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on May 09, 2012, 08:17:56 PM
I heard an interesting perspective that if you are for gay marriage but are not gay yourself than you should not get married. Then you really are supporting gay marriage by not joining the discriminating club.

I don't really get the point of the message that gets sent by this.  Usually when you withdraw from something it is done to get the attention of the larger masses.  When teachers go on strike, it sends a message because you have to find daycare for your kids.  It then kind of puts you right in the middle of the issue and you can then choose to side with the teachers, or side with government and voice your displeasure.

By not getting married you aren't sending a message other than fewer marriage license fees/divorce fees. 

What they really should do is round up every single person who voted 'Yes' to ban gay marriage and then uphold them to the values of the Bible (that they have used to justify banning this 'sinful' practice).  If any of them are divorced, undo the divorce - that's not allowed.  If any of them have committed adultery - stone them.  Etc. etc. etc. 

The sanctity of marriage died long ago, but hey, the customs of 5000BC said not to, so lets follow them.  Now excuse me while I go talk about how backwards the customs of Sharia Law are while mispronouncing America as Mehrika.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 09, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how boycotting marriage will really send a message.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on May 09, 2012, 08:41:02 PM

Dan Savage got asked about the idea of boycotting marriage a while back and I liked his answer:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=2418343 (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=2418343)

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Here's what I think straight couples should do in the meantime, HTRC: Get married, make a donation to the fight for marriage equality, and encourage your guests to do the same. And, hey, are you guys getting married in the next four weeks? Because there's a ballot measure in Maine that would strip same-sex couples in that state of their newly won right to wed. Help protect marriage equality in Maine by making a donation—right now—at www.protectmaineequality.org. And religious bigots in Washington State, where I live, are attempting to repeal a domestic-partnership law at the ballot box. Protect the rights of same-sex couples in Washington by making a donation—right now—at www.approvereferendum71.org.

And in addition to throwing some money around, HTRC, I think you should consider lifting one of the readings from my friends' ceremony.

"Marriage is a vital social institution," the reading began. "The exclusive commitment of two individuals to each other nurtures love and mutual support. Civil marriage is at once a deeply personal commitment to another human being and a highly public celebration of the ideals of mutuality, companionship, intimacy, fidelity, and family. Because it fulfills yearnings for security, safe haven, and connection that express our common humanity, civil marriage is an esteemed institution and the decision whether and whom to marry is among life's momentous acts of self-definition."

So touching, so true, and so universal—who could argue with those sentiments? Everyone at the wedding was nodding. And the reading continued...

"It is undoubtedly for these concrete reasons, as well as for its intimately personal significance, that civil marriage has long been termed a 'civil right.' Without the right to choose to marry, one is excluded from the full range of human experience."

After the reading—which was done by a gay friend of the couple—the officiant identified the source: It was from the 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision that legalized same-sex marriage in that state. It was a lovely gesture: The gay couples at the wedding were touched and the hetero couples were reminded of the injustice that gay couples face. It would be wonderful if this passage from the Massachusetts court's ruling on marriage equality caught on as a wedding reading, HTRC.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on May 09, 2012, 08:41:22 PM

I don't really get the point of the message that gets sent by this.  Usually when you withdraw from something it is done to get the attention of the larger masses.  When teachers go on strike, it sends a message because you have to find daycare for your kids.  It then kind of puts you right in the middle of the issue and you can then choose to side with the teachers, or side with government and voice your displeasure.

By not getting married you aren't sending a message other than fewer marriage license fees/divorce fees. 

What they really should do is round up every single person who voted 'Yes' to ban gay marriage and then uphold them to the values of the Bible (that they have used to justify banning this 'sinful' practice).  If any of them are divorced, undo the divorce - that's not allowed.  If any of them have committed adultery - stone them.  Etc. etc. etc. 

The sanctity of marriage died long ago, but hey, the customs of 5000BC said not to, so lets follow them.  Now excuse me while I go talk about how backwards the customs of Sharia Law are while mispronouncing America as Mehrika.

Yes!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on May 09, 2012, 09:01:15 PM
Not good at all busta. Man, I'm so glad to be in the 905... and here I was pissed that one  my kid's friends who lives down the street had their bike stolen a couple nights ago. - I'm sure we'll catch the creep.

I'm not exactly in a dangerous area either. Seriously, who would have every thought there'd be a shooting in Oriole Park?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on May 09, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Not good at all busta. Man, I'm so glad to be in the 905... and here I was pissed that one  my kid's friends who lives down the street had their bike stolen a couple nights ago. - I'm sure we'll catch the creep.

I'm not exactly in a dangerous area either. Seriously, who would have every thought there'd be a shooting in Oriole Park?

Sorry to hear about it from both the standpoint of the shooting victim and just how unsafe that can make you feel.

With that out of the way, maybe the shooter got confused by Oriole, and thought he was in Baltimore?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on May 09, 2012, 11:48:24 PM
I think it's great that Obama has made his personal views on gay marriage public.   The President making a statement like that is a big step forward, regardless of whether he's just playing politics or not.

But a statement like that would have been more helpful before the vote was taken.   He also gave himself an out by saying that it should be left up to the State to decide their position.

I just want him to walk up to a podium, say "EQUAL RIGHTS, BEACHES!", sign a piece of paper, and make it legal.   Yes, I know that's not how democracy works, but this is a pretty clear cut issue to me.

EDIT: I like this guy, Cory Booker, the mayor of Newark.   He puts it very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Z7tl7Vy8U
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 10, 2012, 06:49:10 AM

I'm not exactly in a dangerous area either. Seriously, who would have every thought there'd be a shooting in Oriole Park?

I guess it makes it all that unnerving in a cleaner neighborhood. I couldn't imagine that happening in ours. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on May 10, 2012, 09:11:30 AM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on May 10, 2012, 09:30:29 AM
I heard an interesting perspective that if you are for gay marriage but are not gay yourself than you should not get married. Then you really are supporting gay marriage by not joining the discriminating club.

I'm sorry, but that's completely absurd.  The "discriminating club" isn't married people.  At most, this gesture is a boycott of the wedding industry, which as an industry would certainly be thrilled of gay people had lots of weddings.  It doesn't take money away from anybody who opposes gay marriage, and it doesn't take votes away from anybody who does either.  It's a silent statement to nobody.

For that matter, if anything, this gesture would inadvertantly prove why gay marriage shouldn't be an issue at all, in that the marriage or lack of marriage between two straight people doesn't impact anybody else any more than the marriage ot two gay people.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zee on May 10, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html

I can't believe what I just read.  That is a terrible article and the writer is an idiot.

I just tweeted @TheMenzoid telling him what I thought of the article.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on May 10, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html

I can't believe what I just read.  That is a terrible article and the writer is an idiot.

I just tweeted @TheMenzoid telling him what I thought of the article.

Him and Charles McVety are why I no longer listen to AM640.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on May 10, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
All you married types are freaks.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 10, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html
That is almost unbelievable...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on May 10, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
That's crap, Menzies is on the list now.

Ace, there are no boundaries in Rock'nRoll!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on May 10, 2012, 11:52:30 AM
I hate being sick :(

Second day being off work and no gym. BLAH.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on May 10, 2012, 12:27:46 PM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html
That is almost unbelievable...

I was thinking the same thing and shaking my head as I read it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on May 10, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
Got voice mail, it asks me to enter my pin number. I have no idea what it is. I Call Mobilicity customer support and get this message "for security reasons please enter your 4-8 digit pin number."

(I later realized the default is 1234)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 10, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html

I got about 3 paragraphs in before I had to stop.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on May 10, 2012, 07:32:02 PM
Speaking of gay rights, David Menzies is an idiot.  What a ridiculous article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-menzies/brian-burke_b_1331929.html
That is almost unbelievable...

I was thinking the same thing and shaking my head as I read it.

Other opinions held by David Menzies:

- African Americans should get over the oppression of slavery
- Women should be content that men let them work
- That whole Hitler-Germany-Nazi thing and the Jewish population
- Sex abuse and the Catholic church - plea for attention

I'm far more offended by the fact that an editor deemed that to be acceptable for publication because it not only means that Menzies' idiotic views and fact-less hit piece was written, but someone read/skimmed it and went "yeah, that's ready to be read by the masses".
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 11, 2012, 01:00:17 AM
I like this guy, Cory Booker, the mayor of Newark.   He puts it very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Z7tl7Vy8U
Obama's successor in 2016?

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on May 15, 2012, 01:27:43 PM
CNN BREAKING NEWS.  Florida mother shot her four children today before killing herself at her home in Port St. John, police say.

There's just no words...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on May 15, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
I recall a similar story involving a Florida mother last year sometime too.  Terrible.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on May 16, 2012, 11:24:55 AM
I'll try and hold in my shock.   ::)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/g20-report-blasts-police-for-excessive-force-civil-rights-violations/article2434441/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 16, 2012, 01:48:55 PM
I recently flew to BC on Air Canada. When boarding the aircraft in Toronto, I presented my valid Ontario Drivers Licence as identification. The gate attendant would not accept it, insisting that it was their policy that I needed a passport. I knew this was wrong but I didn't want to argue too much. Luckily I brought it with me, otherwise it would have been quite the scene.

I intend to write a letter to the president of Air Canada asking him to explain why they apparently have a policy that is a direct violation of my charter right to free travel within my own country. I also intend to forward said letter to my MP.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on May 16, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
I recently flew to BC on Air Canada. When boarding the aircraft in Toronto, I presented my valid Ontario Drivers Licence as identification. The gate attendant would not accept it, insisting that it was their policy that I needed a passport. I knew this was wrong but I didn't want to argue too much. Luckily I brought it with me, otherwise it would have been quite the scene.

I intend to write a letter to the president of Air Canada asking him to explain why they apparently have a policy that is a direct violation of my charter right to free travel within my own country. I also intend to forward said letter to my MP.

You might want to ask why they violated their own policy as well. From AC's website.
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/before/traveldoc.html

Quote
Flights within Canada
At the boarding gate, a passenger must present:

    Two (2) pieces of government issued non-photo identification with matching names as long as at least one piece also includes the date of birth and gender; or
    One (1) piece of government issued identification with photo showing the name, date of birth and gender.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 16, 2012, 02:16:38 PM
He/She screwed up... You should have politely asked to see a supervisor.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 16, 2012, 02:59:23 PM
He/She screwed up... You should have politely asked to see a supervisor.

Yeah. Since I had my passport I just gave it to him to avoid further hassle. My fiancé was getting antsy ;)

Thanks seahawk. I'll be sure to include that in the letter :)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 16, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
I've been with the company 16 years now. I'm not sure the letter will do you much good but if the letter makes you feel better, then by all means... If you decide to proceed, and anything comes out of it, please let me know... Just want to feed my own curiosity.   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 16, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
I've been with the company 16 years now. I'm not sure the letter will do you much good but if the letter makes you feel better, then by all means... If you decide to proceed, and anything comes out of it, please let me know... Just want to feed my own curiosity.

For sure! I'm not expecting anything to come out of it. Sometimes you just feel the need to say things you think should be said.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: seahawk on May 17, 2012, 12:30:59 AM
@TML fan, NP on that info. I'm flying to Chicago in August (1st vacation in 4 years) on AC and seeing your comments made me want to look up that info so I don't have a similar issue.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Brian Glennie on May 17, 2012, 05:22:45 AM
I ain't getting in no time machine.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: moon111 on May 18, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
Was driving with some light traffic when the cops pulled us all over.  I've seen speeding tickets for a lone guy, but never an entire pack of vehicles like that.  Cop was nice enough to state I was doing 21 kms/hr too fast, not 20.  (Do police give speeding tickets anywhere the speed limit doesn't drop down unexpectedly?) We just bought a new vehicle and my wife took the insurance papers out to do paperwork...and put them back in her purse.  She bought a sticker, didn't get put on... birthday has passed.  I've never seen the police nail someone for everything and anything they could that wasn't being a jerk.  So now, as a responsible member of society, I have to hate all cops.  Better teach my kids this lesson as well.  I chalked up most people's hatred to getting what they deserved for mouthing off, etc.  Boy was I wrong.  Overpaid bullies that have way less honor then the criminals I've known.  Off to play some Postal II.  Bringing in a jerry can of gas to the police station.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on May 22, 2012, 11:31:08 AM
moon111, sorry that you got caught.  My advice, fight them.  The sticker one will most likely be thrown out once you show that you purchased the sticker and you can get the other ones lowered for sure.  I went through a few years where I had several speeding tickets and I was pissed at the police as well but hey, it was my own fault.  I slowed down and "knock on wood", I haven't had any in over 6 years.

Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Zee on May 24, 2012, 11:45:56 AM
Special edition/deluxe CDs really bug me. Why can't everyone get the same version? Did Zeppelin put out Zeppelin II with extra tracks in different regions? No we all got the same version, so why does every group nowadays put out one cd that has 10 tracks, then a "deluxe" with 14 tracks, "special edition" with yet another track. Screw you.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Spare Change on May 24, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on May 24, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Amen.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on May 24, 2012, 04:12:47 PM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Amen.

Imagine being a cop.  Every person you're talking to is likely lying to you to some extent (I only had 1 beer, or I just took off my seatbelt for a minute, or I had no idea I was speeding, etc).

I'd hate being a cop.  My hat goes off to all cops out there.  Yeah, there's the odd bad apple, but most I've got to know are solid people who care about what they're doing...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on May 24, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

{{{{{{{{wild applause}}}}}}}}
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 24, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
* ATTENTION PEOPLE OF WOODBRIDGE *

There is no "G" in sandwich.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on May 28, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Amen.

Imagine being a cop.  Every person you're talking to is likely lying to you to some extent (I only had 1 beer, or I just took off my seatbelt for a minute, or I had no idea I was speeding, etc).

I'd hate being a cop.  My hat goes off to all cops out there.  Yeah, there's the odd bad apple, but most I've got to know are solid people who care about what they're doing...

Great posts.  I will make sure my hubby knows this!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 28, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
When a sender of an email requests acknowledgement of receipt, I find it rather pushy. I normally don't send one back.... even in business. They'll get my reply when I'm good and ready.   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on May 28, 2012, 02:41:50 PM
I'm with you on that Sarge.

If it's really important that I know when the receiver gets the email, I'll simply request it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on May 28, 2012, 02:47:59 PM
So I got hired to my first job today, problem is it is door to door sales based on commission. I get $100 per sale but still I am nervous as Frig and not sure if I am cut out for it. Any advice?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on May 28, 2012, 06:04:35 PM
Watch this guy and study:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twfADoIO0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfW0GzDOVSk&feature=fvwrel

Oh, and grow thick skin, you're going to need it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on May 28, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
So I got hired to my first job today, problem is it is door to door sales based on commission. I get $100 per sale but still I am nervous as Frig and not sure if I am cut out for it. Any advice?

Bring alchohol
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on May 28, 2012, 09:18:10 PM
My complaint. People always complaining about the police.
I got into an arguement at work because a coworker got yelled at (cop let him off w.o a ticket) while he ran into a gas station. Neglect the fact he parked in 3 spots (1 of them handicap), but it's the officers fault for being aggressive.

It's the cops fault people get pulled over for speeding. It's the traffic cops fault someone gets penalized for parking improperly.

THis B.S. " I hate cops" mentality is a joke. We want them to protect us, but when they're protecting others FROM us there is a problem.

I'm not saying all cops are perfect or nice people, or even always correct. In fact, I think sometimes leniancy would do them better than ticketing (in Moon111's case for example) but at the same time, they didn't make anyone break the law.

People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Amen.

Imagine being a cop.  Every person you're talking to is likely lying to you to some extent (I only had 1 beer, or I just took off my seatbelt for a minute, or I had no idea I was speeding, etc).

I'd hate being a cop.  My hat goes off to all cops out there.  Yeah, there's the odd bad apple, but most I've got to know are solid people who care about what they're doing...

Agreed.  But on the same note, if you're going to choose to be a policeman, you are going to be held to a VERY high standard because of the job you have chosen to do.  The vast, vast majority are great people doing a great job.

EDIT: And stuff like this infuriates me: http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/1202587--rookie-cop-takes-heat-for-arresting-off-duty-officer?bn=1

This is what seems to be a good cop doing his job, and that is the treatment he gets from fellow cops?  Obviously cops should be held to a different standard when it comes to some things they can do on duty that may be unlawful for other citizens, but to arrest an off-duty officer for impaired and then be punished by your colleagues for it?  That doesn't strike me as a cohesive group solely striving to do their job, but smacks of a lot of the G20 crap where they all banded together to protect each other, the law be damned.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 28, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
So I got hired to my first job today, problem is it is door to door sales based on commission. I get $100 per sale but still I am nervous as Frig and not sure if I am cut out for it. Any advice?

Door to door sales? Man, I already want to punch you in the throat...   :P Seriously though, don't be pushy and it goes without saying, be polite... but not Eddie Haskell polite (if you know what I mean.) Phony drives me nuts.

Edit: and of course, best of luck. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on May 28, 2012, 09:28:38 PM
It's been months since somebody said/typed "Huberdeau."
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on June 01, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
I get 2 or 3 calls weekly from Air Duct cleaning companies.  I've asked them to take me off their list, and they just hang up.  They obviously don't give a crap about the do not call list...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 01, 2012, 10:37:40 AM
I get 2 or 3 calls weekly from Air Duct cleaning companies.  I've asked them to take me off their list, and they just hang up.  They obviously don't give a crap about the do not call list...

I got a call from them once, and when I told them I wasn't interested, the guy actually got mad and started pressuring me before I had a chance to tell him that my house doesn't have any air ducts!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 01, 2012, 11:07:09 AM
I get 2 or 3 calls weekly from Air Duct cleaning companies.  I've asked them to take me off their list, and they just hang up.  They obviously don't give a crap about the do not call list...

If their number comes up on your call ID, you can report them on the do not call website. Not sure if it does anything, but, if enough people lodge complaints against the same number . . .
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on June 01, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
After every time I move, I swear to myself that next time, I'm going to hire movers to do it for me.

And inevitably, the next time I move, I figure I'm man enough to do it all myself to save a few bucks, and end up regretting it.

I hurt all over.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 06, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
So an Ontario Court judge rules that not being able to drive faster than 5 km over the legal limit is unconstitutional?

I'll remember that the next time I get a speeding ticket.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 06, 2012, 11:20:42 PM
So an Ontario Court judge rules that not being able to drive faster than 5 km over the legal limit is unconstitutional?

I'll remember that the next time I get a speeding ticket.

I think the decision only applies to speed limiters.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 06, 2012, 11:22:32 PM
I'm a little confused as to how the Toronto City council went from voting on a measure to remove the plastic bag tax to banning plastic bags.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Dappleganger on June 07, 2012, 12:46:08 AM
I'm a little confused as to how the Toronto City council went from voting on a measure to remove the plastic bag tax to banning plastic bags.

I think it was to say people should stop complaining.

I live in Toronto and I'm fine with it... actually happy. People lost their $h!# paying 5 cents for a bag. Can't wait for the reaction to this.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 07, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
I have 5 or 6 of those cloth bags, and if I know I'm going to buy something, I take one or more with me.  Actually surprised how little I have used a plastic bag since moving to Australia. 

They always annoyed me anyways.  I'd never want to throw them out, so they just collect in my house.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 07, 2012, 01:39:41 AM
Where does that nickel go anyways?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 07, 2012, 01:59:19 AM
To buy more gravy for the train.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on June 07, 2012, 06:04:55 AM
Where does that nickel go anyways?

allegedly, to the environmental folks. Funny thing though, we charge people 5 cents each for those stupid bags, but when I see the invoicing from the supplier, we actually pay about 7 cents each for them (plus shipping! and taxes) in the first place. I think they're considered 'cost of doing business' expenses (which translates into 'business writeoffs' for the parent company, certainly not us) and then a couple times a year, they write a nice fat cheque (fat to me, probably a drop in the bucket to the company) to WWF or some such and say 'look at us, good corporate citizen!'. *rolls eyes*

I'd buy the whole 'it's a bag tax' if I saw it being rung in the way we do taxes, where it's accountable and remitted to the appropriate folks at month's end (or whenever). I'm not sure how they're accounted for though.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 07, 2012, 07:21:16 AM
Where does that nickel go anyways?

allegedly, to the environmental folks. Funny thing though, we charge people 5 cents each for those stupid bags, but when I see the invoicing from the supplier, we actually pay about 7 cents each for them (plus shipping! and taxes) in the first place. I think they're considered 'cost of doing business' expenses (which translates into 'business writeoffs' for the parent company, certainly not us) and then a couple times a year, they write a nice fat cheque (fat to me, probably a drop in the bucket to the company) to WWF or some such and say 'look at us, good corporate citizen!'. *rolls eyes*

I'd buy the whole 'it's a bag tax' if I saw it being rung in the way we do taxes, where it's accountable and remitted to the appropriate folks at month's end (or whenever). I'm not sure how they're accounted for though.

lol...it's a "bag" tax alright
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 07, 2012, 07:21:59 AM
To buy more gravy for the train.

did we tell you the name of the game? boy?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 07, 2012, 07:36:35 AM
Everyone else is just green. Haven't you seen the chart?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 07, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
Everyone else is just green. Haven't you seen the chart?

They're going to love you
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 07, 2012, 07:42:58 AM
Well, I do owe it to the people.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 07, 2012, 07:48:29 AM
I have 5 or 6 of those cloth bags, and if I know I'm going to buy something, I take one or more with me. 

Hipster.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 07, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
So an Ontario Court judge rules that not being able to drive faster than 5 km over the legal limit is unconstitutional?

I'll remember that the next time I get a speeding ticket.

I think the decision only applies to speed limiters.

Is the speed limit not a speed limiter?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 07, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
Is the speed limit not a speed limiter?

You're making a joke?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 07, 2012, 10:02:29 AM
Is the speed limit not a speed limiter?

You're making a joke?

Yes and no. I'm seriously confused as to how a device that does nothing except limit the speed at which you are allowed to travel to a speed faster than the legal limit is unsafe?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on June 07, 2012, 10:13:08 AM
Do men actually think that they look good in skinny jeans?  And how do they feel comfortable wearing them?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 07, 2012, 10:54:57 AM
Yes and no. I'm seriously confused as to how a device that does nothing except limit the speed at which you are allowed to travel to a speed faster than the legal limit is unsafe?

Strange, I'll have to read up on it more.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 07, 2012, 10:55:30 AM
Do men actually think that they look good in skinny jeans?  And how do they feel comfortable wearing them?

The discomfort reminds them of how much pain there is in the world.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 07, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
I think it was to say people should stop complaining.

I live in Toronto and I'm fine with it... actually happy. People lost their $h!# paying 5 cents for a bag. Can't wait for the reaction to this.

I'm not against it - I rarely use plastic bags myself - I just really don't understand how they got there.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on June 07, 2012, 11:28:54 AM
I'm not against it - I rarely use plastic bags myself - I just really don't understand how they got there.

They seem to have turned council votes into a "How can we F*%@ with Ford Today?" game.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on June 07, 2012, 11:35:30 AM
So an Ontario Court judge rules that not being able to drive faster than 5 km over the legal limit is unconstitutional?

I'll remember that the next time I get a speeding ticket.

I think the decision only applies to speed limiters.

Is the speed limit not a speed limiter?

I know I'm certainly glad that we are going to have more reckless truck drivers who can't stay in their own lane AND try and race each other to their next destination.  I know that any anecdotal evidence is not representative of the norm, but I can safely say that I'm rarely dodging vehicles that cross the lines that aren't semis. 

The funny thing is, there has never been a study to suggest that a 100 KPH speed limit actually saves lives/prevents accidents.  I'm sure it's true just because a lot of people can't seem to handle driving 100 let alone 120+ as reaction times become more important but I think there is a legitimate case if someone wanted to really fight the legality of enforced speed limits on the highway.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on June 07, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
I'm not against it - I rarely use plastic bags myself - I just really don't understand how they got there.

They seem to have turned council votes into a "How can we F*%@ with Ford Today?" game.

It's not a good environment, that's for sure.  It's a major leadership problem though.  Ford seems to think that declaring vague statements about "the people", "gravy" and other non-existent vague slogans constitutes being a Mayor.  I think some legitimate good is going to come out of some of the budget cutting (you can always put money back into things later on, but the hard part is taking it out in the first place) but overall he seems to think he is running a town of 500 where the Mayor goes and drinks with the people at the end of the day, and not a municipality of millions that requires you to actually be available to the media, go to national/international conventions of Mayors and other things that might seem like "waste" but are a reality of world.

I found his little press conference that he did right after the Eaton's Centre shooting a perfect example of how he doesn't get it.

1 - The Mayor didn't need to drive to a crime scene to give a press conference.  It wasn't something like a natural disaster where you can photo-op helping clean up the wreckage of a hurricane/flood/tornado.

2 - The conference essentially ended up being him doing a campaign speech about how great a guy he is because he coaches football.  Because that clearly had everything to do with a mid-20s male getting shot to death by an idiot gang banger.

He's completely out of touch with reality.

But hey, it's not his fault, it's the people's fault.  Also, he now wants his vote to count for more because he isn't getting his way because he sucks at being a boss.  Idiot.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on June 09, 2012, 11:57:47 AM
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on June 09, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki801ccg9Yo[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 09, 2012, 02:54:56 PM
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.

Door-to-door everything / anything!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 09, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.

Tell her off for doing what? It's not like it's laced with poison. You made the choice to throw it in the recycling, I wouldn't really think anything else of it beyond that.

It's not nice that they deceived you, but I wouldn't let it get to you.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 09, 2012, 06:25:13 PM
Tell her off for doing what?

My guess would be misrepresenting herself as promoting "good health" when, in fact, she's promoting her religious beliefs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 09, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication. But it's also possible that she believes faith in God is a means to good health.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 09, 2012, 06:53:01 PM
Don't ever under-estimate people's sneakyness
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 09, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.

If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on June 09, 2012, 08:14:22 PM
I always let my 100 pound dog answer the door with me. He can sense whether it's a wanted person: Purolator/UPS guy, friend of my son, Mailman with a pkg etc; or if it's a not-wanted person: religious tripe, door to door sales, and worst of all, those damn jerks with the 'water heater/gas sales" (For the record, you idiots, we OWN our water heater, and there is no gas in the house). And he lets them know. In no uncertain terms.

My favourite exchange ever was the obnoxious jerk who actually stuck his foot in the door when I went to close it, and said something about me absolutely having to hear him out. Then he TOLD me to put the dog in the back. And I said "No, he LIVES here, YOU'RE the trespasser." I suppose I sounded a little scared/ticked and Miko just let him have it, snarling, baring his teeth, getting his hackles up etc. I glared at the guy and he backed off a bit, though he still had his foot in the door. I said "You're a good boy, Miko...Good dog..." and moved out of the way so the dog could advance to the door and I guess the guy finally got a clue when Miko let out a really low warning growl like I've never heard before. He KNEW this man was unwanted. I slammed the door, and the dog got hugs and pats and treats.

If I can see that I don't know who's at the door, I won't answer it, but this was a young guy (didn't see the damn clipboard til after) so I thought it might be one of my son's friends, Grrrrrr,
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 09, 2012, 10:53:03 PM
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.

If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.

Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on June 09, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.

Tell her off for doing what? It's not like it's laced with poison. You made the choice to throw it in the recycling, I wouldn't really think anything else of it beyond that.

It's not nice that they deceived you, but I wouldn't let it get to you.

I know I let it get to me more than it should have. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Oddly enough, had she flat-out handed a Jehovah's pamphlet, I would have been less responsive. Was a slimy move on her part I found. Maybe that's the only way she'll get people to look at it? I wish I realized what it was just after her leaving so I could hand it back to her. She had this fake "got him" smile looking back.

And after carefully looking, the first few pages were about good health, then all the religious stuff took over.

This is coming from one who believes in religion too. I just don't like people forcing (I really don't consider door-to-door soliciting passing on awareness/knowledge) their religion on to others.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 09, 2012, 11:25:21 PM
Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.

Aggressive or misleading proselytizing may not strike you as a big deal and, accordingly, you're free to be as polite as you like. I wouldn't presume your view to be universal though.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on June 09, 2012, 11:57:24 PM


It's not like it's laced with poison.

Ha, that's debatable.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 10, 2012, 12:20:50 AM
There it is.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 10, 2012, 01:22:14 AM
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.

If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.

It was always more fun to play with it to me, hanging a cross upside down before they came in while quoting Baba Yaga did the trick... and I had to go get a cross... ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Peter D. on June 10, 2012, 06:52:27 AM
There it is.

LOL.

Can't say I wasn't waiting for that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 10, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.

Aggressive or misleading proselytizing may not strike you as a big deal and, accordingly, you're free to be as polite as you like. I wouldn't presume your view to be universal though.

I wouldn't presume it to be universal either. But I'm definitely not talking about aggressive proselytizing or salesmenship. I have little tolerance for that.

I can certainly understand that wasting Peter's time because he thought she was going to speak to something else is annoying and rude.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 10, 2012, 09:07:45 AM


It's not like it's laced with poison.

Ha, that's debatable.

About as poisonous as universally not accepting others' beliefs because of your own personal superiority?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on June 10, 2012, 10:04:09 AM
Back in Univ we had a Thurs tradition in our house.  We would play soccer in the field just around the corner for an hour or so and then the losers had to but the beer and the night would start.  This particular Thurs we had 6 guys playing and it had rained that day so field was a little muddy.  When we returned to house with beer in hand some of us took off the muddy clothes and were sitting at the table playing cards in just underwear when the doorbell rang.  The group's "devil" went to answer and we heard him say "come on in".  When the 2 young preachers rounded the corner and saw the group with 4 nearly naked sitting there jaws hit the floor.  We could watch them still running for blocks.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 10, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
Why wouldn't you get dressed before playing cards?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on June 10, 2012, 10:21:09 AM
20 year olds with beer and dope.  Showers were not that imp at that moment.  First guy was cleaned up, he answered door.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on June 10, 2012, 11:05:25 AM

About as poisonous as universally not accepting others' beliefs because of your own personal superiority?

No, indoctrination, whether aggressive or sneaky, is not acceptable.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 10, 2012, 11:08:45 AM
20 year olds with beer and dope.  Showers were not that imp at that moment.  First guy was cleaned up, he answered door.

What about Jamaican showers?
Ire ire
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 10, 2012, 02:07:05 PM

About as poisonous as universally not accepting others' beliefs because of your own personal superiority?

No, indoctrination, whether aggressive or sneaky, is not acceptable.

So you don't own a television I take it?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 10, 2012, 02:22:12 PM
I wouldn't presume it to be universal either. But I'm definitely not talking about aggressive proselytizing or salesmenship. I have little tolerance for that.

I disagree. Going door to door trying to convert people fits that definition for me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 10, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
They annoy me but it's amazing how effective a simple "no thank you and have a nice day" is with a smile. I've never had any of them push or offend me. I'll take 'em all day long over door to door sales people.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 10, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
I hadn't thought of it that way, Nik. It's an interesting point of view. makes some sense too, because regardless of whether someone is aggressive in their demeanor or not, I do feel like my personal space has been somewhat violated when someone I don't know knocks on my door to sell something. Though how they act afterwards really affects my viewpoint.

As an architectural designer, this is why I'm a fan of porches. :) It's a buffer zone -- a transition space between outside and inside -- that's too often omitted on newer homes.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 10, 2012, 02:48:38 PM
:) I have a front and a back porch with no obvious signs of which is used more, it's even more confusing for them and gives me time to get my game face on.

Plus, a ton of ivy and trees so it's also a little foreboding in general, if they're brave enough to take the step I can at least look them in the eye and try to scare them even more... ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 10, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
Bicycles of the City of Toronto. Red lights and Stop signs apply to you as well.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 10, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
I hadn't thought of it that way, Nik. It's an interesting point of view. makes some sense too, because regardless of whether someone is aggressive in their demeanor or not, I do feel like my personal space has been somewhat violated when someone I don't know knocks on my door to sell something. Though how they act afterwards really affects my viewpoint.

As an architectural designer, this is why I'm a fan of porches. :) It's a buffer zone -- a transition space between outside and inside -- that's too often omitted on newer homes.

And I'm not saying that you need to get angry or even be impolite when someone does come around. One of the favourite conversations in my life was with a Mormon missionary when I was living in Australia(if only because a large chunk of it ended up being about the decision to not include Isiah Thomas on the Dream Team).

That said, and I can't deny that my Eastern European Jewish heritage largely informs this, I'm fairly touchy about the idea of anyone trying to "convert" me regard of how friendly they are about it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 08:07:33 AM
Stuff like this;

Men's Humor ‏@MensHumor
If Monday was a person, it'd be a Ginger.

Seriously, this whole "ginger" thing is neither clever or funny. I find it as offensive as the "N" word.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 11, 2012, 08:26:20 AM
I too find it similar, just thinking back to all those redheads who were taken from their homeland and enslaved.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
I too find it similar, just thinking back to all those redheads who were taken from their homeland and enslaved.

Well, that might be the dumbest post I've read in a very long while, Potvin. You obviously have no idea what red headed children go through in school. It's pretty much EXACTLY like what other kids who look "different" go through.

Edit: It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt. As a red head, I find it's use rather disgusting.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Dappleganger on June 11, 2012, 08:46:24 AM
Bicycles of the City of Toronto. Red lights and Stop signs apply to you as well.

Did they change a rule or something?

Sidewalks are still fair game, correct?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on June 11, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
I too find it similar, just thinking back to all those redheads who were taken from their homeland and enslaved.

Well, that might be the dumbest post I've read in a very long while, Potvin. You obviously have no idea what red headed children go through in school. It's pretty much EXACTLY like what other kids who look "different" go through.

Edit: It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt. As a red head, I find it's use rather disgusting.


You really find it that offensive?

I'm a redhead too, and I didn't like the jokes as a kid either but whatever.. everyone got it for something as a kid and that's about the worst of it for me.  Nobody really ever calls me a ginger but if they do it's more just kind of dumb than offensive to me.  I really don't consider it anywhere close to the "N" word level of derogatory word.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 09:06:22 AM
I too find it similar, just thinking back to all those redheads who were taken from their homeland and enslaved.

Well, that might be the dumbest post I've read in a very long while, Potvin. You obviously have no idea what red headed children go through in school. It's pretty much EXACTLY like what other kids who look "different" go through.

Edit: It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt. As a red head, I find it's use rather disgusting.


You really find it that offensive?

I'm a redhead too, and I didn't like the jokes as a kid either but whatever.. everyone got it for something as a kid and that's about the worst of it for me.  Nobody really ever calls me a ginger but if they do it's more just kind of dumb than offensive to me.  I really don't consider it anywhere close to the "N" word level of derogatory word.

I do... I find this whole "ginger" thing disgusting. I think the people who use the word now are of like minds with people who might have found the "N" word acceptable 40 years ago. Further to Potvin's post (or at least my reply to it) Pakistanis (and Indians for that matter) who get called the "P" word would also find that word as offensive as the "N" word too but they weren't brought from Africa and enslaved in American plantations either so you know, a rather silly thing of him to say I think.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 11, 2012, 01:14:10 PM
I do... I find this whole "ginger" thing disgusting. I think the people who use the word now are of like minds with people who might have found the "N" word acceptable 40 years ago. Further to Potvin's post (or at least my reply to it) Pakistanis (and Indians for that matter) who get called the "P" word would also find that word as offensive as the "N" word too but they weren't brought from Africa and enslaved in American plantations either so you know, a rather silly thing of him to say I think.

Sorry to disregard your feelings, but I think you're blowing it out of proportion and I actually find your comparison to racists overblown, unfair, and ignorant.  I'm sorry you were teased as a child, but that doesn't mean everyone who uses the term is using it in a derogatory manner.

Most people I know that use the term ginger use it as a replacement for redhead. It's not meant in anyway to suggest redheads are inferior or in any way different as people other than red hair, pale skin, and freckles, which I happen to find attractive on women.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 01:22:13 PM

Sorry to disregard your feelings, but I think you're blowing it out of proportion and I actually find your comparison to racists overblown, unfair, and ignorant.  I'm sorry you were teased as a child, but that doesn't mean everyone who uses the term is using it in a derogatory manner.

Most people I know that use the term ginger use it as a replacement for redhead. It's not meant in anyway to suggest redheads are inferior or in any way different as people other than red hair, pale skin, and freckles, which I happen to find attractive on women.

Well, sorry but I find your view ignorant. "Ginger" is a derogatory word when speaking about and to red-heads.  - Period. As far as the other people you know are concerned, well, I think they should be advised to just say "red-head" and be careful with replacement words.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt.

Sure. It's not, however, a word that is closely connected to the dehumanizing racism that subjugated people for hundreds of years.

Nobody likes being called names. It's along the lines of "Ugly" or "Fatso", not racial slurs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:14:12 PM
It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt.

Sure. It's not, however, a word that is closely connected to the dehumanizing racism that subjugated people for hundreds of years.

Nobody likes being called names. It's along the lines of "Ugly" or "Fatso", not racial slurs.

No. It's more along the lines of calling an oriental people "yellow" which is just as deeply connected with racism as anything else and if folks can't see that well then it's truly a tragic thing. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:15:55 PM
No. It's more along the lines of calling an oriental people "yellow" which is just as deeply connected with racism as anything else and if folks can't see that well then it's truly a tragic thing.

I'd just like to point out the irony of your usage of the less than socially acceptable term "orientals" when referring to persons of an East Asian heritage.

Also, calling them "yellow" is most definitely a racial thing - as it's based on the skin tone of that race. Redheads are not a race, they're a genetic abnormality, along the lines of blue or green eyes or blonds. Calling a redhead a ginger is on the same level as calling a blonde dumb. It's nowhere close to the other example you've brought up.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:18:29 PM

I'd just like to point out the irony of your usage of the less than socially acceptable term "orientals" when referring to persons of an East Asian heritage.

"Oriental" isn't derogatory as "ginger" is though yeah, I should be using your term.... Thanks for pointing that out. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:19:54 PM


Also, calling them "yellow" is most definitely a racial thing - as it's based on the skin tone of that race. Redheads are not a race, they're a genetic abnormality, along the lines of blue or green eyes or blonds. Calling a redhead a ginger is on the same level as calling a blonde dumb. It's nowhere close to the other example you've brought up.

Well, I think we're not going to find much common ground on this one.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:20:34 PM
No. It's more along the lines of calling an oriental people "yellow" which is just as deeply connected with racism as anything else and if folks can't see that well then it's truly a tragic thing.

Well, again, "Yellow" to describe Asians(as opposed to "Orientals" which is, itself, not above board) is a racial slur. It does have a connection to actual racist policy and discrimination. It isn't just about hurt feelings.

So, again, no. Racial slurs are not comparable to other things that aren't racial slurs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: BMan on June 11, 2012, 02:21:51 PM
No. It's more along the lines of calling an oriental people "yellow" which is just as deeply connected with racism as anything else and if folks can't see that well then it's truly a tragic thing.

I'd just like to point out the irony of your usage of the less than socially acceptable term "orientals" when referring to persons of an East Asian heritage.

"Dude, Asian-American is the correct nomenclature"   

  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:23:09 PM
"Oriental" isn't derogatory as "ginger" is though yeah, I should be using your term.... Thanks for pointing that out.

I think you'd find a number of Asians who would strongly disagree with you, as would those who create the definitions for the Canadian Oxford dictionary. It's considered to be an offensive term when used to describe those of East Asian or Southeast Asian heritage.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
"Oriental" isn't derogatory as "ginger" is though yeah, I should be using your term.... Thanks for pointing that out.

You've decided that for them, have you?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
Okay, so calling an albino person  "powder" is a better example? Fine. I'm not seeing how calling an albino that or a red-head "ginger" is any less classless or distasteful than calling an African American or Canadian a "N" word. - People of the world - STOP DOING IT!!!   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
Okay, so calling an albino person  "powder" is a better example? Fine. I'm not seeing how calling an albino that is any less classless or distasteful than calling an African American or Canadian a "N" word. - People of the world - STOP DOING IT!!!   

Better example of what? I've never even heard of calling an Albino person "powder". Either way, unless I've missed stuff, it's not like there's a long and sad history of the subjugation of Albinos.

Of course, saying that, I don't even know if Albino is the term in use these days.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:29:54 PM
Okay, so calling an albino person  "powder" is a better example? Fine. I'm not seeing how calling an albino that is any less classless or distasteful than calling an African American or Canadian a "N" word. - People of the world - STOP DOING IT!!!   

I'd call comparing redheads to those suffering achromatism a bit of a reach as well.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 11, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
Okay, so calling an albino person  "powder" is a better example? Fine. I'm not seeing how calling an albino that or a red-head "ginger" is any less classless or distasteful than calling an African American or Canadian a "N" word. - People of the world - STOP DOING IT!!!   

It's probably easier of the people getting offended by it just stopped getting offended by it. The words will only disappear if there is no longer any significance behind them.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on June 11, 2012, 02:31:39 PM
Also: from now on I do not wish to be referred to as a Carnie anymore.  It offends me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
Better example of what? I've never even heard of calling an Albino person "powder".

Not outside of the movie, at least. I've certainly never heard of it being used in a purely derogatory sense. Then again, I can't say I've spent a lot of time around people with achromatism.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:31:53 PM

Better example of what?

Putting hurtful handles on people's genetic abnormalities.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:32:58 PM
Putting hurtful handles on people's genetic abnormalities.

Achromatism isn't a genetic abnormality. It's a congenital defect. There's a pretty significant difference there.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 11, 2012, 02:34:35 PM

Sorry to disregard your feelings, but I think you're blowing it out of proportion and I actually find your comparison to racists overblown, unfair, and ignorant.  I'm sorry you were teased as a child, but that doesn't mean everyone who uses the term is using it in a derogatory manner.

Most people I know that use the term ginger use it as a replacement for redhead. It's not meant in anyway to suggest redheads are inferior or in any way different as people other than red hair, pale skin, and freckles, which I happen to find attractive on women.

Well, sorry but I find your view ignorant. "Ginger" is a derogatory word when speaking about and to red-heads.  - Period. As far as the other people you know are concerned, well, I think they should be advised to just say "red-head" and be careful with replacement words.
It's not a slur in Scotland or Ireland. Must be a Canadian thing or an all in your head thing.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Can we just use the term "red-head" please?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:36:30 PM
Putting hurtful handles on people's genetic abnormalities.

Well, it's certainly a better example than "Yellow" or the N-bomb because those aren't genetic abnormalities.

But, sure, using "powder" as a derogatory term is, I guess, along the lines of Ginger.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on June 11, 2012, 02:37:44 PM
Can we just use the term "red-head" please?

Fine but I'm still going to refer to chicks as broads.  As long as we are cool there, I'm all good.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 11, 2012, 02:37:53 PM
Oh and as a Ginger of sorts with an Oriental wife, this whole thing is very upsetting to me.  :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on June 11, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
What about "Fugly"?  Where do we stand there?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
It's not a slur in Scotland or Ireland. Must be a Canadian thing or an all in your head thing.

Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think it is universally acknowledged as a derogatory term. I think I first came across it while reading "Trainspotting" and it was used fairly nonchalantly.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 11, 2012, 02:40:23 PM

Sorry to disregard your feelings, but I think you're blowing it out of proportion and I actually find your comparison to racists overblown, unfair, and ignorant.  I'm sorry you were teased as a child, but that doesn't mean everyone who uses the term is using it in a derogatory manner.

Most people I know that use the term ginger use it as a replacement for redhead. It's not meant in anyway to suggest redheads are inferior or in any way different as people other than red hair, pale skin, and freckles, which I happen to find attractive on women.

Well, sorry but I find your view ignorant. "Ginger" is a derogatory word when speaking about and to red-heads.  - Period. As far as the other people you know are concerned, well, I think they should be advised to just say "red-head" and be careful with replacement words.

Ignorant of your perceptions, perhaps. But my friend, who happens to be redheaded, pale-skinned, and freckled, with whom I just returned from an hour long walk while discussing this issue, completely disagrees with you.

It's possible that your views don't represent those of all people with reddish coloured hair.

Considering the discussion here and on many websites on the internet, it's clear that ginger being a derogatory term is greatly debated. So while you obviously have a strong opinion on the matter, it's not so clear cut. Ginger is probably moving towards becoming offensive, but right now it's up in the air. I think it really depends on how you use it.

My friend Jenn is a ginger.  <----- not particularly offensive. Just stating she's a red head really.
Gingers have fiery tempers.  <----- discriminatory.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
It's not a slur in Scotland or Ireland. Must be a Canadian thing or an all in your head thing.

Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think it is universally acknowledged as a derogatory term. I think I first came across it while reading "Trainspotting" and it was used fairly nonchalantly.

Sure... Just like the "C" word is I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 02:44:17 PM

My friend Jenn is a ginger.  <----- not particularly offensive. Just stating she's a red head really.


Again, I don't agree with that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:45:56 PM
My friend Jenn is a ginger.  <----- not particularly offensive. Just stating she's a red head really.
Gingers have fiery tempers.  <----- discriminatory.

Not that it matters and while that's somewhat technically correct I think it's probably better to use the second as an example of a stereotyping or prejudice. I think discriminatory or discrimination is a word probably better left to actions reflecting prejudice.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:49:28 PM
Sure... Just like the "C" word is I suppose.

Not really. While they use that word more casually than we do over here I don't think anyone doesn't think of it as a swear word. Similar to the way, for instance that while we all acknowledge that the F word is one not to be used in polite society, we're fine with dropping it into casual conversation with pals.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on June 11, 2012, 02:50:50 PM

My friend Jenn is a ginger.  <----- not particularly offensive. Just stating she's a red head really.


Again, I don't agree with that.
Then you're in the minority here so to speak, your perception of the word is warped, not everyone else.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
Then you're in the minority here so to speak, your perception of the word is warped, not everyone else.

Yeah. All the redheads I know in real life have no issue with being called gingers by gingers and non-gingers alike. I think most of them would be downright confused at your level of offence towards the term, Sarge.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 11, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
My friend Jenn is a ginger.  <----- not particularly offensive. Just stating she's a red head really.
Gingers have fiery tempers.  <----- discriminatory.

Not that it matters and while that's somewhat technically correct I think it's probably better to use the second as an example of a stereotyping or prejudice. I think discriminatory or discrimination is a word probably better left to actions reflecting prejudice.

I stand by my use of the word, but I'll rephrase it as such:
"Gingers have fiery tempers, so I refuse to serve them."

;D You're probably right though.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 02:58:18 PM
Again, I don't agree with that.

Which is fine. Nobody is going to tell you you can't take offense to whatever you please. At issue is you trying to push your interpretation of that word onto other people.

Just as an example, one of my grandmothers is half-Romany and, as a result, I was taught growing up that "to gyp" someone or even using "Gypsy" to refer to the Romany people was an ethnic slur on par with using the N-word. Now, the thing there is, that's true. And, as per what I was saying above, the Romany actually have been discriminated against in the worst of possible ways throughout history.

But you do a search on this website and people use Gypsy and even Gypped pretty casually. I'd have a much better leg to stand on to object to that but even then, the reality is that most people don't see them as offensive terms.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 11, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
With that particular example Nik, I think a lot has to do with ignorance. I honestly hadn't realized that's where the term "to gyp" came from.

edit: could just be ignorance on my part.
Title: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Deebo on June 11, 2012, 03:12:51 PM
I too find it similar, just thinking back to all those redheads who were taken from their homeland and enslaved.

Well, that might be the dumbest post I've read in a very long while, Potvin. You obviously have no idea what red headed children go through in school. It's pretty much EXACTLY like what other kids who look "different" go through.

Edit: It's a derogatory term aimed to hurt. As a red head, I find it's use rather disgusting.


You really find it that offensive?

I'm a redhead too, and I didn't like the jokes as a kid either but whatever.. everyone got it for something as a kid and that's about the worst of it for me.  Nobody really ever calls me a ginger but if they do it's more just kind of dumb than offensive to me.  I really don't consider it anywhere close to the "N" word level of derogatory word.

I do... I find this whole "ginger" thing disgusting. I think the people who use the word now are of like minds with people who might have found the "N" word acceptable 40 years ago. Further to Potvin's post (or at least my reply to it) Pakistanis (and Indians for that matter) who get called the "P" word would also find that word as offensive as the "N" word too but they weren't brought from Africa and enslaved in American plantations either so you know, a rather silly thing of him to say I think.

I am of South Asian descent and I honestly don't think the P word is as bad as the N word.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 03:14:39 PM
With that particular example Nik, I think a lot has to do with ignorance. I honestly hadn't realized that's where the term "to gyp" came from.

Sure and something I've learned is that my Grandmother's view on the term isn't universal either. Some Romany call themselves Gypsies proudly.

So, you know, to some extent you've got to be able to show flex.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 03:31:08 PM
Then you're in the minority here so to speak, your perception of the word is warped, not everyone else.

Yeah. All the redheads I know in real life have no issue with being called gingers by gingers and non-gingers alike. I think most of them would be downright confused at your level of offence towards the term, Sarge.

Well, I think there's a pretty good reason why it's not allowed to be said at my kid's school. Honestly, I think I might be the only sane person here on this particular issue. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Well, I think there's a pretty good reason why it's not allowed to be said at my kid's school.

I'd hope that your kid's school would not allow teasing or name-calling to any degree. Because if teachers are saying "Oh, you're making fun of that kid? Why? Because he's wearing crappy sneakers? Right on, just don't throw a Ginger in there" then it probably says something worse about the school.

Honestly, I think I might be the only sane person here on this particular issue.

Yeah, all of our personal experiences, well reasoned arguments and linguistic positions are KA-WAZEE!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 03:41:27 PM
Well, I think there's a pretty good reason why it's not allowed to be said at my kid's school. Honestly, I think I might be the only sane person here on this particular issue.

Yeah, because it's a bullying issue, but that has very little to do with the word/term itself and just about everything to do with the would-be bullies.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 03:47:19 PM
Then you're in the minority here so to speak, your perception of the word is warped, not everyone else.

Yeah. All the redheads I know in real life have no issue with being called gingers by gingers and non-gingers alike. I think most of them would be downright confused at your level of offence towards the term, Sarge.

Well, I think there's a pretty good reason why it's not allowed to be said at my kid's school. Honestly, I think I might be the only sane person here on this particular issue. 

Are you calling everyone crazy? Part of the meaning of the word ginger includes light reddish yellow, it's pretty benign.

I suppose if I was a kid in your class and I screamed 'Caucasian' at someone enough times that would become a banned word too? Or is that more about bullying than anything else?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 03:47:40 PM
Well, I think there's a pretty good reason why it's not allowed to be said at my kid's school. Honestly, I think I might be the only sane person here on this particular issue.

Yeah, because it's a bullying issue, but that has very little to do with the word/term itself and just about everything to do with the would-be bullies.

In fact, it's quite a large bullying issue and has as much to do with the word than the bullies themselves. The principle would have a hard time suspending a child on the basis of calling a red-head a "red-head." I mean, explain that to the parents. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 03:51:07 PM

Are you calling everyone crazy? Part of the meaning of the word ginger includes light reddish yellow, it's pretty benign.

I suppose if I was a kid in your class and I screamed 'Caucasian' at someone enough times that would become a banned word too? Or is that more about bullying than anything else?

No, just the people that don't get it. "Auburn" is nice way of saying "red-head." "Ginger" isn't. - There are no "kick a auburn" or kick a red-head days." There is a specific reason why bullies choose to use the word "ginger."     
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 03:51:18 PM
In fact, it's quite a large bullying issue and has as much to do with the word than the bullies themselves. The principle would have a hard time suspending a child on the basis of calling a red-head a "red-head." I mean, explain that to the parents.

But, again, that's not about the word, that's about the action. If some kid was pushing another around constantly calling him "red" or "redhead" or whatever, that kid would be suspended. The word being used, in this case, is largely immaterial. If a kid is going to bully someone because of the colour of their hair, they're going to do so regardless of what words they can or cannot use.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 03:54:02 PM

But, again, that's not about the word, that's about the action. If some kid was pushing another around constantly calling him "red" or "redhead" or whatever, that kid would be suspended. The word being used, in this case, is largely immaterial. If a kid is going to bully someone because of the colour of their hair, they're going to do so regardless of what words they can or cannot use.

No. No pushing around needed. No physicality at all required. Just the word alone said to or about a red-head is a trip to the principle's office. So, again, it's about the word.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 03:55:18 PM
The principle would have a hard time suspending a child on the basis of calling a red-head a "red-head." I mean, explain that to the parents.

I don't see how any decent principal would have a hard time explaining a suspension for bullying regardless of the words being used. Conversely, if a principal suspended a kid for using the word ginger without malice I'd have just as much of a problem with it as with red-head.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
No. No pushing around needed. No physicality at all required. Just the word alone said to or about a red-head is a trip to the principle's office. So, again, it's about the word.

The rule is about the word, but the reasoning for the rule has little to nothing to do with it. In fact, I'd say banning the word is a misplaced reaction to the situation - they were attempting to deal with bullying, but, instead, ignored the actions and/or motivations of the bully and put all their emphasis on the word. My guess is this rule made little to no impact on the situation they were trying to deal with, because it doesn't deal with the bullying at all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:00:48 PM
Conversely, if a principal suspended a kid for using the word ginger without malice I'd have just as much of a problem with it as with red-head.

And much to my original point, I suspect a lot of people would have the same issue 40 or more years ago with the use of the "N" word or similar slurs.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 04:01:11 PM

Are you calling everyone crazy? Part of the meaning of the word ginger includes light reddish yellow, it's pretty benign.

I suppose if I was a kid in your class and I screamed 'Caucasian' at someone enough times that would become a banned word too? Or is that more about bullying than anything else?

No, just the people that don't get it. "Auburn" is nice way of saying "red-head." "Ginger" isn't. - There are no "kick a auburn" or kick a red-head days." There is a specific reason why bullies choose to use the word "ginger."     

Kick a ginger day is more offensive to you than kick a red head day? It's the exact same thing to me.

If I was a kid in that school and could get sent to the office for saying ginger I'd do it every day, just to protest how truly absurd that is, then I'd start screaming about auburn inequality.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: hap_leaf on June 11, 2012, 04:01:21 PM
Yeah, because it's a bullying issue, but that has very little to do with the word/term itself and just about everything to do with the would-be bullies.

That is absurd.  You can't separate the perpatrator and their actions.  They are one in the same.  In this case, using a term to invoke a negative response to gain feelings of superiority over another.  It is irrelevant if you agree that the term has negative connotations.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
My guess is this rule made little to no impact on the situation they were trying to deal with, because it doesn't deal with the bullying at all.

Well, it would certainly make an impact on the use of the word which is what I'm talking about here. Honestly, I really pity the person who doesn't see how it's a slur.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
And much to my original point, I suspect a lot of people would have the same issue 40 or more years ago with the use of the "N" word or similar slurs.

You are being absurd. A racial slur is not the equivalent of childish name calling.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:07:10 PM


Kick a ginger day is more offensive to you than kick a red head day? It's the exact same thing to me.

If I was a kid in that school and could get sent to the office for saying ginger I'd do it every day, just to protest how truly absurd that is, then I'd start screaming about auburn inequality.

They'd be  equally offensive if "kick a red-head day" actually existed... and good thing you're not a kid anymore then I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:08:32 PM
In this case, using a term to invoke a negative response to gain feelings of superiority over another.

Right. Nobody is saying that's ok. The issue is whether or not specific words make that action worse or if the word, entirely divorced from the actions, is in and of itself worthy of punishment. Kids have lots of words to use to make other kids feel bad that can be based on anything or based on nothing. The distinction being made is between the words and the actions.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
That is absurd.  You can't separate the perpatrator and their actions.  They are one in the same.  In this case, using a term to invoke a negative response to gain feelings of superiority over another.  It is irrelevant if you agree that the term has negative connotations.

When you ban a word, you're not punishing the perpetrator for their actions. If a kid is bullying another kid with the word ginger, then, absolutely, punish the kid for that action - and that action is bullying, regardless of the words that were used. If that kid can't say ginger, they'll find something else they can say, because it's not about the words they're using but, like you said, trying to invoke a response and gain a feeling of superiority. Banning the word is separating the actions from the perpetrator. It's reacting to the effect rather than the cause.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:11:00 PM

You are being absurd. A racial slur is not the equivalent of childish name calling.

No. I don't think I am. A slur is a slur and "ginger" alienates an entire genetic lineage.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 04:12:44 PM
Well, it would certainly make an impact on the use of the word which is what I'm talking about here. Honestly, I really pity the person who doesn't see how it's a slur.

But, it still doesn't deal with the actual problem, which is bullying.

And, honestly, as a slur, ginger is, at worst, on par with calling an African black or a calling Jewish person a Jew. It's only a slur if there is hatred behind it, otherwise, it's just a descriptor.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:15:33 PM
It's only a slur if there is hatred behind it, otherwise, it's just a descriptor.

... and it usually isn't used any other way unless we're talkin' food here.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 04:18:03 PM
... and it usually isn't used any other way unless we're talkin' food here.

That's just completely untrue. To me and just about everyone I know, a ginger is just a person with specific external features. Like with the term black, only a small segment of small minded people use it as a slur.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:19:29 PM
No. I don't think I am. A slur is a slur and "ginger" alienates an entire genetic lineage.

It doesn't represent hundreds of years of oppression, murder and dehumanization. It isn't the basis for legally entrenched systemic discrimination or prejudice. It has no connection to some of the most monstrous acts in human history. That is what you are comparing it to. You are comparing it to words that represented an attitude that it was alright to buy and sell other people as property. To rape and murder them and treat them as farm animals. That is what the particular ethnic slur you've chosen to equate "ginger" to means.

Not hurt feelings on a playground. Not something being used in place of hundreds of other stupid things a kid can say. Not something that, as this thread has shown, isn't even universally agreed upon as to whether or not it's particularly offensive amongst the people being "slurred".

Get a hold of yourself here.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 04:21:57 PM


Kick a ginger day is more offensive to you than kick a red head day? It's the exact same thing to me.

If I was a kid in that school and could get sent to the office for saying ginger I'd do it every day, just to protest how truly absurd that is, then I'd start screaming about auburn inequality.

They'd be  equally offensive if "kick a red-head day" actually existed... and good thing you're not a kid anymore then I guess.

Why, because I'd be thinking for myself and challenging the notion that the word itself is bad rather than the bullying that started it? In fact I'd start a 'kick a Burnsy day' just to get the point across and have them try to ban auburn, red head and ginger.

Heck, I'd try to get chromosome 16 banned while I was at it, just to show how ridiculous it is.

Ginger has been used to describe red hair for a long, long time. I can certainly understand not wanting to be bullied or experience hatred because of your hair colour but that has nothing to do with the word itself.

I mean, what, using 'ginger' is going to make MIA's video come true?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
No. I don't think I am. A slur is a slur and "ginger" alienates an entire genetic lineage.

It doesn't represent hundreds of years of oppression, murder and dehumanization. It isn't the basis for legally entrenched systemic discrimination or prejudice. It has no connection to some of the most monstrous acts in human history. That is what you are comparing it to. You are comparing it to words that represented an attitude that it was alright to buy and sell other people as property. To rape and murder them and treat them as farm animals. That is what the particular ethnic slur you've chosen to equate "ginger" to means.

Not hurt feelings on a playground. Not something being used in place of hundreds of other stupid things a kid can say. Not something that, as this thread has shown, isn't even universally agreed upon as to whether or not it's particularly offensive amongst the people being insulted.

Get a hold of yourself here.

Well, if you cares to actually read the thread you'll see the post where I said "fine" it was a slur more like something else... I don't think I'm the one in need of holding here.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:29:58 PM
Well, if you cares to actually read the thread you'll see the post where I said "fine" it was a slur more like something else... I don't think I'm the one in need of holding here.

I did read that. Then I read after, in reply #897, you again ludicrously equating ginger to the N-Word which prompted my response.

Seriously. You could be making a legitimate point here about the need to curb bullying but instead you've decided to take a position that is ridiculous on it's face. It doesn't matter why a kid is getting bullied. Efforts should be taken to stop it. Kids using a word that many people, as evidenced by this thread, view as benign to bully someone else does not make that word the equivalent of racial slurs. You are embarrassing yourself by saying otherwise.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: hap_leaf on June 11, 2012, 04:30:27 PM
In casual conversation, I've never experienced "Ginger" as a socially acceptable term.  Never had anyone ask me to kindly take a beer over to "the Ginger" or asked "Have you seen a Ginger come by recently?".  And I think this is because people are unsure of its place in society.
 
I've only experienced this as a semi-derogatory term, the source of funny websites about "gingervitis" (and the South Park episode).  So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not? 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
You are embarrassing yourself by saying otherwise.

 I don't like the slur. It's in poor taste and the level to which it might be compared to is up for debate. Seriously, how can I be embarrassing myself when I believe I'm right?   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:41:51 PM
So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not?

Yes, absolutely.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
I don't like the slur. It's in poor taste and the level to which it might be compared to is up for debate.

Sure it's up for debate. As we've seen in this thread, people are more than comfortable debating whether or not it's offensive at all. Do you think the same would be true with any racial slurs? In particular the one you won't even type because of how offensive it is? Think there's anyone who's going to chime in with "Yeah, you know, I've always thought of using the N-word to describe black people as kind of benign".

Seriously, how can I be embarrassing myself when I believe I'm right?

Because embarrassing yourself doesn't necessarily refer to how you view yourself or the actions you're taking.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:51:30 PM
I've only experienced this as a semi-derogatory term, the source of funny websites about "gingervitis" (and the South Park episode).  So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.

Ok, but not everyone is going to take their cues from funny websites and South Park episodes. I'm willing to be that using "ginger" as a descriptive term without malice is probably hundreds of years old.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 11, 2012, 04:52:55 PM
So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not?

Yes, absolutely.

Then why choose to view it as offensive? If you chose to view it as inoffensive, the word loses all of its power to hurt you, and becomes meaningless.

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 04:54:24 PM
So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not?

Sure, but, as we've seen evidenced by this thread and by many of us in our day to day lives, even redheads as a group can't agree on whether it's offensive or not, with the majority seemingly leaning towards not.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 04:55:04 PM
So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not?

Yes, absolutely.

Then why choose to view it as offensive? If you chose to view it as inoffensive, the word loses all of its power to hurt you, and becomes meaningless.

Well, because it is. Just like the "N" word is.

* insert Nik rant here *
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 04:56:31 PM
Well, because it is. Just like the "N" word is.

* insert Nik rant here *

But as Nik has pointed out, it's not like the N word in that fashion at all. It doesn't come with the baggage attached to it, the history, the dehumanization, etc. Just because you feel it's offensive in that way does not make it offensive in that way.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 04:58:50 PM
Well, because it is. Just like the "N" word is.

* insert Nik rant here *

Ho, ho, ho. You made reference to the N word for such humorous effect there. You're like our very own Michael Richards.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 11, 2012, 05:02:47 PM
So I can see why someone with red hair would find it awkward.  Should they have the final say if it is offensive or not?

Yes, absolutely.

Then why choose to view it as offensive? If you chose to view it as inoffensive, the word loses all of its power to hurt you, and becomes meaningless.

Well, because it is. Just like the "N" word is.

* insert Nik rant here *

Some black people choose to use the word as a term of endearment among friends. It doesn't have the same effect or connotation. You're CHOOSING to be offended by it, which gives the word it's power against you, and people will use it against you.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:04:24 PM
Well, because it is. Just like the "N" word is.

* insert Nik rant here *

But as Nik has pointed out, it's not like the N word in that fashion at all. It doesn't come with the baggage attached to it, the history, the dehumanization, etc. Just because you feel it's offensive in that way does not make it offensive in that way.

Again, no it isn't exactly the same. It's as I said -  "like." I fully understand the degree of baggage associated with the other. On the other hand, I'm sure you'd appreciate that there is in fact some baggage associated with the word "ginger." More to some than others.     
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 05:06:40 PM
Again, no it isn't exactly the same. It's as I said -  "like." I fully understand the degree of baggage associated with the other. On the other hand, I'm sure you'd appreciate that there is in fact some baggage associated with the word "ginger." More to some than others.   

Well, maybe, but it's still like comparing a purse to the entire cargo of an overbooked 747. There's more baggage attached to the word Jew, and I don't know too many people who would consider that to be an offensive term for a Jewish person. I know I certainly don't.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
You are embarrassing yourself by saying otherwise.

 I don't like the slur. It's in poor taste and the level to which it might be compared to is up for debate. Seriously, how can I be embarrassing myself when I believe I'm right?

When you compare it to the 'N' word, yeah, it's embarrassing. You might not like it and if I knew you in the real world I'd respect that ( though I'd have a touch of Austin Powers 'gingergingerginger' in my head ) but the comparison is way over the top.

The word has been well planted in the english language for an awfully long time ( Dickens used it to describe beard hair in 'Our Mutual Friend' in 1865 ).

Now I was in love with Tina Louise but is it any wonder her name was Ginger on the show?

Potvin and Nik, did you ever hear anyone use 'ranga' in relation to red heads while you were down under?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:10:17 PM
Again, no it isn't exactly the same. It's as I said -  "like." I fully understand the degree of baggage associated with the other. On the other hand, I'm sure you'd appreciate that there is in fact some baggage associated with the word "ginger." More to some than others.   

Well, maybe, but it's still like comparing a purse to the entire cargo of an overbooked 747. There's more baggage attached to the word Jew, and I don't know too many people who would consider that to be an offensive term. I know I certainly don't.

Well, my Dad's side of the family is Jewish and I don't take offense to "Jew" either. "Ginger" on the other hand upsets me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 05:11:07 PM
Again, no it isn't exactly the same. It's as I said -  "like." I fully understand the degree of baggage associated with the other. On the other hand, I'm sure you'd appreciate that there is in fact some baggage associated with the word "ginger." More to some than others.   

Well, maybe, but it's still like comparing a purse to the entire cargo of an overbooked 747. There's more baggage attached to the word Jew, and I don't know too many people who would consider that to be an offensive term for a Jewish person. I know I certainly don't.

There's a Louis CK bit where he talks about Jew being the only word that is acceptable and a slur depending on how you say it. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:12:36 PM

When you compare it to the 'N' word, yeah, it's embarrassing.

Well it might not sit right with some here but I'm not embarrassed at all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
Potvin and Nik, did you ever hear anyone use 'ranga' in relation to red heads while you were down under?

Yeah, again, same context more or less.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
Well, my Dad's side of the family is Jewish and I don't take offense to "Jew" either. "Ginger" on the other hand upsets me.

Honestly, I find that strange. One of those words has a history of being used as an offensive racially motivated hate word and still is used in that fashion by many (which I do take offence to - it's all about context), and the other is ginger.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 05:23:46 PM

When you compare it to the 'N' word, yeah, it's embarrassing.

Well it might not sit right with some here but I'm not embarrassed at all.

I suppose it doesn't matter that Peter Baker built a career around his moniker?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:25:01 PM
Well, my Dad's side of the family is Jewish and I don't take offense to "Jew" either. "Ginger" on the other hand upsets me.

Honestly, I find that strange. One of those words has a history of being used as an offensive racially motivated hate word and still is used in that fashion by many (which I do take offence to - it's all about context), and the other is ginger.

It's not all that strange. I know many Jews including most of my Dad's family refer to themselves as "Jews." When non-Jews say "Jew" I don't take exception when it's said without malice. When a non-Jew says something like "bagel" well, then that's a different story. In my mind, "ginger" rougly equals "bagel." 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 05:25:39 PM
Honestly, I find that strange. One of those words has a history of being used as an offensive racially motivated hate word and still is used in that fashion by many (which I do take offence to - it's all about context), and the other is ginger.

Well, yeah. "Jew" is a word that doesn't really have any inherently negative connotations. I don't know anyone in my vast and extended family who wouldn't refer to us as Jews. It's not just a word to refer to us but it's the most common.

So, yeah, it's absent the baggage but I think that is a good comparison. Ginger is a word that's entirely about context.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 05:29:11 PM
It's not all that strange. I know many Jews including most of my Dad's family refer to themselves as "Jews." When non-Jews say "Jew" I don't take exception when it's said without malice. When a non-Jew says something like "bagel" well, then that's a different story. In my mind, "ginger" rougly equals "bagel."

Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
I have a buddy who's former girlfriend's a red head. Years back a bunch of us were at a house party, playing darts and switching off jamming and I could see him and her sort of arguing. I asked him about it and he said she was mad because he called her Dr. Zaius, but he only called her that because of something she'd done/said yadda yadda.

I started humming 'rock me Amadeus' and everything went sideways after that, we had the whole room singing 'Dr. Zaius' to the tune of 'rock me Amadeus' much to her chagrin at the time, though she even came to laugh about it later.

Come on and rock me Dr. Zaius!

I'm not saying we were right or anything but as anecdotes go, she had a lot more to be mad about than what I'm reading here.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:34:18 PM

Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.

Well, when people use "ginger" I'm insulted by the word AND their stupidity.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.

Seriously. If someone called me a bagel I'm not entirely sure I'd even understand what they were getting across. I associate bagels more with New York than I do with Judaism.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on June 11, 2012, 05:41:35 PM

Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.

Well, when people use "ginger" I'm insulted by the word AND their stupidity.

In general? That seems kind of closed minded to me, I mean sure get offended if they're saying you're a ginger and have no soul but if they're using it to describe hair colour, I don't see a thing wrong with it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on June 11, 2012, 05:43:04 PM


two of my son's best friends (one male, one female) are both ginger/red heads. They have absolutely no problem with being called either redheads or gingers. (I just asked the guy) I suppose it's a personal perception really. He says he was never bullied because of his hair colour as a young kid, more because he was kinda chubby as a youngster. Carrot Top is the one name they didn't like being called, but neither one of them has the carroty-red hair that one associates with that name, they're more auburn.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 05:48:25 PM


two of my son's best friends (one male, one female) are both ginger/red heads. They have absolutely no problem with being called either redheads or gingers. (I just asked the guy) I suppose it's a personal perception really. He says he was never bullied because of his hair colour as a young kid, more because he was kinda chubby as a youngster. Carrot Top is the one name they didn't like being called, but neither one of them has the carroty-red hair that one associates with that name, they're more auburn.

But look at the tweet I took exception to;

Men's Humor ‏@MensHumor
If Monday was a person, it'd be a Ginger.

Go ahead and ask those kids how they'd feel if they were associated with the least favorite day of the week.

 What if it read;

"If Monday was a religion, it would be a Jew?"

Not so nice, is it?   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
What if it read;

"If Monday was a religion, it would be a Jew?"

Not so nice, is it?

Grammatically? No, it's atrocious. A Jew is a person, not a religion.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2012, 05:52:28 PM
But look at the tweet I took exception to;

Men's Humor ‏@MensHumor
If Monday was a person, it'd be a Ginger.

Go ahead and ask those kids how they'd feel if they were associated with the least favorite day of the week.

Well, sure, in that context, it's offensive. But, at the same time, you could replace ginger there with practically anything and it would be offensive. Also, it would still not be funny.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 11, 2012, 07:23:49 PM

Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.

Well, when people use "ginger" I'm insulted by the word AND their stupidity.

I normally enjoy debating with you Sarge, but this wading into ridiculous territory now. Can't you a least acknowledge that your point of view is on the extreme and seemingly not representative of the majority of people, including redheads most likely (just based on anecdotal knowledge; i.e. asking every redhead I saw today this very question, which admittedly was only two.) And because your point of view is on the extreme end that perhaps it's you being ignorant by calling every one who uses the word ginger stupid?

I respect your right to have a unique opinion, but calling us stupid is rude as all hell.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 11, 2012, 07:32:51 PM
Bullfrog, with all due respect, I can't (or won't) lie to myself about my feelings about it. If they seem absurd to you, well I'm sorry. With that said, no hard feeling to those  here (which appear to be most) who don't get that.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on June 11, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
Well, sure, in that context, it's offensive. But, at the same time, you could replace ginger there with practically anything and it would be offensive.

And ultimately, that's where it should end. All anyone gets to decide is what offends them, not what other people think is offensive. You can't force a cultural standard on someone, nor should you want to. Some people get offended by all sorts of pointless nonsense and it's not incumbent on others to fall in line unless they genuinely agree.

I'd say this thread establishes pretty well that ginger is anything but an agreed upon insult, let alone an egregiously bad one.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sucker Punch on June 12, 2012, 12:12:05 AM
I don't like being teased about my weight.   I guess that's kind of like slavery.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 12, 2012, 12:19:56 AM

Honestly, if someone called me a bagel, I'd be more offended by their stupidity than by their attempt to insult me.

Well, when people use "ginger" I'm insulted by the word AND their stupidity.

I normally enjoy debating with you Sarge, but this wading into ridiculous territory now. Can't you a least acknowledge that your point of view is on the extreme and seemingly not representative of the majority of people, including redheads most likely (just based on anecdotal knowledge; i.e. asking every redhead I saw today this very question, which admittedly was only two.) And because your point of view is on the extreme end that perhaps it's you being ignorant by calling every one who uses the word ginger stupid?

I respect your right to have a unique opinion, but calling us stupid is rude as all hell.

I see the time change allowed me to conveniently comment and miss this whole thing, but I agree with this (considering my response was called stupid as well).  I took issue with somehow comparing calling someone a ginger with the N-word, which has all sorts of contemporary and historical baggage attached to it.

As someone (Nik perhaps?) said earlier, the fact that you won't even type the N-word tells me you should not be suggesting the two are comparable.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 12, 2012, 07:06:24 AM
Again, I've conceded a couple of times that the comparison wasn't a good one. That, I regret. I guess my problem with the word is that as perhaps shown on this board is that folks seem to think it's somehow more descriptive than derogatory. To say one is a "ginger" is nothing at all like calling someone a "brunette." I wish people would see that it's a slur and they stop using it, that's all.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on June 12, 2012, 12:03:59 PM
We bought a 2007 Mazda5 about 4 months ago.  The last two weeks we've really noticed it's going through oil.

Today is the second time in 2 weeks that it's in the Mazda dealership.  It's starting to look like engine replacement.  It's not a leak, it's not going into the coolant, it the compression is fine.  They're running more tests this afternoon.   UGHHH!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AlmosGirl on June 13, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
That sucks Rick.  Did you buy an extended warranty when you got it? 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on June 13, 2012, 09:05:17 PM
That sucks Rick.  Did you buy an extended warranty when you got it?

Nope.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Andy on June 14, 2012, 09:12:41 AM
We bought a 2007 Mazda5 about 4 months ago.  The last two weeks we've really noticed it's going through oil.

Today is the second time in 2 weeks that it's in the Mazda dealership.  It's starting to look like engine replacement.  It's not a leak, it's not going into the coolant, it the compression is fine.  They're running more tests this afternoon.   UGHHH!

I've had some frustrating ongoing problems with a Mazda (Tribute) I bought a few years back myself, starting the same year I got it (2009).
Things like Dome light issues, windshield wiper malfunctions, engine not turning on, brake pedal gyrations; pretty much a cornucopia of neverending problems.
In short; Mazda is awful. :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 14, 2012, 10:18:53 AM
We bought a 2007 Mazda5 about 4 months ago.  The last two weeks we've really noticed it's going through oil.

Today is the second time in 2 weeks that it's in the Mazda dealership.  It's starting to look like engine replacement.  It's not a leak, it's not going into the coolant, it the compression is fine.  They're running more tests this afternoon.   UGHHH!

I've had some frustrating ongoing problems with a Mazda (Tribute) I bought a few years back myself, starting the same year I got it (2009).
Things like Dome light issues, windshield wiper malfunctions, engine not turning on, brake pedal gyrations; pretty much a cornucopia of neverending problems.
In short; Mazda is awful. :(

I have a 2007 MazdaSpeed3, I've never had an issue, Mazdas aren't awful. 

From the sounds of it, you guys both bought used vehicles, who knows what the owner before you did to those vehicles, if they were maintaned well etc... Any used car can have problems, especially once the warranty is up.  That's the chance you take with buying used, one reason I only buy new vehicles.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 14, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Though the Mazda Tribute is essentially just a rebadged (or perhaps co-badged is more appropriate) Ford Escape, it's generally got a good track record. The 2009 model year had lots of problems though and the earlier versions had some electrical issues.

Mazda's in general are above-average for reliability. I'd have no problems buying a Mazda.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TML fan on June 14, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
My parents just bought a 2010 Tribute. Never driven. It has less than 7000km on it, and they are already having problems. I drove it a few times and I felt it was very sluggish on acceleration, but I'm not sure if that's just a characteristic of the car or not. It also felt like there were transmission problems. Nice looking car, but I wouldn't buy one myself.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on June 14, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
My parents just bought a 2010 Tribute. Never driven. It has less than 7000km on it, and they are already having problems. I drove it a few times and I felt it was very sluggish on acceleration, but I'm not sure if that's just a characteristic of the car or not. It also felt like there were transmission problems. Nice looking car, but I wouldn't buy one myself.

Ya, I test drove a Tribute about 7 months ago too and decided against it.  The ride was actually decent but I felt there was something cheap about it.  It gets some average - poor reviews from what I saw.  Got a bad vibe from the dealership as well.  I ultimately decided on a 2007 Limited Rav 4 and haven't had a single issue.  I also have a 2001 Celica that's literally never had a major problem, 250+K on it...Toyota >>> Mazda from my experience.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 14, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
My parents just bought a 2010 Tribute. Never driven. It has less than 7000km on it, and they are already having problems. I drove it a few times and I felt it was very sluggish on acceleration, but I'm not sure if that's just a characteristic of the car or not. It also felt like there were transmission problems. Nice looking car, but I wouldn't buy one myself.

Ya, I test drove a Tribute about 7 months ago too and decided against it.  The ride was actually decent but I felt there was something cheap about it.  It gets some average - poor reviews from what I saw.  Got a bad vibe from the dealership as well.  I ultimately decided on a 2007 Limited Rav 4 and haven't had a single issue.  I also have a 2001 Celica that's literally never had a major problem, 250+K on it...Toyota >>> Mazda from my experience.

Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Manson on June 14, 2012, 04:15:59 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

All depends what you're looking for I suppose.  The 1/4 mile speed of my Rav 4 really didn't come into the equation for me.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on June 14, 2012, 05:22:57 PM
My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota

Challenge accepted.  My corolla vs your lawnmower.  $10,000 stakes.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on June 14, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

All depends what you're looking for I suppose.  The 1/4 mile speed of my Rav 4 really didn't come into the equation for me.  :P

Same.  I just wanted a relatively cheap but highly reliable vehicle that could get me from A to B.  Corolla it is.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 14, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 14, 2012, 06:55:22 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

All depends what you're looking for I suppose.  The 1/4 mile speed of my Rav 4 really didn't come into the equation for me.  :P

Yup. Living in a part of the world where going significantly faster than 100 km/h can get you into a lot of unnecessary trouble and, generally, there aren't a lot of day to day opportunities to go significantly north of 60 km/h, things like fuel efficiency and reliability become so much more important than speed. I'm quite happy with my Toyota, thank you very much. 15 years old and still running strong.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2012, 07:12:33 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

2012 Mustang GT  $37K MSRP

Horsepower (hp @ rpm)   412 @ 6,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)   390 @ 4,250
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)   13.0 @110.6
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Dappleganger on June 14, 2012, 07:20:03 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

2012 Mustang GT  $37K MSRP

Horsepower (hp @ rpm)   412 @ 6,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)   390 @ 4,250
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)   13.0 @110.6

Go around a corner and tell me how fast a Mustang GT goes. Are they still using a live rear axle on those things?
 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Frank E on June 14, 2012, 07:45:05 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

2012 Mustang GT  $37K MSRP

Horsepower (hp @ rpm)   412 @ 6,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)   390 @ 4,250
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)   13.0 @110.6

Go around a corner and tell me how fast a Mustang GT goes. Are they still using a live rear axle on those things?

You really need to check into how well Ford has engineered that platform.  It's quite amazing.  They're now building a 200mph Mustang off that platform. 

Having said that, the 2015 car is supposed to, for the first time, have an independent rear suspension. 

I get sucked into these car conversations....and Toyota is awesome...read up on the Scion FR-S.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

2012 Mustang GT  $37K MSRP

Horsepower (hp @ rpm)   412 @ 6,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)   390 @ 4,250
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)   13.0 @110.6

Go around a corner and tell me how fast a Mustang GT goes. Are they still using a live rear axle on those things?

Skidpad

2012 Mustang GT - Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g
2011 Impreza WRX STI Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 14, 2012, 08:23:06 PM
Guys - I don't want to embarrass you but your small genitals are showing.
:D
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on June 14, 2012, 08:33:05 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 14, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
I have no interest in the 1/4 mile. Boring.

I've modded my car a little. Cobb sri, Cobb springs, Koni yellows, Tri-Point rear sway bar, vip rg2 rims, Falken 452's / 235-40-18 tires. Handles like its on Rails. My Ms3 will outperform vehicles that are way more expensive. I pay $350 a month... Probably the same as most people pay for a boring car that can't pass at highway speeds.   

To each their own :-)
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 14, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

2012 Mustang GT  $37K MSRP

Horsepower (hp @ rpm)   412 @ 6,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)   390 @ 4,250
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)   13.0 @110.6

I had to go check that out, because there is no way you are walking out of a dealership with that for under 40k...

Ok... Again, bang for the buck. With 0 down and 5.79% interest rate (lol), for 60 months, $722 a month for the stang and I'm sure there are things that the website doesn't show in respect to more money it will cost.

I put down $8500 on my car (almost 5 yrs ago, before car manufacturers hit a low and are offering all these incentives!), I'm paying $352/month. That stang would be about $550/month (roughly, with 8500 down, not including any othe fees not shown on the site) and that's base model. My MS3 is fully loaded. The stang has 390ft lbs of torque @ 4250rpm, only 90 more then my car which produces it at 3000rpm, the stang also weighs a little more then the ms3.

On the track (road track, not 1/4 mile), bang for the buck (hp/tq to $$), resale value, cargo space etc.... ms3 every day (imho).
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 14, 2012, 09:38:32 PM
Toyota may make reliable vehicles, however, they are the most boring, pedestrian vehicles made. My lawnmower is faster than any Toyota.... My MS3 is currently rocking 275 HP and 300 foot pounds of torque... Mazda FTW. I don't think there is a stock car out there for under $45k - $50k that can beat my vehicle (or any other MS3) on the track.

Subaru STi = 305 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K
Mitsubishi Evo = 291 HP / 300 ft.lb torque; for $42K

Quarter mile times:
Mazda Speed3: 14.8 s
Subaru STi: 13.8 s
Mitsubishi Evo: 14.5 s

Again, go to the dealer and try and get that price, by the time u add the freight, pdi, taxes, interest rate etc.... they are 50k cars, trust me, I know, I almost bought both.

The evo is my fav, then STi. One day.... One day...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 14, 2012, 10:29:56 PM
Oh yeah? I challenge anybody to either an empty milk/juice box or floor (french) fry competition.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Andy on June 15, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
We bought a 2007 Mazda5 about 4 months ago.  The last two weeks we've really noticed it's going through oil.

Today is the second time in 2 weeks that it's in the Mazda dealership.  It's starting to look like engine replacement.  It's not a leak, it's not going into the coolant, it the compression is fine.  They're running more tests this afternoon.   UGHHH!

I've had some frustrating ongoing problems with a Mazda (Tribute) I bought a few years back myself, starting the same year I got it (2009).
Things like Dome light issues, windshield wiper malfunctions, engine not turning on, brake pedal gyrations; pretty much a cornucopia of neverending problems.
In short; Mazda is awful. :(



From the sounds of it, you guys both bought used vehicles, who knows what the owner before you did to those vehicles, if they were maintaned well etc... Any used car can have problems, especially once the warranty is up.  That's the chance you take with buying used, one reason I only buy new vehicles.

Nope got it brand spanking new from the factory. Have had continuous problems since inception, all the way through and past warranty.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 15, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
We bought a 2007 Mazda5 about 4 months ago.  The last two weeks we've really noticed it's going through oil.

Today is the second time in 2 weeks that it's in the Mazda dealership.  It's starting to look like engine replacement.  It's not a leak, it's not going into the coolant, it the compression is fine.  They're running more tests this afternoon.   UGHHH!

I've had some frustrating ongoing problems with a Mazda (Tribute) I bought a few years back myself, starting the same year I got it (2009).
Things like Dome light issues, windshield wiper malfunctions, engine not turning on, brake pedal gyrations; pretty much a cornucopia of neverending problems.
In short; Mazda is awful. :(



From the sounds of it, you guys both bought used vehicles, who knows what the owner before you did to those vehicles, if they were maintaned well etc... Any used car can have problems, especially once the warranty is up.  That's the chance you take with buying used, one reason I only buy new vehicles.

Nope got it brand spanking new from the factory. Have had continuous problems since inception, all the way through and past warranty.

Huh, maybe just a lemon? Have they at least covered all the problem under warranty?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on June 15, 2012, 03:52:15 PM
Scion FR-S

Really, really, really WANT!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: AvroArrow on June 15, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
can't pass at highway speeds.   

Really?  Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on?  I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.
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Post by: leafsjunkie on June 15, 2012, 04:26:48 PM
can't pass at highway speeds.   

Really?  Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on?  I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.

I owned a civic Si for 10 years before my ms3, I think you would agree a Civic Si is faster and has more power than a corolla.... I would have to gear down to 4th and rev the crap out of it to pass people with any kind of gusto, in 5th gear at 120km/hr you can't just push the gas and get to a reasonable speed to pass unless you want to pass very slowly. Those vehicles typically have around 120hp @ 6000rpm or greater. My GF has a accent sport with 110hp, which I would imagine is close to a corolla's power and no, you can't pass safely or quickly at highway speeds, it takes 10 seconds to hammer the gas and get the momentum going.

My vehicle, 6 speed manual. I hit the gas and your head hits the head rest, it also gets great gas milage. I get 400 - 600km per tank of gas, depending on highway/city driving and the amount of time I spend in turbo boost (my vehicle has guages that keep track of how many litres/km and my vehicles avg is 9.6L/100km since I got it). I driven from Markham to Montreal in the past and still didn't use my whole tank.

So to have 275hp, 300ft lbs tq, good gas milage, cheap Insurance (only pay just over $100/month), lots of cargo space, good resale value and pay a little more then your basic vehicle and a lot less than STi or Evo (which are alot worse on gas and Insurance cost) and have that kind of performance, I dunno, seems like a win/win to me. I know for a fact that cars like a stang or EVO or STi, from a dig will beat my vehicle in the 1/4 mile, but on a road track or from a rolling start, the MS3 catches and passes those vehicles. I've seen it. Both the EVO and STi are 5 speeds, not 6 speed, they don't have the top end.

Again, to each their own, but personally I could never own a Toyota or Honda (again). Not enough power. And Toyota is not that cheap, by the time you get a corolla nicely equipped I bet you are in the lower to mid twenties at least, even more if you want the 's' package. I got my car for $24,900 (yes I got an awesome deal) and will run cicles around the 's', not even a challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 15, 2012, 08:38:14 PM
I guess it's all about context. A few years ago I owned an '88 Dodge Aries (K-car.) I passed people all the time.

Not everybody is interested in having their heads whip back into the headrest.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Frank E on June 15, 2012, 08:49:20 PM
can't pass at highway speeds.   

Really?  Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on?  I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.

I owned a civic Si for 10 years before my ms3, I think you would agree a Civic Si is faster and has more power than a corolla.... I would have to gear down to 4th and rev the crap out of it to pass people with any kind of gusto, in 5th gear at 120km/hr you can't just push the gas and get to a reasonable speed to pass unless you want to pass very slowly. Those vehicles typically have around 120hp @ 6000rpm or greater. My GF has a accent sport with 110hp, which I would imagine is close to a corolla's power and no, you can't pass safely or quickly at highway speeds, it takes 10 seconds to hammer the gas and get the momentum going.

My vehicle, 6 speed manual. I hit the gas and your head hits the head rest, it also gets great gas milage. I get 400 - 600km per tank of gas, depending on highway/city driving and the amount of time I spend in turbo boost (my vehicle has guages that keep track of how many litres/km and my vehicles avg is 9.6L/100km since I got it). I driven from Markham to Montreal in the past and still didn't use my whole tank.

So to have 275hp, 300ft lbs tq, good gas milage, cheap Insurance (only pay just over $100/month), lots of cargo space, good resale value and pay a little more then your basic vehicle and a lot less than STi or Evo (which are alot worse on gas and Insurance cost) and have that kind of performance, I dunno, seems like a win/win to me. I know for a fact that cars like a stang or EVO or STi, from a dig will beat my vehicle in the 1/4 mile, but on a road track or from a rolling start, the MS3 catches and passes those vehicles. I've seen it. Both the EVO and STi are 5 speeds, not 6 speed, they don't have the top end.

Again, to each their own, but personally I could never own a Toyota or Honda (again). Not enough power. And Toyota is not that cheap, by the time you get a corolla nicely equipped I bet you are in the lower to mid twenties at least, even more if you want the 's' package. I got my car for $24,900 (yes I got an awesome deal) and will run cicles around the 's', not even a challenge.

Just so that you guys know, this guy doesn't know shit. 

And for those of you that think fuel consumption has anything to do with the size of your tank...take a science class.   
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 15, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
can't pass at highway speeds.   

Really?  Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on?  I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.

Yeah. I mean, for a car that can't pass at highway speeds, my Camry gets up to 140-150 without much of an issue. Weird, right?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 15, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
Yes I don't know sh--... Aren't you a toyota salesman or something....

I never said anything about the size of a gas tank. I simply stated the litres per 100km my vehicle has averaged since I got it and for the power it has it's pretty good on fuel. Thanks for the advice though.

Not everyone cares about what they drive, just get from a to b. I get it. I happen to want to enjoy my drive.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
Oh yeah? I challenge anybody to either an empty milk/juice box or floor (french) fry competition.  :P

Mini-van vs. Mini-Van for pinks!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on June 16, 2012, 03:11:19 AM
Yes I don't know sh--... Aren't you a toyota salesman or something....

I never said anything about the size of a gas tank. I simply stated the litres per 100km my vehicle has averaged since I got it and for the power it has it's pretty good on fuel. Thanks for the advice though.

Not everyone cares about what they drive, just get from a to b. I get it. I happen to want to enjoy my drive.

TBH, I think why there seems to be some backlash here is that to some extent you're trying to shove your view on cars on people's throats. Its not about enjoying or not enjoying the ride - I know lots of people who enjoy driving cars that aren't necessarily powerful. Point A to Point B'ers don't want to be in a misery the whole way while driving, its just what makes them happy is different from what makes you happy - low cost, reliability, gas mileage etc. Believe it or not people who have cars just to get around usually have more criteria than just "I NEED A CAR THAT MOVES."
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on June 16, 2012, 03:12:31 AM
Trying to go to sleep without much success due to a cold bug (in June!!). I just had a hacking fit due to chest congestion and now I'm wired. I work tomorrow and have to get up for 7am. BLAARGHH. I'm thinking about just calling in.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: leafsjunkie on June 16, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
Yes I don't know sh--... Aren't you a toyota salesman or something....

I never said anything about the size of a gas tank. I simply stated the litres per 100km my vehicle has averaged since I got it and for the power it has it's pretty good on fuel. Thanks for the advice though.

Not everyone cares about what they drive, just get from a to b. I get it. I happen to want to enjoy my drive.

TBH, I think why there seems to be some backlash here is that to some extent you're trying to shove your view on cars on people's throats. Its not about enjoying or not enjoying the ride - I know lots of people who enjoy driving cars that aren't necessarily powerful. Point A to Point B'ers don't want to be in a misery the whole way while driving, its just what makes them happy is different from what makes you happy - low cost, reliability, gas mileage etc. Believe it or not people who have cars just to get around usually have more criteria than just "I NEED A CAR THAT MOVES."


Fair enough, I wasnt trying to come across like that. So apologies to anyone I may have offended.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bates on June 16, 2012, 09:20:34 AM
A wise friend of mine was chatting with me years ago after he purchased an old Triumph and I had bought a Toyote Supra.  I was bragging about how fast and how much power my Supra had and kinda making fun of his Triumph.  He said to me "you know the rush you get flying along at 160 kms per hour"?  I answered brightly yeah.  He then offered up, well I get that rush at 60 kms per hour. And without worrying about tickets.  Made me feel a little silly and put it all in perspective.  This discussion kinda makes me feel the same way.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on June 16, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
A wise friend of mine was chatting with me years ago after he purchased an old Triumph and I had bought a Toyote Supra.  I was bragging about how fast and how much power my Supra had and kinda making fun of his Triumph.  He said to me "you know the rush you get flying along at 160 kms per hour"?  I answered brightly yeah.  He then offered up, well I get that rush at 60 kms per hour. And without worrying about tickets.  Made me feel a little silly and put it all in perspective.  This discussion kinda makes me feel the same way.

Yeah, and he also gets all the risks associated with that "rush" as well.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on June 16, 2012, 05:46:09 PM
I get sucked into these car conversations....and Toyota is awesome...read up on the Scion FR-S.

Love the new Scion FR-S. Looking forward to test driving one at the Subaru dealership.

Good video here comparing it to a Mustang (of the Subaru BRZ model):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pD3hgleEOXA&feature=endscreen
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 18, 2012, 01:00:57 AM
I can't believe the Globe & Mail pays Bruce Dowbiggin to write what he does.  I truly dislike almost every article he writes, and just perused his tweets, and he likes to insult Leafs fans too.  Seals it.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 18, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
With this nice weather, I wouldn't mind having a nice little Chrysler 200 convertible to scoot around with the whole family too but really, is it anywhere that nice of a car to park diagonally across two parking spots? I mean, 'cmon! I'd have liked to have asked the lady with the shades much too big for her face who parked her car that way if it's always sunny in doucheville. 
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 20, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
Someone was shot in the park around the corner from my apartment last night. Not cool, guys. Not cool at all.

So, I ran into my neighbour earlier this evening, and, as it turns out, the perpetrator used to live in my apartment and the cops had, at one point, tried to look into my place from her balcony.
Title: Re: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on June 20, 2012, 11:02:18 PM
Someone was shot in the park around the corner from my apartment last night. Not cool, guys. Not cool at all.

So, I ran into my neighbour earlier this evening, and, as it turns out, the perpetrator used to live in my apartment and the cops had, at one point, tried to look into my place from her balcony.

That's just beyond creepy
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on June 20, 2012, 11:15:02 PM
Just for piece of mind busta, I can see into your place from her balcony.  Observation: Tie up your robe.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: bustaheims on June 20, 2012, 11:43:24 PM
Just for piece of mind busta, I can see into your place from her balcony.  Observation: Tie up your robe.

That was one time! Conveniently, the only time I wore the robe. :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: moon111 on June 21, 2012, 05:59:14 AM
If the police were so concerned about your place and didn't come to your door, then obviously you're a suspect/person of interest and not a witness.  I wouldn't worry.  Just because they put 'Possible links to organized crime.' in your file doesn't prove anything.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Rick Couchman on June 22, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
If the police were so concerned about your place and didn't come to your door, then obviously you're a suspect/person of interest and not a witness.  I wouldn't worry.  Just because they put 'Possible links to organized crime.' in your file doesn't prove anything.

....But it ensures a pretty rigorous cavity search at customs when crossing the border...

Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on June 22, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
Kept getting an error while trying to access the forums :(
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Post by: Rick Couchman on June 22, 2012, 09:29:18 PM
Kept getting an error while trying to access the forums :(

Sorry - it's a server issue.  Been trying to work through it...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Kessel Run on June 23, 2012, 12:01:07 AM
can't pass at highway speeds.   

Really?  Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on?  I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.

Both the EVO and STi are 5 speeds, not 6 speed, they don't have the top end.


This is wrong. STi is 100% a 6 speed, and give me AWD any day over FWD. Personally I can't take any performance car seriously that is FWD. You're asking too much of the front wheels. Steering, power, handling, all at the same time.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: L K on June 24, 2012, 08:34:33 AM
I know I have it way easier than my predecessors in terms of hours worked per week but I just got off a 36 hour shift so I would like to thank the wonderful person living next door who decided to leave their howling dogs out in their backyard.  Greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on June 24, 2012, 08:38:55 AM
I thought I had it rough with 16 hour shifts. That's rough, man.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: LittleHockeyFan on June 24, 2012, 04:18:32 PM
I know I have it way easier than my predecessors in terms of hours worked per week but I just got off a 36 hour shift so I would like to thank the wonderful person living next door who decided to leave their howling dogs out in their backyard.  Greatly appreciated.

I am willing to bet the dogs don't appreciate being left out in the backyard either. :-(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Nik Bethune on July 04, 2012, 10:26:03 PM

The 4th of July Hot Dog eating competition in New York. I know a lot of people have complained that it's an obscene display of gluttony in this world where there are still people go hungry but that's not my issue. I like eating contests. I once bet a fraternity brother I could eat 75 pieces of sushi in one sitting and the resulting attempt was one of the greatest nights of drunken foolishness of my life.

The problem with the hot dog stuff though, I mean, it's not even eating.  They're just cramming food into their mouths as quickly as possible. They dunk the hot dogs in water so they slide down quicker and eat them undressed. That's just a waste of food. Those are good Nathan's Hot Dogs. They could be Classic Coneys.

It's just perverse.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Potvin29 on July 07, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
The people who assaulted this guy.

Was just sent this link by someone.  Maybe some of you Torontonians can help out:

http://www.justicefordan.ca/
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on July 07, 2012, 11:11:26 AM
That's terrible.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bleeding Blue & White on July 07, 2012, 05:41:12 PM
I tried asking my ex if she wanted to be friends, big mistake. She majorly shit on my parade.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on July 18, 2012, 10:52:17 AM
What are the odds of getting a vicious little head cold on the hottest evening of the year?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bender on July 19, 2012, 03:14:13 AM
Kinda random.... but I am complaining because i am going through another tough time right now. Is this the  place to post it?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: BMan on July 19, 2012, 03:38:57 AM
Kinda random.... but I am complaining because i am going through another tough time right now. Is this the  place to post it?

Go ahead moan away if it makes you feel better..What's going on now?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on August 01, 2012, 05:16:52 PM

While changing the toilet paper roll in the bathroom I accidentally dropped the brand new one into the toilet. I hate when that happens.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on August 01, 2012, 06:25:08 PM

While changing the toilet paper roll in the bathroom I accidentally dropped the brand new one into the toilet. I hate when that happens.

Public / office bathroom or at home?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: TheMightyOdin on August 02, 2012, 04:03:38 AM

While changing the toilet paper roll in the bathroom I accidentally dropped the brand new one into the toilet. I hate when that happens.

Public / office bathroom or at home?

Home bowl.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Ronco on August 02, 2012, 06:38:03 AM
My complaint is 12 hour night shifts.
3 and one off and then 3 more.

7 to 7.

Plus i have a woman who is a hoarder, and lives in the office.
I pass her desk at 12:30 am, and she's still there.

She could retire but is sucking the gov't teat till the bitter end.
Sucks to work!!!
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on August 02, 2012, 07:52:32 AM

While changing the toilet paper roll in the bathroom I accidentally dropped the brand new one into the toilet. I hate when that happens.

Public / office bathroom or at home?

Home bowl.

Partisan crowd
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: No.92 on August 02, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
I tried asking my ex if she wanted to be friends, big mistake. She majorly crap on my parade.

I'm curious so I had to ask.  What did she say?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 02, 2012, 02:55:52 PM
We need rain pretty seriously, ran the prime out of my well pump in under 4 minutes... soapy haired and swearing while I broke out the large wrenches.

To top it off the main valve hasn't been moved in a while, bent the handle trying to close it off and re-prime the line, grumble grumble...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 02, 2012, 04:10:26 PM
...and after successfully re-priming the line ( with much more grumbling ) I find that in my zealous approach to fixing the valve handle I've cracked the main coupling before the line to the house. Yeah, it was old and probably would have needed replacing soon anyways from the look of it, but fml... looks like I'll be spending a day or two replacing most of the lines, and the coupling is halfway into a cement wall...
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Corn Flake on August 02, 2012, 04:41:37 PM
Yikes. You are living out my worst nightmare since I moved to the country... well dun gone dry or pump blowed up. 

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Post by: Tigger on August 02, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
Yikes. You are living out my worst nightmare since I moved to the country... well dun gone dry or pump blowed up. 

Yeah, it's a concern for sure. To be fair, I could have done a little better with my preventative maintenance but that's only the third crappy plumbing issue I've had to deal with in 17 years here.

Once had the mainline break coming through the basement wall ( in December, digging ground like chipping chocolate, though not all six feet down ) and once had to replace the foot valve at the bottom of the line ( 30 ft ), pulling that out tested my swearing vocabulary pretty fair.

It is handy to have a few plumbing notches in your belt though, paying for that labour is crazy expensive.

Edit to add, yeah, well going dry is also a bad feeling, have only had that happen once before when I first moved in, similar dry summer.

I'm seriously contemplating dumping a whack of plumbers goop on the coupling and forgetting about it for a while, at least until I can get a real honest to goodness free couple days 'cause the cement around it isn't going anywhere easily and I've already filled the swear jar.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Bullfrog on August 02, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
..but that's only the third crappy plumbing issue I've had to deal with in 17 years here.

I hope that was only a pun, 'cause that would suck.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Tigger on August 02, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
..but that's only the third crappy plumbing issue I've had to deal with in 17 years here.

I hope that was only a pun, 'cause that would suck.  :P

Now that you mention it, that was probably subliminal on my part, I have been thinking about replacing the mainline from the upstairs bathroom so, yeah... :) ... :'(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Madferret on August 02, 2012, 09:04:49 PM
Canada Post is brutal
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Joe S. on August 03, 2012, 10:30:03 AM
The mystery of Friday of a long weekend traffic... Roads are empty on the way into work, roads are chaos going home.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 04, 2012, 11:11:21 PM
Ugh, has anyone ever returned a rental car with a small dent in the rear corner panel? Someone must have dinged it with their door while I was at work. What can I expect them to make me pay?
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: Sarge on August 04, 2012, 11:43:13 PM
Family (my own and my extended.)  ::) Awesome weekend tainted by trivial B.S.  >:( :(
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on August 05, 2012, 01:17:34 AM
Ugh, has anyone ever returned a rental car with a small dent in the rear corner panel? Someone must have dinged it with their door while I was at work. What can I expect them to make me pay?
They always tell me beforehand that if there is anything wrong with the car on return they'll make a claim on my insurance and I'll pay the deductible and have a fault claim on my record.

I usually just take the $10 a day or so coverage they offer that protects you completely if anything like that happens.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: J-Ho Fan on August 05, 2012, 09:24:36 PM
Ugh, has anyone ever returned a rental car with a small dent in the rear corner panel? Someone must have dinged it with their door while I was at work. What can I expect them to make me pay?
They always tell me beforehand that if there is anything wrong with the car on return they'll make a claim on my insurance and I'll pay the deductible and have a fault claim on my record.

I usually just take the $10 a day or so coverage they offer that protects you completely if anything like that happens.

Im hoping to avoid an insurance claim, and maybe i can just pay them to have it fix. It would kill me to do though, because there are dents, scratches etc on the car that clearly they have never fixed. Im sure they charge people for the damage, then just pocket the money.

I should have taken the extra insurance, but to be honest i never thought about it. The car is being paid for by my insurance company as my car was rearended, and they didnt offer me the extra insurance.
Title: Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
Post by: sucka on August 05, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
Ugh, has anyone ever returned a rental car with a small dent in the rear corner panel? Someone must have dinged it with their door while I was at work. What can I expect them to make me pay?
They always tell me beforehand that if there is anything wrong with the car on return they'll make a claim on my insurance and I'll pay the deductible and have a fault claim on my record.

I usually just take the $10 a day or so coverage they offer that protects you completely if anything like that happens.

Im hoping to avoid an insurance claim, and maybe i can just pay them to have it fix. It would kill me to do though, because there are dents, scratches etc on the car that clearly they have never fixed. Im sure they charge people for the damage, then just pocket the money.

I should have taken the extra insurance, but to be honest i never thought about it. The car is being paid for by my insurance company as my car was rearended, and they didnt offer me the extra insurance.

As far as i know, you shouldnt have to worry.  unless its a massive punched in dent, but otherwise little stuff they wont call u out on it. 
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