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Title: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 02, 2013, 02:03:08 PM
From Andy Strickland:

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Mike Komisarek gave #Leafs a list of 12 teams he'd accept a trade to but I'm told he'd pretty much accept a trade anywhere. Wants to play

I used to trust Andy quite a bit, but he's thrown a lot of Leafs-related rumours out there and I don't think any of them have come true. Even if this one is accurate, it might be tough to find a suitor without taking on some salary or giving up a pick.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: BlueWhiteBlood on March 02, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
Even if the rumour is wrong, it pretty much sets things in motion IMO. It will become a big story in Toronto and reporters will ask about it until he's gone.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: BermudaBudsFan on March 02, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Not sure where I heard this, but my understanding was that he is required under the terms of his contract to submit a list of 12 teams at the start of the season in any event. If that is true, this is likely a non-story.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Sarge on March 02, 2013, 02:31:02 PM
It's something of a story there. He's basically (if the rumour is true) waving his limited NTC. However, I'm really not sure who would be interested... Maybe a team looking for depth this year who's also willing to use one of their compliance buyouts on him this summer?
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 02, 2013, 02:33:05 PM
Not sure where I heard this, but my understanding was that he is required under the terms of his contract to submit a list of 12 teams at the start of the season in any event. If that is true, this is likely a non-story.

A lot of the times when it's structured like that the list still isn't actually provided until one side wants a trade. Kind of awkward for a player who has a solid relationship with his team to tell them which other teams he would go to.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: #1PilarFan on March 02, 2013, 02:52:05 PM
Not sure where I heard this, but my understanding was that he is required under the terms of his contract to submit a list of 12 teams at the start of the season in any event. If that is true, this is likely a non-story.

A lot of the times when it's structured like that the list still isn't actually provided until one side wants a trade. Kind of awkward for a player who has a solid relationship with his team to tell them which other teams he would go to.

Nor would, I think, the team request it unless it looked like that player wasn't going to be of use to the team.

I can understand Komisarek's desire to be moved. Nothing wrong with wanting to play hockey.

However, does anyone want him?
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Nik on March 02, 2013, 02:54:23 PM

Does anyone doubt that if his contract was moveable he'd have been dealt a dozen times over by now?

I mean, I guess this might mean his agent is free to try and sell a GM on the idea but it's a little bit like Tiger Woods asking for a divorce at this point.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bustaheims on March 02, 2013, 03:16:56 PM
Does anyone doubt that if his contract was moveable he'd have been dealt a dozen times over by now?

I mean, I guess this might mean his agent is free to try and sell a GM on the idea but it's a little bit like Tiger Woods asking for a divorce at this point.

Yeah. The only realistic scenario in which Komisarek would garner trade interest from another team would be if the Leafs were to take back an equally bad contract - something like DiPietro's or Horcoff's - neither of which is a more appealing option to the Leafs than using a compliance buy-out on him in the summer, unless they're accompanied by something of significant value.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bakeapples on March 02, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
Feaster is still employed in Calgary so anything is possible LOL. They don't have any talent the Leafs would want but apparently Feaster likes to throw picks around.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Bates on March 02, 2013, 05:00:42 PM
He wouldn't be the first player to re-start his career in another place. I believe our current blue line features a couple guys who couldn't make in other teams.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: leafplasma on March 02, 2013, 10:22:05 PM
See this not panning out due to no dance partner.  He gets bought out in the summer and signs a contract on the cheap somewhere, much like Armstrong did.  Why not collect two paycheques next season.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: drummond on March 03, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
The only way the Leafs can trade Komisarek is to take similar contract back. Does not make sense from the Leafs perspective. If Komi wants to play, he can - in the Marlies. They sure can use some veteran presence.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Kaberle15 on March 03, 2013, 01:07:41 PM
I don't know...

Komi's salary this and next season is 3.5mi with a 4.5 cap hit. If the Leafs pay like 50% of that he might be tradeble, maybe in a package or something like that (not paying half salary for a low pick).

Also a couple of moves need to be made, as Frattin and Lupul are likelly to return in the next 2 weeks, as only Holzer can be send down without waivers (well, Kadri does too, but he won't).
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bakeapples on March 03, 2013, 02:53:50 PM
KOMISAREK DISCUSSES REPORT THAT HE WANTS TRADE FROM LEAFS

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417305
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on March 03, 2013, 03:11:05 PM
KOMISAREK DISCUSSES REPORT THAT HE WANTS TRADE FROM LEAFS

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417305

this all makes me feel a little bad for him..it must be somewhat hard to see your name only come up surrounded by negativity ..i know he gets a lot of money to sit in that press box..but this guy must be dying to play..people don't devote that much of their life to hockey just to want to sit in the stands...
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Dappleganger on March 03, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
One trade I'd do: Komisarek to the Islanders for DiPietro and a first.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bustaheims on March 03, 2013, 04:11:23 PM
One trade I'd do: Komisarek to the Islanders for DiPietro and a first.

I doubt the Islanders would, and I doubt the Leafs would either. It would cost a lot more to buy-out DiPietro, and that's assuming he doesn't hurt himself before the summer.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bustaheims on March 03, 2013, 04:13:04 PM
I don't know...

Komi's salary this and next season is 3.5mi with a 4.5 cap hit. If the Leafs pay like 50% of that he might be tradeble, maybe in a package or something like that (not paying half salary for a low pick).

That leaves the Leafs with a cap hit of $2.25M for a guy not on the team, with likely nothing worthwhile coming back in terms of assets instead of having zero cap hit after a compliance buy-out. That cap space is likely to be a more valuable asset than what Komisarek would return in this scenario.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Nik on March 03, 2013, 04:31:43 PM
One trade I'd do: Komisarek to the Islanders for DiPietro and a first.

I doubt the Islanders would, and I doubt the Leafs would either. It would cost a lot more to buy-out DiPietro, and that's assuming he doesn't hurt himself before the summer.

True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: bustaheims on March 03, 2013, 04:41:23 PM
True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.

Yeah. I mean, I certainly see the appeal, but I don't think MLSE would be all that happy about throwing that much money away on a player who won't play a single game for the team, and, well, as crazy as the Islanders are, they won't be moving that pick.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Dappleganger on March 03, 2013, 06:22:37 PM
True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.

Yeah. I mean, I certainly see the appeal, but I don't think MLSE would be all that happy about throwing that much money away on a player who won't play a single game for the team, and, well, as crazy as the Islanders are, they won't be moving that pick.

This is the same company that gave Alonzo Mourning 11m not to show up.

Why not spend 24m on an amnesty buyout for a first round pick?

It will never happen but I'd do it. I didn't take into consideration, as Bustaheims pointed out, if DiPietro got hurt before the end of the year but there's also a amnesty buyout in 2014.

Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: princedpw on March 03, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.

Yeah. I mean, I certainly see the appeal, but I don't think MLSE would be all that happy about throwing that much money away on a player who won't play a single game for the team, and, well, as crazy as the Islanders are, they won't be moving that pick.

This is the same company that gave Alonzo Mourning 11m not to show up.

Why not spend 24m on an amnesty buyout for a first round pick?

It will never happen but I'd do it. I didn't take into consideration, as Bustaheims pointed out, if DiPietro got hurt before the end of the year but there's also a amnesty buyout in 2014.

If this were the plan, the team would simply sit DiPietro and wouldn't play him after he passes his physical to validate the trade.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: sneakyray on March 04, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
so basically everything went downhill for komi with that ridiculous eye injury...he was in the lineup fairly regularly until then no?
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Zee on March 04, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
so basically everything went downhill for komi with that ridiculous eye injury...he was in the lineup fairly regularly until then no?

4 games only but yeah he was getting a look and wasn't hurting the team.  He never seemed to draw back into the lineup after that freak injury.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 24, 2013, 08:39:48 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Chev-boyar-sky on June 24, 2013, 08:51:04 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: KoHo on June 24, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Jalili on June 24, 2013, 09:21:50 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."

The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Deebo on June 24, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."

The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

I think people made that up.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Nik on June 24, 2013, 09:29:06 AM
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 24, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
 

Here is the breakdown:
http://www.capgeek.com/buyout-calculator/?player_id=72 (http://www.capgeek.com/buyout-calculator/?player_id=72):
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Corn Flake on June 24, 2013, 09:33:30 AM
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Jalili on June 24, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
I can't confirm that it was true but the story was that the Leafs mixed up his stats with another D-man on his team. I tended to believe it because the comments the Leafs were making about Finger were completely opposite of the type of player that he was, and actually described Sauer to a T.


True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.

Yeah, that was the story.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Nik on June 24, 2013, 09:56:08 AM
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's much to dispute that the Leafs severely over-valued Finger I just don't know how much that points to the idea that the offer was intended for Sauer. I mean, leaving aside the logistics of it for a second, in that article what Wilson says isn't attributable to Finger but it's not attributable to Sauer either. The offer didn't make sense for Finger but it didn't make sense for Sauer either(as the article notes, he didn't get a comparable offer anywhere near that and was coming off a pretty so-so season where he only played 54 games and did get less TOI than Finger). The Fletcher stuff doesn't look good but that sounds like just regular GM nonsense.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Britishbulldog on June 24, 2013, 12:02:23 PM
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.

I agree with you on this 100%.

One trade I'd do: Komisarek to the Islanders for DiPietro and a first.

Rats, I never read this thread before today and thought that I came up with a brilliant and unique concept when on June 15th I wrote:

The Leafs could bury Komisarek for 1 final year and STILL sign Clarkson, trade for Stewart, Bieska and Gudbranson (or re-sign Gunnarsson) with almost $3 MIL in cap space.  The players I re-signed I am pretty sure are within $0.5 MIL + or -.

One step further would be helping NYI's ownership by taking Dipietro's horrible contract in a trade like Dipietro and NYIs 2014 1st for Komisarek.  That would allow an additional $2 MIL forward to be signed  leaving $4 MIL in cap space.

Like I stated above, keeping $2 MIL of Komisarek's salary on the books by burying him would still allow $7.5 - $8.0 MIL AAV salary to sign 2 of Clarkson (to replace Frattin),  Clowe or Stewart; trade for Bieska $4.6 MIL in a buyout/trade deal as well as add Gudbranson or re-sign Gunnarsson.

That means the Leafs could keep up to $2 MIL of Komisarek's salary for next season in a trade for Dipietro and NYI's 1st pick and still have space to do a lot.
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: A Weekend at Bernier's on June 24, 2013, 01:15:22 PM
Bulldog, stop with Bieksa, PLEASE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Britishbulldog on June 25, 2013, 02:27:16 PM
Bulldog, stop with Bieksa, PLEASE!!!!!!!

Chris Stewart???
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: A Weekend at Bernier's on June 25, 2013, 02:31:47 PM
Bulldog, stop with Bieksa, PLEASE!!!!!!!

Chris Stewart???

Now you're talking!  ;D
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: Britishbulldog on June 25, 2013, 02:57:40 PM
Bulldog, stop with Bieksa, PLEASE!!!!!!!

Chris Stewart???

Now you're talking!  ;D

I was looking for an awesome high light video of Bieska on youtube to help convince you but I couldn't find one.   :(
Title: Re: Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade
Post by: LuncheonMeat on June 25, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
Bulldog, stop with Bieksa, PLEASE!!!!!!!

Chris Stewart???

Now you're talking!  ;D

I was looking for an awesome high light video of Bieska on youtube to help convince you but I couldn't find one.   :(

 ;D