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Title: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on October 31, 2012, 01:15:55 PM

Just thought I'd start an additional thread for all non-Raptors related NBA stuff.

The Schedule (http://www.nba.com/gameline/20121031/)

Lots of great storylines this year in what some are calling the most exciting basketball season in memory.  Can the Heat repeat with an improved bunch of shooters and a Lebron James without the pressure of people saying he can't win? What about the new look Lakers? Do the Celtics have one last shot? How soon will Derek Rose come back?

But largely, as per the title, this will be the place for Ern to give us Pacers updates. Personally, I'm excited to see if Gerald Green can build on last year's success and maybe even win the dunk contest.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on October 31, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
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Watched the Celtics-Heat last night.  Although the Celtics didn't win, I see the makings of a pretty good team (I know I'm not really reaching here).  Probably the best shot at knocking off the Heat in the East.  At this stage of their careers I think I'd take Terry over Allen.  I like Courtney Lee.  I like Jeff Green.  Barbosa is a scorer... they've improved their depth for sure. 

Was interesting to see such a high scoring game also.

As for the Pacers (thanks Nik, I was meaning to start a Pacers thread!) until I hear how long Danny's out for I am sort of in a haze.  Having your best player out "indefinitely" doesn't bode well for the season.  I love me some Gerald Green though!
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on October 31, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Warriors re-sign Steph Curry to a 4 year deal at $44M.  Just a shade under what Ty Lawson got.

For a dude that missed most of the year last year, and has been hameppered with the same injury this year in pre-season that's a pretty risky move. 

Warriors other "best player" Andrew Bogut is also recovering from an injury.  Could be a long year in Golden State (although, they have a pretty good bench).
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: #1PilarFan on October 31, 2012, 04:09:50 PM
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Watched the Celtics-Heat last night.  Although the Celtics didn't win, I see the makings of a pretty good team (I know I'm not really reaching here).  Probably the best shot at knocking off the Heat in the East.  At this stage of their careers I think I'd take Terry over Allen.  I like Courtney Lee.  I like Jeff Green.  Barbosa is a scorer... they've improved their depth for sure. 

Was interesting to see such a high scoring game also.

As for the Pacers (thanks Nik, I was meaning to start a Pacers thread!) until I hear how long Danny's out for I am sort of in a haze.  Having your best player out "indefinitely" doesn't bode well for the season.  I love me some Gerald Green though!
I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to call you out for incorrect usage of a meme.

I watched the Lakers/Mavs game last night, and I was surprised by what I saw to be a big difference in coaching. Lakers' defensive looked sloppy and slow and Mavs ball movement was really good. Obviously it's just one game and the Lakers will be the superior team over but it had me wondering if maybe they're not going to be as good as they look on paper. I mean, on paper, they look to me like the best team in the league (yes even better than the Heat in my opinion, in spite of the huge advantage the Heat have in James) if they can make it work.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on November 01, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
James Harden had one heck of a debut.

37 points, 12 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 steals.

I'm quite anxious to see what he can do now that he is the go-to guy. 
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on November 09, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
Mike Brown fired by the Lakers after just 5 games and a 1-4 record. Very surprised over how fast the Lakers panicked in the face of media criticism. As for candidates to replace Brown, the list includes Jeff Van Gundy, longtime Jazz head coach Jerry Sloan, former Knicks and Suns coach Mike D'Antoni, former Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy Sr. (who also coached the Lakers in the early 90's), former Blazers and Sonics coach Nate Macmillan, and even the legendary Phil Jackson (again).

Anyways, I'd be surprised if Mike D'Antoni didn't get the job. He's close with Kobe Bryant, and you'd be a fool to believe Kobe doesn't have a pretty big say in the next head coach. When Kobe lived in Italy while his dad was coaching in the Italian league Mike D'Antoni was Kobe's favourite player. Why do you think Kobe wears #8? Because D'Antoni wore #8. D'Antoni obviously has also coached Steve Nash before and the two were part of a perennial championship contending team in Phoenix. The two being reunited would liberate Nash from the "Princeton Offence" and let him play with the same flare he did in Phoenix. I think D'Antoni is a great fit right about now. I think he'll get the job.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: L K on November 09, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
I'm not surprised in the least.  What surprised me was that they hired him in the first place.  He's not a good coach.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on November 12, 2012, 09:28:51 AM

In a pretty big surprise, the Lakers have hired Mike D'Antoni to coach the team, choosing him over Phil Jackson who apparently was willing to come back.

Big gamble, it has to be said, but it should be fun as all get out watching this Lakers team play D'Antoni's offense.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on November 12, 2012, 04:14:26 PM
D'Antoni will do a good job with LA. People come down on him for NY, but he was dealing with a circus beyond his control over there and he DID restore that team to respectability after being bottom-feeders for years.

He had great success with Nash and he already has a great relationship with Kobe. He's the right man for the job.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on November 29, 2012, 08:52:51 PM
Pretty big story out of the NBA tonight.

San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich scratched Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Danny Green for tonight's game against Miami so they could rest up for Saturday's game. Tonight's game is an unbelievable 12th road game of the month for San Antonio and their 6th game in 8 nights. David Stern, furious with the decision considering the game is on national tv, said there would be "substantial sanctions" forthcoming.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2012/11/29/tim-duncan-tony-parker-manu-ginobili-danny-green-gregg-popovich-heat/1736221/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2012/11/29/tim-duncan-tony-parker-manu-ginobili-danny-green-gregg-popovich-heat/1736221/)

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This is crazy. I get that the team is burned out but doing this right in the middle of the season is unprecedented. This isn't the last week of the NFL season or the last Sunday of the NBA season for a team that's already clinched their spot. Popovich has balls for doing this, let me tell you.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Sarge on November 29, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Well, my first thought is hey, the NBA did up the schedule so...
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: L K on November 29, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
Good on Pop.  The Spurs are an old team.  They have an incredibly stupid schedule in November.  Stern can shove his ego up his tailpipe.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 29, 2012, 09:50:19 PM
Yeah I don't see how Stern could do anything about this. Fatigue seems like a legit enough reason to sit players. It's not like he was trying to intentionally lose the game or anything.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: seahawk on December 02, 2012, 12:11:43 AM
Spurs hit for 250k.

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=410665
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on December 02, 2012, 12:13:14 PM
Yeah I don't see how Stern could do anything about this. Fatigue seems like a legit enough reason to sit players. It's not like he was trying to intentionally lose the game or anything.

I think this is a case where it's not necessarily a situation where what Popovich did was wrong so much as how he did it. It was a nationally televised game between two of the league's best teams and Popovich had a bunch of options available to him that weren't coming out and publicly saying that he wasn't going to play most of his best players. He could have had them suit up and not play many minutes, he could have spaced out who he rested, he could have been subtle about it.

TV money, like it or not, drives the NBA and the NBA does have to look after that relationship. It may be an unwritten rule that you have to take each game seriously but that's because any rule would probably be a bad one. If a coach like Popovich publicly flouts it Stern either has to hammer him with a fine or pass what would probably be a rigid rule that really would take the option of resting players away. That considered it was probably the better decision.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on December 04, 2012, 08:41:41 PM

The Hornets will apparently be changing their name to the Pelicans which means the Bobcats may be changing their name back to the Hornets which means I may be buying another sweet Starter jacket.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on December 04, 2012, 08:47:28 PM
A lot of people don't like the name "Pelicans," but...

Yahoo! Sports, citing numerous sources, reports the team also considered Krewe and Brass as potential nicknames.

Pelicans is clearly the way to go out of these three.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on December 04, 2012, 08:58:48 PM
A lot of people don't like the name "Pelicans," but...

Yahoo! Sports, citing numerous sources, reports the team also considered Krewe and Brass as potential nicknames.

Pelicans is clearly the way to go out of these three.

I don't know. Given it's cultural significance I think Krewe is probably the best of the three names.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on December 04, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
A lot of people don't like the name "Pelicans," but...

Yahoo! Sports, citing numerous sources, reports the team also considered Krewe and Brass as potential nicknames.

Pelicans is clearly the way to go out of these three.

I don't know. Given it's cultural significance I think Krewe is probably the best of the three names.
Except nobody knows that Krewe means/is.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on December 04, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Except nobody knows that Krewe means/is.

Everyone in New Orleans would. So would anyone who's kind of familiar with the city and it's history.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on December 04, 2012, 09:39:35 PM
Except nobody knows that Krewe means/is.

Everyone in New Orleans would. So would anyone who's kind of familiar with the city and it's history.
It's a silly name. The majority of NBA fans wouldn't know what it means. Krewe?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on December 04, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
It's a silly name. The majority of NBA fans wouldn't know what it means. Krewe?

I think, though, that you primarily want to choose a name that appeals locally, especially in a gate driven league. Do most NBA fans know off hand what a Knickerbocker is? No, but it's got local significance. Choosing a mass appeal without local appeal name is how you get nonsense like the Raptors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krewe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krewe)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on January 21, 2013, 05:59:07 AM

It looks like the Maloofs have a deal in place to sell the Kings to Chris Hansen, who'll move the team to Seattle to become the new Sonics.

Deal in place to sell Kings to Hansen, move to Seattle (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8864092/sacramento-kings-owners-reach-agreement-seattle-group-buy-team)

It's kind of confusing though. The price being reported is 525 million, which seems like a ton for the team, but then it seems even crazier as it seems to only be for 65% of the team. It says in the article that the 525 million is based on the valuation of the entire franchise and includes relocation fees but I'm still not sure how much money is changing hands here.

It's significant as apparently Sacramento has a chance to put together a competitive bid to keep the team local but that's obviously an imposing total to try and match, even if it's only 65% of 525 million.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on January 21, 2013, 10:02:39 AM
Why exactly did the NBA "fail" in Seattle just a few short years ago?  And how will it change now?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on January 21, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
Why exactly did the NBA "fail" in Seattle just a few short years ago?  And how will it change now?

The NBA didn't really fail in Seattle. The Sonics just got bought by people who wanted to move the team to OKC. If there was an obstacle to the team staying put it was that the state and city wouldn't put up for a new building.

What's changed since then is that Hansen, the guy who looks to be buying the Kings, has reached an agreement with local government to build a new 500 million dollar arena.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: seahawk on January 21, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
Why exactly did the NBA "fail" in Seattle just a few short years ago?  And how will it change now?

There is a fresh ownership group involved this time. There is also the political will to build a new arena. That wasn't there in 2006 for the local owners headed by Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz or Clay Bennett and the new owners from OKC.  At that time, proposals were to either renovate the KeyArena or build a new arena.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on January 22, 2013, 06:53:47 PM
Not sure why there's a team in Sacramento anyways. The Sleep Train Arena (horrible name) looks like an office building from the outside:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Arco-2006-07-30.jpg)
(before it was renamed)

(http://www.cowbellkingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/power_balance_6.jpg)

Who the hell designed that thing!?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on January 22, 2013, 07:04:20 PM

...Does it really matter what a building looks like from the outside?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on January 22, 2013, 07:49:20 PM

...Does it really matter what a building looks like from the outside?
Would you want Toronto to have an arena that literally looks like it belongs in a business park off the QEW?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on January 22, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
Would you want Toronto to have an arena that literally looks like it belongs in a business park off the QEW?

I suppose that would depend on whether or not it was taxpayer funded and whether or not it was actually a good place to go and see a basketball game.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on January 23, 2013, 02:00:12 PM

Forbes came out with their NBA team valuations today. The Knicks top the list at 1.1 billion, followed by the Lakers at an even billion.

For those of you who occasionally wonder why the Raptors haven't made management changes in recent years, this may help. The Raptors, according to Forbes, were the 7th most profitable team in the league last year.

Here's the whole thing: http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/ (http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on January 23, 2013, 02:05:46 PM

Forbes came out with their NBA team valuations today. The Knicks top the list at 1.1 billion, followed by the Lakers at an even billion.

For those of you who occasionally wonder why the Raptors haven't made management changes in recent years, this may help. The Raptors, according to Forbes, were the 7th most profitable team in the league last year.

Here's the whole thing: http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/ (http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/)
The Raptors have done very well for a team that's been as bad as they are over the past few years. Of course, it helps having a whole country behind you rather than just a city/area like other teams. If the Raptors were actually a contender I have no doubt they would sell out every night.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 01, 2013, 06:46:34 AM

Well in the contest of which sport has the most messed up player's union seems that basketball has roared into the lead

Embattled NBAPA head placed on indefinite leave (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8904880/billy-hunter-head-nba-players-association-placed-indefinite-leave)

Allegations of nepotism, using union money to buy presents for executive committee members and more. Just yikes.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 10, 2013, 10:28:39 PM
In Lebron's last 5 games, all wins, Lebron has averaged 31 points, 6.8 rebounds, 6 assists, 1.4 steals on 71.4% shooting including 60% on three pointers. He's doing this despite resting a ton in the 4th quarter because the Heat are already up by so much.

I like Kevin Durant fine and everything but when Lebron's on his game he's head and shoulders above anyone else in the league.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on February 10, 2013, 10:34:45 PM

In Lebron's last 5 games, all wins, Lebron has averaged 31 points, 6.8 rebounds, 6 assists, 1.4 steals on 71.4% shooting including 60% on three pointers. He's doing this despite resting a ton in the 4th quarter because the Heat are already up by so much.

I like Kevin Durant fine and everything but when Lebron's on his game he's head and shoulders above anyone else in the leqague.
Yeah, I caught a bit of Miami-LA today and Lebron was just dominating. At halftime Magic Johnson said it was the best 5-game stretch he's ever seen anyone play (but no disrespected to Michael).
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 12, 2013, 09:59:49 PM

Well, Lebron did it again. First player in NBA history to have six straight games of 30 points and better than 60% shooting. 30 points on 11-15 shooting, 7-8 at the line, 9 assists, 6 boards, 3 steals, two monster blocks in the 4th and only one turnover.

Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on February 12, 2013, 10:04:37 PM

Well, Lebron did it again. First player in NBA history to have six straight games of 30 points and better than 60% shooting. 30 points on 11-15 shooting, 7-8 at the line, 9 assists, 6 boards, 3 steals, two monster blocks in the 4th and only one turnover.
And he did this:

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2158823/lebronzilla_medium.gif)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 12, 2013, 10:46:11 PM
And he did this:

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2158823/lebronzilla_medium.gif)

Yeah. It didn't count because they'd already called the blocking foul on the Blazers but it was impressive to see nontheless.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Peter D. on February 12, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
How legitimate would it be to consider LeBron the greatest ever in due time? Do the rings matter?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 12, 2013, 11:24:20 PM
How legitimate would it be to consider LeBron the greatest ever in due time? Do the rings matter?

I think it's two different conversations. I think if you're talking about who has had the greatest career of all time then he's probably got to have a couple more rings before he enters the conversation with Bird-Magic-MJ-Russell.

If, however, you're just talking about who's played the highest level of individual basketball then I think he's got to be in the conversation right now. I can't think of another player who has had the same sort of inside-outside offensive game and the ability to guard all five positions.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Justin on February 13, 2013, 03:33:29 PM
Hahahahaha why am I not surprised?

Turkoglu suspended 20 games for doping!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2013/02/13/hedo_turkoglu_orlando_magic_suspended/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2013/02/13/hedo_turkoglu_orlando_magic_suspended/)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on February 14, 2013, 04:38:27 AM
Leave it to Kevin Durant to explain...

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kevin-durant-sometimes-doesn-t-want-chuck-low-220357263--nba.html
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 15, 2013, 06:18:12 PM

I'm just liking Lebron more and more

Lebron: Wrong to base "greatness" on titles (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8952955/lebron-james-miami-heat-says-unfair-judge-players-based-titles-won)

Quote
"(Jordan) said he would take Kobe over me because ... five rings are better than one, and the last time he checked, five is better than one," James said. "At the end of the day, rings don't always define someone's career. If that's the case, then I'd sit up here and say I would take (Bill) Russell over Jordan. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't take Russell over Jordan. Russell has 11 rings, Jordan has six. I wouldn't do that."

and

Quote
"Jud Buechler has multiple rings. Charles Barkley doesn't have one ring. He's not better than Charles Barkely," James said of Buechler, who won titles alongside Jordan with the Bulls in the late 1990s. "Patrick Ewing is one of the greatest of all time. Reggie Miller is one of the greatest of all time. Sometimes, it's the situation you're in, the team you're (on) and the timing as well."

Amazing how many people can't grasp these simple concepts.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Sarge on February 15, 2013, 07:53:44 PM
And couple years ago, I was in the Bryant camp when the conversation came up. Now? I'm not even sure there is a conversation. I consider myself very lucky to have seen James play live a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on February 17, 2013, 04:52:55 AM
Wowza!!  Terrence Ross wins NBA All Star game Slam Dunk contest. 

And, to top it all off, he even wore a #15 Raptors Vince Carter jersey at one point.  (who hasn't forgotten the "Vin- sanity" when Carter himself was a Slam Dunk winner back then).

That last slam dunk-er by Ross was a gem!

Check it out here:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2013/02/16/shooting_stars_all_star_saturday/
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Dappleganger on February 18, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Lakers owner Jerry Buss died today.

In his 32 years of owning the team, they made the NBA Finals 16 times.

That is an amazing stat.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 18, 2013, 01:38:47 PM

He's with the 20 year old playboy models in heaven now.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on February 21, 2013, 03:17:17 PM

Well, it looks like the trade deadline came and went with out much happening. JJ Redick to the Bucks looks to be the biggest deal of the day.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Dappleganger on March 07, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
I don't think I've a dunk that better epitomizes 'Highlight Reel Dunk'.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jM8fTPjEOdk[/youtube]
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on March 10, 2013, 08:24:54 PM

After their disastrous start the Lakers are back in a playoff position after today's win over the Bulls. Realistically they could finish as high as 6th and figure to be a tricky first round opponent for anyone.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Andy on March 16, 2013, 09:59:57 AM
Amir Johnson with 21 rebounds last night in a win over the Bobcats.

Funny, Raps seem to win alot more without Bargnani in the lineup.
Title: And the first openly gay athlete in the 4 major sports is...
Post by: Nik on April 29, 2013, 12:20:59 PM
Jason Collins, back-up center for the Washington Wizards. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/?sct=hp_t11_a1&eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/?sct=hp_t11_a1&eref=sihp)

ESPN's front page story? Tim Tebow being released by the Jets. News!

edited because the SI piece is actually by Jason Collins about his decision to come out, far more worth reading.
Title: Re: And the first openly gay athlete in the 4 major sports is...
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on April 29, 2013, 12:27:17 PM

Jason Collins, back-up center for the Washington Wizards. 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9223657/jason-collins-first-openly-gay-active-player (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9223657/jason-collins-first-openly-gay-active-player)

Good for him, that's gotta take some guts.

(And your redundant url link made me chuckle.)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: lamajama on April 29, 2013, 06:15:04 PM
And TSN freezes a video screenshot of him in a clench with
another player.

Stay classy TSN.

http://www.tsn.ca/
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on April 29, 2013, 06:27:47 PM
And TSN freezes a video screenshot of him in a clench with
another player.

Stay classy TSN.

http://www.tsn.ca/

As of this moment, that's no longer the case for the photo.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on May 18, 2013, 01:51:08 PM

Well, in the wheel of name changes, the Kings won't become the Sonics, the Hornets will become the Pelicans and the Bobcats will become the Hornets.

And, somehow, the Raptors remain the Raptors.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: L K on May 18, 2013, 02:00:31 PM

Well, in the wheel of name changes, the Kings won't become the Sonics, the Hornets will become the Pelicans and the Bobcats will become the Hornets.

And, somehow, the Raptors remain the Raptors.

Are they going back to the cartoony blue Hornet?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on May 18, 2013, 02:08:37 PM
Are they going back to the cartoony blue Hornet?

They haven't announced anything officially, just that they're exploring it but given as everyone in the world wants them to and everyone hates the Bobcats...I'm calling it right now. Plus, it will give them the chance to sell these again:

(http://starterjackets.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hornetsjacket1.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: I'm sorry that happened to the Pacers, Ern
Post by: Nik on June 03, 2013, 11:21:07 PM

Yikes. That Lebron James is good at basketball.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: seahawk on June 13, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
After the saga that saw the Sacramento Kings get sold to local ownership instead of the Hansen/Ballmer group in Seattle, there are rumblings that there might be an expansion team headed to the Emerald City. This brings up an interesting situation. The NBA currently has 30 teams, you would have to expect that if expansion comes to Seattle, then there would be 1 more team added for the sake of divisional and scheduling balance. Now where would you place that team? No markets really jump out to me.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/sonics/2013/06/12/report-nba-chris-hansen-in-productive-talks-for-seattle-expansion-team/
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 13, 2013, 04:04:38 PM
After the saga that saw the Sacramento Kings get sold to local ownership instead of the Hansen/Ballmer group in Seattle, there are rumblings that there might be an expansion team headed to the Emerald City. This brings up an interesting situation. The NBA currently has 30 teams, you would have to expect that if expansion comes to Seattle, then there would be 1 more team added for the sake of divisional and scheduling balance. Now where would you place that team? No markets really jump out to me.

I think the answer would probably be found in the whole Kings saga anyway. The year before the Hansen/Ballmer group got involved the Maloofs were within inches of moving the Kings to Anaheim. Likewise, there were strong rumblings that an ownership group from Virginia Beach would be interested.

Anyways, one of the weird things about the NBA is that because they have a bunch of teams in markets that aren't typical markets like Sacramento, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and even Indianapolis there are quite a few markets out there that we all think of as big sports towns that don't have a NBA franchise. St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Cincinnati...there's quite a bit of potential there.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: seahawk on June 13, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
After the saga that saw the Sacramento Kings get sold to local ownership instead of the Hansen/Ballmer group in Seattle, there are rumblings that there might be an expansion team headed to the Emerald City. This brings up an interesting situation. The NBA currently has 30 teams, you would have to expect that if expansion comes to Seattle, then there would be 1 more team added for the sake of divisional and scheduling balance. Now where would you place that team? No markets really jump out to me.

I think the answer would probably be found in the whole Kings saga anyway. The year before the Hansen/Ballmer group got involved the Maloofs were within inches of moving the Kings to Anaheim. Likewise, there were strong rumblings that an ownership group from Virginia Beach would be interested.

Anyways, one of the weird things about the NBA is that because they have a bunch of teams in markets that aren't typical markets like Sacramento, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and even Indianapolis there are quite a few markets out there that we all think of as big sports towns that don't have a NBA franchise. St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Cincinnati...there's quite a bit of potential there.

I'd be very surprised to see a 3rd team put in the Greater LA area. St. Louis, KC, and Cincinnati have all had teams in the past so they would warrant some consideration. Now that I think about it, you could probably put Vancouver on the list as well, but I don't know if there is a potential ownership group.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 13, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
I'd be very surprised to see a 3rd team put in the Greater LA area. St. Louis, KC, and Cincinnati have all had teams in the past so they would warrant some consideration. Now that I think about it, you could probably put Vancouver on the list as well, but I don't know if there is a potential ownership group.

Well, surprise or no it did come very close to happening a year ago. It is worth mentioning that the Clippers/Lakers sell a ton of tickets at exorbitantly high prices so there's no evidence that the market there is over-saturated. Some people have mentioned a second Chicago team, going back into New Jersey...there really are a lot of options.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 19, 2013, 08:13:39 AM
Amazing game last night that's really just been the kicker to one of the craziest series in any sport that I can remember. It seems like every night, beyond the night in and night out excellence of Lebron James and Tim Duncan, the game has swung on the play of someone new playing lights out basketball, whether it's Wade or Parker or Bosh or Green or Allen or Ginobili. Game 7 should be an absolute classic.

But, in the meantime, Game 6 wasn't only a thriller but it's already produced one of my favourite pieces of sportswriting in a long, long time. From Josh Levin over at Slate about not just how amazing the end of the game was but also about how ridiculous it is that people try to construct larger narratives from such small, random things:

Seven Seconds in Heaven: (http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/06/_2013_nba_finals_game_6_ray_allen_s_three_pointer_revealed_everything_that.html)

Quote
Thereís plenty wrong with the NBA, from the excessive timeouts to the bad officiating to the incessant complaining about the bad officiating. But the most depressing thing by far is how we so easily put aside what makes basketball great in favor of dumb narratives based on the random spin of a ball on a rim. Pretty much every player on both teams oscillated between greatness and feebleness during Game 6. Duncan had 25 points in the first half and five the rest of the way. Parker made two spectacular shots in the fourth quarter, and was otherwise 4-21 from the field. LeBron pulled the Heat back from a 10-point fourth quarter deficit, then helped give the lead away with two late turnovers. He made a clutch three, and he missed a couple more. If youíre desperate to tell me how any of this cements his or anyone elseís legacy, Iíll be happy to pretend to listen.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 19, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
That was probably the best basketball game I've ever watched. Surely we're going to be seeing Game 6 on Hardwood Classics for years to come. As much as I would have loved for the Spurs to win, I'm still delighted there's going to be a game 7. One final chance to see basketball's two best teams go at it.

EDIT: Deadspin's photo diary of Ray Allen's shot is pretty awesome.

http://deadspin.com/ray-allens-shot-captured-in-photos-514271686 (http://deadspin.com/ray-allens-shot-captured-in-photos-514271686)

If anyone was going to make that shot I'm glad it was Ray Allen. I should have been pissed when the Heat tied it but instead I was somewhat mesmerized Allen actually made the shot. He OWNS the corner, and he's owned it for over 15 years. The NBA should put his name on it.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 19, 2013, 03:14:18 PM
Ray Allen on his incredible three-pointer in Game 6...

Ray Allen was talking about shooting, a skill that he has mastered arguably better than anyone who has ever played the game. Once you get Allen engaged on this topic he offers a fascinating insight into a thought process that has taken years to develop and hone through countless hours of repetition and practice.

"There's no target," he told me earlier in the series. "I don't aim. If I'm aiming that's when I'm missing. The way I look at it is just get the ball in the air. You do it over and over again you should never have a target."

...when the ball found his hands with the Heat's season...on the line, Allen did what he always does; he trusted his process and he trusted himself.

"Once the ball came off the rim, I just knew to get to the three-point line," Allen said. "We needed a three. Two points isn't going to cut it. So my mental checklist is really to have my legs ready and underneath me so when the ball comes, if it comes, I was ready to go in the air."

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/19/4444298/heat-vs-spurs-nba-finals-2013-game-6-ray-allen-lebron-james (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/19/4444298/heat-vs-spurs-nba-finals-2013-game-6-ray-allen-lebron-james)

Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Derk on June 20, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
I have a feeling game 7 won't be close and that Miami wins it easily.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 20, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
I have a feeling game 7 won't be close and that Miami wins it easily.
I certainly hope that's not the case. I'm kind of interested to see who steps up for San Antonio tonight - it's been a different player every win.

Game 6 was Duncan's baby, game 5 was Ginobili's resurgence, game 3 was the Danny Green show. Parker's been solid all series, averaging 16.7 points and 6.8 assists, but maybe it's time for him to put up 37 like he did in the Memphis elimination game. Either way, there's nothing I'd rather see than the best-run franchise in sports win the championship and leave Heat and their fans crying tonight.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 21, 2013, 12:08:02 AM
So down 3 games to 2, Lebron played two straight must win games. In those two games he averaged 34.5 points, 11 rebounds, 7.5 assists and 2.5 steals while playing 95 of a possible 101 minutes.

Just wow.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 21, 2013, 12:11:30 AM
So down 3 games to 2, Lebron played two straight must win games. In those two games he averaged 34.5 points, 11 rebounds, 7.5 assists and 2.5 steals while playing 95 of a possible 101 minutes.

Just wow.
He was in video game mode. Almost a guaranteed bucket. It was really something to watch.

Aside - Kawhi Leonard impressed me more than any other Spurs player these playoffs. He was remarkably consistent and played with the poise and maturity you don't expect from a 21 year old. He's going to be a great player very soon.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 21, 2013, 12:26:56 AM

Oh, and he also held Tony Parker to 9-35 shooting. His scoring average in game sevens is now 34.4, the highest of all time for anyone who has plated in at least 2. You know who was at 33.7.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 21, 2013, 12:28:31 AM
Aside - Kawhi Leonard impressed me more than any other Spurs player these playoffs. He was remarkably consistent and played with the poise and maturity you don't expect from a 21 year old. He's going to be a great player very soon.

I agree, he was terrific. I don't know where his career goes, I don't know if he'll ever be enough of a shot-creator to be a number 1 option for a team but he can definitely be an all-star.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: L K on June 21, 2013, 01:29:28 AM
Bosh on the other hand.  28 minutes.  0 points.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 21, 2013, 02:44:55 AM
LeBron James MVP.  Heat defeat Spurs 95-88.

Story:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/lebron-james-leads-miami-heat-over-san-antonio-spurs-in-game-7-to-win-second-straight-nba-title/

Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Derk on June 21, 2013, 07:53:12 AM
Too bad. I haven't really been rooting for the Heat. I know they were free agents, but I still don't like the idea about good to great players deciding to form a superteam to try and win a championship. It always seemed like a bit of a shortcut to me. It's a bit easier to try in basketball because you don't have as many players.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Peter D. on June 21, 2013, 09:14:02 AM
I wanted nothing more than to see Miami lose.  From Bosh's departure and his ego (great Game 7 buddy), the way the team came together, the "decision", the whole light and smoke show to introduce the big two and a half -- it's easy to have a serious dislike for them. 

However, it's fun and exciting to see LeBron evolving into one of the greatest basketball players of all time right before our eyes.

(I just wish Bosh wasn't coattailing along for the ride)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 21, 2013, 09:30:46 AM
As the ESPN guys said, Lebron has already proven he's a winner and the best player of his time. What's left for him is whether he can catch the all-time greats.

EDIT: And on that note, Nate Silver tries to quantify the statistical odds of James catching Jordan:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/lebrons-odds-of-catching-jordan/?_r=0 (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/lebrons-odds-of-catching-jordan/?_r=0)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 21, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
Thought this was kind of funny:

Drake got turned away from entering the Heat locker room by security.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8l_6jFZxjA[/youtube]

Until he promptly partied with the team until 5:30 AM.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/06/21/0621-miami-heat-party-05-480w.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 21, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
Too bad. I haven't really been rooting for the Heat. I know they were free agents, but I still don't like the idea about good to great players deciding to form a superteam to try and win a championship. It always seemed like a bit of a shortcut to me. It's a bit easier to try in basketball because you don't have as many players.

See, there are two things about that point of view that I just don't understand.

1. I assume you don't have a problem with a team trying to have the best players possible, right? I mean, Magic Johnson won his titles with HOFers on his team like Kareem and James Worthy, Jordan won his with Pippen and Rodman and Bird's Celtics were basically nothing but HOFers with Parish, McHale, Johnson...etc. So why is it worse or less competitive for great players to play together of their own accord than it is for a team's front office to randomly put them together? I mean, what we've seen from the Heat the last few years has kind of disproven the idea people had having Bosh-Wade-Lebron together would make titles easy, the salary cap has made them a top heavy team they've just been able to beat teams in tight series with more depth than they have(say, Indiana and San Antonio this year, Boston and OKC last year) 

2. Every year in practically every sport players sign with teams they feel will give them better chances of winning titles and say as much when they sign but they don't face the level of criticism that the guys on the Heat have. So why is it worse that three of them decided to do it with the same team in the same year? Is it just the idea of players acting in concert?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on June 21, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
Too bad. I haven't really been rooting for the Heat. I know they were free agents, but I still don't like the idea about good to great players deciding to form a superteam to try and win a championship. It always seemed like a bit of a shortcut to me. It's a bit easier to try in basketball because you don't have as many players.

See, there are two things about that point of view that I just don't understand.

1. I assume you don't have a problem with a team trying to have the best players possible, right? I mean, Magic Johnson won his titles with HOFers on his team like Kareem and James Worthy, Jordan won his with Pippen and Rodman and Bird's Celtics were basically nothing but HOFers with Parish, McHale, Johnson...etc. So why is it worse or less competitive for great players to play together of their own accord than it is for a team's front office to randomly put them together? I mean, what we've seen from the Heat the last few years has kind of disproven the idea people had having Bosh-Wade-Lebron together would make titles easy, the salary cap has made them a top heavy team they've just been able to beat teams in tight series with more depth than they have(say, Indiana and San Antonio this year, Boston and OKC last year) 

2. Every year in practically every sport players sign with teams they feel will give them better chances of winning titles and say as much when they sign but they don't face the level of criticism that the guys on the Heat have. So why is it worse that three of them decided to do it with the same team in the same year? Is it just the idea of players acting in concert?


Did Jordan, Bird, or Magic LEAVE their respective teams because they couldn't (up to that point) win a title with whoever they were playing alongside? 

I can't remember the exact quote (or even if it was Jordan or Magic who said it) but it basically went something like, "I could never picture myself joining Magic or Bird.  I wanted to play against them."  Something along those lines.

LBJ should have been the catalyst not the sheep following the herd.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 21, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Did Jordan, Bird, or Magic LEAVE their respective teams because they couldn't (up to that point) win a title with whoever they were playing alongside?

No, but that seems pretty implied by my question.  I'm asking why it's worse if the good team a player is on is a result of his own agency and decision as opposed to the decisions of others so saying "because they chose it" isn't really an answer. I mean, unless you're of the opinion that there's something inherently wrong with a player choosing to sign with another team.


I can't remember the exact quote (or even if it was Jordan or Magic who said it) but it basically went something like, "I could never picture myself joining Magic or Bird.  I wanted to play against them."  Something along those lines.

Ok, but there's a few problems with that quote from Jordan

1) In the years since his retirement Jordan has basically revealed himself to be a pretty big jerk who takes pot shots at everyone and anyone who he thinks slighted him in any way and is constantly making self-aggrandizing statements about how much better things were in his day.

2) It's an easy thing for Jordan to say considering that it's never a problem he faced. The Bulls did surround him with players that were a good enough supporting cast to win a title, including all-stars and hall-of-famers. Even if we accept that there's something questionable in what Lebron did, Jordan questioning it is like a kid with rich parents saying he'd never steal something.

3) The never quoted second half of that quote is, in part, "But that's ... things are different. I can't say that's a bad thing. It's an opportunity these kids have today."

LBJ should have been the catalyst not the sheep following the herd.

And he did that in Cleveland for 7 years, during which time they repeatedly failed to surround him with the sort of talent that could win a title. In his last year in Cleveland, the other starters on the team were Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, JJ Hickson and a 37 year old Shaquille O'Neal. I mean, compared to the starting five of James, Carlos Boozer, Ilgauskas, Eric Williams and Jeff McInnis you can argue that James' supporting cast was getting worse, not better.

I mean, when you say he should have been the catalyst...is there any doubt that's what he's become in Miami? That it's his team? That he's the one who'll take and hit the big shots with the game on the line? Why is that negated because of the way by which he joined the team? He's no less the leader or the guy on the Heat than Jordan was to the Bulls, Bird was for the Celtics or Johnson was for the Lakers and really, if you look at the titles that James won and his supporting cast vs. the titles those guys won and the strengths of their supporting casts? It's pretty easy to make an argument that James is more of a catalyst than those guys were.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 23, 2013, 06:31:58 PM

Looks like after some wrangling the Clippers have agreed to send a first round pick to the Celtics in exchange for getting to hire Doc Rivers on as coach.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-clips-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-clips-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources)

As the article says, a lot of people think that Rivers is Chris Paul's choice for coach and this will guarantee his re-signing so it's a good move from that perspective.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 27, 2013, 07:46:57 PM

In a pretty big surprise Toronto's Anthony Bennett just got drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers with the #1 pick in the NBA draft.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Dappleganger on June 27, 2013, 08:06:11 PM

In a pretty big surprise Toronto's Anthony Bennett just got drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers with the #1 pick in the NBA draft.

The mock drafters had this one all wrong so far.

Will it be Canadians back-to-back 1st overall selections with Wiggins next year?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 27, 2013, 09:08:47 PM
Will it be Canadians back-to-back 1st overall selections with Wiggins next year?

Seems like a safe bet. Good stretch for Canadian talent as Kelly Olynyk from Kamloops goes to the Celtics at 13. First draft with two Canadians going in the Lottery.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 27, 2013, 10:23:27 PM
The 2016 Rio Olympics is going to be good for Canadian basketball. There'll be some great young talent on the roster:

Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Kelly Olynyk
Tristan Thompson
(more)?
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 27, 2013, 10:32:47 PM
The 2016 Rio Olympics is going to be good for Canadian basketball. There'll be some great young talent on the roster:

Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Kelly Olynyk
Tristan Thompson
(more)?

Well, there's a lot of talk that Matt Bonner is trying to get his Canadian citizenship so he wear the Maple Leaf internationally.

Seriously though even though his stock has fallen Myck Kabongo, who is likely to get picked in the second round, should be on that team. Andrew Nicholson, last year's #19 pick too.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 27, 2013, 10:43:44 PM
The 2016 Rio Olympics is going to be good for Canadian basketball. There'll be some great young talent on the roster:

Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Kelly Olynyk
Tristan Thompson
(more)?

Well, there's a lot of talk that Matt Bonner is trying to get his Canadian citizenship so he wear the Maple Leaf internationally.

Seriously though even though his stock has fallen Myck Kabongo, who is likely to get picked in the second round, should be on that team. Andrew Nicholson, last year's #19 pick too.
Right. Them too.

Canada's not going to be up there with Spain and the US obviously, but if some of these young players turn out to be what people say they'll become, this team can do some damage.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 27, 2013, 11:06:48 PM

Pretty big trade just got announced. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Jason Terry to Brooklyn for Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans, Keith Bogans and three first round picks.

So the rebuild is in full-swing in Boston.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: KoHo on June 28, 2013, 09:43:33 AM

Pretty big trade just got announced. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Jason Terry to Brooklyn for Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans, Keith Bogans and three first round picks.

So the rebuild is in full-swing in Boston.
Pierce and Garnett replace Wallace and Evans in their starting 5.

Brook Lopez
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Joe Johnson
Deron Williams

Man oh man. That could be a VERY good team.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Erndog on June 28, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
Saw this today, thought it was interesting:

Comparison between the "leaders" of the current champs in the NHL and NBA.

In Jonathan Toews' Stanley Cup post-game speech, he said 'we' 14 times and 'I' 0 times.

In LeBron James' NBA title post-game speech, he said 'we' 0 times and 'I' 18 times.

Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on June 28, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
Saw this today, thought it was interesting:

Comparison between the "leaders" of the current champs in the NHL and NBA.

In Jonathan Toews' Stanley Cup post-game speech, he said 'we' 14 times and 'I' 0 times.

In LeBron James' NBA title post-game speech, he said 'we' 0 times and 'I' 18 times.

It is interesting. I mean, it's not true, but it is interesting that people are spreading this around and what that says about them. Here's the clip of Lebron's post game press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYypsZRGKSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYypsZRGKSI)

The very first question he gets asked is "Two things how does it feel to be a multiple champion and how does this compare to last year?"

This is his answer.

Quote
It feels great. This team is amazing and the vision that I had when I decided to come here is all coming true. Through adversity, through everything we've been through, we've been able to perservere and win back to back championships. It's an unbelievable feeling and I'm happy to be a part of such a world class organization.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Frank E on June 28, 2013, 02:49:50 PM
Saw this today, thought it was interesting:

Comparison between the "leaders" of the current champs in the NHL and NBA.

In Jonathan Toews' Stanley Cup post-game speech, he said 'we' 14 times and 'I' 0 times.

In LeBron James' NBA title post-game speech, he said 'we' 0 times and 'I' 18 times.

It is interesting. I mean, it's not true, but it is interesting that people are spreading this around and what that says about them. Here's the clip of Lebron's post game press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYypsZRGKSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYypsZRGKSI)

The very first question he gets asked is "Two things how does it feel to be a multiple champion and how does this compare to last year?"

This is his answer.

Quote
It feels great. This team is amazing and the vision that I had when I decided to come here is all coming true. Through adversity, through everything we've been through, we've been able to perservere and win back to back championships. It's an unbelievable feeling and I'm happy to be a part of such a world class organization.

Boom.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on July 05, 2013, 07:22:53 PM

Looks like it was a pretty busy day in the NBA too. Dwight Howard will go to the Rockets, Andre Iguodala to the Warriors.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on July 15, 2013, 05:32:14 AM
Blockbuster trade between the Celtics and the Nets.  To Brooklyn go Paul Pierce & Kevin Garnett, along with Jason Terry and D.J. White, while Brooklyn shipped Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Keith Bogans, Kris Joseph, MarShon Brooks along with three first round picks and some extra option.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/nba/story/2013/07/12/sp-nba-basketball-paul-pierce-kevin-garnett-traded-to-brooklyn-nets-boston-celtics.html

Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: Nik on July 18, 2013, 10:58:16 AM

Well, apparently with a simple majority vote today the rumoured name change of the Bobcats to the Hornets will be set for the 2014-2015 season.

I'm a little unsure of how to deal with this as it's a decision by Michael Jordan's ownership group that seems pretty smart.
Title: Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
Post by: hockeyfan1 on July 19, 2013, 08:29:39 AM
The Knicks Amar'e Stoudemire part of Canadian delegation at the 2013 Maccabi Games in Israel.  Assistant coach of the Canadian men's basketball team.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/grange-hebrew-roots-spark-stoudemire-into-coaching/.