Leafs @ Lightning - Dec. 29th, 7:30pm - SNO, Fan 590

[Bill_Berg_is_sad]

Also how is wanting another top five pick flawed? You can argue there are shorter routes to sustained winning, but getting another top five pick is not a flawed desire. And it's not greedy either. It's sports, there is no greedy for fans.

[TBLeafer]

Reality check time. Our D is getting pretty good as is.

Sure.

I'll let you do the work.

Starter or backup, how many goals were allowed this road trip?

How many shots allowed with Bibeau in net?

People are referring to this as cherry picking stats to support your claim that the Leafs defense is fine. When this is pointed out you start talking about a majorly flawed ideal that no one is talking about.

I didn't provide stats. So I didn't cherry pick and our defence IS improving.

You disagree?

Are you freaking serious? Now you're arguing that you're not trying to back up your claim with those numbers?

Get bent.

I just didn't look them up prior to posting. But thanks for legitimizing my theory.

I imagine that on average, the Leafs have been handily outshooting their opponents, which would support a theory that the defence isn't all that bad as made out by many and Andersen has said he can see the vast majority of his shots.

[TBLeafer]

Also how is wanting another top five pick flawed? You can argue there are shorter routes to sustained winning, but getting another top five pick is not a flawed desire. And it's not greedy either. It's sports, there is no greedy for fans.

It's flawed because the Leafs presently enjoy a winning culture that they're trying to build on.

[McGarnagle]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

[herman]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

Haha pretty much this.

[Frank E]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

You shut your mouth Hunwick lover.

[Nik]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

If nobody takes the bait pretty soon the entire place is nothing but worms.

[louisstamos]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

If nobody takes the bait pretty soon the entire place is nothing but worms.

[Tigger]

The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

True enough.

[Highlander]

Once on a while we seem to knaw on the same bone. With similar doggie effects.