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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #255 on: April 19, 2021, 01:06:14 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Could be interesting to see if that trio could outwork a loaded up McDavid/Draisaitl line in a playoff series. But yeah more generally speaking it's better to split some of that up.

God I hope Hyman is at least good for the playoffs.

I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #256 on: April 19, 2021, 01:07:50 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Could be interesting to see if that trio could outwork a loaded up McDavid/Draisaitl line in a playoff series. But yeah more generally speaking it's better to split some of that up.

God I hope Hyman is at least good for the playoffs.

I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...

They are on the west coast so it's only 10am there.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #257 on: April 19, 2021, 01:09:51 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Could be interesting to see if that trio could outwork a loaded up McDavid/Draisaitl line in a playoff series. But yeah more generally speaking it's better to split some of that up.

God I hope Hyman is at least good for the playoffs.

I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...
They're on the west coast so it could be at least another hour.
Oh and a big minus last night...changing the D partners. It wasn't good.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #258 on: April 19, 2021, 01:10:26 PM »
I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...

That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #259 on: April 19, 2021, 01:17:48 PM »
That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Also, the fact that he was around the team and not going for further medical evaluation also feels like a good sign. If they felt it was more serious, I have to imagine they would have needed to send him to a hospital to get the right tests completed, etc.
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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #260 on: April 19, 2021, 01:20:41 PM »
Kind of looked like he got hit above the knee (I'm just going from memory, haven't looked at the video recently). So it might just be a deep bruise, though of course even those can be serious injuries.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #261 on: April 19, 2021, 01:20:45 PM »
I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...

That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Yeah. Good spirits, and more importantly optimistic after the last nights game...

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/hyman-was-very-optimistic-in-leafs-room-after-scary-knee-on-knee-hit-tavares-says%7E2183672
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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #262 on: April 19, 2021, 01:21:53 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #263 on: April 19, 2021, 01:22:40 PM »
That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Also, the fact that he was around the team and not going for further medical evaluation also feels like a good sign. If they felt it was more serious, I have to imagine they would have needed to send him to a hospital to get the right tests completed, etc.
They may have done that already.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #264 on: April 19, 2021, 01:24:50 PM »

Either way, like I said regarding Matthews the other day, I'm ok with them being cautious here. Give him a few days.
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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #265 on: April 19, 2021, 01:37:35 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Could be interesting to see if that trio could outwork a loaded up McDavid/Draisaitl line in a playoff series. But yeah more generally speaking it's better to split some of that up.

I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).
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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #266 on: April 19, 2021, 01:42:33 PM »
I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

It would absolutely be a dump and chase line, and while that might not be the most optimal zone entry for most lines when you have the teams top two forecheckers (maybe two of the leagues best overall) a lot of pucks would get retrieved.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #267 on: April 19, 2021, 01:46:34 PM »
I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

It would absolutely be a dump and chase line, and while that might not be the most optimal zone entry for most lines when you have the teams top two forecheckers (maybe two of the leagues best overall) a lot of pucks would get retrieved.

Nothing wrong with have attacking lines with completely different styles (same thing with PP). Play predictably to execute better for your teammates, but set it up in a way that makes it harder for the defense to figure you out.

I kind of want a stretch pass line (15) and a dump line (91) and a hold it for openings line (34).
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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #268 on: April 19, 2021, 01:50:05 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

I'm hopeful on Robertson for the future, but I don't think he's nearly effective enough to be given those minutes right now.

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Re: Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #269 on: April 19, 2021, 02:02:11 PM »
I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.


I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

I'm hopeful on Robertson for the future, but I don't think he's nearly effective enough to be given those minutes right now.

Maybe not, but that's why I propose trying it now to see if it might work. If he's on a line with two grinder types (Tavares and Foligno) it might open up room for him to make good use of his skillset.