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Title: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Deebo on November 21, 2020, 12:52:25 PM
New raptors thread for this big news:

Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on November 21, 2020, 01:51:01 PM
New raptors thread for this big news:

Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on November 21, 2020, 02:41:14 PM

Good for him. Hard to say he didn't earn it.

Still kind of crazy to think that the Raps still have a pretty good young group in place with VanVleet, Siakam, Powell and Anunoby. Even if Ibaka, Lowry and Gasol are done, and I don't think they are, that's a starting point for a decent team in the East that could have a lot of cap space.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Highlander on November 21, 2020, 06:18:37 PM

Good for him. Hard to say he didn't earn it.

Still kind of crazy to think that the Raps still have a pretty good young group in place with VanVleet, Siakam, Powell and Anunoby. Even if Ibaka, Lowry and Gasol are done, and I don't think they are, that's a starting point for a decent team in the East that could have a lot of cap space.
Thats true until we get them to the Greek. 
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Deebo on November 21, 2020, 11:43:41 PM

Good for him. Hard to say he didn't earn it.

Still kind of crazy to think that the Raps still have a pretty good young group in place with VanVleet, Siakam, Powell and Anunoby. Even if Ibaka, Lowry and Gasol are done, and I don't think they are, that's a starting point for a decent team in the East that could have a lot of cap space.

Unfortuatley, Ibaka is going to the Clippers.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on November 22, 2020, 09:23:10 AM
Unfortuatley, Ibaka is going to the Clippers.

Yeah, that's unfortunate. Still, good young core and all that.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Dappleganger on November 22, 2020, 11:41:14 AM
Ibaka gone is disappointing from a fan's perspective for sure, but at least it should mean more time for my boy Boucher. This is what a Gasol/Ibaka-less Raptors looked like against eventual champion Lakers last year:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/m-ZHIALLPL4
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Bender on November 22, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
Unfortuatley, Ibaka is going to the Clippers.

Yeah, that's unfortunate. Still, good young core and all that.
Yeah I mean maybe it's time to give younger players a look? No idea though, I don't really know aging curves in the NBA
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 13, 2020, 03:21:21 PM
Good preseason game on Saturday, the starting rotation got shitkicked for a good amount of time in the first half but our backups looked very good.  Flynn looks like a draft steal, he is a player.  Also Thomas looked great, rounding into a full player, not just a shooter.  Should be a fun team to watch this year.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Deebo on December 15, 2020, 01:46:01 PM
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: cabber24 on December 15, 2020, 01:59:48 PM
How dare he screw Toronto like this! I tell yeah, Rick Nash too.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on December 15, 2020, 02:37:24 PM
Well that sucks.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Highlander on December 15, 2020, 02:46:03 PM
250 Million, never got the Greek. Now we can work on getting Leonard back.  ;)
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on December 23, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
A big part of it is James Harden being a tool but the NBA already had to postpone a game for COVID ineligibility
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on January 13, 2021, 05:42:56 PM
Pretty massive set domino trade went down today:

Houston traded James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets with secondary trades through Cleveland and Indiana.

Houston Receives:
- Victor Oladipo (Indiana), Dante Exum (Brooklyn), Rodions Kurucs (Brooklyn)
- Brooklyn unprotected 1st round picks in 2022, 2024, 2026
- Pick swaps with Brooklyn in 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027
- Cleveland's first round pick (through Milwaukee) in 2022

Brooklyn receives:
- James Harden (Houston)

Cleveland receives:
- Jarret Allen (Brooklyn), Taurean Prince (Brooklyn)

Indiana receives:
- Caris LeVert (Brooklyn)
- 2nd round pick
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: princedpw on January 13, 2021, 06:33:18 PM
Pretty massive set domino trade went down today:

Houston traded James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets with secondary trades through Cleveland and Indiana.

Houston Receives:
- Victor Oladipo (Indiana), Dante Exum (Brooklyn), Rodions Kurucs (Brooklyn)
- Brooklyn unprotected 1st round picks in 2022, 2024, 2026
- Pick swaps with Brooklyn in 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027
- Cleveland's first round pick (through Milwaukee) in 2022

Brooklyn receives:
- James Harden (Houston)

Cleveland receives:
- Jarret Allen (Brooklyn), Taurean Prince (Brooklyn)

Indiana receives:
- Caris LeVert (Brooklyn)
- 2nd round pick

That is one hell of a complicated trade.

I was hoping the raptors might be in on harden. It seemed the only route back to contender status I knew of aside from Kawhi next year (which seems even less likely).
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: OldTimeHockey on January 14, 2021, 08:28:43 AM
Pretty massive set domino trade went down today:

Houston traded James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets with secondary trades through Cleveland and Indiana.

Houston Receives:
- Victor Oladipo (Indiana), Dante Exum (Brooklyn), Rodions Kurucs (Brooklyn)
- Brooklyn unprotected 1st round picks in 2022, 2024, 2026
- Pick swaps with Brooklyn in 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027
- Cleveland's first round pick (through Milwaukee) in 2022

Brooklyn receives:
- James Harden (Houston)

Cleveland receives:
- Jarret Allen (Brooklyn), Taurean Prince (Brooklyn)

Indiana receives:
- Caris LeVert (Brooklyn)
- 2nd round pick

That is one hell of a complicated trade.

I was hoping the raptors might be in on harden. It seemed the only route back to contender status I knew of aside from Kawhi next year (which seems even less likely).

I'm kind of hoping that it blows up in the Nets face with Irving, Durant and Harden on the same team. I'm cheering for Nash, but I'm not sure how it works with those egos on the floor together.

On the Kawhi front, I'm not sure why the Raptors would do that unless the Nets experiment blows up. The Raptors certainly appear to be more than a Leonard away from competing with the Nets.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: seahawk on February 07, 2021, 01:09:24 PM
Raptors did not need Harden. Personally don't think he would be a good fit. The spot that they need help is in the post. Baynes is starting to find his groove, but they still need another option.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on March 25, 2021, 01:02:45 PM
The Raps have traded Norm Powell to Portland for Gary Trent Jr. and Rodney Hood.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on March 25, 2021, 01:51:21 PM
The Raps have traded Norm Powell to Portland for Gary Trent Jr. and Rodney Hood.


Interestingly the Raptors also acquired Gary Trent Sr from Portland in 97-98.  Not a bad acquisition.  Putting up 15 PPG as a 22 year old.  Norm is the better player though.

I'm sure its all posturing but not a lot of positive rumbling about a Lowry trade.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on March 25, 2021, 01:54:33 PM
The Raps have traded Norm Powell to Portland for Gary Trent Jr. and Rodney Hood.


Interestingly the Raptors also acquired Gary Trent Sr from Portland in 97-98.  Not a bad acquisition.  Putting up 15 PPG as a 22 year old.  Norm is the better player though.

Yeah, Norm's the better defender but if they weren't willing to pay him this summer it's fun to get a young scorer in return.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Deebo on March 25, 2021, 02:11:51 PM

I don't remember this guy, but he was traded to Utah.

Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on March 25, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
I'm sure its all posturing but not a lot of positive rumbling about a Lowry trade.

I kind of don't think it happens now. Philly always made the most sense to me. If Miami only wants to give someone like Robinson, who the Raps aren't likely to re-sign, it's almost like what's the point?
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on March 25, 2021, 02:17:46 PM

I don't remember this guy, but he was traded to Utah.

Mr 99%

He's a great 3 point shooter who can't do anything else on the court. 
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on March 25, 2021, 02:18:30 PM
I'm sure its all posturing but not a lot of positive rumbling about a Lowry trade.

I kind of don't think it happens now. Philly always made the most sense to me. If Miami only wants to give someone like Robinson, who the Raps aren't likely to re-sign, it's almost like what's the point?

Yeah sounds like Philly pulled out, Miami isn't offering Herro and supposedly the Lakers aren't even offering THT which means they are offering absolutely nothing but salary dump. 

Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on March 25, 2021, 03:00:20 PM
Terrence Davis traded to Sacramento for a 2nd round pick
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on March 25, 2021, 03:18:17 PM
Lowry stays.

I don't think the Raptors made themselves all that much worse.  They honestly might still go on a run with this roster outside of the fact that they barely have half a center.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on March 26, 2021, 03:02:57 PM
Lowry stays.

I don't think the Raptors made themselves all that much worse.  They honestly might still go on a run with this roster outside of the fact that they barely have half a center.

Yeah it's sort of cuts both ways. On the one hand I'm happy with the Powell/Trent swap but on the other if this is a lost season, it's frustrating to not be able to add another 1st at least.

Ah well. I have faith in Masai/Bobby.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: seahawk on April 04, 2021, 09:34:22 PM
If they view Trent Jr as a younger version of Powell, then this is a good move from a salary cap perspective. Norm would be UFA at the end of the season and in line for a bigger payday than what the Raptors could work with. They are about 5 mil away from paying the luxury tax and have not typically been a team to spend over the tax line.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on May 18, 2021, 11:52:39 AM
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on June 04, 2021, 11:40:04 AM
Unless it's fake news, or old news, but I just read that Masai is staying?
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on June 04, 2021, 11:52:37 AM
Unless it's fake news, or old news, but I just read that Masai is staying?

I think you were taken in by a hoax.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on June 04, 2021, 11:57:02 AM
Unless it's fake news, or old news, but I just read that Masai is staying?

I think you were taken in by a hoax.

Damnit!
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on June 22, 2021, 11:09:09 PM
Raptors move up to 4th in the draft lottery.  This is supposed to be a very good draft class so this is potentially big for the franchise
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on June 23, 2021, 12:04:41 AM
Raptors move up to 4th in the draft lottery.  This is supposed to be a very good draft class so this is potentially big for the franchise

The last time they drafted 4th overall it worked out well.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on June 23, 2021, 01:59:27 AM
Raptors move up to 4th in the draft lottery.  This is supposed to be a very good draft class so this is potentially big for the franchise

The top 4 is where you definitely want to be in this draft. Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs are all excellent prospects. Cunningham is a solid bet to go as #1 but beyond that any of the other three would be great and fill a real need for the Raps.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on June 23, 2021, 01:52:49 PM
Raptors move up to 4th in the draft lottery.  This is supposed to be a very good draft class so this is potentially big for the franchise

The top 4 is where you definitely want to be in this draft. Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs are all excellent prospects. Cunningham is a solid bet to go as #1 but beyond that any of the other three would be great and fill a real need for the Raps.

I really hope Mobley drops to the Raptors.  He seems like the perfect fit for the Raptors system.  Great defensive center who can pass and has the potential to have big offensive production.   
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on June 23, 2021, 03:28:30 PM
Raptors move up to 4th in the draft lottery.  This is supposed to be a very good draft class so this is potentially big for the franchise

The top 4 is where you definitely want to be in this draft. Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs are all excellent prospects. Cunningham is a solid bet to go as #1 but beyond that any of the other three would be great and fill a real need for the Raps.

I really hope Mobley drops to the Raptors.  He seems like the perfect fit for the Raptors system.  Great defensive center who can pass and has the potential to have big offensive production.

I don't know.  There's a 50% chance they are drafting someone with the first name Jalen.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on June 23, 2021, 04:09:08 PM
I really hope Mobley drops to the Raptors.  He seems like the perfect fit for the Raptors system.  Great defensive center who can pass and has the potential to have big offensive production.

That would be cool, especially if they then brought Lowry back.

But, then again, Suggs might be a perfect Lowry replacement. And Green might be the best pure scorer in the draft and the Raps need someone you want to give the ball to in the final minutes so...probably a good problem to have. My hunch is Green is the guy in the #4 spot.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Bender on June 23, 2021, 05:19:46 PM
I really hope Mobley drops to the Raptors.  He seems like the perfect fit for the Raptors system.  Great defensive center who can pass and has the potential to have big offensive production.

That would be cool, especially if they then brought Lowry back.

But, then again, Suggs might be a perfect Lowry replacement. And Green might be the best pure scorer in the draft and the Raps need someone you want to give the ball to in the final minutes so...probably a good problem to have. My hunch is Green is the guy in the #4 spot.
As someone who doesn't watch a ton to basketball these all sound great to me.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 18, 2021, 02:22:28 PM

I'll probably go back and forth on this a dozen times but now I kind of feel like Mobley might very well be the guy at #4. I think Cunningham-Green are a safe bet at 1 and 2 and I think neither Mobley or Suggs are great fits for Cleveland so I think someone might trade up to land Suggs. Mobley is seen as a high ceiling/high floor guy but maybe the least NBA ready so I can't help think that he's the guy teams back off of a little.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on July 29, 2021, 08:29:22 PM
They passed up Jalen Suggs to draft F Scotty Barnes.

I don’t understand this move at all. 

Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 29, 2021, 08:32:57 PM

How do the Raptors always, always screw up their high picks. How? Like the only thing they don't need is a forward who can't shoot. They desperately need a PG to replace Lowry.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Significantly Insignificant on July 29, 2021, 08:39:26 PM
https://ca.nba.com/news/2021-nba-draft-scottie-barnes-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses-and-player-comparisons/dwlgq2qx360m1xc5nb130p1nf

This scouting report talks of him being a point guard in a forwards body.  It calls him unique.  If you read the one on Jalen Suggs though, they whiffed this pick.  This feels like when Darko Milicic was drafted 2nd in the 2003 NBA draft.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on July 29, 2021, 08:46:47 PM
They drafted a guy who can’t shoot.  I really hope I’m wrong but this is just an awful decision.   There has to be a significant trade here to explain this
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 29, 2021, 08:48:36 PM

This always happens in the NBA draft. Some guy who isn't actually good at Basketball rises up the draft charts because teams fall in love with their athleticism and measurements and ignore things like not being able to shoot. That's why Steph Curry fell.

I just didn't think the Raps would be the team that fell for it.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 29, 2021, 09:11:00 PM

It is...frustrating to be a Toronto sports fan right now.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on July 29, 2021, 09:16:04 PM
Hey come on it will be fun when we lose games 86-80 because we have an elite defense an nobody who can shoot.  Wasn’t the Kevin O’Neill era awesome!
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 29, 2021, 09:29:58 PM

Oh well. I guess I always have the Blue Jays Jets Leafs learning how to make jam.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Bender on July 29, 2021, 10:27:08 PM
So I know nothing of this pick and Suggs other than everyone wanted Suggs. I have a friend who says they think they can develop the guy they picked for a longer term rebuild. Any merit to that? Admittedly I literally know nothing of the positions in Basketball.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 29, 2021, 10:55:32 PM
So I know nothing of this pick and Suggs other than everyone wanted Suggs. I have a friend who says they think they can develop the guy they picked for a longer term rebuild. Any merit to that? Admittedly I literally know nothing of the positions in Basketball.

I mean, any one could be developed and the Raptors have a good track record in developing guys but I think it's a little bit like the Family Guy joke about, you know, you can have a boat or you can have the mystery box which could be anything, it could even be a boat.

Suggs is the boat. Just take the boat.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Bender on July 30, 2021, 12:44:39 PM
So I know nothing of this pick and Suggs other than everyone wanted Suggs. I have a friend who says they think they can develop the guy they picked for a longer term rebuild. Any merit to that? Admittedly I literally know nothing of the positions in Basketball.

I mean, any one could be developed and the Raptors have a good track record in developing guys but I think it's a little bit like the Family Guy joke about, you know, you can have a boat or you can have the mystery box which could be anything, it could even be a boat.

Suggs is the boat. Just take the boat.
But what makes Suggs a boat and the other guy a mystery box? Do you generally take the guy who can shoot?
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on July 30, 2021, 01:18:35 PM
So I know nothing of this pick and Suggs other than everyone wanted Suggs. I have a friend who says they think they can develop the guy they picked for a longer term rebuild. Any merit to that? Admittedly I literally know nothing of the positions in Basketball.

I mean, any one could be developed and the Raptors have a good track record in developing guys but I think it's a little bit like the Family Guy joke about, you know, you can have a boat or you can have the mystery box which could be anything, it could even be a boat.

Suggs is the boat. Just take the boat.
But what makes Suggs a boat and the other guy a mystery box? Do you generally take the guy who can shoot?

Suggs is an ok defender who can shoot.

Barnes is a good defender who can't shoot.

Mid-late round picks who can't shoot I'll buy that they need development time to work on their offensive game.  Top 4 picks shouldn't need to develop an offensive game.  He's a good playmaker but he's a Point Forward and not a PG.  He's not an elite passer for a PG...he's an elite passes for a PF.

Everything about Barnes is that his hypothetical potential being higher but the Raptors are loaded with guys who can't create their own shot and just added another one.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 30, 2021, 01:27:34 PM
But what makes Suggs a boat and the other guy a mystery box? Do you generally take the guy who can shoot?

Well, kind of. But it's more that Suggs was seen overwhelmingly as the safer pick because of a more developed game. When people projected him as a front-line PG it was because of watching what he did in college. With Barnes it's "Well, if he develops his shooting who knows where it might lead?"

With Barnes there isn't really any solid notion of what position he might play.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on July 30, 2021, 01:43:23 PM
Anybody put any faith in the claim that Suggs didn't want to come to Toronto anyway?
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on July 30, 2021, 01:59:02 PM
The rumour going around is that he didn't have a good workout with the team...but I feel like that always happens when a team doesn't pick a player. 

Supposedly if OKC traded up with the Raptors they would have taken Barnes at 4 too so that took away the trade down option.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on July 30, 2021, 02:17:57 PM
The rumour going around is that he didn't have a good workout with the team...but I feel like that always happens when a team doesn't pick a player. 

Supposedly if OKC traded up with the Raptors they would have taken Barnes at 4 too so that took away the trade down option.

I guess. But I'd feel better about having Giddey and another solid asset than just Barnes.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on July 31, 2021, 09:36:07 PM
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Highlander on August 03, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
Goodbye Kyle, enjoy the Heat in Miami.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on August 03, 2021, 09:29:10 AM
Yeah, it was expected at this point.  The S&T portion hasn't been announced yet but sounds like it is Goran Dragic (19.4M) and Precious Achiuwa (2.71M)

Dragic is probably a good bet to be flipped given that the Raptors still have FVV and Flynn for PG next year.  Achiuwa adds to a glut of SF/PF players that in the 6'8"-6'9" range but is an ok prospect.

The team is definitely doing a bit of a modified rebuild now.  They could potentially get a big with Dragic in a trade but it does look like the Raptors are going to be a team that gets heavily outrebounded again this season because they have no center depth.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on August 03, 2021, 11:43:06 AM

Chet Holmgren here we come.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on August 03, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
So...tanking?
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: L K on August 03, 2021, 04:14:31 PM
So...tanking?

I don't see them being that bad...I also don't see them being much more than a borderline playoff team at best unless Barnes becomes an elite shooter between now and then.  OG always shows flashes of being more than just a really solid 3+D player but hasn't taken the step toward consistency.  Their passing isn't as good with FVV as PG.  They will get horrible outrebounded and shooting consistency from their depth is questionable (they added 6'9" SF/PF Sam Dekker who was playing in Europe and added a 3-point shot last year).

I don't think they are anywhere near bad enough to finish atop the lottery.  Chet Holmgren looks like he would be phenomenal if they lucked out though.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Nik on August 03, 2021, 08:59:15 PM

I don't think they have to tank to be a pretty bad team. There's certainly not a lot of teams in the league I look at and say "The Raptors are clearly better than them". Houston, OKC, Washington...not much else.

But I think LK is right. They're not bottom feeders right now. It would almost make more sense if they were. Trade Siakam for more young guys.
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Frank E on August 05, 2021, 02:51:03 PM
Unless it's fake news, or old news, but I just read that Masai is staying?

OK, I think it's for real now.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/masai-ujiri-remain-raptors-im-stay/
Title: Re: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Raptors Thread
Post by: Highlander on August 05, 2021, 05:20:42 PM
Unless it's fake news, or old news, but I just read that Masai is staying?

OK, I think it's for real now.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/masai-ujiri-remain-raptors-im-stay/
I forgot, there is indeed a God!