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Guilt Trip:

--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 09:15:37 AM ---I understand Mercedes being upset about the way that ended. I'm not overly upset about it though. Mercedes seems to be the team that always gets the breaks, including Hamilton being allowed to leave the track and increase his lead in the first lap.

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I was thinking about that but I also thought Max pushed him off. I'm not sure what Lewis was supposed to do there. But it is odd you can lead most of the race only to lose at the end because of a weird technicality. The race was over for Lewis once Latifi crashed. As well Masi shouldn't be getting influenced by team chiefs. It'd be like GMs calling the war room and arguing against calls and refs changing the call during a game.

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Agree on all accounts..tainted result, Lewis deserved the win. Masi has made it a joke...he changed the rules. Sad way for it to end.

Bender:

--- Quote from: Dappleganger on December 13, 2021, 11:26:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 09:15:37 AM ---I understand Mercedes being upset about the way that ended. I'm not overly upset about it though. Mercedes seems to be the team that always gets the breaks, including Hamilton being allowed to leave the track and increase his lead in the first lap.

--- End quote ---
I was thinking about that but I also thought Max pushed him off. I'm not sure what Lewis was supposed to do there. But it is odd you can lead most of the race only to lose at the end because of a weird technicality. The race was over for Lewis once Latifi crashed. As well Masi shouldn't be getting influenced by team chiefs. It'd be like GMs calling the war room and arguing against calls and refs changing the call during a game.

--- End quote ---

I'd say it's more like the head coach arguing penalties with the ref, which happens all the time and can influence them.

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But generally once they make a call they make a call. Masi's going back and forth with the teams as to how the race should be called in real time.

OldTimeHockey:

--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 01:02:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dappleganger on December 13, 2021, 11:26:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 09:15:37 AM ---I understand Mercedes being upset about the way that ended. I'm not overly upset about it though. Mercedes seems to be the team that always gets the breaks, including Hamilton being allowed to leave the track and increase his lead in the first lap.

--- End quote ---
I was thinking about that but I also thought Max pushed him off. I'm not sure what Lewis was supposed to do there. But it is odd you can lead most of the race only to lose at the end because of a weird technicality. The race was over for Lewis once Latifi crashed. As well Masi shouldn't be getting influenced by team chiefs. It'd be like GMs calling the war room and arguing against calls and refs changing the call during a game.

--- End quote ---

I'd say it's more like the head coach arguing penalties with the ref, which happens all the time and can influence them.

--- End quote ---

But generally once they make a call they make a call. Masi's going back and forth with the teams as to how the race should be called in real time.

--- End quote ---

But it's happening in real time and developing as they take a look at the crash, evaluate whether it's safe for the lapped cars to pass, evaluating whether they have time to finish the race. It's not as black and white as a penalty call.

I don't agree with the call to finish the race the way it was finished, but part of me is so freaking tired of Hamilton and Mercedes being the darlings of F1 that a good FU to them doesn't upset me too much.

Bender:

--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 07:58:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 01:02:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dappleganger on December 13, 2021, 11:26:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 09:15:37 AM ---I understand Mercedes being upset about the way that ended. I'm not overly upset about it though. Mercedes seems to be the team that always gets the breaks, including Hamilton being allowed to leave the track and increase his lead in the first lap.

--- End quote ---
I was thinking about that but I also thought Max pushed him off. I'm not sure what Lewis was supposed to do there. But it is odd you can lead most of the race only to lose at the end because of a weird technicality. The race was over for Lewis once Latifi crashed. As well Masi shouldn't be getting influenced by team chiefs. It'd be like GMs calling the war room and arguing against calls and refs changing the call during a game.

--- End quote ---

I'd say it's more like the head coach arguing penalties with the ref, which happens all the time and can influence them.

--- End quote ---

But generally once they make a call they make a call. Masi's going back and forth with the teams as to how the race should be called in real time.

--- End quote ---

But it's happening in real time and developing as they take a look at the crash, evaluate whether it's safe for the lapped cars to pass, evaluating whether they have time to finish the race. It's not as black and white as a penalty call.

I don't agree with the call to finish the race the way it was finished, but part of me is so freaking tired of Hamilton and Mercedes being the darlings of F1 that a good FU to them doesn't upset me too much.

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Right, but did you look at the last race? There's a reason why there's tons of complaints about this guy.

OldTimeHockey:

--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 08:19:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 07:58:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 01:02:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dappleganger on December 13, 2021, 11:26:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bender on December 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: OldTimeHockey on December 13, 2021, 09:15:37 AM ---I understand Mercedes being upset about the way that ended. I'm not overly upset about it though. Mercedes seems to be the team that always gets the breaks, including Hamilton being allowed to leave the track and increase his lead in the first lap.

--- End quote ---
I was thinking about that but I also thought Max pushed him off. I'm not sure what Lewis was supposed to do there. But it is odd you can lead most of the race only to lose at the end because of a weird technicality. The race was over for Lewis once Latifi crashed. As well Masi shouldn't be getting influenced by team chiefs. It'd be like GMs calling the war room and arguing against calls and refs changing the call during a game.

--- End quote ---

I'd say it's more like the head coach arguing penalties with the ref, which happens all the time and can influence them.

--- End quote ---

But generally once they make a call they make a call. Masi's going back and forth with the teams as to how the race should be called in real time.

--- End quote ---

But it's happening in real time and developing as they take a look at the crash, evaluate whether it's safe for the lapped cars to pass, evaluating whether they have time to finish the race. It's not as black and white as a penalty call.

I don't agree with the call to finish the race the way it was finished, but part of me is so freaking tired of Hamilton and Mercedes being the darlings of F1 that a good FU to them doesn't upset me too much.

--- End quote ---
Right, but did you look at the last race? There's a reason why there's tons of complaints about this guy.

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The whole season was filled with questionable calls.

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